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This page is an ] of a talk page. Old discussions usually go here. This is not an actual archive page though, because this page is only an example. |
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This page is an example of an ] of a talk page. If this was a real page, Old discussions would go here. This is not an actual archive page though, because this page is only an example. --] (]) 03:14, 19 January 2038 (UTC) |
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== Image Update? == |
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Now that we're 100% certain who he is, shouldn't the image in this article be updated to one of Joseph DeAngelo, the man they have in custody? All of the other details have been updated, such as his place of employment. ] (]) 21:15, 27 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:We are not 100% certain who he is until there is a conviction. This is still America. ] (]) 01:56, 28 April 2018 (UTC) |
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== Muddled == |
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This seems all a bit muddled. The Original Night Stalker, The Night Stalker and a third one, all linked by DNA – or maybe not? Very confusing! Needs clarification! ] 21:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Vandalism == |
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(mcdonis) I was in the middle of fixing this artcle when someone labeled it vandlaism and removed it. ] (]) 19:12, 29 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Please quit saying my additons are vandlamism they arent. ] (]) 02:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC) |
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== 2009 Ventura Murders == |
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A new Ventura victim possibly related to the Husted slayings today. Wendy DiRodio, 61, stabbing victim in home. See this article in local paper: |
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http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/jun/04/no-headline---nxxfcvtastab05/ |
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comments and tonights news confirm that Hustead victims owned 2d home nearby, docked their boat at this home in Keys, and enrolled their children in the local school. Geographic link plus MO. This may not be worth adding but is worth watching for future additions to this article. ] (]) 04:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm removing the references to the Husted and DiRodio cases in the main article. These crimes are similar in some ways to the ONS, different in many, and being that it's been 23 years since ONS' last known homicide, I'd say it's almost certain there is no link. --] (]) 01:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== Merging EAR with ONS == |
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I'd like to merge the article for ] with ] article. It's the same perpetrator. If/when he's apprehended, these pages will both be redirected (as would ], if he confesses to these) to the individual's own article, so these two pages should be merged, as they've been forensically proven to be the same offender. I'll wait seven days for input. If no one objects, I'll perform the merge. --] (]) 01:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:You are right. ONS and EAR are the same person. Merge the articles. --] (]) 16:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Who wrote that he had an 11 inch penis? I deleted that. C'mon folks this is serious. |
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] (]) 16:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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Should this ] be a REDIRECT to here or ]ed. How reliable is this source: |
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{{quotation|Michael Newton The Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes 2009 -p139 "While that proposed solution was enticing, a spokesman for the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department stated in 2000 that DNA recovered from a Goleta crime scene did not match that of the Original Night Stalker."}} |
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Information in the article here seems to contradict it. ] (]) 04:21, 23 September 2013 (UTC) |
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== Myths? == |
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I have heard some things, yet none of these are mentioned on this page. I will provide a link to a page which mentions these. I'm specifically redesign to the criminal making a phone call, and leaving a message, apparently in 1991 (seems a little late?), and attending a community meeting, where someone there was targeted, plates being put on his back etc. This is one page with gives those details<ref>http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/07/03/the-east-area-rapistoriginal-night-stalker/</ref> – ] (]) 21:12, 23 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:I have removed most references to the three toed German Shepherd ("Woofy", as he's known), as most of what was said is myth (or at least completely unsourced), and some is simply wrong. What we know for sure amounts to the following: dog prints were found at O/M. The breed isn't certain, and while the prints appeared to show a three toed dog, investigators later determined that this might not be the case. There is no publicly available source that indicates the presence of a dog at any other scene, other than a sighting of a man with a German Shepherd near the D/S the night before the crime, and there's reason to think that the police later identified this man and cleared him. ] (]) 21:10, 20 March 2016 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 5 April 2018 == |
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:''The following is a closed discussion of a ]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a ]. No further edits should be made to this section. '' |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved as requested''' per the discussion below. ]] 12:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC) |
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] → {{no redirect|Golden State Killer}} – The most common name is "Golden State Killer". A simple Google search can confirm this, with; "Golden State Killer" (130,000), "East Area Rapist" (57,100), "Original Night Stalker" (47,100) – unable to move, I suspect, due to historical merge and redirect ] (]) 20:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)<small>--'''''Relisting.''''' ]] 03:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small>This is a contested technical request (]). –] (]) 00:28, 5 April 2018 (UTC)</small> |
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*I suggest putting it through a requested move. Page views is not a convincing reason to move a name. Also, the page has been at that title since before the redirect target "Garden State stalker".] (]) 21:30, 4 April 2018 (UTC) |
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::You forgot to actually say anything about whether you think it should be moved or not. |
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::A page being at the wrong name for so long will become clear when you read the article. |
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::Somehow I suspect that you have not really read the article? |
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::There were ""two" killers, and then DNA linked them as the same assailant. |
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::There can be only one name, so the new one was chosen. ] |
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::It is a shame that this was blocked by someone who appears to have contested it on "is this the best policy?", rather than any real reason to NOT move it. |
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::We use Google search results all the time ] ] (]) 11:12, 5 April 2018 (UTC) |
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Comment: Seems that the GSK phrase is being used by the current mainstream media to retroactively include EAR's crimes as in . ] ] 11:54, 5 April 2018 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''': I believe Michelle McNamara began calling him the Golden State Killer in 2013, so its use is fairly recent compared to the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker names. He has been referred to as the East Area Rapist since , and as the Original Night Stalker since the early 2000s, though probably earlier than that. The Golden State Killer shows a lot of results on Google, but that might be because the case has received a lot of media attention in recent years, with the FBI's renewed efforts in 2016, recent podcasts and television episodes/series that feature the name, and the fact that a lot of newer sources tend to refer to him as the Golden State Killer. ] (]) 12:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC) |
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::Which is, I believe, covered by ] – as most recent media seem to be using GSK, since 2016 at least, it looked like it might be time to move this one :) ] (]) 14:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Isn't NAMECHANGES about individuals changing their name though? "Sometimes, the subject of an article will undergo a change of name". I suppose that might be like Bruce Jenner/], or Jenna Dewan marrying Channing Tatum and changing her name to Jenna Dewan Tatum. It doesn't seem to apply to this case. ] (]) 21:39, 5 April 2018 (UTC) |
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'''Support''' per ] ] ] 00:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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'''Support''' change to "Golden State Killer" ] (]) 01:06, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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I honestly thing the name should be changed back to The Original Night Stalker. That's what pretty much everyone in the true crime community calls him. |
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:Agreed, even in the recent press conference the police, local media, et al refer to him primarily even as East Area Rapist, essentially nobody calls him Golden State Killer except very recently, and the Google results is hardly a proper poll considering it's largely in part due to the book mentioned above -- which incidentally when asked at the conference whether the book had any impact or provided new information to the case the sheriff said "no, none at all." So I don't see why this was done. ] (]) 20:22, 25 April 2018 (UTC) |
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::I live in the Sacramento area, so the local media's calling him the East Area Rapist. However, the national media appears to be calling him the Golden State Killer. ] (]) 04:11, 26 April 2018 (UTC) |
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== HLN “Unmasking a Killer” == |
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The media section should state that in March 2018 HLN began running “Unmasking a Killer,” a five-part documentary series devoted to the hunt for the Golden State Killer. |
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== Map? == |
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A map/maps, maybe with colored/shaped pins to indicate specific nature of offense / chronological group, would be far better than the current numbing list. Do ''not'' give specific addresses or pin specific addresses on the map -- vague blobby pins are fine. ]] 15:34, 26 April 2018 (UTC) |
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