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::::::::: I am seeking ] for this as we are not coming on any conclusion and my all the sources are declared as unreliable by you. I will also raise issue of the Hamid Ansari's page where you reverted my edits by stating Republic and Times Now are not reliable because they are biased. Hope we will reach on conclusion. Thanking you, --] (]) 06:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC) | ::::::::: I am seeking ] for this as we are not coming on any conclusion and my all the sources are declared as unreliable by you. I will also raise issue of the Hamid Ansari's page where you reverted my edits by stating Republic and Times Now are not reliable because they are biased. Hope we will reach on conclusion. Thanking you, --] (]) 06:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC) | ||
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I want your attention into the matter that the editor {{ping|Harshil169}} got banned from quora for hate contents. Next the reason this guy was banned because he was named in Huffington post{{https://m.huffingtonpost.in/entry/twitter-indians-quora-politics_in_5c24c958e4b08aaf7a8e0eb1}} which is about troll fest on quora. And now the quora page is nowbeing vandalised by someone who himself got banned from quora for hate. I know this because I was just casually browsing twitter and this guy had invited other trolls to help him and that's the case of sock puppetry and I really doubt the account above supporting him is a result of sock puppetry. This guy said he need help and encourage others to make new account. In his answers and post there is clear Islamophobic and hate content, which can clearly be seen. He said in his twitter accout(all of this is available in public domain by himself.) that he will make other wiki pages to raise his voice. Wiki is not a forum to raise your voice. It's an encyclopedia. I really want to take this matter into consideration since the editors views are highly biased, and edits are heavily politically leaned. Since he is editing quora to cope up with his own personal beef with quora which is extremely unacceptable on wiki on which editors test every word. | |||
All these informations are available in public domain, I did not post any external link, but if you want to search you can search the editors name on twitter or editor's name+Huffington post on google. | |||
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I have added criticisms and Controversies
I have added several criticisms and controversies by adding section on the page of Quora. I had read many things and coverage about the alleged bias of the Quora moderation which was absent from the page. It was also required to put major data glitch as controversy of the company. Therefore, I have added the section in the Misplaced Pages page of the Quora which involves some criticisms and controversies of this website.
- I've moved the information to the history section as it is an isolated incident and not a general criticism about the website. See also WP:CSECTION. Also make sure to keep WP:UNDUE in mind so as not to make the page a sounding piece for those who don't like company. Assign appropriate weight to what is reported about the company in WP:RSes. --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 21:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Puzzledvegetable: Just visit the edit section and try to know what I had actually added. I’ve added the protest against the company, legal sue to company, criticisms pf company by well known American journalists and Palestinian activists. That’s why I thought to add the separate csection for the company. However, one editor removed all of those edits by stating ‘’’Nobody cares’’’. —Harshil169 (talk) 06:15, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Though an American organisation, the site is heavily biased towards muslims and will allow no criticisms of them, no matter how relevant or how truthful. Critisising muslims and islam is the one sure way to get banned on Quora.(185.181.239.184 (talk) 05:36, 11 July 2019 (UTC))
- I agree with your views and there have been given enough coverage to this specific point in different sources and by activists. If there’s any Misplaced Pages page of company then it should be open for criticism so that people can get what the site actual stand for. Obviously, NPOV, No original research and verifiability shouldn’t be violated. —Harshil169 (talk) 06:15, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- I am notifying the editor that made that edit (Winged Blades of Godric) so that the editor can participate in this discussion if he wants. Note that his exact words in the summary were "Edit via Wikiplus/Nobody cares; no coverage in RS. Epistle News fails WP:RS per WP:NEWSORG". --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 14:59, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- What we need is high quality sources, supporting the claims. Exceptional claims require exceptional sources.
- Epistle-News is not a RS per WP:NEWSORG; see their About-Us section.
- Mondoweiss is a purveyor of anti-semitic news and self-declares to be anti-Israel. Not remotely reliable in these areas. Neither do I find Rima Najjar to be someone acclaimed enough, to take her at face-value.
- Israellycool is an one-man- blog. See WP:SPS. ∯WBG 15:13, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you User:Puzzledvegetable for bringing an editor into the discsussion. The editor gave an excuse that Mondoweiss is an biased source while our Misplaced Pages's WP:RS and WP:BIASED policies state that non-neutral sources are best for supporting information. So, how the excuse that it is not reliable in these areas can be valid for this particular website? Also, I am not interested in defending the website. The website itself says it is anti-zionist not anti-semitic. If someone's ideology doesnn't resonate with the source then it doesn't mean that source become void or non reliable. The article was written by well known Palestinian activists who wrote more than half dozens of book over this issue and it was covered by other similar websites though.
(By the way, this same editor also removed my well cited sources like Republic TV, Times Now and Swarajya by citing that they are biased in three other articles. But wikipedia's policy itself states that wiki page should be neutral and reliable sources are best if they're biased to know different view points and reality. The same editor also accused me for spreading pro-right and pro-hindutva agenda by personally attacking me and name calling on my talk page when I just cited different view points on Misplaced Pages pages by keeping policies in mind.)
Now coming to Israellycool, I tried to make wiki page neutral by showing both sides of coin. The article on the website was written by someone by interviewing Israeli activist and their opinion and I cited that directly. However, one can give warning about it if sources are not reliable by simply putting but to remove entire text is archaic and arrogant. Regarding Epistle news, I seriously don't know how doesn't it meet the criteria of the Reliable source. This is news organisation funded by public directly then how it can become unreliable? The person who reported it was herself is an editor of Times of India group. After reading Misplaced Pages's policy, I don't think it violates any criteria of reliable sources. If one want to discuss that how it's violation of Misplaced Pages's particular policy by citing then I am okay with it and I will defend the sources according to Misplaced Pages's policy. It's impossible to oppose the hyberbolic statements like this is biased, this is not reliable and etc. Quora is just a company like Facebook and Twitter; if both the companies have controversy page then Quora atleast deserve controversy section as per the coverage given to it in the Media. None of the core policies of Misplaced Pages was violated in original csection but obviously WP:NPOV was violated when editor removed all the negative news without even putting citation and giving hyperbolic statement as judgement. I am not interested in directly talking with the concerned editor because he is not giving any conclusion or statements which states my edits are against this particular policy; I require mediator to solve this dispute and knowing their views on this topic to come on conclusion. --Harshil169 (talk) 04:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)- See WP:DR and WP:IDHT. Best, ∯WBG 05:37, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- I am seeking WP:3 for this as we are not coming on any conclusion and my all the sources are declared as unreliable by you. I will also raise issue of the Hamid Ansari's page where you reverted my edits by stating Republic and Times Now are not reliable because they are biased. Hope we will reach on conclusion. Thanking you, --Harshil169 (talk) 06:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- See WP:DR and WP:IDHT. Best, ∯WBG 05:37, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you User:Puzzledvegetable for bringing an editor into the discsussion. The editor gave an excuse that Mondoweiss is an biased source while our Misplaced Pages's WP:RS and WP:BIASED policies state that non-neutral sources are best for supporting information. So, how the excuse that it is not reliable in these areas can be valid for this particular website? Also, I am not interested in defending the website. The website itself says it is anti-zionist not anti-semitic. If someone's ideology doesnn't resonate with the source then it doesn't mean that source become void or non reliable. The article was written by well known Palestinian activists who wrote more than half dozens of book over this issue and it was covered by other similar websites though.
- I am notifying the editor that made that edit (Winged Blades of Godric) so that the editor can participate in this discussion if he wants. Note that his exact words in the summary were "Edit via Wikiplus/Nobody cares; no coverage in RS. Epistle News fails WP:RS per WP:NEWSORG". --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 14:59, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with your views and there have been given enough coverage to this specific point in different sources and by activists. If there’s any Misplaced Pages page of company then it should be open for criticism so that people can get what the site actual stand for. Obviously, NPOV, No original research and verifiability shouldn’t be violated. —Harshil169 (talk) 06:15, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Though an American organisation, the site is heavily biased towards muslims and will allow no criticisms of them, no matter how relevant or how truthful. Critisising muslims and islam is the one sure way to get banned on Quora.(185.181.239.184 (talk) 05:36, 11 July 2019 (UTC))
I want your attention into the matter that the editor @Harshil169: got banned from quora for hate contents. Next the reason this guy was banned because he was named in Huffington postTemplate:Https://m.huffingtonpost.in/entry/twitter-indians-quora-politics in 5c24c958e4b08aaf7a8e0eb1 which is about troll fest on quora. And now the quora page is nowbeing vandalised by someone who himself got banned from quora for hate. I know this because I was just casually browsing twitter and this guy had invited other trolls to help him and that's the case of sock puppetry and I really doubt the account above supporting him is a result of sock puppetry. This guy said he need help and encourage others to make new account. In his answers and post there is clear Islamophobic and hate content, which can clearly be seen. He said in his twitter accout(all of this is available in public domain by himself.) that he will make other wiki pages to raise his voice. Wiki is not a forum to raise your voice. It's an encyclopedia. I really want to take this matter into consideration since the editors views are highly biased, and edits are heavily politically leaned. Since he is editing quora to cope up with his own personal beef with quora which is extremely unacceptable on wiki on which editors test every word. All these informations are available in public domain, I did not post any external link, but if you want to search you can search the editors name on twitter or editor's name+Huffington post on google. Thank you.
Update needed
This article needs to be updated with relevant information. It makes no mention to Quora spaces or to Quora's partner program just to name a few examples. --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 20:45, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I just added some info about the partner program, but the article still needs work. --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 20:57, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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