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Current Posts

Marriage

Many congratulations, and best wishes for a long and happy life together. AnnH ♫ 18:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Uhura.jpg

I see you're inactive, but this is just to let you know that I've retagged Image:Uhura.jpg. Publicity photos are, generally speaking, not in the public domain. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 02:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Long time, no see

Saw on your user page that you are at the Persian Gulf. Stay safe, cannot wait until you come home. Make us proud. User:Zscout370 06:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll be on and off the site until about October. Thanks for the GWOTEM! -Husnock 19:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hostel (film) and Tourism in Slovakia

Hi. I wrote my comment at Talk:Tourism in Slovakia. I really hope that this useless edit war will end soon. Juro has made great contributions to the articles dealing with Slovakia (and Central Europe in general), but his style of communication may be sometimes irritating. In general, talk pages of the Central European articles are far from the standards of civility and even serious editors (including Juro) frequently lose their temper as they must deal with all sorts of nationalist freaks (usually anonymous IPs blanking text or adding their badly written POV). I mention it just to explain you the invisible context of Juro's behavior. I would like also to ask you for your opinion about the "war in Slovakia" mentioned in the Hostel movie. I think it was clearly a reference to an alleged recent conflict (probably the one in former Yugoslavia or an entirely fictious one) and I do not fully understand why you added a reference to WWII. Tankred 15:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I opened up a talk page section on it. I just thought it was WWII becuase thats the only major war I know about in which Slovakia has been involved. -Husnock 19:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:NavCivWarMed.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:NavCivWarMed.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Misplaced Pages (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 03:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

NFCs

By all means, put it back in. If you can, add some more detail on the topic. Arcimpulse 06:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Starfleet uniforms

Article has recently survived a vfd, so I though you might want to contribute there. --Cat out 13:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Starfleet rank article

I was removing those referances as you were reverting. See the toal change for yourself . None of that is inaproporate.

--Cat out 14:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I explained it on the talk page. The page version was full of bad info; the revert was anything but senseless. Looks fine now, though. -Husnock 14:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Durin's RFC

I have rolled your addition back, as shown in the history, as that RfC is in a closed and archived state. You may want to just voice your concern to Durin directly. Hope that helps, happy editing! No answer required, but here is preferred. ++Lar: t/c 19:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Question on Captain Rankinsignia

Hi, are there different Pin-on-Metal-Insignias for Captains of the USMC and e.g. the US Air Force? Or is this just a thing with different graphics and the real insignias are the same? --GrummelJS 20:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek Barnstar

I hereby award you this barnstar for your superb contributions to the Star Trek rank insignia article. --Cat out 14:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! -Husnock 02:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Removal of cleanup tag on Reinhard Heydrich

I put a cleanup tag on Reinhard Heydrich a few days ago because some of the text could do with a fair bit of reworking in my opinion. You've since removed the tag on the basis that no reason was given for its inclusion, which I don't understand as I outlined my reasons for doing so at the time here. As I've commented subsequently, I'm not going to risk a reverting battle, but in my opinion the article would still benefit from a fair amount of cleanup both in terms of grammar and writing style.

-- Chris (blather • contribs) 18:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:VSARM.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:VSARM.jpg. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Misplaced Pages (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Angr 18:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:StarfleetEnlist1.gif

Thanks for uploading Image:StarfleetEnlist1.gif. I notice the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this file yourself, then there needs to be a justification explaining why we have the right to use it on Misplaced Pages (see copyright tagging below). If you did not create the file yourself, then you need to specify where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the file also doesn't have a copyright tag, then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Misplaced Pages:Fair use, use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 12:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:CPORand.jpg)

This file may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:CPORand.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Misplaced Pages and may only be used on Misplaced Pages under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Misplaced Pages. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful.

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 22:24, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Badge of Military Merit

Hi Husnock, can I get your opinion on the sources Armycaptain wants to use for his additions? I went ahead and made a temp page, and moved some of Armycaptain's recent changes there. I'll go ahead and format the references, I'm not sure the additions are ready to be moved over to the main article yet though. There's still a touch of POV. Is the Badge of Military Merit/Badge of Merit controversy too WP:OR to even touch? Katr67 02:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Pharaoh and Cleopatra

I've left a comment on Talk:Pharaoh and Cleopatra. The summary is that I'm okay with the merger, but I think the name is problematic. More details are provided at the talk page.

All the best,
Ξxtreme Unction|_{yakkity yak}
20:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Colonel General?

As a German speaker and contributor on many military articles I would appreciate and comment (in support or argument) to my comment on Talk:Colonel-General regarding translating Generaloberst as Colonel-General. Thanking you in advance. Dainamo 00:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

YCDTOTV

Keeping sick fetishes off serious articles is just as important to me. Please bear that in mind. I have been here for five years and i should have some respect. PMA 15:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Has nothing to do with "sick fetishes", the article I read about the program brought up some highly interesting things about the way Les Lyle managed the show I was hoping to explore them in the article. No-one disrepected you, rather the reverse since you blanked a talk page discussion, in effect censoring it, because it dealt with a subject you didn't agree with. This kind of thing is above Admins, time to move on. -Husnock 15:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Pharaoh and Cleopatra

Love the work you have done on Pharaoh and Cleopatra! Great work fleshing out this article!! --Kralizec! (talk) 18:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Do I smell a Barnstar? :-) -Husnock 05:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I just had a look at the article wonderful work, hope all is going well Gnangarra 04:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the Barnstar!

United States presidential line of succession

Thank you for correcting my unintentionally over-eager modification so quickly!. I know that Pelosi is not Speaker until elected by the new Congress. I tried to make that clear in my modification, but had not intended to delete Hastert's name from the table - that was due to my inexperience with the workings of Misplaced Pages. I do think there should be some reference in this article to the fact that Hastert will not be in this position come January 2007, and it is highly likely his place will be taken by Pelosi. I am not sure how best to do this; I would be grateful for your advice. I respect your position as a far more experienced Misplaced Pages editor than me! Regards. PHJ 06:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for spotting that (on the Great Pyramid), I didn't notice it myself, glad you did!. --Alf 18:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Check out my work on Pharaoh and Cleopatra. I'm fishing for a barnstar! -Husnock 03:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Stoop

Hi. Your uploaded pic is now on deletion requests Scriberius 19:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Deletion request is almost comical since that picture is right out of his SS service record on file with NARA. It appeared that becuase it wasn't available on the internet, people thought the tag was false. Amazing. -Husnock 03:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It was nominated for speedy deletion (for not having sources). By converting it to regular deletion I managed to delay the process a bit since I trust you. :) I am trying to rescue it not get it deleted. Would it be possible to somehow source the image to that (maybe a specific number leading to his service record) or better a web reference? My hands are tied by commons policy requiring citation. --Cat out 12:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It looks pretty well sourced too me. Its in his SS record that anyone can go see at the NARA building in College Park. They can also be called at one of several NARA customer service numbers (the only one I have is 314-801-0800 but there are others). It appeared that someone last year cam to the wrong conclusion that just becuase it wasnt on the internet, it couldnt be verified. Service record photos number in the millions and they are rarely listed on websites. -Husnock 13:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Pharaoh Houses

This image Image:AllPharHouses.jpg is a derivative work, its licensing can only be {{game-screenshot}} inclusion in an article will require a fairuse rationale. If you would like me to look at other images you've uploaded just ask. Gnangarra 01:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

P&C is at FA

Dont forget you have nominated this article for FA, can I suggest that you withdraw the nomination until the image issues are resolved. Gnangarra 16:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Yep. Other major issues with the article like no in-line citations lacking and too complex a TOC. -Husnock 16:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah i did notice that, but I suspect that the article wont be the only battlefield. Gnangarra 17:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Enough already

You've now moved into innapropriate territory. Durin is not harrassing you, instead as many people have told you he is correctly following the image policy. I've asked him to step back, but you need to also. The page you've created, User:Husnock/Durinharass, is innapropriate given the facts, especially the title. In order to help resolve the situation in the best way, please move it to a less inflammatory location. - Taxman 20:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I concur entirely with this. I don't see any problem with Durin's actions in this situation and am disappointed to see your painting this as "harassment". Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 21:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I have changed the name of my sub-page sinced, yes, it could easily be seen as too harsh. However, I believe the existence of the page is crucial. I need to keep a record of what this guy is doing. I will always believe he targeted me, looking at his edits, he was spending all this time reviewing my things while others went unnoticed. Also, he keeps on avoiding the issue that I am on a military deployment...in fact he has yet to acknowledge one word about it. He says things like "he must have time to fix these images since he has this other time to defend them and write these pages". I have time now. What I can not simply get through to this user is that I might not have time later. This is Thanksgiving, after these holidays I will probably disappear from Misplaced Pages for at least three months. Also, again for the record, I have yet to personally attack him (i.e. "Durin is a XXXXX") only expressing my views about what he is doing. My list on the Durin Concerns Page is, in my view exactly what he is doing and has done. The straw that broke the camel's back (funny considering where I am) was when he wanted to talk to my ex-finance and the former girlfriend of my dead grandfather. Contributing was that I took GREAT lengths to contact the headquarters of CNFK and CNFJ to talk to JAG officers about thier images. Durin simply said "they are wrong" and marked the images as such. This was all too much. An understanding user who would have worked with me is one thing, the aggressive, harsh, and edit stalking Durin simply was too much for me to handle. I'm very surprised people don't agree just a little bit with thsi, even though to an outsider perhas I am coming across as the problem user...not a problem one, though, just an angry one. -Husnock 01:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Back already?

Hey, you back to your trek stuff? --Cat out 20:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Im in the middle of a nasty dispute about image uploads. See User:Husnock/Durinconcerns. Actually, you have been the underdog on these types of things before...your inputs on the various pages would be MORE than welcome. I am also still serving abroad, just have better internet than I thought I would over here. The miracles of the modern age. -Husnock 21:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I see. I do not want to get involved too much with the dispute since I feel that would be counter-productive. --Cat out 15:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images Pharaoh and Cleopatra (computer game)

I noticed that you are the primary uploaded of images to the Pharaoh and Cleopatra (computer game), and think that the number of copyrighted images uploaded fail fair use criteria #8: copyrighted images should be uploaded if they add "significantly to the article" and should not be uploaded for the sake of illustrating everything in visual form. Most of the images unfortunately should probably be removed. Also regarding the text, for future reference I would recommend not expanding gameplay to such a detailed point because wikipedia is not a "indiscriminate collection of information". Articles should be written in summary form, example would be the similar genre game Empires: Dawn of the Modern World. Thank you for your understanding. - Tutmosis 23:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't follow your use of the term "indiscriminate collection of information". That article is a finely written essay on the entie computer game and I hope it will day reach Featured Article status. -Husnock 10:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Email

I sent you an email. --Cat out 18:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Continued accusations

Re: I am not attacking anything. If the starfleet rank insignia are determined to be in fact not available under a free license, they will be removed from Commons. This does not prevent their being available on en.wikipedia. In fact, I would recommend the be moved from Commons to en.wikipedia rather than simply being deleted. I would not take any particular pleasure or displeasure from seeing this done. If it furthers the needs of the project to have free content only on Commons, then great. That's my goal; to improve the project. This has nothing to do with you or articles you contribute to. It has to do with free content.

Re: I am not dangerous and I have no intention of running people off the project. If people feel they have to leave because they insist on making copyright violations and find it hard to do so here, that is their prerogative. In particular, I don't want to see you leave the project. I really don't. I simply want the images in question to be inline with our policies.

--Durin 18:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Husnock, you are really out of line with your accusations against Durin. You are the one who is not in line with policy, and it is completely uncalled-for to continue to make such statements that he is "flat out dangerous" and running people off the project. You're welcome to raise questions and concerns about the relevant processes civilly; you're not welcome to make wild accusations. Please stop doing so, or we will need to pursue other avenues of resolving this dispute. Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 20:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Since we don't live in North Korea (at least I don't), I have a right to express an opinion about another editor's actions if I see them as harmful to the project. If I were actually calling Durin names then you would have a point. But, I'm not. I'm saying his image campaign is chasing people away and is possible harmful to this project. And, lets look at the last two people I talked to: one user had contacted me about Durin's actions and I answered him with my opinion about the situation. The other user (User:Coolcat) I informed that there was a question about the images of Starfleet ranks and talked about Nogri death commandos and Starfleet aramadas clearly not in a serious way. My last point is that the *only* way Durin could have known I posted those messages was that he is looking under User:Contributions and following my every edit to every page I visit. Thos talk page messages were me sharing opinions with other users, Durin promptly follows me to those pages, and posts the links for all to see AKA "I caught you". Please. With what is going on for me in the real world, ths is almost laughable. With that, I am going back now to the real world to attend to other matters. -Husnock 03:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it's not the *only* way that he could know about those messages. Both Coolcat and Sumoeagle179 had been posting on Durin's talk page prior to Durin's discovery of your posts to them, so it's quite natural that he'd have their pages on his watchlist, or that he'd go and take a look. I often look at the pages of a stranger who sends me a message. At this stage, of course, having realized that you are going around sending messages to anyone who has been in dispute with Durin, it would not be surprising if he does start tracking your talk page contributions. Most people would, if they thought another user might be posting stuff about them, wouldn't they? Isn't that how you found User:Durin/Husnock images? I concur with Kat and with Taxman that Durin is simply trying to enforce the policy, and I ask you to stop making these wild accusations against him. Even here, you say that he has never acknowledged that you're on deployment, and that he has yet to say one word about it, while this edit shows that he had posted you a very nice message thanking you for your service and the sacrifices you are making.

My main point was that, during this edit dispute, he never acknolwedged I was on deployment. Durin put 7 day deletion notices on a number of images that I had uploaded when he knew damn well I was in the Middle East and wouldnt have time to research the high level of information he wanted.

I would strongly urge you to stop looking for people who have had disagreements with Durin over image policy. They have all been in dispute because they were not respecting our policy, and since this case is becoming more and more public, you will only be drawing attention to their past misdemeanors, encouraging potential future ones (perhaps even without intending it) and possibly leading to sanctions against them. For example, it is because of your dispute with Durin that I and others now know that Rlevse deliberately reinserted a fair use image into portal space twice after Durin had removed it with explanation. (See here.) That's a blockable offence. See Jimbo's second message here.

Durin has often spoke of RfCs and ArbComs and stuff like that. If I am to defend against this, I have to have something for the record. In 4 days, I' come across at least 3 users who were royally P.O.ed at his methods. While he may be covered by Wiki policy, people don't seem to get that this attitude of his that he can target someones edits, create pages about them, and openly state they are uploading bad images and violating copyright policies can be extremely offensive and can chase people away from this project.

I appreciate that this is a stressful time for you, and I really don't want it to get any nastier. Perhaps you could step back a little and try to imagine it's someone else who's involved? For example, if you look at the deleted edits of my user page, you'll see that on 14 April, Durin removed a fair use image from a template. He has the edit summary that he used when he first got involved with removing images from your user space — Removing fair use image(s) per terms of Misplaced Pages:Fair_use#Policy item #9 (please see User:Durin/Removal of fair use images for further explanation). It was careless of me not to have realized that I had a fair use image there. But in any case, the next edit summary is from me, and says Thanks, Durin. I didn't realize that. This one is PD. My guess is that Durin added my user page to his watchlist, waited to see how I'd react, and then took my page off his watchlist. If, like you, I had resisted, and even protected my userpage against him, I think he would have left it on my watchlist, come back, and even started looking at my other image contributions. Wouldn't that have been perfectly reasonable?

As stated above, in this free society I am allowed to think wat I want about this user. And, honesetly, he downright scares me. This obsession with iamge removal is not what this project is about. And I am not going to go nto what I think is happening in the real world, one becuase I cant prove it and two it would violate some core policies to post things like that.

Nobody is targetting you. It only seems that way to you because you have resisted. A quick look at Durin's contributions show that he is doing a lot of work with image copyright. If a user accepts the policy, Durin moves on. If a user resists, reverts, and complains, Durin stays around, in spite of the unpleasantness for him. Can't you see how reasonable that is?

Thats reasonable, but I will always think Durin targeted me over the images on my flag/travel page. He didn't like the page, purged it of all the flag iamgs, and then when I tried to find copyright free flags, he did everything he could to prove they were not valid, to the point of calling Navy JAG Officers wrong sating that he knew more that the Public Affairs and Judge Advocate Corps of the United States Navy (to clarify, Durin stated that the JAG offices of CNFK and CNFJ were wrong and couldnt release images to me becuase they still belonged to the source countries (which they don't, the JAG Corps explaned to me, as they were released under clasues of OpOrders, Navy instructions, and in Japan its part of the occupation treaty from WWII).

I really think the best thing for you is to stop resisting. Durin has policy on his side. The policy has Jimbo's backing. In my opinion, there are (or have been) some users who enforce(d) policy with little regard for the human being at the other side. Durin is not one of them. He has been polite and civil throughout. Even the images where the copyright holder is your ex-fiancee or your late grandfather's girlfriend — it's not a big deal if they're deleted, and they should be deleted if they can't be sourced. Take my photos, for example. I'm particularly proud of my apple turnover, which I made and photographed myself. Suppose that had been made and photographed by my mother in law, and I've just walked out on my husband, so it would be a bit embarrassing to make contact with her, then just find another, free image of puff pastry, or else leave the puff pastry article with no image. It's not a big deal. Please, let this go. If it comes to arbitration, it's not going to look good for you, because you have a history of using the protect button in disputes against other administrators, and later saying you didn't know they were administrators. (Remember the time last May when you put up an almighty struggle of reverting and protecting against five administrators who were removing a banned editor's posts from your talk page, after he had posted a link to a site that had his research about real names of admins, with addresses, phone numbers, work addresses, references to parts of their bodies, speculation about their menstrual cycles, creepy scatalogical stuff about their children, articles he had written about their parents, etc., and this after you had been told very politely that he was banned, and you had been given a link to Jimbo's "block on sight revert on sight" message? And the times that you protected User:Husnock/Travel and Pharaoh and Cleopatra the admins had made it perfectly clear in the edit summary that they were removing fair use images.) My admin status is irrelevant, as are Durin's, Will Beback's FeloniousMonk's, Katefan0's and Geni's. What is relevant is the policy or policies to which we referred you.

A) Two protections over misunderstandings is not abuse of admin powers. Ive said before that the Geri user was removing images without explanation and then when approached on the talk page at first didnt answer and contnued to blank article sections and remove images. it looked like a vandal to me and I reverted when I saw that it wasn't. B) I have a vauge memory of the May incident. I know nothing about a website with these horrible things on it, I simply recall it was some info about a Seebee in World War II that I recorded for research in my real world occupation. Thats so long ago and is unrelated to this discussion.

If you keep this up, you will almost certainly find that it goes against you, because your record simply does not stand up to scrutiny. On the other hand, if you drop it, stop making wild accusations against Durin, stop looking for people who have disagreed with him, stop resisting enforcement of copyright policy, everything will be fine, and you can go back to enjoying Misplaced Pages. I'd still love Misplaced Pages if every photo I ever uploaded were deleted, and I can assure you that the people you've been resisting are not people who will hold a grudge and make things difficult for you once you stop resisting policy.

I have no intention of keeping anything up. Since this started, I DELETED the main page with all the image sources. I gave people everything the wanted, down to phone numbers and addresses of mage sources. Recently uploaded images have been in complete compliance with policy. It is Durin who is keeping this up, with the existence of that offensive page, but that battle I have lost. Durin doesn't like me and I dont like him. he has ignored m man contributions to this site and now has a page which exposes me as somekind of image uploader who doesnt respect this site. he further insults me by putting a notice at the top of the page, saying it is suspended until the dispute is resolved but then continues daily postings and edits to the page. To quote the Klingon Ambassador: "There shall be no peace as long as Kirk lives!"

Take care, and keep safe. AnnH ♫ 13:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I try not to wave the flag around to much, but I and the others in the sandbox appreciate it. -Husnock 03:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Durin

Feel free to copy anyting I write about Durin to your page. Rlevse 11:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)