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Fails WP:GNG, WP:V and WP:OR - not a recognized breed, no breed standards, cited sources are neither reliable nor do they establish notability Talk 📧 12:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Talk 📧 12:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- NOTE TO CLOSER - the opening few sentences in the lead state: The Catahoula bulldog is a crossbreed dog created by crossing the Louisiana Catahoula Leopard Dog and the American Bulldog. Currently, they are not considered a breed by any major fancier and breeder organization. WP:NOT applies here - there are millions of Heinz 57 bred dogs, crossbreeds and individual crosses assumed to be a breed when they are not even a consistent type of dog because the information is anecdotally based and is unverifiable. If anything REDIRECT or MERGE to Louisiana Catahoula Leopard dog. Talk 📧 03:55, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: Common enough crossbreed dog over a very long time. Not owned by people interested in 'show dogs'.
- A google search for "Catahoula Bulldog" brings up 1.3 million hits, and over 200,000 if you include the quotation marks for the search.
- This source (as do many others) says the breed has been around for over 100 years, are well known among hunters and farmers, and though they're not recognized by the AKC there's enough specimens and demand for the breed that they are usually bred to each other (not first generation crossbreeds). Also this website . Here is a new article about the breed two months ago.
- The Wayback Machine archived a webpage mentioning the first certified breeder of Catahoula Bulldogs in 1968. This webpage was by Animal Research Foundation, a registry of dogs dedicated to recording pedigrees prior to a breed's acceptance into official kennel clubs such as the AKC. A similar rendition of that webpage was archived from 2001-2010.
- The American Canine Assoc (Vet health tracking canine registry) has a page for the breed .
- The National Kennel Club has a breed standard for a Catahoula Cur, reputed to be the same breed of "pig catch dog".
- The C.B. is mentioned in these Misplaced Pages articles: Dog crossbreed, List of dog breeds, Catch dog, Natural bobtail, Dogs in the United States, and List of fatal dog attacks in the United States (2000s) (a 2007 death involving a Catahoula Bulldog).
- This 2002-archived webpage states the breed origin was "late 1800's".
- This page mentions more of who and when the dog breed was developed further in the 1950's & 1960's.
- Here is a 2010 message board thread discussing Catahoula Bulldogs, including several people who mention having them or knowing someone who has one, and pretty much describing them as working dogs for hog catching.
- Craigslist has several mentioned for sale or rehoming.
- C.B. is noted as one of the top 25 "Most popular mixed-breed dogs" (2016)
- This article shows that C.B. is one of the top googled dog breeds in Louisiana, USA.
- This article mentions a family that lost their C.B. in a kennel incident in Canada , and this German-language article translated to English states "In the USA, the country of origin, the Catahoula Bulldog is quite common; in Europe he is almost unknown."
- Over all, this breed seems notable enough for a standalone article in Misplaced Pages. Recognition by a kennel club or having no show dog status and no breed 'standard' (which is a feature of show dogs), does not disqualify this breed from having its own article in Misplaced Pages. Nomopbs (talk) 01:54, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep/merge Seems to be a common cross and so there are alternatives to deletion such as merger with a parent or into a list such as list of crossbred dogs, which we prefer per our policy WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 09:20, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Strong Keep: This dog breed is notable and should have it's own article. Aquatastetalk 11:09, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per rationale given above. Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep It is definitely notable enough to remain. HAL333 02:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Definitely notable, requires citations added to the article. AvalerionV 20:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
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