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Original text

Thank you for adding the original non-English text to the note in Banate of Bosnia. Could you please do the same with the rest of the quoted text. --T*U (talk) 12:45, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@TU-nor: Added. Mikola22 (talk) 14:18, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Good! Also the first part, please. --T*U (talk) 14:44, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@TU-nor: Added. Mikola22 (talk) 14:49, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Blocked

TomStar81 (Talk) 00:13, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Removing sourced content

Any further removal of sourced content, as seen on Statuta Valachorum will be reason enough for a report and possible blockage. ty Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 21:33, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Sadko: Other sources do not mention Serbs so we must respect and those sources as well. So reason for possible blockage it doesn't exist but you can report me. Mikola22 (talk) 21:42, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

You are cherry picking and searching/favouring sources per your POV, you know why and I as well know why. Any further edits will be closely followed. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 21:44, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Sadko: Everything is based on sources and cherry picking is fact i.e. claim that term Vlachs denotes mainly Serbs, where are Croats here, Bulgarians, Balkan Vlachs, Croatian and Bosnian Vlachs, Albanians etc.Mikola22 (talk) 21:53, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Sadko: Sources(boks, historians, historical documents) in Varaždin Generalate and Statuta Valachorum mentione Vlachs without Serbs and with Serbs(in any case mostly are mentioned Vlachs). And I placed Vlachs with the Serbs(I didn't delete anything here). What I needed to do? Otherwise there are mentioned and Hajduks, Uskoks, Croatian serfs etc but I did not place them with Vlachs and Serbs. The only thing I deleted was the term "Vlachs who are mostly Serbs" this requires consensus because this is an area of Varaždin Generalate for wich we have books that speaks about Croatian serfs which cross over to the Vlach side and who become a part of Statuta Valachorum and Vlachs in that area. And also place where it should be spoken about term Vlach is article about Vlachs not in article who talks about Statuta Valachorum. In any case if you find a concrete mistake feel free to expose it on talk page.Mikola22 (talk) 06:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

The sea is wet, not matter how many sources do not mention the fact.Slatersteven (talk) 09:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: I don't know if i need to clarify something? Article talks about Vlachs statuts (Statuta Valachorum) name says who they are. In that area and Vlach community according to some data and books nearly half of them are Croatian serfs (Croatian parliament at that time discussed that problem) but in the records and books are also mentioned and Uskoks, Hajduks, Vlachs, Rascians etc while the name Vlachs is for them all( claim of historian). The article mentions Serbs but they are least mentioned in that part of Croatia although they are found throughout the whole article. We need to synchronize that with sources otherwise we could rename article to Serbian statuts. Mikola22 (talk) 10:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Do any of these source actually say that they were not Serbs? Note it does not matter if they were not serbs in 1800 or 1900 or 2000, do any sources say that the use of the word "Vlachs" in connection with the subject of the article did not include Serbs?Slatersteven (talk) 10:09, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven:I did not delete any information about Serbs but I put Vlachs with them(although I may have put and others which are mentioned in the books) my source does not mention Serbs in that part of Croatia(so they do not specifically say that they are not Serbs, but they say that they are Croats, Hajduks and others). Other source mention Serbs and Vlachs while one Serbian source mentions only Serbs(who allegedly came to Vienna). The most neutral are name Vlach but in the article are mention and Serbs (I do not know how correct is this, considering that and others are mentioned there, Croats etc which are not mentioned in the article. As for the claim that Vlachs in that area are mostly Serbs(slightly older sources) for that must be consensus because they are the least mentioned there, and I deleted those two quotes and left part of those quotes which talking about Vlachs from same sources.Mikola22 (talk) 10:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

So no then, you have no source that says (in this context) Vlachs does not refer to Serbs. You have been told to read wp:or before.Slatersteven (talk) 10:44, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: I forgot to say that this 2019 Hungarian source speaks of the influence of the Serbian Orthodox Church in the 19th century on the basis of which the Orthodox became Serbs and on the basis they became Croats(Catholic churche). So it is assumed that they were not Serbs or Croats at that time. Also the sources which mentione Serbs do not mention that they are not Vlachs so I do not know what that should mean? One source mentions Vlachs, second mentione Serbs, third mentione Vlachs and Uskoks, fourth Serbs and Vlachs etc. No source says Vlachs are not Serbs, Serbs are not Uskoks, Vlachs are not Hajduks etc.Mikola22 (talk) 11:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

No, but we need a source defining what Vlachs in the context of the subject of the article, not the 19thC or the 19th. The subejct of the article might have used Vlachs to mean Serbs, Uskocks or just "that bunch of people who live in that hut over there". Now (apparently) there are sources that say this document referred to Serbs. Do you have a source that says the Statuta Valachorum referred to anyone other than Serbs?Slatersteven (talk) 11:05, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: Now (apparently) there are sources that say this document referred to Serbs. You mean exclusively Serbs? The some sources mentione Serbs and Vlachs, my Hungarian source from 2019 does not mention Serbs as part of Statuta Valachorum. In Croatian historiography I didn't notice that Statuta Valachorum refer to Serbs, the name alone says that this document is about Vlachs (it is mentioned in books and original documents). And I brought that fact from that source into the article. There are other sources but they are mostly from Croatia. In this area is the largest crossing of the Croatian serfs to Vlachs area so it doesn't even make sense to write about Serbs in that area at least as far as Croatian historians are concerned.Mikola22 (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I see multiple edit war warnings, a block, I suggest you move into a less controversial topic are that Balkan races before you get a TANB.Slatersteven (talk) 10:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: I only have one block because one editor reported me but he was blocked too. We didn't agree on something and that's it. Multiple edit war warnings put some of editors so I started to put him such alerts on talk page. It is not warning from the admins etc. So everything is fine and don't worryMikola22 (talk) 11:06, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

December 2019

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January 2020

Mikola22 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I made an edit because source of citation is RS and explained here https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Rascians, and this is stated when I returned citation, https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rascians&action=history I think there is no dispute here when everything is clear. Mikola22 (talk) 16:15, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You were blocked for violating WP:EW, yet haven't addressed this in your unblock request. Yamla (talk) 20:53, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

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• Mikola22, I've removed the dialog between you and Slatersteven. While blocked, you are permitted only to discuss your block, not discuss the editing of Misplaced Pages articles.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

  I didn't know that and I apologize.Mikola22 (talk) 18:26, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

  Thank you.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:29, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Mikola22 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I think that I have not violated WP:EW and three-revert rule which is evident in the article. ] I made edit because source of citation is RS and explained. ] Because that was reason for deleting(no RS) after explanation I returned the article to its original state so i think there is no reason for blook. I do not know procedure and if that is not enough for appeal I respect the punishment and I will no longer complain, happy new year and greeting.Mikola22 (talk) 21:24, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

It appears that the block has expired. SQL 15:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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• Hi Mikola22. I have noticed your edits and I appreciate your desire as a new editor to add new content to several Balkan articles that need attention. It is a good thing, and I see much potential if you respect the rules and accept advice from experienced editors. In this case, you have been involved in edit warring. One can be blocked for edit warring even if they do not make 4 or more reverts within 24 hours. Edit warring is a behaviour. It means that one shows they will keep reverting on an article. You reverted several times although your addition of new content needs consensus. If you reflect, understand you could have solved the issue without making several reverts within a short period of time, and promise to not continue edit-warring, almost certainly the blocking admin will unblock you. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:04, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
• Mikola22, I warned you above - and you said you understood - that you cannot discuss articles while blocked. I removed the discussion and have revoked your access to this page.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:12, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Mikola, as I said in my previous comment that is now removed due to your response that touched the content dispute, such content disputes are best discussed on the relevant article's talk page. I expected you would focus on the reason of the block and promise to not get involved in edit warring again. That would have done things much easier for you. Anyways, I am willing to help you since you are a new editor and have already shown a desire to add new content to controversial articles that need attention. You are one of the very rare editors willing and having the guts to do that. If you want some advice or help from me later, you can leave a note on my talk page or ping me somewhere. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 14:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Alleged offence and what not

I do not think that I offended you or anything like that, and that was not my intent. I was talking about the text/possible viewpoint and not you, Mikola22. I am sorry that you feel offended. cheers Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 23:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sadko:I wish you no harm but you have to understand that Vlachs are and Croats, Bosniaks etc. We cannot make Serbs of the Vlachs because then we from Croats, Bosniaks etc make Serbs. Article Slavonia I quote: To replace the fleeing Croats, the Habsburgs called on the Orthodox populations of Bosnia and Serbia to provide military service in the Croatian Military Frontier. Serb migration into this region peaked during the Great Serb Migrations of 1690 and 1737–39. Do you see when the masses of Serbs come to Slavonia and more to the eastern part of Slavonia and towards Vojvodina. As far as Varaždin Generalate and Statuta Valachorum is concerned (1630 and earlier) under Vlach name are everyone there(I've talked about it before). The Serbs are the least mentioned there but the whole article talk about them. Hold such a state of the article is not in good faith. When I suggested to another editor that this we must change for the better you did not in good faith discuss Statuta Valachorum article but you started accusing me of being a Nazi follower. Obviously you want that article to be in that state and you don't want changes but that is not good faith. In any case I hope you will improve for the better and start to respect and Croatian etc history. Mikola22 (talk) 08:19, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

January 2020

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I edited the article according to the sources. Another editor adds some clames that are not in the sources. I suggested that everything be discussed on talk page but nothing specific is mentioned as a problem except some word. Eventually it will be according to the sources so I don't know the motive of another editor to RV article, probably vandalism. Mikola22 (talk) 15:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

RfC started

As requested, I have started a RfC at Talk:Josip Runjanin#RfC about ethnicity. --T*U (talk) 08:19, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you.Mikola22 (talk) 12:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Partial block from Croatia

El_C 21:10, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Mikola22 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

If someone persistently puts information which is not in the source and says that knows that and has no dialogue whatsoever on talk page, how is possible that I was punished who move this information which is not in the source? Misplaced Pages should reward me. Please reward me for this, cancel this block. Thank you.Mikola22 (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You're blocked for edit warring, not for being wrong. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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I was blocked also. Being blocked doesn't mean you are a bad person, or that your prosecutor and judge, who punished you, are good people. Keep the faith! We are survivors! Wallie (talk) 14:56, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

@Wallie: Thanks for the nice words because it means a lot to me considering I'm here alone and it is raining outside. It is not the end of the world if we are blocked because I will try to improve Misplaced Pages for the better as I can but there is a lot of work and a little understanding. I hope for better days for you and me.Mikola22 (talk) 15:13, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

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		For your continuous work against POV-pushing and blatant vandalism, congratulations! OyMosby (talk) 02:44, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Slavonia

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Sitewide block

El_C 18:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Arbitration sanction

Upon your return to editing, you will be subject to a 1RR restriction on all articles that fall under the topic of Eastern Europe or the Balkans, broadly construed. The duration I fixed to this restriction is indefinite, however, you may appeal it no less than six months after it takes effect (2 months from now). El_C 18:26, 20 February 2020 (UTC)