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Hi, Mz7 - {{u|Awilley}} made a suggestion at ] for me to basically conduct an in-depth review as follows: {{xt|pointing out specific actionable problems and tagging the relevant sections, paragraphs, or sentences where appropriate}}. It made me think about {{u|CaptainEek}}'s at the original GAR3 wherein he said: {{xt|But unless a group of contributors is willing to come together to save it, I would opt to delist (And no, I don't have time to join a GA team I'm afraid).}} Granted, few understand the GAR process, and I truly didn't believe it would have been a controversial delist considering the blindingly obvious circumstances, but I'm a team player, problem-solver, and always willing to collaborate productively. My suggestion to you - what do you think about forming a team with 3 collaborators to address Awilley's suggestion? I would appreciate the opportunity to collaborate with you and one other editor, {{u|BD2412}}, who has excellent writing skills. A team of 3 will give us a 2 to 1 decision-making advantage to avoid loggerheads. I have collaborated with BD2412 in the past (at his invitation) to help stabilize ], (I just did a splash of ce) and now I am reciprocating with this invite. 😇 But having said the aforementioned, I'm not sure it is the right path to take. Maintenance tags get removed and actually tend to create more issues. I am open to suggestions as to how best to proceed. Thank you for your consideration. ] <sub>]</sub> ] 23:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC) Hi, Mz7 - {{u|Awilley}} made a suggestion at ] for me to basically conduct an in-depth review as follows: {{xt|pointing out specific actionable problems and tagging the relevant sections, paragraphs, or sentences where appropriate}}. It made me think about {{u|CaptainEek}}'s at the original GAR3 wherein he said: {{xt|But unless a group of contributors is willing to come together to save it, I would opt to delist (And no, I don't have time to join a GA team I'm afraid).}} Granted, few understand the GAR process, and I truly didn't believe it would have been a controversial delist considering the blindingly obvious circumstances, but I'm a team player, problem-solver, and always willing to collaborate productively. My suggestion to you - what do you think about forming a team with 3 collaborators to address Awilley's suggestion? I would appreciate the opportunity to collaborate with you and one other editor, {{u|BD2412}}, who has excellent writing skills. A team of 3 will give us a 2 to 1 decision-making advantage to avoid loggerheads. I have collaborated with BD2412 in the past (at his invitation) to help stabilize ], (I just did a splash of ce) and now I am reciprocating with this invite. 😇 But having said the aforementioned, I'm not sure it is the right path to take. Maintenance tags get removed and actually tend to create more issues. I am open to suggestions as to how best to proceed. Thank you for your consideration. ] <sub>]</sub> ] 23:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
: I appreciate you thinking of me, but Joe Biden is a whole other kettle of fish, and frankly is likely to be a locus of chaos for the next six-and-a-half months. I'd just as soon let others fight the battles that are going to be fought there. ] ] 23:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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00:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Moe szylak block evasion

Hi there. Just to let you know that I've picked up on some block evasion from IPs today, relating to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Moe szylak. IPs that I've blocked are 154.121.26.103, 154.121.26.39, 154.121.28.63 and 154.121.27.3. I thought I'd let you know in case there's anything else that can be done to identify other instances of block evasion in this case. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Cordless Larry! I will take a look. Mz7 (talk) 19:56, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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Ignore the auto notice on this. I twas just a slow screen msiclick. Sorry Meters (talk) 09:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

@Meters: Heh, I've definitely done this before. No worries. Mz7 (talk) 09:13, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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You may wish to revoke TPA.--Cahk (talk) 09:25, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Mz7 (talk) 11:29, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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17:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day, Mz7, from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day! CAPTAIN RAJU 04:29, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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:O Wow. 10 years. A long time. Mz7 (talk) 22:21, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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Request for roll backer rights

Hello Mz7, I appreciate your administrative work you are doing. I have been editing Misplaced Pages for some time and have knowledge of Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines. I request for roll backer rights to enable me fight vandalism. I kindly request you to grant my request. King Onyx (talk) 05:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi King Onyx, thanks for contacting me. I took a look through your contributions, and I am not seeing sufficient experience with identifying and reverting vandalism, which is the primary use of the rollback right. I noticed that in the past, you have used Twinkle to welcome new editors to Misplaced Pages. Twinkle also provides a lot of useful tools against vandalism, such as a "rollback" button that works similar to the rollback button provided by the rollback right. If you are interested in learning more about counter-vandalism, we also have a mentorship program that may interest you at WP:CVUA. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask me.
On a related note, I noticed that you have unsuccessfully requested multiple permissions today, one quickly after the other. Some of these requests demonstrate to me that you may not be carefully reading all of the policies and guidelines associated with the rights you are applying for, which makes me concerned that you have not carefully read the guidelines on the rollback permission before applying. For these reasons, I'm afraid your request is  Not done. Respectfully, Mz7 (talk) 18:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

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17:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Locked account is still disrupting through an IP

As you can see by these edits. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@GPL93: Blocked, thanks Mz7 (talk) 19:54, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thank you. Drmies (talk) 12:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
@Drmies: For what you've been through, I'd say I should be the one to buy you the beer today! Mz7 (talk) 20:32, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Ha, one gets used to it. While you were typing this, I was looking at this, whose edit summary was borrowed from one of those edits from that range. Maybe you can learn more--it's odd but it doesn't have to mean they're the same. Certainly geolocation and machinery are quite different. Drmies (talk) 20:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

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Can you add User:Seden777, with a CU block? Thanks! Drmies (talk) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@Drmies: Sure, I added a new "pro forma" SPI report that lists the account you blocked . Mz7 (talk) 18:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Wilma Archer amendments

Hello.

The wikipedia account represents the artist in question.

From this account there have been several attempts made to update (the currently invalid and outdated) segments of the page in question - which have been repeatedly overturned - despite the amendments being supplied with legitimate citations and references from widely credible and verified publications.

This unbiased, accurate, verifiable and new information is coming direct from the artist's representation - and the constant edit refusals / reversals from the watchers on this page are harming the credibility of wikipedia as a source of factual information and the artist's accessible public information.

Sockpuppet investigation help

I don't know exactly where to turn for this since discussion was closed, but I have concerns about a comment at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Ineedtostopforgetting/Archive#03_April_2020. First, I had only identified the similarity, having not actually spotted that the exact same edit had been made. Second, without that edit, would the investigation not have gone through? This seems to be a dedicated sockpuppet, and one who seems intent on continuing to sock, having done so for at least 6 months over several accounts. Isn't there a risk that if we demand such exact similarities in editing style, that the person learns to avoid investigation? @Cryptic Canadian: as well. Also regarding the comment about devices, with the risk that this will be spotted, that is quite easy to spoof. (Feel free to hide this last comment in the edit history if needed) Carl Fredrik 07:19, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi CFCF, you bring up great points. Yes, there absolutely is such a risk, and I tried to be as vague as possible about the underlying technical details, but ultimately it remains. We have an essay about the phenomenon as well: WP:BEANS. In hindsight, I don't disagree with your thoughts, so I removed the comment from the archive. In every sockpuppet investigation, we have to balance the amount of information we disclose for the purpose of future identification of the sockmaster with the risk of tipping to sockmaster off to what we are looking for. In this case, I felt that the information you provided us ("similar articles edited, similar editing practices to socks") was too vague for me to justify checking the account—I had to go through the user's contributions myself and identify more concrete examples of the similarity. The two diffs I mentioned were just one such similarity I found. In the future, I would perhaps give slightly more detail. Diffs would be ideal (and are technically required by SPI procedures), but at least try to mention the specific articles the accounts are targeting or the specific "editing practices" that you find similar. As for how much detail to mention, ultimately this is a matter of judgment. It would save time for SPI volunteers, as they wouldn't have to look for this information themselves, and it would also help prevent your SPI from being delayed. I hope this helps clarify my thinking process, and I would be happy to answer any other questions you might have. Mz7 (talk) 16:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
@CFCF: It's true that someone could fly under the radar if they tried harder, but I would think that someone who keeps getting blocked for socking/edit warring over the exact same topics does not care about their image very much. For my SPI contributions regarding this user, the biggest giveaways were when they were changing the exact same wording in the exact same passage in the exact same article, and then getting into edit wars with the exact same user. This person created new socks and revived old accounts just to try and remove nine specific words from the lead for POV reasons. Hiding from scrutiny would require them to sock somewhere else, but they've now sacrificed several accounts just to change this one sentence. It's going to be hard for them to cover up that kind of dedication going forward.
On top of that, their previous behavior surprises me that they weren't already caught for doing obviously sock-ish things, like when they made significant changes to an article, and then used a brand new sock to promote it to GA. Or when they basically admitted on an admin's talk page that they were using alternative accounts while their main had a rap sheet of recent blocks. Had I seen either of those, I would have started digging right away. These seem like things that would attract suspicion from relatively experienced editors. Cryptic Canadian 22:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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Joe Biden

Hi Mz7, thanks for volunteering to help close the RfC at Talk:Joe Biden. Given Thryduulf's reply at AN and the comments on that talk page, I'd rather not wait to unprotect the page. My current plan is to place the archive templates with the statement: "Given rough consensus for inclusion, the article is no longer under full protection. A more detailed close will be provided by Mz7 and Thryduulf shortly." Would this be stepping on toes or do you anticipate any problems with that? — Wug·a·po·des00:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Responded at AN Mz7 (talk) 01:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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Draft:Nikka Starr

I think maybe this needs to be salted to stop repeated re-creation of a biography of a minor, thanks Theroadislong (talk) 08:03, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Looks like another admin salted it already at the autoconfirmed level. The account's been blocked too. Mz7 (talk) 21:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Request

Hi, Mz7 - Awilley made a suggestion at GAR/Joe Biden/1 for me to basically conduct an in-depth review as follows: pointing out specific actionable problems and tagging the relevant sections, paragraphs, or sentences where appropriate. It made me think about CaptainEek's suggestion at the original GAR3 wherein he said: But unless a group of contributors is willing to come together to save it, I would opt to delist (And no, I don't have time to join a GA team I'm afraid). Granted, few understand the GAR process, and I truly didn't believe it would have been a controversial delist considering the blindingly obvious circumstances, but I'm a team player, problem-solver, and always willing to collaborate productively. My suggestion to you - what do you think about forming a team with 3 collaborators to address Awilley's suggestion? I would appreciate the opportunity to collaborate with you and one other editor, BD2412, who has excellent writing skills. A team of 3 will give us a 2 to 1 decision-making advantage to avoid loggerheads. I have collaborated with BD2412 in the past (at his invitation) to help stabilize Matthew Whitaker, (I just did a splash of ce) and now I am reciprocating with this invite. 😇 But having said the aforementioned, I'm not sure it is the right path to take. Maintenance tags get removed and actually tend to create more issues. I am open to suggestions as to how best to proceed. Thank you for your consideration. Talk 📧 23:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate you thinking of me, but Joe Biden is a whole other kettle of fish, and frankly is likely to be a locus of chaos for the next six-and-a-half months. I'd just as soon let others fight the battles that are going to be fought there. BD2412 T 23:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC)