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	{{ping\|MistyGraceWhite}} again the fact that the awards scheme doesn't have a Misplaced Pages page doesn't mean it's a minor awards unless you can point to a Misplaced Pages position on what a minor awards or major awards is which you clearly not added in your response to me. Like I said in Ghana the ] is a major media house and for them to be partnering with this awards should tell you the pedigree of such an award. Like I said if you have the benefit of the Ghanaian media landscape you would understand clearly why I say so. So as it stands it's your word against mine so bring something substantial with your critique.] (]) 18:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)		{{ping\|MistyGraceWhite}} again the fact that the awards scheme doesn't have a Misplaced Pages page doesn't mean it's a minor awards unless you can point to a Misplaced Pages position on what a minor awards or major awards is which you clearly not added in your response to me. Like I said in Ghana the ] is a major media house and for them to be partnering with this awards should tell you the pedigree of such an award. Like I said if you have the benefit of the Ghanaian media landscape you would understand clearly why I say so. So as it stands it's your word against mine so bring something substantial with your critique.] (]) 18:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
			:@] It is not my word against yours, it is the view of reliable sources against your opinion. You are misinterpreting the ANYBIO#1. The awards mentioned there, the kind which confer notability and allow a person to actually inherit notability in a way, are the ones which are given due a significant impact of that person's work in his field. You should instead consult the MUSICBIO guideline which points out that a major award isslike d\|Grammy]], ], ], ] or ] award"

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J.Derobie

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Fails MUSICBIO. No indepth mention in any RS MistyGraceWhite (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU 20:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU 20:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 05:47, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Weak delete. The subject lacks in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources. He fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. He did released the hit single "Poverty" and was nominated for multiple VGMAs, but I think this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. None of the songs he has released has been discussed in reliable source. Versace1608 12:57, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Weak keep as he had a hit single and was nominated for some notable music awards but more significant coverage in reliable sources is needed, hence a weak keep, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Keep. J.Derobie has so many independent sources speaking about him an his music which makes him pass of as notable to have an article. He also has been nominated in two major awards schemes in Ghana and has won one award from one of the award scheme.Owula kpakpo (talk) 16:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@User:Owula kpakpo He has not won any major award in music, he has won a very minor award. An award whose facebook page is barely noticeable with only 25K likes, and whose twitter is even less popular. Saying that this award somehow allows him to inherit notability is wrong on so many levels. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@MistyGraceWhite: So to you an award has to have lots of social media following to become major is that the argument you making. 3 music awards is in it's third year of existence a simple Google search who would show you how popular and major the scheme is to Ghanaians and Ghanaian musicians. I live in Ghana and I believe with benefit of my location I am confident of my assertion that the award scheme is major is very right. Using social media numbers to make such an assertion is not right mind you 3 music awards is featured in almost every prominent media website in Ghana.Owula kpakpo (talk) 17:53, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@User:Owula kpakpo it may be a major award to you, but it is not mentioned in any Reliable sources as being a major award, so according to wikipedia it is a minor almost nothing award. The social media numbers were just to explain it to you, but seeing that you did not get my point, it does not matter. The award is a minor award according to wikipedia standards, and winning such a minor award does not make this guy notable. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 17:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@MistyGraceWhite: again the fact that the awards scheme doesn't have a Misplaced Pages page doesn't mean it's a minor awards unless you can point to a Misplaced Pages position on what a minor awards or major awards is which you clearly not added in your response to me. Like I said in Ghana the Multimedia Group Limited is a major media house and for them to be partnering with this awards should tell you the pedigree of such an award. Like I said if you have the benefit of the Ghanaian media landscape you would understand clearly why I say so. So as it stands it's your word against mine so bring something substantial with your critique.Owula kpakpo (talk) 18:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@User:Owula kpakpo It is not my word against yours, it is the view of reliable sources against your opinion. You are misinterpreting the ANYBIO#1. The awards mentioned there, the kind which confer notability and allow a person to actually inherit notability in a way, are the ones which are given due a significant impact of that person's work in his field. You should instead consult the MUSICBIO guideline which points out that a major award isslike d|Grammy]], Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award"

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	{{ping\|MistyGraceWhite}} again the fact that the awards scheme doesn't have a Misplaced Pages page doesn't mean it's a minor awards unless you can point to a Misplaced Pages position on what a minor awards or major awards is which you clearly not added in your response to me. Like I said in Ghana the ] is a major media house and for them to be partnering with this awards should tell you the pedigree of such an award. Like I said if you have the benefit of the Ghanaian media landscape you would understand clearly why I say so. So as it stands it's your word against mine so bring something substantial with your critique.] (]) 18:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)		{{ping\|MistyGraceWhite}} again the fact that the awards scheme doesn't have a Misplaced Pages page doesn't mean it's a minor awards unless you can point to a Misplaced Pages position on what a minor awards or major awards is which you clearly not added in your response to me. Like I said in Ghana the ] is a major media house and for them to be partnering with this awards should tell you the pedigree of such an award. Like I said if you have the benefit of the Ghanaian media landscape you would understand clearly why I say so. So as it stands it's your word against mine so bring something substantial with your critique.] (]) 18:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
			:@] It is not my word against yours, it is the view of reliable sources against your opinion. You are misinterpreting the ANYBIO#1. The awards mentioned there, the kind which confer notability and allow a person to actually inherit notability in a way, are the ones which are given due a significant impact of that person's work in his field. You should instead consult the MUSICBIO guideline which points out that a major award isslike d\|Grammy]], ], ], ] or ] award"

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