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Excessive information?

I note that this article (~16k words) has a higher word-count than the articles on Cardiovascular disease (~5k words) and Cancer (10k words) combined. While word-count is certainly not a direct measure of the importance of the subject of an article, it still feels excessive given that cancer and heart disease are incredibly complex diseases under extensive study which kill about half of all humans, while West is a single human. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.38.212 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Note that this user has since been blocked. However just as a general point I would argue that most information on a person is contained in a single article whereas articles on disease can and do branch out into many large sub-areas of those diseases meaning that this logic seems poor. Jclaxp (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

And how does this article merit semi-protected status??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.185.130.109 (talk) 01:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Note your other comment has been removed. BLP also applies to talk pages. See Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines. Jclaxp (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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Mentions of Rick Rubin in "2013–15: Yeezus and Adidas collaboration" need to be linked to https://en.wikipedia.org/Rick_Rubin. Rootoflinux (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

 Already done Aasim 21:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Kanye West to have a 2020 album Donda

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrolli/2020/07/18/kanye-west-announces-new-album-donda/#1ebf98ed1523

There are reports that Kanye West is about to promote an album called Donda. But that is coming into play when he is going to be on the ballot in Oklahoma and South Carolina.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/18/kanye-west-petition-south-carolina-ballot-2020

https://kfor.com/your-local-election-hq/kanye-west-qualifies-for-oklahoma-general-election-ballot-running-as-independent-presidential-candidate/

73.71.164.202 (talk) 00:51, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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He’s 43 now 108.77.4.94 (talk) 05:18, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. TheImaCow (talk) 05:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Ye name

Hi, Bzweebl originally removed this paragraph from the article():

In September 2018, West announced on Twitter that being "formally known as Kanye West," he was now "YE." He had been using that name for some time as a nickname and as an album title.

I thought Kanye went by this name everywhere however I've since found out that's not the case, So my question is does this paragraph need to be here at all ?,

Thanks, –Davey2010 20:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

References

1. Cite error: The named reference The Guardian 29 September 2018 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
2. "Kanye West changes name to Ye". September 30, 2018. Retrieved October 6, 2018 – via www.bbc.com.
3. Evans, Morgan (September 29, 2018). "Kanye West announces his new name is 'Ye' ahead of 'SNL' appearance". Retrieved October 6, 2018.

• Thanks for posting this. If we do want to keep a sentence about the name Ye, it certainly doesn't deserve its own section like it has now. Personally I haven't seen reliable sources use that name at all, and the only coverage of it was immediately surrounding the announcement and album release. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 21:00, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

No worries User:Bzweebl, I've gone ahead and self-reverted my undo as I do agree a whole section just isn't needed, FWIW he also goes by "privatekanye" on Instagram but I don't see a section or a care in the world for that, I apologise for reverting, Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010 21:25, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Bzweebl: @Davey2010: Just to add to this conversation. My understanding is that Ye is a common nickname he uses now, used to a high degree with kanye still being what he normally goes by. I can't think of any videos right now but I've definitely heard him discuss it before. A little more information is available here: Ye (album)#Artwork and title Jclaxp (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Official website

Davey2010 I just wanted to add a comment in relation to your removal of the official website from the external links. It currently only contains YZY and a blue world blue but I would contend that its important because it constantly changes depending upon new releases and new things going on. The current blue world is for the previous Jesus is King and Jesus is Born music, and will change possibly with links to music/tours etc when new music is announced. It now, possibly since you checking, contains a link to his new announcement on 'yeezy Gap'. I would suggest keeping the website. Also try checking how often it changes and how much it changes here: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.kanyewest.com/

Hi, Having looked through the archives this, this, this and this - The 2+3 diffs could be argued as being helpful but the other 2 and the live version are all hopelessly useless so therefore I don't see a reason to include it - All Albums and even singles are no doubt advertising across all of this social medias therefore making his official website redundant,

Looking at his archives most if not all versions are blank, are a video, are tour dates and are one vynal with his work on it.

As I said in short I'm not seeing a reason to include it if it generally only contains a video or like here "YZY" with a blue globe. Thanks. –Davey2010 12:10, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Davey2010 Just out of question, why did you removed my signature from the previous comment? I would disagree that most things are advertised across social media as he doesn't use Instagram (usually Kim puts stuff up for him), and very rarely uses twitter anymore. Things tend to be extremely minimalistic when it comes to how he markets himself online, hence the website being so simple. My understanding from the fans is that small changes on the website usually indicate large things happening. See here for an example. But I think from the general public's point of view your angle on things would make the most sense, so I'm happy to agree with your changes. Jclaxp talk 12:27, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Presidential campaign material in the lead

Regarding this, this and this? JFG, besides the fact that the lead should typically be no longer than four paragraphs, per WP:Lead, I do not see why this presidential campaign material should be in the lead. It's WP:Recentism. And as I state this, there is debate at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kanye West 2020 presidential campaign about whether or not a Kanye West 2020 presidential campaign article should even exist.

I'll alert the WP:BLP noticeboard to this matter for wider input. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 01:10, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

From BLPN, the presidental run is not sufficiently notable for the lede as it came and went faster than most typical candidates. He's not going to be remembered for that at this point, and thus should be omitted from the lede. --Masem (t) 02:46, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

MOS:LEADREL and WP:RECENT. It's a relatively trivial incident in his life at this point. If it continues to get coverage leading up to the election it might be DUE for the lead at some point. —DIYeditor (talk) 16:56, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

• Kanye West just got called out for a rant about Harriet Tubman on the Campaign Trail. 73.71.164.202 (talk) 03:05, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

• West has suggested he will run in 2024 and he's accessing ballots for 2020 despite his late entry. If he's going to be a political figure over the next few years then I think adding his political activity to the lead is warranted. JJARichardson (talk) 13:47, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
• I would say not just yet; it's not a significant part of what he's notable for yet, and he seems to already be moving on to other stuff. In terms of his future activity, WP:NOTCRYSTAL applies. --Aquillion (talk) 00:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
• This should not be in the lead per WP:RECENTISM. As his wife's statement makes clear, this is part of his bipolar disorder. It's a sensitive BLP issues. And who knows if he'll still be "running" when the manic episode ends? – Muboshgu (talk) 00:37, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
• That may be true, but I would suggest it is not for us to judge West's motives. The mental fitness of Trump and Biden is often challenged by their opponents. West could win a small percentage of the vote but still be the most successful independent presidential candidate since Ross Perot. JJARichardson (talk) 13:36, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

  JJARichardson, "could" = WP:CRYSTAL. Let him get 10%-15% of the popular vote and we can reconsider. And questions of Trump and Biden's "fitness" is apples and oranges when that is mostly political attacks by opponents, while KKW is putting out a statement that asks for compassion because of the manic episode that is influencing Kanye's behavior. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

  If West soon drops out then I agree lead inclusion would be unnecessary, but if he received just 4% of the vote - slightly ahead of Gary Johnson in 2016 - he would be the most successful third party candidate since 1996. But I agree we should give it some time and see if West carries on seeking ballot access. JJARichardson (talk) 16:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Kanye west Net worth

On April 24, 2020, Forbes declared Kanye west a billionaire worth $1.3 billion. Forbes is the best source to know if one is a billionaire and they have declared him a billionaire. He is the second hip hop billionaire and he is also listed on the richest black billionaires on Misplaced Pages. I don't think it is controversial to state net worth on a biography especially when the net worth of hip hop artists like Jay, Sean Combs, Dr. Dre are stated and Kanye west is not. Forbes is known for ranking billionaires and is used often here as a source to rank billionaires. I also notice that his wife (Kim Kardashian) was recently updated to $900 million which was declared by Forbes last month but Kanye West's net worth is not. AnaghaIyanre (talk) 15:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Size of the article and tagging it as "very long"

Unforgettableid, regarding this, this, this and this? In what way do you feel that the article has a WP:SIZE issue? You must explain and gain WP:Consensus for the matter. Simply engaging in WP:Drive-by tagging does not mean that your tags get to stay. It looks like you weren't even sure about the tag when adding it. You clearly stated, "Article is probably far too long; I guess it should be condensed more, using summary style." Furthermore, WP:SIZERULE is clear that it's a guideline and states things like "probably." So it was wrong of you to edit war over re-adding this tag and then giving JJARichardson this warning. Yes, JJARichardson challenged your drive-by tagging. He did not deserve that warning for doing so, especially since you did not start a talk page discussion explaining/justifying the tag. At least going by this, it seems that you are aware that WP:SIZE is mainly about readable prose, not the things (like references) that make an article seem longer than it is. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 19:59, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2020/04/24/kanye-west-is-now-officially-a-billionaireand-he-really-wants-the-world-to-know/#145b52517b9e

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