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*'''Comment''': This category covered universities in mainland China, until a few Wikipedians came around and fed the Hong Kong and Macau categories in. This category should be renamed ] (and create ] as an umbrella for the three PRC categories). This will also address the problem that some mainland Chinese universities had ceased operation before the PRC was established in 1949. &mdash; ]] 12:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC) *'''Comment''': This category covered universities in mainland China, until a few Wikipedians came around and fed the Hong Kong and Macau categories in. This category should be renamed ] (and create ] as an umbrella for the three PRC categories). This will also address the problem that some mainland Chinese universities had ceased operation before the PRC was established in 1949. &mdash; ]] 12:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


*'''Absolute oppose''' a category titled Mainland China. The naming scheme has been to have the PRC named category as top-level and any administrative division (provinces, the ARs, the SARS, the municipalities, etc) with their own subcats. Mainland China is not an administrative division, it's a biased political term used to divide some parts of the country from the rest. ] 16:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC) *'''Absolute oppose''' a category titled Mainland China. The naming scheme has been to have the PRC named category as top-level and any administrative division (provinces, the ARs, the SARS, the municipalities, etc) with their own subcats. Mainland China is not an administrative division, it's a biased political term used to divide some parts of the country from the rest. (viewing history), the original nomination is correct. XX in/of the PRC. ] 16:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


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Category:National Reality Television participants

Category:National Reality Television participants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete as nom. EJBanks (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) just keeps pilin' it on, huh? For the uninitiated, this is another bad category from a persistant and willfully ignorant user. Redundant with all the other "participants" categorized, overly, and perhaps intentionally broad, utterly miscapitalized and seemingly vandalous attempt at clutter. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:04, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. I grow increasingly baffled as to why EJBanks devotes so much time to creating and sporadically populating categories when fellow Wikipedians turn right around and undo every single thing he has edited. This category is incorrectly capitalized. Category is unclear. What is "national" reality television? What kind of participants? Doczilla 10:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Comment - very similar edits to User:BatmanFan who was eventually banned as a vandal account. CovenantD 10:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Historical events in cryptography

Category:Historical events in cryptography to Category:History of cryptography

Category:Feminist artists

Category:Feminist artists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
On the talk page a rename to Category:Feminists in the arts was suggested. I'm not sure this is necessary, but I'd be good with that.--T. Anthony 00:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Vague and not likely to be used with restraint. Name causes confusion between visual arts, other high arts and entertainment. Most of the categories mentioned above should be deleted as well. Twittenham 01:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Too vague and an appeal for POV. At best "militant feminist artists" could be considered,and even then...Circeus 02:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep The category is very useful in my opinion. However, I agree that "feminists in the arts" would be a better name for the category given some of the people included. If Misplaced Pages does not already have an article on Feminist art, it definitely needs one. I once went to a seminar on feminist art. I will start an article as soon as I have time. Andrea Parton 06:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete and listify. Do not categorize by opinion, which changes anyway. A list can be properly annotated with sources confirming when each person identified him/herself as a feminist. Doczilla 10:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
The following discussion is an archived debate regarding the category or categories above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was speedy delete under CSD G7 Circeus 02:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Lists of fictional characters on HBO television series

Category:Lists of fictional characters on HBO television series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I created this category pretty much by mistake, and it has never been used. I was looking at a character list and one of the categories didn't quite seem to fit so creating this seemed, at the time, to be a good idea. Since then months have gone by and this category has never been used. It is really too specific to be worth making a list out of.JeffStickney 19:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Rabbits as pets

Rename from Category:Rabbits as pets to Category:Pet rabbits

Alien

rename as Alien (film series)--Boxnon 12:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

The benefit is removing the possible confusion of The Day the Earth Stood Still with Aliens. --Bejnar 05:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename per nom. Other series have involved Aliens. Some comic series have involved the Alien xenomorphs. (Does this even need a category in the first place? The title links them all anyway.) Doczilla 10:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Shopping malls in Saskatchewan

Category:Shopping malls in Saskatchewan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I depopulated this category by merging all articles to Saskatoon per WP:LOCAL (yes, all the malls in Saskatchewan that have articles happen to be in Saskatoon). —Quarl 2006-12-30 08:50Z

Category:Scouting organizations and associations in Sweden

Category:Scouting organizations and associations in Sweden (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category:Scouting organizations and associations by country

Category:Scouting organizations and associations by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category:Scouting organizations and associations in Scandinavia

Category:Scouting organizations and associations in Scandinavia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category:Facilities of the United States Air Force tree

Category:Defunct United States Air Force bases to Category:Closed facilities of the United States Air Force
Category:United States Air Force bases slated for closure to Category:Facilities of the United States Air Force slated for closure
Category:United States Air Force bases slated for realignment to Category:Facilities of the United States Air Force slated for realignment

Category:Turkey's Waterfalls

Category:Turkey's Waterfalls into Category:Waterfalls of Turkey

Category:Chinese universities

Category:Chinese universities to Category:Universities in the People's Republic of China
Category:Chinese universities to Category:Universities in mainland China

*Rename, this category covers the PRC (and is described as "Universities in the People's Republic of China"). Note that Category:Universities and colleges in the Republic of China already exists to cover the other China. Timrollpickering 03:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC) Change nom per User:Instantnood. Timrollpickering 11:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Absolute oppose a category titled Mainland China. The naming scheme has been to have the PRC named category as top-level and any administrative division (provinces, the ARs, the SARS, the municipalities, etc) with their own subcats. Mainland China is not an administrative division, it's a biased political term used to divide some parts of the country from the rest. (viewing history), the original nomination is correct. XX in/of the PRC. SchmuckyTheCat 16:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

KLF

rename as infopage name.WebAsset 03:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Abercrombie & Fitch models

Delete, we've done models by company before. See June 9th discussion. -- ProveIt 03:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • STRONG KEEP If this category has been made before and deleted but recreated by other poeple that means theres an interest in it and that is precedent for keeping it according to wikipedia policy. A&F models are very notable there are only about 7 of them a year and they ARE NOT CATELOGUE MODELES, A&F doesnt have a cateologue, it did for like 5 years and that was it. How would i listify it if it were deleted? well it doesnt matter if its trash media or not and whether you consider CNN or SF Gate to be trash its media and makes it notable.qrc2006/email 23:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Trivia. Twittenham 01:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete trivia/overcategorization. This kind of thing is why Cindy Crawford once had over a hundred categories for her one article. Categorizing people by every individual job they ever had is impractical. Doczilla 10:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Articles referenced by the press

Category:Articles referenced by the press to Category:Pages referenced by the press

Category:University of Detroit alumni

Rename to Category:University of Detroit Mercy alumni, to match University of Detroit Mercy. -- ProveIt 02:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Colleges and universities

  • Rename some or all to a consistent name form, currently there's a mixture of "colleges", "universities", "colleges and universities" and "universities and colleges". Note that "college" has multiple meanings around the world, not always country specific. I've nominated all the non-national ones so that a full consensus can be sought. (Adding the national ones would make this list nearly four times longer! Also there are country specific criteria to handle there.) Timrollpickering 01:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Looking through all the categories, "Universities and colleges" appears to be the most common form (even more so when looking at the "XXX in Country" ones), so I'd recommend renaming all the ones not yet in this form to this name form, except where the category is shown to be university or college specific or where it's using an official title. Timrollpickering 01:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • (Note to closing admin. I know how long a nomination like this takes to put on the Working page for the bots, so please drop me a message when closing and I'll produce the list for you. Timrollpickering 01:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC) )
  • Oppose blanket change. In the United States colleges and universities are largely the same thing, but in most other countries most colleges are emphatically and officially not universities. Craig.Scott 03:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment "Universities and colleges" was adopted as a term for transnational articles and categories precisely because of this difference in terminology. Virtually all of the categories that don't already use "universities and colleges"/"colleges and universities" are transnational. I opted not to list the individual country categories because of this (although these are a bit of a mess as well - some are either underpopulated or are using "universities and colleges" in the name when only containing universities). But for the ones transcending countries there needs to be consistency, at the very least in the name ordering. Timrollpickering 03:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support for the reasons given. If there are any that should not be renamed, simply strike the entry. I looked over the list and did not see any obvious ones that should not be here. Vegaswikian 06:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support. Many of the categories are ambiguous or confusing as they stand. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename all to College and University / Colleges and Universities standard, if for no other reason than alphabetical order. - jc37 11:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose above. A simple alphabetical standard will become a huge obstacle to navigability. Breaking these universities and colleges country by country is fine. One more point: with all due respect, I don't see any reason to categorise universities and colleges by religiosity in this century. - Aditya Kabir 11:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    "A simple alphabetical standard will become a huge obstacle to navigability." - Please explain/clarify? - jc37 13:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    Clarification: How do you propose to find particular universities from a category that features thousands of them? You'd have to know the particular names then. If that holds than the very idea of having categories becomes redundant. The longer and over burdened lists are already getting a lot of attention. - Aditya Kabir 19:19, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    I think that either I'm misunderstanding you, or that you're misunderstanding the nom, or me. As far as I know, there is no request to merge any of these, just rename. And what I meant by "alphabetical" was to have "College" before "University" as the naming convention for each category name. Hope that clarifies. - jc37 21:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    Misunderstanding I was. Apologize I do. - Aditya Kabir 03:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support - even in the U.S., there is a difference between colleges (usually 4-year institutions that grant bachelors degrees with a limited subject range) and universities (usually institutions that can grant masters and doctorates in a variety of majors). However, "Institutions of higher learning" is definitely too cumbersome a category, and splitting the category into "Colleges" and "Universities" would confuse most (if not all) editors trying to get things straight. Oakland Community College (2-year), Jamestown State College (4-year), Minot State University (8+ year ), whatever - I think renaming the categories to to "Universities and colleges" is definitely a step in the right direction. NDCompuGeek 16:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Revision - I meant to say renaming categories to "Universities and colleges of X" or "Colleges and universities of X" ("Colleges and universities affiliated with Christians", "Colleges and universities affiliated with Mormonism", "Colleges and universities of North Dakota", etc. Therefore my support would be for a case-by-case and not a blanket change.... late night last night, sorry.... NDCompuGeek 22:37, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose all Some at least of these are better as they are, so this is the wrong approach. Twittenham 01:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)