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*The above user has no idea what he is talking about. Number one, I did not create "tens of terrorism categories." I created seven categories. Terrorism in Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Central Asia, and China. This is per the preexisting Terrorism in country categories that exist for Pakistan (]), Russia (]), India (]), and many others, none of which I created. The Kazakh Government banned the KWP and GW as 'terrorist organizations operating in Kazakhstan' last year. I never chanegd the categories names, and I reverted Baristarim's edits to two pages one time each. It is not POV, these are internationally recognized terrorist organizations. If you have a problem with them being called terrorist organizations then I suggest you take it up on the article talkpages. This is obviously not POV or OR since, if you actually look at ], I have sourced the Supreme Court's recognition of them as terrorist organizations. ] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC) *The above user has no idea what he is talking about. Number one, I did not create "tens of terrorism categories." I created seven categories. Terrorism in Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Central Asia, and China. This is per the preexisting Terrorism in country categories that exist for Pakistan (]), Russia (]), India (]), and many others, none of which I created. The Kazakh Government banned the KWP and GW as 'terrorist organizations operating in Kazakhstan' last year. I never chanegd the categories names, and I reverted Baristarim's edits to two pages one time each. It is not POV, these are internationally recognized terrorist organizations. If you have a problem with them being called terrorist organizations then I suggest you take it up on the article talkpages. This is obviously not POV or OR since, if you actually look at ], I have sourced the Supreme Court's recognition of them as terrorist organizations. ] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:This user then warned me about violating ], after one reversion. User seems unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages's basic policies. ] 02:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC) :This user then warned me about violating ], after one reversion. User seems unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages's basic policies. ] 02:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::Focus on content. I know what 3RR is and I gave you a warning only because I had the feeling that you would go all the way to three reverts from your tone. You did your second revert only a couple of minutes after the first one and the warning. That's all. I have no problem with any organization being labelled terrorist, that's not the problem. This is the TfD for the template, not the RfC for one of the groups. See Misplaced Pages words to avoid-terrorism. Saying "X is a terrorist group" is not encyclopedic, the correct format is "X is on the U.S. Department of State's "Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations" list." You are also including categories to groups unrelated to Kazakhstan. "Argument from authority" (such as the Supreme court of Kazakhstan) doesn't change Misplaced Pages rules. It can be mentioned as "X has been listed as a terrorist organization by Y". It doesn't warrant "X is a terrorist organization". And other articles are of no concern either, this TfD is only about this template. This template breaks every guideline that concerns it. ] 02:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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Horrible template. The user who created this created tens of terrorism categories and included many unrelated groups, changed its name, moved it back again, added even Kurdistan Workers Party, the Grey Wolves etc. Then he added "Category:Terrorism in Kazakhstan" to those articles and . Also see WP:Words to avoid#Terrorist.2C terrorism. Not only is this violated everywhere in the template, but it has POV, original research, non-verifiability written all over it. You name it, this template has got it. Baristarim 02:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

  • The above user has no idea what he is talking about. Number one, I did not create "tens of terrorism categories." I created seven categories. Terrorism in Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Central Asia, and China. This is per the preexisting Terrorism in country categories that exist for Pakistan (Category:Terrorism in Pakistan), Russia (Category:Terrorism in Russia), India (Category:Terrorism in India), and many others, none of which I created. The Kazakh Government banned the KWP and GW as 'terrorist organizations operating in Kazakhstan' last year. I never chanegd the categories names, and I reverted Baristarim's edits to two pages one time each. It is not POV, these are internationally recognized terrorist organizations. If you have a problem with them being called terrorist organizations then I suggest you take it up on the article talkpages. This is obviously not POV or OR since, if you actually look at Terrorism in Kazakhstan, I have sourced the Supreme Court's recognition of them as terrorist organizations. KazakhPol 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
This user then warned me about violating WP:3RR, after one reversion. User seems unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages's basic policies. KazakhPol 02:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Focus on content. I know what 3RR is and I gave you a warning only because I had the feeling that you would go all the way to three reverts from your tone. You did your second revert only a couple of minutes after the first one and the warning. That's all. I have no problem with any organization being labelled terrorist, that's not the problem. This is the TfD for the template, not the RfC for one of the groups. See Misplaced Pages words to avoid-terrorism. Saying "X is a terrorist group" is not encyclopedic, the correct format is "X is on the U.S. Department of State's "Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations" list." You are also including categories to groups unrelated to Kazakhstan. "Argument from authority" (such as the Supreme court of Kazakhstan) doesn't change Misplaced Pages rules. It can be mentioned as "X has been listed as a terrorist organization by Y". It doesn't warrant "X is a terrorist organization". And other articles are of no concern either, this TfD is only about this template. This template breaks every guideline that concerns it. Baristarim 02:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)