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Revision as of 16:48, 9 January 2007 editPiotrus (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Event coordinators, Extended confirmed users, File movers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers286,198 editsm moved Talk:Kraków Grosh to Talk:Kraków grosh← Previous edit Revision as of 23:44, 9 January 2007 edit undoMatthead (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Rollbackers21,271 edits Piotr, stop promoting your OR term - American Numismatic Society lists it as Krakau GroschenNext edit →
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Please note this is English, not German, Misplaced Pages. (not even used in German webspace!), . If we want an even more popular name, consider , used also by .--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 15:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC) Please note this is English, not German, Misplaced Pages. (not even used in German webspace!), . If we want an even more popular name, consider , used also by .--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 15:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Piotrus, you are in a hole which you have created yourself by into wikipedia, and thus the internet, as the Google hits are mirrors of your Original Research. Contratulations for this success, courtesy of wikipedia - but stop digging now! Polish wikipedia has an article ] that produces Google hits in Polish, which are utter meaningless for English wikipedia. The proper German name is with 15 hits like , but this not relevant either. Britannica does not know your invented term. It may cite the Polish term in italics once, but it does not elaborate on the coin itself. As written on your talk page, which you have chosen to ignore, ]'s curatorial database of coins does not know your invented term. It lists some grosz, mainly from the 20th century, not the 14th century coin in question, which is clearly refered to as "Krakau Groschen" in 61 instances:

*Record contains: '''grosh No records in the ANS database''' match your search
*Record contains: grosze Search returned 2 records
*Record contains: grosssi Search returned 5 records
*Record contains: grossus Search returned 13 records
*Record contains: groszy Search returned 20 records
*Record contains: grosch Search returned 15 records (truncated, not singular of Groschen)
*Record contains: grossi Search returned 44 records
*Record contains: grosz Search returned 81 records
*Record contains: groat Search returned 330 records
*Record contains: groschen Search returned 2908 records

*Record contains: '''kraków No records in the ANS database match your search'''
*Record contains: krakowski No records in the ANS database match your search
*Record contains: cracov No records in the ANS database match your search.
*Record contains: cracovienses No records in the ANS database match your search
*Record contains: cracoviensis No records in the ANS database match your search
*Record contains: krakow Search returned 9 records.
*Record contains: cracow Search returned 12 records
*Record contains: krakau Search returned 61 records
*Record contains: '''krakau Record contains: groschen Search returned 61 records'''

Piotrus, stop beating the dead horse you spawned to push your Polish POV, and move/change the article back to the name that is used by English experts, which is "Krakau Groschen" (database returns results in lower case). This name may be similar, but it is not identical to the German name, which hopefully may appease ]. --&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;&nbsp;]&nbsp; &nbsp; 23:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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If it was introduced in the reign of Casimir III, why does the Latin text refer to "KAZIMIRVS PRIMUS"? -- Securiger 09:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


Regarding the move to "Krakau Groschen", see Talk:Prague grosh/Talk:Prager Groschen for evidence for this name in English. -- Matthead      O       11:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Please note this is English, not German, Misplaced Pages. 1 Google hit for Krakau Groschen (not even used in German webspace!), 217 for Kraków Grosh. If we want an even more popular name, consider 917 hits for 'grosz krakowski...', used also by Britannica.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  15:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Piotrus, you are in a hole which you have created yourself by introducing your original research term into wikipedia, and thus the internet, as the Google hits are mirrors of your Original Research. Contratulations for this success, courtesy of wikipedia - but stop digging now! Polish wikipedia has an article pl:Grosz krakowski that produces Google hits in Polish, which are utter meaningless for English wikipedia. The proper German name is "Krakauer Groschen" with 15 hits like moneypedia, but this not relevant either. Britannica does not know your invented term. It may cite the Polish term in italics once, but it does not elaborate on the coin itself. As written on your talk page, which you have chosen to ignore, American Numismatic Society's curatorial database of coins does not know your invented term. It lists some grosz, mainly from the 20th century, not the 14th century coin in question, which is clearly refered to as "Krakau Groschen" in 61 instances:

  • Record contains: grosh No records in the ANS database match your search
  • Record contains: grosze Search returned 2 records
  • Record contains: grosssi Search returned 5 records
  • Record contains: grossus Search returned 13 records
  • Record contains: groszy Search returned 20 records
  • Record contains: grosch Search returned 15 records (truncated, not singular of Groschen)
  • Record contains: grossi Search returned 44 records
  • Record contains: grosz Search returned 81 records
  • Record contains: groat Search returned 330 records
  • Record contains: groschen Search returned 2908 records
  • Record contains: kraków No records in the ANS database match your search
  • Record contains: krakowski No records in the ANS database match your search
  • Record contains: cracov No records in the ANS database match your search.
  • Record contains: cracovienses No records in the ANS database match your search
  • Record contains: cracoviensis No records in the ANS database match your search
  • Record contains: krakow Search returned 9 records.
  • Record contains: cracow Search returned 12 records
  • Record contains: krakau Search returned 61 records
  • Record contains: krakau Record contains: groschen Search returned 61 records

Piotrus, stop beating the dead horse you spawned to push your Polish POV, and move/change the article back to the name that is used by English experts, which is "Krakau Groschen" (database returns results in lower case). This name may be similar, but it is not identical to the German name, which hopefully may appease Anti-German sentiment. -- Matthead      O       23:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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