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== Hello == ==Io Saturnalia!==
Okay not a 100% sure this is how you leave a message on someone's page but here goes: Actually, it would be a lot more interesting if you gave a detailed explanation ''how'' Turkey has been spending X millions of dollars of lobbying, recall of ambassadors, attempting to get any mention of Armenians expunged from academic conferences and museums, and many more things.


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My Apple dictionary lists it as ''action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property.'' Is Misplaced Pages not public property of sorts? Did I believe that you are deliberately trying to ''destroy'' the quality of the article? Yes. In my mind, it qualified as vandalism. Now that you have actually mentioned recall of ambassadors, Armenians expunged from academic conferences and museums, I have changed my opinion a little bit. I think a detailed log of what the Turkish foreign ministry does/did would be something very interesting to add.
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== nomination ==
Also, unrelated, I remember switching the Misplaced Pages article on ''Swarthmore'' to ''Slutmore'' when I was rejected. Now that's vandalism. Still, it was very cathartic. ] (]) 18:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


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I have nominated ] - again - please take a look and criticize at will. Here: ] ] (]) 23:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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There was no consensus on the change to a primary topic for the title "pearls before swine" at ]. Please correct and retarget ] to the disambiguation page. I've cleaned up other parts of your move. -- ] (]) 15:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
*I count at least two in favor and only you opposed, so I would call that a rough consensus. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 15:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
*:Please reread the discussion. There was only one expressed support. And please leave the contentious closes to admins. -- ] (]) 19:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Your addition to World War II Talk ==
== Belarus ==


Hello there
{failed verification|word "un-free" does not appear in source, cannot confirm that results of opposition parties was the reason for criticism}},
- you wrote.
the word "un-free" indeed does not appear in source, but first two pages contain similar information.
1. un-free - looks as a synonym to sentences such as " Universal principles and constitutionally guaranteed rights of expression, association and
assembly were seriously challenged, calling into question the Belarusian authorities’ willingness to
respect the concept of political competition on a basis of equal treatment", etc. through the report.
2. Further, about opposition parties - from report "
The marginalization of political parties in the election process was also reflected in the administration of the elections in a manner that sought to actively exclude candidates representing a diversity of interests. While pro-government parties were barely visible and did not put forward candidates in significant
numbers, opposition parties were undermined by the arbitrary non-registration of prospective candidates,
and at times by groundless de-registrations, thereby diminishing the voters’ choice.
3. Since the article is locked at the moment, please, consider replacing your comment or rephrasing on you own.
Best, ] (]) 01:12, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
* ] Thanks for the clarification. If "un free" is not a quote, it should not be in quote marks; if the real complaint is that the election is ''unfair'' rather than that it gives good/bad results to a certain political party—that should be made clear. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 01:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


Please note that The World War II Talk page "'''is''' ] '''for general discussion of the article's subject."''' it is not a place to discuss editors' opinions on new books about WWII. If you have a suggestion for a specific addition to the article please provide it with appropriate sources. ] (]) 11:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Double quotation marks can also be used sometimes to indicate that a word is special in some way, so called scare quotes, which are quotation marks put around a word to show that the writer doesn't buy into the meaning. For example: Women achieved “equality” when they were granted the right to vote in 1920.
Best, ] (]) 15:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


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==Nice work with ]==
::You are right that I was overzealous in reverting your contribution to the talk page. I apologise for this. However, if you start a Talk topic called "Interesting new book" and then ask people to comment on a summary of this book you shouldn't be surprised if someone thinks you are inviting other editors to enter into a general debate about this book. It would have been better to start a topic called something like: "Estimates of Civilian Deaths" and then propose a change to the info box based on cited page numbers of this book. Also the question you posed is already canvassed in the article so it appeared to me that you hadn't even read the article. Nevertheless I should have answered you question on your Talk page or on the article Talk page as I have now done. Again I apologise for not taking your question seriously. I hope you have a great new year and that I wake up less cranky than I was. ] (]) 22:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Image deletion - Picture of Frances Gertrude McGill ==
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Hello Buidhe -- I hope your new year is off to a good start! I wanted to ask your advice about a recent image deletion on WikiCommons. You gave me a very helpful image review for my ] last month, in which you said the main portrait image of McGill (and other remaining images) had adequate licensing. However, an editor apparently nominated the portrait image for deletion on Dec. 24th , and it has since been removed. Is there any way to argue for its recovery, or is it a lost cause? Thanks, ] (]) 15:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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Dear {{u|Buidhe}}. Happy New Year! I do not know you but I can see you have kindly listed yourself as admin who is willing to deal with harassment. Could you please have a look at and and see whether there is a pattern of harassment, denial of harassment and mocking the harassed one from any particular user? I am an involved editor, and I need an uninvolved admin to make an independent assessment, please. Many thanks. Regards ] (]) 19:22, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Armatura}}, I am not an admin, I cannot help you with this, I'm afraid. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 22:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

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== Macclesfield ==

Hi, I saw you just did the move for ] but can I ask if you can revert it? I am sorry for an oversight on my part, I've only just realised that the page was actually hijacked as it was originally for an Aussie rules club but the editor removed what was there and replaced it. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.5em 0.5em 0.6em;"> ''']''' (])</span> 09:02, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
* ''']''' Now done. Please make sure that the redirects are going to the right place. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 09:04, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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I'd like to be able to add File:Price Raid (cropped).jpg to ], since a non-map image has been requested in the ACR. It's obviously PD (produced in 1865 and the artist died in 1914), but the Commons image page currently lacks a PD US template, and I'm not sure what the best one to use is. Would the PD-US-expired one work? (I'm not sure if the production of the painting/sketch counts as publishing, or if I need to try to track it down in a pre-1926 book). Or can something be PD in the US specifically because the producer of it has been dead for enough years? ] <sub> ]</sub> 02:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
*]: I think the current licensing is OK. ] notes that unpublished works with a "Known author with a known date of death 70 years after the death of author." It was also probably publicly displayed at some point which would count as publication, and therefore PD due to time since publication. But I'm not as picky as Nikkimaria when it's obvious that the work is out of copyright. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 03:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
** Thanks for taking a look. I'll be adding it. ] <sub> ]</sub> 04:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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== admiralty ==

I think you've jumped the gun there with the move and the updating. Looking at the number and type of articles pointing to Admiralty, the British entity seems the primary topic. ] (]) 12:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
*] I found a large number of pages using formulations like <nowiki>"British ]", "] ]", "]"</nowiki> and worse. If the clarification is necessary, it's probably not the primary topic. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 12:55, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
:that didn't come up on the talkpage. and doesn't sound a good way to establish primary topic. ] (]) 13:00, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
::In situations like those Buidhe quotes above British is an adjective, not part of the name. I think the close was precipitate given both the lack of evidence and the lack of participation. ] (]) 16:28, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
:::I concur the notifications were not of the required standard, the failure to realise the move might be controversial was inappropriate and the execution has been of the move and follow up has been poor. These are not the standards and example I would have expected of a person with administrator/sysop privileges. If this was not such a high impact it would have been rolled back. ] (]) 08:18, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
:Buidhe, with all due respect, your statement makes it sound more like a supervote than a neutral closure. In closing, it's really not your place to decide what is and is not a primary topic. It's merely to assess the opinions expressed by other editors, and to leave a discussion open long enough to get a reasonable number of contributions. This clearly did not have anywhere near enough. -- ] (]) 13:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
*Strongly disagree with the accusations of improper close. No admin is a mind-reader and we can't expect them to magically know what will be controversial, especially since the old title was quite irregular (using a common word for a single country's government department) and only three people participated. If Naval and United Kingdom Wikiprojects aren't aware that these discussions are happening, we have a deeper problem than one administrator. BTW, Buidhe, you tagged the close as nac and I'm confused. ] (]) 08:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
**"only three people participated". Precisely. Therefore it clearly should have been relisted to garner further opinions, especially given it was over the New Year period when many of us are doing things other than looking at Misplaced Pages. -- ] (]) 13:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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You have a nasty habit of edit warring. If you make a bold edit, and are reverted, do not edit war. What it is about ] and ] that you don't understand. Please be warned, that I will show precisely zero tolerance for your recidivist behavior. ] (]) 15:56, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
*] BRD explicitly states that you have to give a reason for undoing an edit that explains why you think the previous version is better. You have yet to do so with regard to the Citizenship article. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 16:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
:: Is it not clear to you that I think your edit is not an improvement? That should be clear enough, and that is enough reason to revert. Now you must discuss and not edit war. ] (]) 16:18, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
::: I probably should apologize. Which I do hereby. I should have seen that your edit was an improvement. Which does not mean I agree with you regarding the behavioral issue, but that just became moot. ] (]) 16:41, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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== Deportation of the Crimean Tatars ==

It seems like some one is trying to say its a genocide but the sources say its a cultural genocide in put on this?.] (]) 02:35, 10 January 2021 (UTC)https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars&action=history The crime did happen that is fact.
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== Turks in Germany dispute ==

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== RE Talk:Deportation of the Crimean Tatars ==

Your comment showing how "the word 'genocide' is that it has become a value-laden term" is unfortunately very true and that just because something is not called ''genocide'', it does not mean it was any less tragic or awful. On the other hand, calling something a ''genocide'' just because one cherrypick sources saying it was one, with no clear academic sources explayining what the academic consensus is, just dilutes it. Also, did no one notice that , they used ] when it "was founded as an anti-communist propaganda source in 1949 by the National Committee for a Free Europe"? And I do not see how this source stating three countries recognized it as ''genocide'' the be-all and end-all, certainly not to state it in the very first sentence as a genocide; and as you correctly noted, ''cultural genocide'' is not the same thing as ''genocide''. I write you also because they referred to Alexander Statiev as essentially a genocide denialist (used in a clearly pejorative way, as the two comments from both users show , not as a legitimate scholar arguing it was not a ''genocide'') for in the peer-reviewed '']''. Unless I am missing something, it is very scary that one can act like there is consensus among experts something was a ''genocide'' (the same way the ], ] and other undisputed events as ''genocide'' among experts) and then accuse both users and scholars to be "genocide denialists." The onus is on them to provide it represents the consensus of scholars rather than cherrypicking sources supporting either view and then stating either as fact or as academic consensus. It should be very easy to prove, if true.

The same user also strawmanned me . I do not see how one can read and falsely imply I posted "a typical revisionist rant with ridiculous claims like liberal philosopher John Locke being just as bad as Lenin and Stalin (who personally ordered extrajudicial killing of nearly a million of people during Great Purge), that dictator Augusto Pinochet was a liberal, that mass killings by Communist states are not a fact and other things like that." Are Davies, Fitzpatrick, Getty, Wheatcroft ''et al.'' Stalinist apologists? I also never stated that "liberal philosopher John Locke '''being just as bad as Lenin and Stalin'''" (I believe I am just consistent in opposing capitalist, Nazi, Soviet and any other group or nation's crimes while they support the equivalency between Communism and Nazism, whcih incidentally is "a typical revisionist rant with ridiculous claims" going back to Nolte) and I clearly stated that killings under Communist regimes indeed happened and are a fact but the attempt of some authors to lump them together as we do in the controversial ] (the less said, the better){{refn|I still wish you could do a legitimate draft of Victims of Communism as rewrite of the article.|group=nb}} is a concept while they implied and falsely accused me of being a denialist or "revisionist."

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Sorry for writing you this but I really respect you as a Wikipedian and trust your neutral judgement. So is this just my impression or were their comments correct? I do not think I never implied what they think I did; I also stated right from the start "his is just a slippery and a ''reductio ad absurdum'' just to show ... how slippery slope and ''reductio ad absurdum'' your comment and proposal was in the first place." I thought Communist-related articles were the big problem but I think these about genocide and mass killings are too and cherrypicked rather than reflect the consensus of academics and experts, or their lack thereof. This would not be a big problem if our policies and guidelines were actually followed and respected ''and'' RfC ''et al.'' would be based on the strength of arguments backed by academic consensus (or lack thereof) and reliable sources (not cherrypicked ones). They have not only become a vote (the exact thing they should not be) but they have become partisan votes rather than neutral arguments backed by academic consensus and literature, something that you have shown to actually follow. Seriously, is this just me? ] (]) 05:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
:] Unfortunately, there are some topics where certain individuals hold strong, preconceived viewpoints that aren't amenable to change based on what reliable sources say. There's not much you can do about it unfortunately. Similar issue at the ] article where there is cherrypicking and biased presentation intimating that there is a consensus that this event was a genocide that inspired the Holocaust (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 17:27, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
:I've actually had considerable success with RfC rather than fruitless discussions with a couple editors, if you are thoughtful about how you lay it out you can often draw in uninvolved editors who will see that your version is better-founded. But I'm not sure that would be helpful in this case. (] &#183; ]) ''']''' 17:30, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

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Inspired by your excellent article on Turkey, I've destubbed the article ]. If you get the chance to give it a look over at some point, I'd be grateful! I am certainly not an expert on the subject. —'']'' (]) 22:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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Please note that The World War II Talk page "is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." it is not a place to discuss editors' opinions on new books about WWII. If you have a suggestion for a specific addition to the article please provide it with appropriate sources. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 11:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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