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"It erupted into a full-scale mutiny that included 70,000 Africans from Carthage's oppressed dependent territories, bringing supplies and finance." The latter clause is a fragment. Suggest changing to "It erupted into a full-scale mutiny that included 70,000 Africans from Carthage's oppressed dependent territories, who brought supplies and finance." --] (]) 08:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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* ''']''' by the ] in the ] of Colombia leaves more than a hundred people dead. | |||
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The term "incitement of insurrection" should not be wikilinked to ] unless there RSs can show this is the prevailing legal interpretation of the impeachment charge. Otherwise the link should be changed to ]. ] (]) 20:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:A few preliminary sources: | |||
:*''BBC'': "The House of Representatives accused Mr Trump of encouraging violence with his false claims of election fraud." | |||
:*''Washington Post'': "Thus, the House said, Trump violated the 14th Amendment by inciting violence against the government." The same article contrasts the charge against Trump with potential sedition/seditious conspiracy charges against some of the rioters. | |||
:So far I haven't found anything to support the sedition interpretation. | |||
:Another alternative is to link to each term independently: "] of ]". ] (]) 20:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I have replaced it with a link just to insurrection. I didn't think incitement really needed linking, as that's a fairly standard English word and we don't want link bloat, but if others disagree we can reconsider. — ] (]) 06:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:*The phrase "seditious acts" is in the article of impeachment itself. The word sedition is defined as "incitement to rebellion." Why are we splitting hairs here? ''<small>]</small>'' 13:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
The number killed in Catatumbo is erroneous. The figure of 100 comes from but that is reporting "across three Colombian departments -- from the remote Amazon jungle in the south to the mountainous northeastern border with Venezuela". The breakdown seems to be 80 in the north and 20 in the south so 80+20=100. But these numbers seem to be rough estimates because these regions are quite wild. | |||
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:Our article doesn't mention attacks outside of the Catatumbo region. ] (]) 13:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: The lead of the article is inaccurate as it misrepresents the sources. It also doesn't explain who was attacked and why. This is not a quality article. ]🐉(]) 17:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* Looking for the latest news on this, I find that the explains it as a feud between drug mafias over a lost stash. The lead of the article says nothing about drugs or the narco-cartel nature of the conflict. It's just a naïve "OMG, some people have been killed" and it still hasn't got the number right. ]🐉(]) 11:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* There probably should be some mention of the hotel name in the hotel blurb if we are naming the hotel via caption. Its clear going from blurb to image that that's the hotel, but in reverse (looking at image, trying to go back) leaves it a bit in the air to require deduction, even if our usual practice is to use an image for the first blurb. I recognize that the hotel name and ski resort name are not the same and that complicates matters. ] (]) 13:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:I don't agree actually. It's common practice at ITN to refer to a pictured thing by its specific name in the picture caption, even where that name is not used directly in the blurb. And given that (a) there is only one hotel-related blurb in the set, and (b) it clearly says ''(pictured)'' after "ski resort hotel", I see no need to change anything. The hotel itself isn't notable so it would be ] to include it in the blurb. — ] (]) 13:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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*] - appears to either be the same person as ] or the two have been conflated. --] (]) 07:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:I have put a note about this over at ], and that's a very good spot thank you. The two pages should certainly be merged, and perhaps have their ] too. In the mean time, I'm not sure we need to pull it from the main page, the new article is much longer and more comprehensive than the original, but I've asked the question anyway. — ] (]) 08:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*::That's a ''really'' good spot. Perhaps a new DYK criterion: check the article hasn't already been created under a different title!! ] <small>(])</small> 11:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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The "on this day" section states that the last signal was received from '']'' on January 23, 2010. This is not correct; the actual date was January 23, 2003. This is sourced in the article on the spacecraft. ] (]) 00:14, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{done}} Good catch, thanks 98.97. ] (]) 02:17, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**Replaced with ] (d.950) for now. Last used in 2018. --] (]) 06:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
The Hongwu Emperor ruled for three decades(1368-1398), not three centuries ] (]) 12:48, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
***Cool, could you explain (to me and our ]) ''how'' I verify the date of death using those two links? ] <small>(])</small> 08:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:The "three centuries" assertion refers to the ] as a whole, not to the Hongwu Emperor alone. — ] (]) 13:01, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
****The source states that Wang set himself and his family on fire (景崇已與家人自焚矣), on the day Guisi (癸巳) in the twelfth month (十二月) of the second year (二年) of the Qianyou (乾祐) era. A comparison with ] indicates that this fell during the reign of ] (隱帝) of the ] dynasty (後漢). Inputting these details into the calendar converter produces the output 西元950年1月15日, or 15 January 950. — <span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span> '''·''' '']'' '''·''' 14:02, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*****Could you add (if you haven't done so already) that highly complex interpretation route so the date can be verified by the other 99.9% of our readers please? ] <small>(])</small> 14:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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*] - the article says throughout that this may or may not have happened on either 15 or 16 January 1632, so it's probably not up to Misplaced Pages to proclaim that it's one of those two days. ] <small>(])</small> 08:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:Removed from OTD. — <span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span> '''·''' '']'' '''·''' 14:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*] - not seeing the date in the source provided and about a dozen citations needed. ] <small>(])</small> 10:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*] - too much of it unreferenced. ] <small>(])</small> 11:04, 14 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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*] - is "effectively" needed here? The article makes no such "distinction". ] <small>(])</small> 08:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*] - the source verifying this date is dead. These really need to be checked. ] <small>(])</small> 11:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*] - ironically given the subject above, the article states (a) the complicity allegedly included Belgium, the US '''and the UN''', so why they've been left out of the blurb I know not but (b) the assertions appear to have been made in a book which Misplaced Pages does not currently seem to consider notable. Genuine question: are these allegations main-page-worthy? ] <small>(])</small> 11:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
*] - the damage and number of homeless is unreferenced, a basic requirement. ] <small>(])</small> 12:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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*] - no need to link major geographical locations like "Paris". ] <small>(])</small> 08:38, 15 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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- A series of attacks by the National Liberation Army in the Catatumbo region of Colombia leaves more than a hundred people dead.
The number killed in Catatumbo is erroneous. The figure of 100 comes from France 24 but that is reporting "across three Colombian departments -- from the remote Amazon jungle in the south to the mountainous northeastern border with Venezuela". The breakdown seems to be 80 in the north and 20 in the south so 80+20=100. But these numbers seem to be rough estimates because these regions are quite wild. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Our article doesn't mention attacks outside of the Catatumbo region. Secretlondon (talk) 13:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- The lead of the article is inaccurate as it misrepresents the sources. It also doesn't explain who was attacked and why. This is not a quality article. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looking for the latest news on this, I find that the BBC explains it as a feud between drug mafias over a lost stash. The lead of the article says nothing about drugs or the narco-cartel nature of the conflict. It's just a naïve "OMG, some people have been killed" and it still hasn't got the number right. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- There probably should be some mention of the hotel name in the hotel blurb if we are naming the hotel via caption. Its clear going from blurb to image that that's the hotel, but in reverse (looking at image, trying to go back) leaves it a bit in the air to require deduction, even if our usual practice is to use an image for the first blurb. I recognize that the hotel name and ski resort name are not the same and that complicates matters. Masem (t) 13:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't agree actually. It's common practice at ITN to refer to a pictured thing by its specific name in the picture caption, even where that name is not used directly in the blurb. And given that (a) there is only one hotel-related blurb in the set, and (b) it clearly says (pictured) after "ski resort hotel", I see no need to change anything. The hotel itself isn't notable so it would be WP:UNDUE to include it in the blurb. — Amakuru (talk) 13:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Done Good catch, thanks 98.97. Floquenbeam (talk) 02:17, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
The Hongwu Emperor ruled for three decades(1368-1398), not three centuries RaschenTechner (talk) 12:48, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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