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| Don't bother leaving a message, I'm done was the straw that broke the camels back, a moment of clarity - I feel I've been wasting my time here. Now it could be the "keepers" are right and it's not a cruft-filled games guide but I just don't see it - that means I'm too far out of whack with the rest of the community for carry on, this is a waste of my time. Let me just quote - ''WikiProjects on fictional universes are more apt to defend articles than WikiProjects on aspects of the real one. I would not expect Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Science to defend a biography of a non-notable scientist just because it was on a scienctist and therefore related to "their" subject. But I've never seen a fiction WikiProject say "this is too much detail" or "this is effectively original research".'' | Don't bother leaving a message, I'm done was the straw that broke the camels back, a moment of clarity - I feel I've been wasting my time here. Now it could be the "keepers" are right and it's not a cruft-filled games guide but I just don't see it - that means I'm too far out of whack with the rest of the community for carry on, this is a waste of my time. Let me just quote - ''WikiProjects on fictional universes are more apt to defend articles than WikiProjects on aspects of the real one. I would not expect Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Science to defend a biography of a non-notable scientist just because it was on a scienctist and therefore related to "their" subject. But I've never seen a fiction WikiProject say "this is too much detail" or "this is effectively original research".'' | ||
| I really think there are two wikipedias developing here - there is the factual wikipedia that deals with living people, arts, the sciences and the humanities. I think by and large this side of wikipedia (let's call it factopedia) works well, people discuss and argue but they generally try and move forward in an objective manner. Then there is the fictional side (let's call it cruftopedia) - a ugly cruft filled side - where no article is too long to extend, no subject too minor to have it's own separate article, no game item too small to have pages of lists created for it. I actually spent most of my time editing cruftopedia but it's just depressing for someone who wants to develop wikipedia as a well-sourced general reader's encylopedia, which has strong to the point articles. | I really think there are two wikipedias developing here - there is the factual wikipedia that deals with living people, arts, the sciences and the humanities. I think by and large this side of wikipedia (let's call it factopedia) works well, people discuss and argue but they generally try and move forward in an objective manner. Then there is the fictional side (let's call it cruftopedia) - a ugly cruft filled side - where no article is too long to extend, no subject too minor to have it's own separate article, no game item too small to have pages of lists created for it. I actually spent most of my time editing cruftopedia but it's just depressing for someone who wants to develop wikipedia as a well-sourced general reader's encylopedia, which has strong, to the point, articles. | ||
| Take the crufopedia article I've linked above - the standard lines have alright appeared "it's notable" - yeah every pair of booties a fictional character wore is notable and suitable for a general reader's encylopedia. The main weapon of cruftopedia is the ''this shouldn't be afd'd this should be cleaned up'' - in theory with many articles (not with that one) they are right, '''in practice they are wrong'''. I've followed a number of AFDs and clean-up notices on cruftopedia and the pattern is always the same "Clean-up, we'll clean it up!" and of course it never happens, no clean-up is attempted. So of course when a tool does not work, you have to escalate to the next tool, by either proding an article or AFDing. I think most factopedia editors already know before they AFD an article that the special interest groups on cruftopedia will never allow their precious cruft to be removed - it has to grow and grow and grow. However with AFD, there is at least a chance they will be forced into a clean-up of an article. | Take the crufopedia article I've linked above - the standard lines have alright appeared "it's notable" - yeah every pair of booties a fictional character wore is notable and suitable for a general reader's encylopedia. The main weapon of cruftopedia is the ''this shouldn't be afd'd this should be cleaned up'' - in theory with many articles (not with that one) they are right, '''in practice they are wrong'''. I've followed a number of AFDs and clean-up notices on cruftopedia and the pattern is always the same "Clean-up, we'll clean it up!" and of course it never happens, no clean-up is attempted. So of course when a tool does not work, you have to escalate to the next tool, by either proding an article or AFDing. I think most factopedia editors already know before they AFD an article that the special interest groups on cruftopedia will never allow their precious cruft to be removed - it has to grow and grow and grow. However with AFD, there is at least a chance they will be forced into a clean-up of an article. | ||
| So I wish you all the best - hell I might just get a new identity and become a full-time cruftapedian myself - I might start with ''list of costumes that the wasp worn once in the avengers during the 1969-1980 period'' - something with a lot of value to the general reader. --] 10:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC) | So I wish you all the best - hell I might just get a new identity and become a full-time cruftapedian myself - I might start with ''list of costumes that the wasp worn once in the avengers during the 1969-1980 period'' - something with a lot of value to the general reader. --] 10:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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| Thanks. Have to say, they wilfully misquoted me in places, but they did so in a nice way, so I don't really mind. :) ] (Have a nice day!) 16:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Don't bother leaving a message, I'm done this was the straw that broke the camels back, a moment of clarity - I feel I've been wasting my time here. Now it could be the "keepers" are right and it's not a cruft-filled games guide but I just don't see it - that means I'm too far out of whack with the rest of the community for carry on, this is a waste of my time. Let me just quote someone - WikiProjects on fictional universes are more apt to defend articles than WikiProjects on aspects of the real one. I would not expect Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Science to defend a biography of a non-notable scientist just because it was on a scienctist and therefore related to "their" subject. But I've never seen a fiction WikiProject say "this is too much detail" or "this is effectively original research".
I really think there are two wikipedias developing here - there is the factual wikipedia that deals with living people, arts, the sciences and the humanities. I think by and large this side of wikipedia (let's call it factopedia) works well, people discuss and argue but they generally try and move forward in an objective manner. Then there is the fictional side (let's call it cruftopedia) - a ugly cruft filled side - where no article is too long to extend, no subject too minor to have it's own separate article, no game item too small to have pages of lists created for it. I actually spent most of my time editing cruftopedia but it's just depressing for someone who wants to develop wikipedia as a well-sourced general reader's encylopedia, which has strong, to the point, articles.
Take the crufopedia article I've linked above - the standard lines have alright appeared "it's notable" - yeah every pair of booties a fictional character wore is notable and suitable for a general reader's encylopedia. The main weapon of cruftopedia is the this shouldn't be afd'd this should be cleaned up - in theory with many articles (not with that one) they are right, in practice they are wrong. I've followed a number of AFDs and clean-up notices on cruftopedia and the pattern is always the same "Clean-up, we'll clean it up!" and of course it never happens, no clean-up is attempted. So of course when a tool does not work, you have to escalate to the next tool, by either proding an article or AFDing. I think most factopedia editors already know before they AFD an article that the special interest groups on cruftopedia will never allow their precious cruft to be removed - it has to grow and grow and grow. However with AFD, there is at least a chance they will be forced into a clean-up of an article.
So I wish you all the best - hell I might just get a new identity and become a full-time cruftapedian myself - I might start with list of costumes that the wasp worn once in the avengers during the 1969-1980 period - something with a lot of value to the general reader. --Larry laptop 10:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter
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Thanks. Have to say, they wilfully misquoted me in places, but they did so in a nice way, so I don't really mind. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 16:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
The WikiProject Biography Newsletter: Issue II - April 2007
The April 2007 issue of the WikiProject Biography newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you BetacommandBot 18:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Name Change
I noticed that you changed your name to Larry laptop. How do you change your name without having to delete your account? Magic? How do I change my name? Please help. Thanks. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 04:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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I'm looking for folks to help convert Respect Threads to wiki formatting on Project Fanboy: WikiFans. Respect Threads, showcase scans of feats performed by comic book characters and have gained an audience on several comic book message boards. A few other wiki editors and myself are trying to convert them from the unprofessional look of a bunch of posts on a message board to the formatting common with WikiMedia wiki's. To view an example of what we're doing, here is a link to Respect Silver Surfer.
I was wondering if you might have time to contribute your comic book knowledge and/or scans of comic book characters performing feats, and help us out with our Respect Articles project?Millennium Cowboy (talk) 02:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
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