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== check this out ==
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http://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/9th-UNCSGN-Docs/E-CONF-98-6-Add1.pdf <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Politics of Khuzestan ==


== Request for mediation ==
You've been selectively removing and, transferring content on ], ] claiming that you're doing all this due "the result of the AfD". That's a false claim, "The result was Rename to Politics of Khuzestan and keep for now". . This is gaming the system, please revert all of your edits until a consensus has been reached on the discussion pages of related articles. --] 07:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


A ] has been filed with the ] that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at ], and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to ]. '''There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.''' -- ''']''' 14:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
:The result of the AfD was to keep the article, but to sort out POV issues, which I am doing. The proposer of the AfD argued that content should be reallocated to other articles that are more relevant and this was not contested by me or anyone else voting either to delete or to keep. In fact, you argued to merge the article with other articles! Nothing has been removed from Misplaced Pages, just reorganised and shortened. Changing the name of the article from ] to ] obviously requires a different editorial approach, with some sections removed and some added.--] 11:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::If the content you are removing from ] is contentious (which it obviously is), I would recommend not transferring it into the ] until the material has been discussed. While it needs excising from the politics article, a merge should be a considered blending of content, and not all content may be suitable. That said, bold changes can provoke a discussion, so provided it doesn't break out into an edit war I don't see anything wrong with the occasional bold merge. ]] 12:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


'':Note to self: mediation collapsed.--] 01:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)''
:::Yomangani: I am trying to do one thing at a time; I don't have time to spend hours and hours on this. I have transferred content and once I've finished my edits to ], I'll move onto the other articles and ensure that there is a blending of content that ensures balance. There is nothing to stop someone putting a POV tag on the ] article in the mean time. I'd just ask for a bit of patience and when I've finished, no doubt there will be editors who will begin disputing!--] 12:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I understand, my suggestion was meant to be helpful in avoiding those disputes in the meantime: you can always remove the information without transferring it over, as it will be available in the history for you transfer at a later date. Anyway, I'm not pushing you to work on it - I'd like to think of myself as disinterested party (otherwise I wouldn't have closed the AfD). Cheers, ]] 12:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::: Ahwaz, please revert yourself on ]. You're simply transferring the POV ethnic content of ] into ] without allowing other editors to discuss the issue. This is gaming the system, please revert all of your edits on ] until a consensus has been reached on the discussion page. --] 12:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Why not just put a POV tag on the page, discuss the content and make changes to what has been added?--] 12:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::: That's what you should be doing, your actions are not in sync with the result of the AfD. The consensus of the editors was not to move the POV bits of ] into other articles, creating a bigger problem. The renaming is not just a cosmetic procedure, please revert yourself on ]. --] 13:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


==Racism by country==
==Mediation==
Hello, a ] has been filed given the deadlock at ]. You previously offered comment on it, but were not involved in any edit warring. As such, I'm inviting you to add yourself to the RFM if you feel that you're part of the dispute. You can do so ]. If you feel you're not involved in the dispute, please disregard this message and thanks for your earlier opinion. ] 21:46, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


''Note to self: mediation collapsed.--] 01:42, 11 July 2007 (UTC)''
Ok, first things first, please tell me what happened. Include as many other people as possible that I can also talk to in order to get a comprehensive understanding of the situation. ] 20:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


== Request for Mediation ==
: I noticed that you say "the great majority of Iranian Arabs, are descendants of the Aryans or the non-semitic indigenous peoples living on the Iranian plateau before the Aryans arrived" on ]. I would be interested to know if you have any sources to support this, as it is an issue that has generated considerable heated debate on the ] article.--] 00:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
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::That article is by Zereshk, it was going to be deleted so I put it on my userpage. ] 00:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
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==Mediation II== == Thanks ==
Thanks for the information. Do you mind if I ask more questions later if needed? I am going to ask all parties now for their views. ] 01:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


Hi, thank you for the barnstar. Also, I don't know how familiar you are with the topic (I'm certainly not), but there is this one article that needs work, ]. Feel free to check it out if you want. Thanks again. ] 19:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
== Thank you... ==


== Using personal websites of wikipedians as sources. ==
Salam Ahwaz, how are you doing? thanks a lot for reverting my user page. ] 13:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
:I totally understand how you feel. The same thing happens to ], ], etc. If you have the time, you can open an arbitration (or whatever you call it) and pull as many neutral users as possible. I have put the articles you told me on my watchlist. Your info seems to get removed instantly by iranian nationlist. BTW, as time goes by, everybody will figure out that Wikiepdia contains a lot of rubish, specially in politic related articles. You shoud really think of making a website and posting your articles there, that way you will get the credit and nobody will revert it. ] 13:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


According to ]: ''Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources.
== Inshaneee ==
(This text was ] and has been removed by an administrator. Please do not reinsert it). <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 19:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by a well-known, professional researcher (scholarly or non-scholarly) in a relevant field. These may be acceptable so long as their work has been previously published by reliable third-party publications. However, exercise caution: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else is likely to have done so.
:This was censored on this talk page: --] 19:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP''
::Thanks for the support, this issue is being discused here <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 19:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->


I think the fact that a wikipedian controls the website makes the site even less acceptable as a source. While we could imagine a personal site of a well-known and established researcher might be a some sort of a source, the ell-known and established researcher himself should be able to produce the referenced sources for his works.
== Deletion on ] ==


I remember arbcom about a using a personal site of a wikipedian who was a subject of an article] 01:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you did delete my message. You don't think it's against the rules? Well, it's impolite. However, I assumed you did it by accident. I linked to the diff that shows you deleting my post. I accidently deleted my own post once, then responded to it, then became confused about what I was talking about. ] 00:56, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
==Racism by Country==
While I ''understand'' your sentiment, I'll just note this:
{{quote|When you want to hang a dishonest man, the easiest way to do it is just to give him some rope|WilyD}}
It would be ''easier'', and ''more pleasent'' just to hand out ropes and see whose feet stay on the ground. ]] 13:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
*I completely understand - but being an administrator is not ''supposed'' to make you higher than a regular editor - it just means trusted to behave yourself and not delete the main page or anything. Anyways, I'd like to get past the block - and I'm not particularly worried about the objections raised, which are clearly spurious. Ah well ... sometimes it's nice to work on less stressful articles. ]] 14:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


== Note to admins == == Balanced Views ==


I appreciate your balanced view on the topic of the ] as well. There is no need to have an argument for the sake of an argument. Actually, I've learned a lot from the debate and realised that some of my own views weren't constructive. --] 17:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
This is just to inform you that I have been reverting vandalism to ] and ] by ] and ]. They are suddenly reverting all my recent edits on these articles after I voiced an opinion on ], which ] disagreed with. They have never had any previous involvement with these articles. Their reversions include fact tags, wikilink updates and legitimate edits to ensure NPOV. As such, they are vandalising these articles and consequently my reversions do not count as a breach of 3RR.--] 13:27, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:I'm here for the long haul! See you online! --] 18:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Is it wrong for me to group some of the discussions on the talk page of the Persian Gulf page together. A certain person always leaves long verbouse comments (you know who) and it detracts from the concensus we're trying to reach.--] 13:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I've cleared up some of the talk page, without deleting things so as to avoid being called a revisionist.--] 13:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


==Hello==
== ] ==
Thanks for your contributions to the Iran-Bangladesh relations article.] 21:02, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yea that would be nice, but I cant find much information.] 21:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


==Racism in Iran==
Please be cautious of your edits at ] as I see you have made several reverts to the article recently. If you persist with excessive reversions and disruptive editing, you may be blocked either for ] or simply disruption. Discuss matters on ] rather than reverting the work of others on sight. -- ''']''' 16:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I did recently notice the page was unlocked (since it seemed like nobody cared anymore) - but I haven't touched it yet. My historical plan was just to go alphabetically by country down the list, ensuring everyone (except maybe the ]) had an entry, but I haven't had time yet. Feel free to add any material you feel is appropriate. ]] 14:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
*Okay, that's fair enough. I'm not sure when that'll be - keep your eye on it. ]] 20:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


:I accept what you are saying, but I think that Persian nationalism is preventing the legitimate inclusion of the commonly accepted alternative name for the Gulf - the Arabian Gulf - in the ] article (in fact, in some Arab states it is illegal to refer to the Gulf as the Persian Gulf). Please take a look at the talk page.


Thanks :) --] 12:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:Also, after stating my point on ], ] and ] appeared to track back on all my recent contributions - namely to ] and ] - and reverted any changes I made, including updated wikilinks, fact tags and NPOV adjustments (nothing substantial, just small edits here and there). It is notable that they have not ever edited these article before, so the only reason for reverting was to stalk and vandalise my work. This is disruptive, but is the common experience Misplaced Pages users have when confronted by nationalists.--] 16:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


==My Opinion==
::That attitude does not help one bit. Stop the excessive reverting and stop throwing accusations of nationalism. Your above statement embodies exactly why the ] article has faced numerous issues. -- ''']''' 16:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure, I think it might be the Karun. ] 11:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


==Reply==
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I dont know, do you think that it may be some type of vandalism? Maybe the user didnt see those and was only looking for a reference section.] 15:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
==Regarding reversions made on ] ] to ]==
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You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the ]. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.</div><!-- Template:3RR5 --> The duration of the is 24 hours. ] 16:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)</div>


:No, not that I know of, but I put one in anyways.] 15:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Ahwaz, I really like your version of the article better than the other and removing tags is a bad style, but 3RR is a 3RR. Please note that you accumulated quite a long block list, including at least 4 blocks for 3RR violations, so the next 3RR block can be significantly longer. Next time please find a better way to settle the difference than revert warring. You could e.g. request a page protection and start an article RfC or another ] ] 16:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
== Arab Wiki project ==


Are you interested ... Sign up then!
I have changed the duration of the block to 72h because you also violated 3RR on the ] and were very close to 3RR on ]. Please note that the Web site of the Al-Ahwaz group is not a ] source for anything other than the organization itself, please source the articles to something else ] 17:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
--] 03:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


==Hamedan==
:OK, I thought that if the reversions were against vandalism - which I think this is, as it is a case of stalking by two editors who disagreed with what I wrote on ] and blind reverted anything I wrote recently - then they didn't count towards 3RR. I don't actually know how to start an RfC. (The ] issue has been raging for months , with Iranian Wikipedians insisting that no mention of Arabian Gulf be included, even when it is sourced to Encyclopaedia Brittanica - I've only recently added my opinion)
Just to make things clear, Hamedan of Iran has nothing to do with the Qahtani tribes?
In Arab books they pronounce it as (Hamithan) or (Hamedhan). Hamadan is clearly the Arabic pronounciation of the Qahtani tribes and should not be merged with Hamedan.--] 00:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


:The fact is that a cabal of editors is imposing its POV on Iran-related articles. They have a particular hatred of me because I spell Ahwaz in the Arabic way and not the Persian way . It sounds ridiculous, but some people get very worked up about spellings. I've been marked out on a number of occasions as an attacker or anti-Persian .


* This is the Hamadan talk page, please add to it --] 04:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:At one point, I had a message on my talk page to "fuck your dirty Arab mother's cunt" in Farsi. I responded in kind in English, but retracted my own profanity within half an hour - yet still subsequently got blocked. That was my first block (admins later agreed to wipe my user pages so that the profanity was wiped from the history files). Yet the anon user making the profanity was not even warned! I've also had to endure repeated racist statements that I am a lizard eater (a common Iranian insult against Arabs) and a liar .


==Just wanted to say==
:Admins have failed to deal with over a year of anti-Arab racism, the gang-like nature of a certain group of editors (I have been banned for incivility in the past for calling them a gang, but that's what they are), the stalking and the inflexibility of some editors. They refused to allow me to transfer content from ] to ] after an AfD, yet they refuse to respond to my calls for a debate or even attempts by one user at mediation (Mardavich has been among those who was disputing content, but failing to respond to mediation attempts).


I thought your comments at the proposed Arab WikiProject page were really insightful and useful. I'm looking forward to working with you on developing articles in dire need of improvement, expansion and balance. Il'iliqa. ] 13:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:So what am I to do? I am sorry, but I don't have a lot of confidence in a system that allows this kind of behaviour. This gang of editors refuses to talk, ignores mediation attempts and even reverts even the smallest edits I have made. I don't really know what to do, so I guess I will continue to be blocked! I give up on the processes.--] 18:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


Just wanted to say your idea toward Iran is biased and does not represent Iranian. The fake Iranian merit you have received is by an Iraqi user who is not qualified to give you such a reward. Be happy praising yourself. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:43, 27 July 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==Arab article==
::Hey ahwaz, I know it seems to you like vandalism, but you got to stay cool, and 3RR is 3RR. ] 20:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
As I did read this article, it contains a lot of unusual information, propagandistic views and weasel words in the article ]. I therefore would like to get a group with me who are able to rewrite this article in a best way to get best results. Anyone who want to join our team add your name below in the Arab Talk page. Please note that after the team has gathered, we will place "under-progress" tag. ] 14:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


==The newest WikiProject==
:::It is not simply vandalism, it is aggressive bullying by a certain organised group. You know the type. It is absolute nonsense that Arab states don't use the term Arabian Gulf. The Arab League itself uses it . Every Arab state uses it and many non-Arabs use it. They are enforcing their viewpoint - which excludes all mention that the Gulf is known by any name other than the one they favour. If Arab states use the term Arabian Gulf, then it should be included. The real reason for exclusion is underlying prejudice, as I have experienced so many times on Misplaced Pages and detailed above.
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:::As for the reversions on ], they are plain stupid. The nationalists are simply reverting a whole load of necessary and non-controversial changes (updated wikilinks, rewording for the sake of NPOV and tags requesting sources) that I made because I made them. They won't debate, they won't consider any reason or logic. They want to drive off all Arab Wikipedians. And admins never, ever stop it. Look at the abuse and harassment I've had from these nationalists and how indifferent the admins are to it. The 3RR law is nonsense because these people can pile up their 3RRs and impose their POV and drive off all they oppose.--] 21:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Ask for page protection whenever this happened again. You can ask it from Alex himself. ] 08:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


A few features that you might find helpful:
:::::Thank you, ]. I will also open RfCs on these pages as soon as my block expires, because it is obvious that I am not allowed to edit a single word on these articles, no matter how trivial. I would appreciate your input as I believe you are both knowledgeable about Iran - you actually live in Tehran - and you are reasonable and strive for NPOV.--] 10:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


* Our ''']''' points to most of the useful pages within the project.
:::::: Your conspiracy theories are nothing but rationalizations for your total disregard for Misplaced Pages policies. Users do try to reason with you, but you have ignored every attempt. on ], you were repeatdly told that ahwaz.org.uk, the website of a fringe political group, does not conform with the policy of ], a plea which fell on deaf ears. Instead of respecting the Misplaced Pages policies, you kept reverting and reverting. I hope you do open RfCs on these pages, your disruptive behavior is well documented and your lack of respect for Misplaced Pages policies is available for everyone to see. --] 18:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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::::::: Mardavich: But I did not use that source, I used the Daily Telegraph that quoted the British Ahwazi Friendship Society. You objected to this quotation, but it nevertheless conformed with Misplaced Pages policies because it was from the Daily Telegraph. As for your other acts of vandalism, you removed legitimate wikilinks and fact tags purely because I put them there and for no other reason. You are the one you constantly reverted and you were unwilling to discuss either on this article or on others you have objected to, such as ] and ] - you have ignored one appeal for mediation on these. Your intention is to mass revert anything I write. That is disruptive behaviour. If you really think I have no place on Misplaced Pages, why not get your friends to launch an arbitration case against me?--] 18:27, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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:::::::: You did use that source. You were citing from ahwaz.org.uk. That's a clear violation of ]. But instead of familiarizing yourself with Misplaced Pages policies, and respecting them, you keep acting like a victim, and making bad faith accusations and attacks. --] 19:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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==Hamadan==
::::::::: You are lying. You took out parts of the Daily Telegraph quote you did not like because it referenced the British Ahwazi Friendship Society. You left a paragraph that did not quote that group. The other quotation was from a Khuzestan newspaper which was cited in ahwaz.org.uk. Take a look. I challenge you to prove me wrong.--] 19:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry for not replying sooner, I was waiting on someone to reply to me onthis subject.
I looked at the references he had, the Europeans use the Arabic pronounciation, so he is right on that part. He wants to use the Arabized form.
:Also Keep in mind that Persia was heavily settled by the Arabs from 7th-10th century, so the names were Arabized including Hamadan, Arabic was the official language for 300years, the modern Farsi borrowed alot of Arabic words, so you can't blame Britannica for using "Hamadan".
I was thinking, maybe he will prefer to use a distinguished pronounciation (Hamedan), but its hard to change the Arabic name of the city because thats what the city became after the Arabs settled Persia.--] 06:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


:Yes of course it should fall under the scope of the WP Arab world since '''any''' article related to historical or modern-day Arab is automatically part of the WP Arab world. It is the same when ] which is in modern Iraq fall under the scope of WP Iran, despite the fact that no Persians left in modern Madain. Best regards--] 13:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::: This is . You're clearly using ahwaz.org.uk as a source, in violation of ]. --] 20:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


==WikiProject==
:::::::::: Sigh - I don't think you can read English properly - or you are a liar. Anyway, this is the part of the quotation from the Daily Telegraph you repeatedly deleted: "The British Ahwazi Friendship Society (BAFS), an advocacy group for Khuzestani Arabs in the UK, claims it will help Iran's Revolutionary Guards to influence the Shi'a areas of Iraq. A BAFS spokesman said: "Apart from being a serious human rights issue, any development that involves people being displaced by force obviously has a security element to it as they clearly do not want people being too near. The fact that they are deciding to put this huge complex right up against the border is significant. We think this is to enable them to train and send militias over the border." The original is here: Take a look at it. The only other reference to that group was a link to an article that quoted from the Hamsahyeha, which is now closed down. The article in Hamsahyeha exists because there is a photocopy of it here:
If you look at my original query, I made no mention of ]. I asked for some advice from this admin, who started the Arab Wikiproject, on whether these article should or should not be put under the project. I would still like an answer on this. If ] has a problem with this, then he only had to go to the ] and put his reasoning there instead of chasing me to this talk page and accusing me of POV pushing. It has only been a few days since he was put on parole by Arbcom.--] 16:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have to worry Ahwaz. After all, it is just a template we use at articles talk pages w/ the aim to locate them and enhance them. They are not categories. It doesn't deserve all this fuss. So no big deals. Thanks for letting me know. -- ] - <small>]</small> 17:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


:::::::::: You also deleted a whole load of updated wikilinks and fact tags on ], while stalking me and vandalising my contributions.--] 20:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC) Now we have settled the matter of what Wikiprojects are for, could I put the WPARAB template back on these talk pages?--] 17:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:The appropriate venue where to get the advice is at '''].''' Whatever they'd recommend you'd follow. -- ] - <small>]</small> 13:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::: By personally attacking me here, calling me a "liar" or telling me I can't can read English properly, you've proved why it's impossible for many editors to have any constructive interaction with you. It doesn't matter who or what ahwaz.org.uk was quoting, ahwaz.org.uk is not a reliable source, it's clear from your attempts at justification that you still haven't read ]. --] 20:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
==Attempts to reduce the Arabic language status==
:::::::::::But you are a liar, as well as a stalker and a bully. The fact is that you deleted a large part of a quotation from the Daily Telegraph, which does meet ]. And elsewhere you deleted my updates to wikilinks as well as fact tags. Try justifying that.--] 20:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
A user known for his/her Anti-Arab agenda made it his/her mission to claim that all Arabic dialects are independent languages, starting with Egyptian Arabic dialect.
:::::::::::: Yes, keep making personal attacks and accusations, you're only demonstrating your inability to conduct yourself in a civil manner. --] 21:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
'''Egyptian Arabic (Maṣrī مصري) is an Arabic dialect.'''
has to be clearly emphasized in the ] article
*The only language to branch out of Arabic is '''Maltese'''. Can you please help me organize these articles?.
Arabic dialect has to be clearly added in the infobox an openning sentence so it dont get confused as a language!--] 20:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


== Egyptian Arabic ==
::::::::::::: I think that if anyone looks at it objectively, they will see I am right. You deleted content that did meet ] (a quotation from the Daily Telegraph), deleted wikilinks and deleted fact tags that I inserted. You did it in articles you had never contributed to before. So the only reason you made these deletions was because you went through my recent contributions and reverted them because you disagreed with me on ]. Now you are trying to misrepresent me. You have made no effort to deal with my points because you have no defence for your behaviour. Take the matter to arbitration if you think I am being uncivil. Take it to an admin. Do what you want. I am confident that anyone would see what I am saying is truthful.--] 21:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::: And I can see you are up to the old trick of trying to claim that Arab scientists are Persian, with your reversion campaign on ], when . What is your problem with Arabs? Do you hate us?--] 21:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


I don't think that it matters if the article says "Egyptian Arabic" or "Egyptian Arabic dialect". To any normal person, the two mean the same thing. There are plenty of other areas on Misplaced Pages where those with an anti-Arab point of view are pushing their agenda. It is best to save your efforts for the worst examples, rather than get into a revert war over this.--] 09:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Please stop; your block does not mean you should continue your argument on your talk page. -- ''']''' 23:20, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


Amen my wise Ahwazi friend--] 16:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:So I should ignore Mardavich's harassment on my talk page? No. He comes to me with accusations and I reply to them. I have a right to reply. Mardavich should stop his stalking and bullying behaviour.--] 23:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


== You desrve this... == ==So we speak 22 languages?==
Can you please help Zerida (and her sock-puppets) understand that Egyptian Arabic is a dialect (because now she is claiming that its a language!), I think she is already taking it personal! (])I mean once they declare every dialect a Language I will have a beautiful resume with 22 languages on it, but as of now unfortunately the constituition of Egypt and every Arab nation only recognizes one Arabic language as the only Arabic language!--] 18:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


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An editor has asked for a ] of ]. There are question about the truthfulness of the article and whether such a territory exists. Since you contributed to the ] article, I am hoping that you would consider participating in the ] to shed some light on whether the Ahwaz territory in fact exists. -- ]]/] 17:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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==You are accused of having 3 sockpuppets==
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For your '''excellent''' and '''long-lasting''' contributions effort to articles related to the Arab ethnic minority in Iran, such as ], ], ], ], and many others. Keep up the good work, and stay coooool! ] 20:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Meganslaw&diff=166935224&oldid=165605190
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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Hisham_ibn_Oamr_Alharbi&diff=prev&oldid=166933818


someone put it on administration board but nobody acted I don't think
Sorry, it took that long. I hope this barnstar will encourage you to continue editing. BTW, correct the barnstar if there are any grammatical mistakes :). And always be smart and stay cool ] 20:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Blockitis.2Ffalse_accusations
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:It is nonsense, of course. There has been no check user and there is no correlation between my edits and these users. It is just yet more bad administration.--] 23:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I think from Ministry of Internal Affairs, that could be considered as the most reliable source in this case, might help you. But unfortunately it is not a multilingual website. ] 17:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
::I concur. I don't believe you had anything to do with those accounts. I've retagged them as socks of Neutralizer. ] 01:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think a reliable or official statistical source could be found. Maybe it's better to focus on each person and link him to his political party. Also you can't find an ] for this! ] 18:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
:: from Majlis website contains full results. Also might be helpful. ] 19:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


== Thank you ! ==
== 3RR warning on ] ==


Thank you very much for standing up for the ethnic minorities of Iran and taking a stand against the Pan-Iranians and for breaking up Persian-chauvinism propaganda.
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly{{{{{subst|}}}#if:Politics of Khuzestan|, as you are doing in ]}}. If you continue, you may be ] from editing Misplaced Pages. Note that the ] prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for ], even if they do not technically violate the ]. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.<!-- Template:3RR --> -- ''']''' 22:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
:I've gone ahead and reblocked you. 3 reverts on one page less than 36 hours after a block for edit warring is unacceptable. The last block was 72 hours, so this one is a week. ]·] 07:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


I have read the article, which by far still expresses the Fars chauvinists’ point of view, regarding the ethnic minorities in Iran. What seems disturbing to me is that the individuals, who are propagating the current Iranian regime's point of view in each and every article related to Iran, do not acknowledge Amnesty International or UN as valid and neutral sources. They keep posting Pan-Iranian propaganda and disguise it as coming from valid sources. The so called valid sources (e.g. disputed individual like ABCs Alexis Debate) actually recycle the Iranian state's biased propaganda, which in turn is picked up and utilized by the Fars chauvinists to emphasize their own view. This seems quite self-contradictory. The same individuals claim to be opponents of the current regime, but at the same they serve the regime's purpose. It makes me question their true cause. Furthermore, they apparently lack in-depth knowledge about the various ethnic groups in Iran and the conditions in which they live in. More specifically they claim that the Balochs supported Iran in their war against Iraq, but on the contrary throughout the history the Balochs have resisted all subsequent Persian/Iranian dynasties. Nevertheless, the Balochs have never identified themselves with the ruling Persian elite. They have always regarded the Persians as suppressors.
{{unblock reviewed|1=original unblock reason|decline=No reason given for unblocking. -- ] 17:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)}}


The Pan-Iranians also make false allegations about the Persian language being the primary and the preferred language in Iran. Well, I know of many Balochs who don't even understand nor speak Persian. In a scientific viewpoint, their mother tongue, which is Balochi, classifies as the primary language and Persian as their secondary, not the other way round. Furthermore, I don’t know of any university in Iran in which the Balochi language is taught.
|'''Reason for unblock request:''' I did '''not''' edit the article after I was warned by Tariqabjotu. I also note that I am not accused of breaking 3RR, just that I have three reverts. In fact, the other user editing the article had four reverts, but unlike me was not blocked after being warned. Check out the history. I have tried engaging with these people on talk pages , but they do not respond and add unsourced POV content to the articles - Iranian Arabs are "immigrants", etc. I accepted an offer of mediation, but other users refused to engage with this. I accept that I have broken rules at times, but when I am repeatedly blind reverted, ignored and at some points am faced with racial abuse ("lizard eater", for example) or being accused of being an "attacker" , a "liar" or "anti-Persian" , I loose my cool. Bear in mind that I have been blocked for a lot less than the crap thrown at me, but somehow the abuse is tolerated if it is directed against me. That's why I have asked for admin intervention on Iran-related articles. I don't expect my views to be enforced, just that due process is respected. But I have not seen any effort at resolving this. If the intention is to drive me off Misplaced Pages, then please take the appropriate procedure to examine a permanent block.


Anyway, I admire your patience. Keep up the good work.
''I have tried to put my reason in the template, but it doesn't seem to work.''


Thanks. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
{{unblock reviewed|1='''Note: admin did not see my reasons because I didn't know how to use the unblock template and put my reason after the template. Consequently, they did not see my reasons for the unblock request. I am now including the reasons below.''' I did '''not''' edit the article after I was warned by Tariqabjotu. I also note that I am not accused of breaking 3RR, just that I have three reverts. In fact, the other user editing the article had four reverts, but unlike me was not blocked after being warned. Check out the history. I have tried engaging with these people on talk pages , but they do not respond and add unsourced POV content to the articles - Iranian Arabs are "immigrants", etc. I accepted an offer of mediation, but other users refused to engage with this. I accept that I have broken rules at times, but when I am repeatedly blind reverted, ignored and at some points am faced with racial abuse ("lizard eater", for example) or being accused of being an "attacker" , a "liar" or "anti-Persian" , I loose my cool. Bear in mind that I have been blocked for a lot less than the crap thrown at me, but somehow the abuse is tolerated if it is directed against me. That's why I have asked for admin intervention on Iran-related articles. I don't expect my views to be enforced, just that due process is respected. But I have not seen any effort at resolving this. If the intention is to drive me off Misplaced Pages, then please take the appropriate procedure to examine a permanent block.|2=If you read ] the intent of the policy is to prevent edit warring, 3 reverts is not a god given right and you can indeed be blocked for less. Given your history of edit waring and your apparent continuation of the same within 36 hours of your previous block expiring, 1 week is fairly generous, many admins would have blocked for longer. If you have a dispute see ] for ideas (e.g. ] on the individual or article), edit waring is simply not tolerated no matter how provoked you feel. --] 19:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)}}


==AfD nomination of List of Iranian Arabs==
It's a shame that you admins take action against only one side in the "edit war". Why is that? I obeyed a warning, but was still subsequently blocked, yet the other user (who actually did violate 3RR) got off with nothing. The rules are total nonsense.--] 19:54, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
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Hey Ahwaz,


The article is discussed at ] until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
Do you edit in the Arabic wikipedia? ] 13:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Thank you.] (]) 20:57, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
:I think I might, although it takes me a while to type in Arabic. Are they friendly on Arabic wikipedia? The problem is that English-speakers rely on English Misplaced Pages for information which is often wrong or distorted. We need more Arabs editing English Misplaced Pages.
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== تحیاتی ==
::We are veeeery friendly there and we will help you in anyway. We are in short of people there. We have only about 22,490 articles, its a joke when you realize that we are 300 million people, while Danish Misplaced Pages has 55.339 articles with 5.5 million people. And since you are blocked now for 1 week, why not give it a shoot? Most arabs don't know the situation there in Ahwaz, you '''have''' to let them know! ] 14:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
سلام علیکم. ببخشید شما فقط در ویکی انگلیسی می نویسید؟؟آیا در ویکی فارسی هم تا کنون ویرایش داشته اید؟ ] (]) 09:59, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


تحیاتی اخی العزیز. نرحب بقدومک ان کنت راغب بالحضور بویکیبدیا الفارسیة و وایضاً نتشرف بالتعرف علیک.--<span style="font: 18px 'Andalus'">]</span> ]</span></span> ]</span></span> 10:14, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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You were just blocked for a week, but you continue to edit war at the exact same article, using an IP edit to revert, and calling other editors vandals, which is incivility. I'm not quite sure what to say, other than that you are very close to being blocked indefinitely if you don't improve your behavior. Your block is increased to a week this time. ]·] 10:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


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check this out

http://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/9th-UNCSGN-Docs/E-CONF-98-6-Add1.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.241.239.194 (talk) 02:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Request for mediation

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:Note to self: mediation collapsed.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 01:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Racism by country

Hello, a request for mediation has been filed given the deadlock at racism by country. You previously offered comment on it, but were not involved in any edit warring. As such, I'm inviting you to add yourself to the RFM if you feel that you're part of the dispute. You can do so here. If you feel you're not involved in the dispute, please disregard this message and thanks for your earlier opinion. WilyD 21:46, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Note to self: mediation collapsed.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 01:42, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks

Hi, thank you for the barnstar. Also, I don't know how familiar you are with the topic (I'm certainly not), but there is this one article that needs work, Women in Arab societies. Feel free to check it out if you want. Thanks again. The Behnam 19:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Using personal websites of wikipedians as sources.

According to WP:SPS: Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources.

Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by a well-known, professional researcher (scholarly or non-scholarly) in a relevant field. These may be acceptable so long as their work has been previously published by reliable third-party publications. However, exercise caution: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else is likely to have done so.

Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP

I think the fact that a wikipedian controls the website makes the site even less acceptable as a source. While we could imagine a personal site of a well-known and established researcher might be a some sort of a source, the ell-known and established researcher himself should be able to produce the referenced sources for his works.

I remember arbcom about a using a personal site of a wikipedian who was a subject of an articleAlex Bakharev 01:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Racism by Country

While I understand your sentiment, I'll just note this:

When you want to hang a dishonest man, the easiest way to do it is just to give him some rope

— WilyD

It would be easier, and more pleasent just to hand out ropes and see whose feet stay on the ground. WilyD 13:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

  • I completely understand - but being an administrator is not supposed to make you higher than a regular editor - it just means trusted to behave yourself and not delete the main page or anything. Anyways, I'd like to get past the block - and I'm not particularly worried about the objections raised, which are clearly spurious. Ah well ... sometimes it's nice to work on less stressful articles. WilyD 14:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Balanced Views

I appreciate your balanced view on the topic of the Persian Gulf as well. There is no need to have an argument for the sake of an argument. Actually, I've learned a lot from the debate and realised that some of my own views weren't constructive. --Persan en Japon 17:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm here for the long haul! See you online! --Persan en Japon 18:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Is it wrong for me to group some of the discussions on the talk page of the Persian Gulf page together. A certain person always leaves long verbouse comments (you know who) and it detracts from the concensus we're trying to reach.--Persan en Japon 13:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I've cleared up some of the talk page, without deleting things so as to avoid being called a revisionist.--Persan en Japon 13:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Thanks for your contributions to the Iran-Bangladesh relations article.Hajji Piruz 21:02, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Yea that would be nice, but I cant find much information.Hajji Piruz 21:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Racism in Iran

I did recently notice the page was unlocked (since it seemed like nobody cared anymore) - but I haven't touched it yet. My historical plan was just to go alphabetically by country down the list, ensuring everyone (except maybe the Pitcairn Islands) had an entry, but I haven't had time yet. Feel free to add any material you feel is appropriate. WilyD 14:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


Thanks :) --Aziz1005 12:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

My Opinion

I'm not sure, I think it might be the Karun. The Honorable Kermanshahi 11:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Reply

I dont know, do you think that it may be some type of vandalism? Maybe the user didnt see those and was only looking for a reference section.Hajji Piruz 15:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

No, not that I know of, but I put one in anyways.Hajji Piruz 15:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Arab Wiki project

Are you interested ... Sign up then! --Aziz1005 03:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Hamedan

Just to make things clear, Hamedan of Iran has nothing to do with the Qahtani tribes? In Arab books they pronounce it as (Hamithan) or (Hamedhan). Hamadan is clearly the Arabic pronounciation of the Qahtani tribes and should not be merged with Hamedan.--Skatewalk 00:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


Just wanted to say

I thought your comments at the proposed Arab WikiProject page were really insightful and useful. I'm looking forward to working with you on developing articles in dire need of improvement, expansion and balance. Il'iliqa. Tiamat 13:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to say your idea toward Iran is biased and does not represent Iranian. The fake Iranian merit you have received is by an Iraqi user who is not qualified to give you such a reward. Be happy praising yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.125.249.166 (talk) 19:43, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Arab article

As I did read this article, it contains a lot of unusual information, propagandistic views and weasel words in the article Arab. I therefore would like to get a group with me who are able to rewrite this article in a best way to get best results. Anyone who want to join our team add your name below in the Arab Talk page. Please note that after the team has gathered, we will place "under-progress" tag. Irqirq 14:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The newest WikiProject

Announcement

Hi, and welcome to the newly started Arab world WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Misplaced Pages's coverage of topics related to the Arab World.

The project birthday would be celebrated every August 24.

A few features that you might find helpful:

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  • We've developed a variety of guidelines for article structure and content, template use, categorization, and other issues that you may find useful. These guidelines can be subject of discussions at the project talkpage or simply WT:ARAB.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask User:FayssalF for the time being, or any experienced member of the project, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around!

Hamadan

I am sorry for not replying sooner, I was waiting on someone to reply to me onthis subject. I looked at the references he had, the Europeans use the Arabic pronounciation, so he is right on that part. He wants to use the Arabized form.

Also Keep in mind that Persia was heavily settled by the Arabs from 7th-10th century, so the names were Arabized including Hamadan, Arabic was the official language for 300years, the modern Farsi borrowed alot of Arabic words, so you can't blame Britannica for using "Hamadan".

I was thinking, maybe he will prefer to use a distinguished pronounciation (Hamedan), but its hard to change the Arabic name of the city because thats what the city became after the Arabs settled Persia.--Skatewalk 06:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes of course it should fall under the scope of the WP Arab world since any article related to historical or modern-day Arab is automatically part of the WP Arab world. It is the same when Ctesiphon/Al-Madain which is in modern Iraq fall under the scope of WP Iran, despite the fact that no Persians left in modern Madain. Best regards--Aziz1005 13:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject

If you look at my original query, I made no mention of AlexanderPar. I asked for some advice from this admin, who started the Arab Wikiproject, on whether these article should or should not be put under the project. I would still like an answer on this. If AlexanderPar has a problem with this, then he only had to go to the and put his reasoning there instead of chasing me to this talk page and accusing me of POV pushing. It has only been a few days since he was put on parole by Arbcom.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 16:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to worry Ahwaz. After all, it is just a template we use at articles talk pages w/ the aim to locate them and enhance them. They are not categories. It doesn't deserve all this fuss. So no big deals. Thanks for letting me know. -- FayssalF - 17:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Now we have settled the matter of what Wikiprojects are for, could I put the WPARAB template back on these talk pages?--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 17:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The appropriate venue where to get the advice is at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Council. Whatever they'd recommend you'd follow. -- FayssalF - 13:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Attempts to reduce the Arabic language status

A user known for his/her Anti-Arab agenda made it his/her mission to claim that all Arabic dialects are independent languages, starting with Egyptian Arabic dialect. Egyptian Arabic (Maṣrī مصري) is an Arabic dialect. has to be clearly emphasized in the Egyptian Arabic article

  • The only language to branch out of Arabic is Maltese. Can you please help me organize these articles?.

Arabic dialect has to be clearly added in the infobox an openning sentence so it dont get confused as a language!--Skatewalk 20:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Egyptian Arabic

I don't think that it matters if the article says "Egyptian Arabic" or "Egyptian Arabic dialect". To any normal person, the two mean the same thing. There are plenty of other areas on Misplaced Pages where those with an anti-Arab point of view are pushing their agenda. It is best to save your efforts for the worst examples, rather than get into a revert war over this.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 09:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Amen my wise Ahwazi friend--Skatewalk 16:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

So we speak 22 languages?

Can you please help Zerida (and her sock-puppets) understand that Egyptian Arabic is a dialect (because now she is claiming that its a language!), I think she is already taking it personal! (Egyptian Arabic)I mean once they declare every dialect a Language I will have a beautiful resume with 22 languages on it, but as of now unfortunately the constituition of Egypt and every Arab nation only recognizes one Arabic language as the only Arabic language!--Skatewalk 18:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Ahwaz territory

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ahwaz territory. There are question about the truthfulness of the article and whether such a territory exists. Since you contributed to the Ahvaz article, I am hoping that you would consider participating in the Ahwaz territory deletion review to shed some light on whether the Ahwaz territory in fact exists. -- Jreferee t/c 17:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

You are accused of having 3 sockpuppets

fyi http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Michael2314 http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Meganslaw&diff=166935224&oldid=165605190 http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Hisham_ibn_Oamr_Alharbi&diff=prev&oldid=166933818

someone put it on administration board but nobody acted I don't think

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Blockitis.2Ffalse_accusations Reayreu 22:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

It is nonsense, of course. There has been no check user and there is no correlation between my edits and these users. It is just yet more bad administration.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 23:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I concur. I don't believe you had anything to do with those accounts. I've retagged them as socks of Neutralizer. Sarah 01:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you !

Thank you very much for standing up for the ethnic minorities of Iran and taking a stand against the Pan-Iranians and for breaking up Persian-chauvinism propaganda.

I have read the article, which by far still expresses the Fars chauvinists’ point of view, regarding the ethnic minorities in Iran. What seems disturbing to me is that the individuals, who are propagating the current Iranian regime's point of view in each and every article related to Iran, do not acknowledge Amnesty International or UN as valid and neutral sources. They keep posting Pan-Iranian propaganda and disguise it as coming from valid sources. The so called valid sources (e.g. disputed individual like ABCs Alexis Debate) actually recycle the Iranian state's biased propaganda, which in turn is picked up and utilized by the Fars chauvinists to emphasize their own view. This seems quite self-contradictory. The same individuals claim to be opponents of the current regime, but at the same they serve the regime's purpose. It makes me question their true cause. Furthermore, they apparently lack in-depth knowledge about the various ethnic groups in Iran and the conditions in which they live in. More specifically they claim that the Balochs supported Iran in their war against Iraq, but on the contrary throughout the history the Balochs have resisted all subsequent Persian/Iranian dynasties. Nevertheless, the Balochs have never identified themselves with the ruling Persian elite. They have always regarded the Persians as suppressors.

The Pan-Iranians also make false allegations about the Persian language being the primary and the preferred language in Iran. Well, I know of many Balochs who don't even understand nor speak Persian. In a scientific viewpoint, their mother tongue, which is Balochi, classifies as the primary language and Persian as their secondary, not the other way round. Furthermore, I don’t know of any university in Iran in which the Balochi language is taught.

Anyway, I admire your patience. Keep up the good work.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morara (talk • contribs) 00:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of Iranian Arabs

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Nomination of 2005 Ahwazi unrest for deletion

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تحیاتی

سلام علیکم. ببخشید شما فقط در ویکی انگلیسی می نویسید؟؟آیا در ویکی فارسی هم تا کنون ویرایش داشته اید؟ قاسم منصور (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

تحیاتی اخی العزیز. نرحب بقدومک ان کنت راغب بالحضور بویکیبدیا الفارسیة و وایضاً نتشرف بالتعرف علیک.--عباس ☢ ✉ 10:14, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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Asian 10,000 Challenge invite

Hi. The Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Misplaced Pages:The 10,000 Challenge and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like South East Asia, Japan/China or India etc, much like Misplaced Pages:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Asian content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 200 articles in just three days. If you would like to see this happening for Asia, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Asia, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thank you. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 01:01, 20 October 2016 (UTC)