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{{refideas|1={{cite journal|author=Moynihan, Robert|date=January 31, 2017|title=Steve Bannon, In His Own Words |journal=InsideTheVatican.com|url=http://insidethevatican.com/news/newsflash/letter-6b-2017-steve-bannon-words?gclid=CPC_2vOOotICFRu1wAodCMcPgg|accessdate=February 21, 2017}}|2=http://www.indiewire.com/2016/11/stephen-k-bannon-indie-film-distribution-wellspring-breitbart-1201748020/}} |
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{{refideas|1={{cite journal|author=Moynihan, Robert|date=January 31, 2017|title=Steve Bannon, In His Own Words |journal=InsideTheVatican.com|url=http://insidethevatican.com/news/newsflash/letter-6b-2017-steve-bannon-words?gclid=CPC_2vOOotICFRu1wAodCMcPgg|accessdate=February 21, 2017}}|2=http://www.indiewire.com/2016/11/stephen-k-bannon-indie-film-distribution-wellspring-breitbart-1201748020/}} |
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== Ban from Twitter after call for beheadings == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2024 == |
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This section is puffery. CNN and NYT interjected "beheadings". This speech was picked up and promulgated as fact by news media and now by Misplaced Pages. NPR reported what Bannon actually said. |
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"I'd put the heads on pikes. Right. I'd put them at the two corners of the White House. As a warning to federal bureaucrats: Either get with the program or you're gone," he said in the now-deleted video previously posted on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube. However, it has been recirculated through other accounts. <ref>https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/932052602/twitter-permanently-suspends-steve-bannon-account-after-beheading-comments</ref> |
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The Independent has a video of the NPR quoted Bannon speech <ref>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/steven-bannon-behead-fauci-fbi-christophre-wray-trump-b1627108.html</ref> |
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Misplaced Pages article says: |
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Under the 'Connection to Jeffrey Epstein' it should include that he did release a trailer, for which there should be a link. This is the only footage of the 15 hours which has been released and is therefore important. Here is the link for the trailer: https://nypost.com/2021/10/19/jeffrey-epstein-told-steve-bannon-im-a-supporter-of-times-up/ ] (]) 20:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> NY Post is not a reliable source for U.S. politics. See ]. – ] (]) 22:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Political Prisoner == |
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During the November 5, 2020 edition of his webcast, Bannon called for the beheadings of Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious diseases expert, and FBI Director Christopher Wray. Bannon said that if it were up to him, after beheading Fauci and Wray, "I'd put the heads on pikes" and display them outside the White House "as a warning to bureaucrats" who dared oppose Trump. By the end of the day, Facebook and YouTube had deleted the video from their platforms, and Twitter had permanently banned his account. Mailchimp also disabled Bannon's email newsletter. The next day, Bannon was dropped by a lawyer who had been defending him against federal charges of fraud. |
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Bannon has self-identified as a ] . Should this be mentioned? |
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What is Misplaced Pages's policy to correct puffery? ] (]) 04:36, 4 June 2021 (UTC) |
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Trump had also previously self-identified as a political prisoner. ]. |
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== The New York Times == |
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:Lol, no. ] (]) 00:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
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This story from The New York Times is very informative: |
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* Very informative, first published Nov. 20, 2020 Updated Jan. 26, 2021 (think the update was to correct their misidentification of a photo). It certainly has an interesting spin toward lack of evidence to confirm the so-called whistleblower's account but without evidence to confirm the opposite; i.e., she had no smoking gun. There were clearly exaggerations (news sensationalism?) which are highly misleading and tend to discredit Yan as an expert but she is still a doctor, and she did work at one of the world's top virology labs, etc. The authors write, {{xt|The Chinese government often punishes critics by harassing their families. But when The Times reached Dr. Yan’s mother on her cellphone in October, she said that she had never been arrested and was desperate to connect with her daughter, whom she had not spoken to in months.}} Did they expect her mother to admit that the Chinese government was harassing them? Think about it a minute - let's say you're being watched and threatened that you would disappear if you dared say the wrong thing. Would you have told the Times' reporter that your family was being harassed? We already know about As for the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, there is that states, ''Hydroxychloroquine is effective, and consistently so when provided early, for COVID-19.'' I'm certainly not commenting to get Bannon off the hook for anything - he has earned his reputation on his own - but I prefer factual reporting to be objective, and void of spin. ] ] ] 16:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC) |
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** Hydroxychloroquine is widely recognized to be ineffective and potentially dangerous as a treatment for Covid-19. Please don't use Misplaced Pages as a platform for misleading cherry-picking or Covid-19-related misinformation. Separately, the ''New York Times'' is regarded as a reliable source by the Misplaced Pages community. If you disagree with that consensus, then that should be addressed via RfC at the ], rather than by trying to undermine or discredit it on individual article talkpages. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 20:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC) |
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***MastCell, are you saying that is from an unreliable journal? {{xt|New Microbes New Infect. 2020 Nov; 38: 100776. Published online 2020 Oct 5. doi: 10.1016/j.nmni.2020.100776}} And if so, why is it in Elsevier, and what about the sources they cited? ''New Microbes and New Infections'' - '''Editorial Board''': Editor-in-Chief: Professor Michel Drancourt, MD, PhD - Mediterranean University Hospital Institute for Infectious Diseases, Marseille, France; Microbiology, Infectious Diseases; Deputy Editor-in-Chief: Professor Pierre-Edouard Fournier, MD, PhD, Aix-Marseille University Mediterranean University Hospital Institute for Infectious Diseases VITROME, Marseille, France Intracellular bacteria; Coxiella burnetii; Rickettsia; Bartonella; diagnosis; molecular detection; genome sequencing; taxonomy. I will relent to your expertise regarding medical journals but that's as far as I'll go. ] ] ] 20:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC) |
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**** I'm saying that the scientific consensus is clear. As with many such topics, it is ''possible'' to cherry-pick papers that contradict the scientific consensus, but that's not a particularly useful or honest tactic. Further discussion probably belongs elsewhere. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 21:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC) |
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*****If you want to be critical of me for cherry-picking an Elsevier journal and the published systematic review, (which is not a paper or article), then so be it. I was not arguing the case about medicine or remedies for COVID, rather I was simply mentioning possibilities and other things to consider about what was stated in the article - that's what good editors and journalists do, or at least, used to do. I'm of the mind that ] ''are always provisional, susceptible to being overturned by some future experiment or observation. Scientists rarely proclaim an absolute truth or absolute certainty. Uncertainty is inevitable at the frontiers of knowledge.”'' ~ . Looking at the dates of the original NYTimes article, I wasn't certain if something new had possibly developed - new developments have been a pattern for COVID research - and I figured it was worth considering in this TP discussion. I hope editors never lose sight of that approach, and continue to question, explore, seek knowledge and keep turning-over those unturned rocks. ] ] ] 21:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC) |
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::I second Zaathras -] (]) 01:27, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Seinfeld residuals == |
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:::Typical right-wing behaviour, ]. --] (]) 12:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
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The source for the claim that Bannon receives residuals from Seinfeld is a New York Post article from 2017, which cites something Bannon himself said in an interview. Does that really warrant a bald statement of fact in the article? ] (]) 00:30, 28 June 2021 (UTC) |
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::::Misplaced Pages is a non political international encyclopaedia please refrain from American partisan discussion. If it's a fact people around the world might want to know what he says about himself. Whether he actually is one or not is a matter of opinion/debate so probably doesn't belong here or an opposing quote saying why he isn't would be a good way to add balance to the article. ] (]) 13:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:I don't think it does, {{u|John K}}. It's unnecessary detail, and not well-sourced. Our readers don't need to know the intricacies of Bannon & Co., much less his dealings in investment banking. I think the whole ''Business career'' section could be reduced substantially into a summary paragraph, maybe two. ] ] ] 00:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::I think it's something about due weight. There are people who say the earth is flat, and there is a page on that view. But it's not included in serious scientific pages I think. ] (]) 19:09, 18 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::Agreed, if its not getting ] then I dont think its that notable. In my opinion it should be removed. 23:11, 7 December 2021 (UTC)] (]) |
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== Add A Fact: "Bannon: Trump to prosecute Garland, Monaco, Smith" == |
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== I see dead people == |
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I found a fact that might belong in this article. See the quote below |
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"Bannon reportedly speaks often with Trump donor Sheldon Adelson, and has been alarmed at a push for a renewed Middle East peace process." |
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Steve Bannon, a Trump adviser said that a second Trump administration will prosecute Attorney General Merrick Garland, Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco and special counsel Jack Smith. |
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The fact comes from the following source: |
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: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/30/trump-doj-revenge-political-enemies-00178218 |
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Sheldon Adelson is as dead as a door handle. Can someone please update this with the appropriate tense? ] (]) 08:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC) |
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:Past tense is applied, accordingly. —] 14:53, 20 October 2021 (UTC) |
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This post was generated using the ] browser extension. |
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== What role did Bannon play in the 2016 election? == |
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] (]) 16:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC) |
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The section on 2016 should be renamed "Bad Stuff Bannon Said and People He Angered." Readers get no picture of what he did or his significance to the campaign. AECwriter 19:23, 15 November 2021 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== past tense correction == |
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"He reported to the low-level security Federal Correctional Institution, Danbury in Danbury, Connecticut on July 1, 2024, where he lives in a special veterans housing unit according to his federal prison consultant Sam Mangel." |
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I would like to add that this "man" is a pathological liar, a thief and scam artist, and a major player in the recent unsuccessful plot to overturn our democracy and subvert a legal election based on the will of the people of the United States. FUCK WHITE SUPREMACY, MISOGYNY, RACISM. BLACK AND WOMEN'S AND IMMIGRANT LIVES MATTER MOTHER FUCKERS. ] (]) 15:41, 24 January 2022 (UTC) |
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Should be changed to: |
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... 2024, where he lived in ... |
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lived past tense ] (]) 19:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 19:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC) |
I found a fact that might belong in this article. See the quote below
"He reported to the low-level security Federal Correctional Institution, Danbury in Danbury, Connecticut on July 1, 2024, where he lives in a special veterans housing unit according to his federal prison consultant Sam Mangel."
Should be changed to:
... 2024, where he lived in ...
lived past tense 75.142.254.3 (talk) 19:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)