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| == Riana's RfA == | |||
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| Hi there, the support vote was a joke. I know that I have to wait for her to accept and for the page to be listed at RfA, and even though I like her personally, I still think that it's my responsibility to read her answers and to more thoroughly review her contributions before choosing how to vote. Thanks for responding. --]] 07:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| It's kinda daunting... as in, if I reach 100, I have to be just that good :) I'm trying not to keep an eye on it too much, but then I'm scared someone will ask me something incredibly soul-searching and I won't see it, so I'm kinda fidgety right now. <span style="font-family:trebuchet ms">]_]</span> 11:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== LA to FA 2022 == | ||
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| Please note an RfA is ''not'' a vote, but a discussion, so I'm entitled to "badger" as you put it. I have harassed nobody at all, and as it is Proto has still not explained ''why'' he wouldn't ever trust him again. Please don't tell me to stop doing things I am allowed to do. --''']''' <sub>]</sub> 16:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Dear Doug Bell, | |||
| You're invited to a zoom call, taking place on February 11, with the goal of improving the article on ] to ] status! I often find it daunting to approach the Big Subjects on my own—so if you, like me, want a time to sit down with fellow dedicated editors and tackle something important and complex, this is the zoom for you! I, unfortunately, have no way to transmit snacks over zoom; but I trust you to exercise good judgement and discretion in selecting snacks of your own. Hope to see you there—if you're interested, ''']'''! | |||
| :I did not tell you what to do, I asked. Please be civil as you have asked others. In a discussion, someone can say "I don't think that's a good idea." That opinion can be judged for its value based on the reputation and experience of the person making it. That is a contribution to the discussion, not a vote. They can choose to elaborate on why it's not a good idea, and that adds further to the discussion, but the statement itself is still part of the discussion, not a vote. Nobody is required to add anymore to the discussion than they choose, and for you to make disparaging remarks about another person's contribution to the discussion, when the sole basis of your complaint is simply that they did not contribute enough, is badgering and at best impolite and at worst incivil. —] <sup>]</sup> 18:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ] (] • ]) (]/she) 00:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::"Please stop" is telling me what to do. I don't really know where I wasn't civil, but to call my comments badgering ''is'' incivil. ''It's a discussion, so I can comment where I like and as much as I like.'' In this case, Proto put '''Absolutely not'''. That is what I call impolite – not only is it degrading to the candidate, it helps the discussion no further. Why absolutely not? What has the candidate done to deserve such a strong two word !vote? Same with your comment – simply putting oppose means nothing in a discussion. What you've done is '''voted'''. A sensible bureaucrat would normally ignore votes. --''']''' <sub>]</sub> 18:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Nomination for deletion of ] == | |||
| ]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> – ] (]) 23:07, 8 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| == LA Meetup: February 17, 2024 == | |||
| :::"Stop" is telling you what to do, "Please stop" is asking. English 101. The bureaucrat is free to weigh anyone's comments as they see fit. The same goes with support. I don't see you querying Terence Ong about his reasons for supporting, and a bureaucrat may well decide to discount his contribution as well. —] <sup>]</sup> 18:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::It is general etiquette to provide a reason for opposing – the candidate should be "innocent until proven guilty". And support traditionally means they agree with the nomination. That's why I don't question Terence, and anyway, I often support without comment myself. --''']''' <sub>]</sub> 18:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I have participated on at least 100 RfAs and this is only the first (or maybe second, not positive) time I've left an oppose without stating my reasons. I will leave it to the bureaucrat to decide whether to take my comment in light of my past reasoning or to discount it. I prefer not to get into my reasons, but I have them. I think Proto's response to your request was quite clear, and nearly identical to Radiant's immediately preceeding oppose, which you seem to have no issue with. It was your followup response that I found to be badgering and bordering on incivility, not your initial request for clarification, especially since with his response to your request, Proto's reasons are as well stated as many other opposers. —] <sup>]</sup> 18:44, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Radiant! at least stated ''why'' he opposes; Proto didn't. He did indeed explain vaguely after I asked; it was the edit summary (as I said) that bothered me: "constructive and polite response to patronising". If he had simply put "reply" or whatever I would have taken the issue no further, but he obviously has a problem with clarifying himself, if he finds it patronising. --''']''' <sub>]</sub> 18:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Aah #2F4F4F - like that colour, now I got the code....cheers ] 06:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Please join on Saturday, February 17 from 12:00 to 4:00 pm for a Los Angeles and West Hollywood-themed edit-a-thon at the ]. (For the details and to sign up, see ].) | |||
| == you might have worded things better == | |||
| We'll also be celebrating Misplaced Pages's 23rd birthday/Wikipedia Day. (There will be cake!) | |||
| Hello, I ended up following the whole thing between you and Sarah and Riana and Spawn, and I thought I would say that you ''might'' have worded things a little better and perhaps gotten a better response from Spawn Man. I've left my own message on his talk page, and I hope he takes it to heart. --]] 09:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| We hope to see you there! ] via ] (]) 20:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :No doubt, but I'm tired of his antics. While that's probably the most uncivil thing I've said here at Misplaced Pages, it's also accurate and nowhere near as uncivil as his comments have been. At this point I'm not going to tiptoe around his tantrums anymore. —] <sup>]</sup> 09:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I understand why you made the comments, and I chose to write something on his page because I was pretty offended by what I see as an abuse of Riana's talk page, especially when she has worries in real life. I hope you agree with what I wrote on Spawn Man's talk pagee. I'm concerned about him, that he might be acting this way out of problems in RL, but that's not something I can or should fix for him. I hope things get better for everyone, including Spawn. --]] 09:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == June 8, 2024 == | |||
| "Sordid" is precisely the right adjective. Glad you enjoyed that: if the whole thing wasn't at such an inappropriate time it would be so funny I'd be rolling around on the floor in tears of laughter, but as it is it just isn't amusing. I've seen a few things that have angered me at Misplaced Pages, but nothing so revolted me as that. Criminy. What a wikidrama to wake up to in the morning...Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :Oh, and BTW you may like to check the history of Jimbo's talk. Feel free to revert me if you like, maybe that should be allowed to stand. Then again, maybe not. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I might revert back to Spawn's version - I understand the motive behind it, but hell, everyone else seems to use Jimbo's talk as a sounding board. It'd be disrespectful to Spawn to not let him have his say. I don't mind if Jimbo wishes to step in, either (although I doubt he would, in a hundred million years). <span style="font-family:trebuchet ms">]_]</span> 11:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :::It's fine with me if you want to revert it. —] <sup>]</sup> 12:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Edit-a-thon August 24 == | |||
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| Oh thank God! :) ''']''' 11:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ]'''<big> August 24: Not just an edit-a-thon, an edit-a-thon in ].</big>''' | |||
| == ] userpage == | |||
| Please join ] at an edit-a-thon to improve and create articles related to marine life and the ocean in the Los Angeles area. Inspiration courtesy of the public library in Manhattan Beach, one of SoCal's most beautiful coastal communities. | |||
| <br>'''Saturday, August 24 from 10:00 AM - 2:00 PM<br>Manhattan Beach Public Library, 1320 Highland Ave., Manhattan Beach 90266'''<br> | |||
| I have no idea if this is the proper way to communicate right now, but I'll give it a shot. | |||
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| Today, February 10th I logged on to my userpage and discovered it has been deleted by you. My userpage. It told about myself, it told of my wikipedia expierence, and you deleted it. At first during the deletion many claimed I wasn't an active member of Misplaced Pages.. that assumption was quickly verified. Following which the claim was it was used for "advertising", that point quickly stumbled upon my defense. Then it was it didn't have enough content about my Misplaced Pages expierences, I added a section. Though it was small I admit, but it was there. Did you delete my userpage for personal reasons? Because quite frankly, I'm stumped right now. A year ago I created the original Wranglers_04 section in Misplaced Pages's main space, a moderator kindly moved it to my userpage, a year later its gone. My personal userpage, who of which the average Misplaced Pages user (and probably the above average at that) would have never seen in the first place. | |||
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| Doug, honest to God, tell me what was wrong with it. Try not to use some B.S excuse (yes, I said b.s, that stands for bull sh*t), and talk to me. My effort, my work into that page is gone like a snap, unsaved. This is demoralizing. I've never "spammed" wikipedia, I've never been abusive, sure I guess my use of words in the deletion debate could have been better but that's out of a burst of passion and pride to my work. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
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| :First, this is a fine venue for communicating regarding your deleted user page. | |||
| :The reason why this page was deleted is that it does not conform with what ]. User pages are not for creating or keeping articles that have themselves already been determined not appropriate for inclusion here. User pages are not personal pages for people to put any content they'd like on. As the closing ] for the ], it was my job to read the arguments on the talk page, evaluate the basis of those arguments, and then determine what the consensus of the discussion was in relation to ]. | |||
| :While I can understand your frustration with people just posting shortcuts to policy pages like ], if you are interested in understanding what is allowed and why people think that your page does not meet that criteria, I really suggest that you do read the ''"link to a B.S site"''. | |||
| :Neither {{User|Wranglers 04}} nor {{User|71.173.50.35}} (which I assume is you) have made any edits to Misplaced Pages outside of the ] user page, the previous ] article and the ]. This does not constitute being an active contributor, although it wouldn't really matter anyway as the content of the deleted page would be inappropriate in either case. Note also that most of the other contributors to the deleted page—{{User|68.203.244.250}}, {{User|Jerseyboy92}}, {{User|70.182.94.68}}, and {{User|69.37.50.46}}—have also not made any edits outside of these pages. This constitutes a use of this Web site for purposes entirely separate from building an encyclopedia, and therefore they were deleted. —] <sup>]</sup> 00:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Firstly, why should I take the heat of what userpages are and what they aren't? Was the moderator who moved my material there incorrect? It outrages me to hear it was "inappropriate".. I'd love for you to talk to the moderator who moved my material and discuss the manner, because clearly I guess I'm out of it and it was very "wrong" for me to do this. I've seen several other userpages here at wikipedia who of which do not include the criteria you included. | |||
| So because I said "link to a B.S site", my userpage is not credible. Unbelievable. | |||
| Secondly, you are incorrect on your assesment of my editing. If you look at the Austin Wranglers wikipedia page you will see I have added over 10 paragraphs concerning the team, feversishly updating whenever a move is made. On top of this, I have added on to CJ Miles' wiki, along with contribting to Westwood High School of Austin, Texas. In addition I have made several others on other respective sites. I am extremely dissapointed in your lack of research which leads me to ponder what other mistakes you have made. | |||
| :You aren't (or shouldn't be) taking the heat for the page. That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be deleted, but given that another administrator moved it there, nobody should be "giving you heat". I understand that some of the comments on the MfD (the deletion discussion) were either abrupt, or assigning motives to you that may not have been accurate. Please don't take any of that personally. | |||
| :Your "B.S." comment had no bearing on the decision. The only point I was making about that comment was that it indicated that you weren't availing yourself of the explanations people were trying to offer. It would help your cause to become familiar with the policies. | |||
| :My assessment of your editing is based on the contributions by {{User|Wranglers 04}} and {{User|71.173.50.35}}. If you've edited anonymously under other IP addresses, I would have no way of knowing that. | |||
| :One other thing, please sign your comments using four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. —] <sup>]</sup> 02:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Doug, I'm not a spammer, I'm not a hater. I don't feel like going in circles over this whole ordeal.. I will agree to add thick and thorough details over my Misplaced Pages usage and edits I have made over the past, plus I will continue to edit under Wranglers_04. If possible I would like to have my original content below it if possible. | |||
| I've seen how other users here set up their pages-- some with the buttons representing their interests and such. | |||
| ] 04:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Wranglers_04 | |||
| :We're not haters either. As I said above, even if you were a prolific contributor, the page would be inappropriate. It is not written as a breif list of your interests, but rather as an encyclopedic article. Further, although I don't quite understand its significance, the discussion of your business interest is also against policy. Misplaced Pages user pages are not to be used for any commercial interests or advertising. Including a mention of your message board id on your user page if fine. Including a lengthy article written in the third person chronicaling your history of message board participation is not. People are allowed to include a ''short'' bio, but aren't allowed to include their resumé. User pages are not for promotion, advertisement or social networking. The purpose is to support your activities writing an encyclopedia here. People are allowed some measure of leeway with this policy, but your page was outside the boundaries of this leeway. The fact that no record of your participation in the encyclopedia was evident further cuts the slack allowed to zero. | |||
| :The decision to delete the page was not mine, although had I offered an opinion in the matter, it would have been to delete the page. The decision was based on ] and the consensus of the editors who chose to participate in the discussion. I can't see much on the page that would be allowed. If you want a copy to move to another site off Misplaced Pages I will be happy to provide the deleted content to you—just ask. —] <sup>]</sup> 05:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Inasmuch as I've undertaken on one or two occasions to quibble with an administrative action of yours, I imagine that I ought to offer my compliments on your close of the instant MfD; I'd intended to suggest such a resolution myself (prima facie evidence, of course, of its wisdom) but think, more importantly, that you accurately appreciated for what general action a consenus lay, notwithstanding that no single editor appeared to have explicitly endorsed such specific action. For your fine exercise of good judgment, you receive the treasued ''good on ya!'' ]; were there one for demonstrating your brilliance by agreeing with me, you'd surely deserve one :)]. Cheers, ] 07:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks! :-) —] <sup>]</sup> 07:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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