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view · edit Frequently asked questions Why does this article exist at all? Because it is a notable topic that has been covered by reliable sources. Isn't this term offensive to Russians? Quite possibly, but Misplaced Pages is not censored and contains many articles on subjects that certain groups may find offensive. The purpose of Misplaced Pages is to provide free information, not to judge the morality of a topic or a phrase. I still think it should be deleted. In order for that to happen, you would need to make a compelling argument in a deletion discussion that the topic is not, in fact notable, and there is not significant coverage in reliable sources. Complaining about it on the talk page will not result in deletion, only a formal deletion nomination with compelling, substantive arguments based on Misplaced Pages policies will do that.

Dangerous word...

In my humble opinion, words are important, terminology creates logical and emotional associations in human brains. So, this word is dangerous, because it uses the word "Russian", which means simply every man that was born by the Russian women and speaks Russian language. Why do we blame every Russian, even if they do not support invasion in Ukraine? We must call it " Russian militarism" or maybe "ideology of Russian supporters of invasion". Why use the word that offence russians who not support invasion, or maybe even supports Ukraine? I think this word leads to russofobia and national conflicts, not to clear understanding of the situation. May the peace be on Earth. Stop war! 79.172.89.185 (talk) 18:00, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Nearly all the sources used are Ukrainian sources. This is fully propaganda. Once the war dies down. We can delete some of this nonsense. Ahm1453 (talk) 20:14, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Ukraine has faced Ruscism in the closest way. Once the war is down this article will be updated with a references to thousands of russian criminals sentenced in UN court and to studies about this state-backed neonazi ideology that was spread by means of genocide. The main reason it can't be formalized is that Ruscism is not defeated yet. 2A02:2378:11BD:E0B4:2006:71BB:9E8A:D1BC (talk) 22:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

The word was first coined by Chechen independence leader Dzhokhar Dudayev and was used even before Russian invasion of Ukraine. 78.58.3.21 (talk) 12:48, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

In my opinion, the only dangerous word here is "russophobia". It shifts the conversation from Russia committing crimes now, it's historical responsibility for numbers of crimes throughout Eastern Europe in XX century and its colonial policy years prior. In its effects it's similar to "All lives matter" which is an anti-thesis to "Black lives matter". 94.254.144.201 (talk) 15:16, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

it’s a shame this page exists RudolFreedom (talk) 06:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Its a shame that Ruscism and "ruskies" (cliche of Aryan race) and "Ruskie mir" (cliche of Lebensraum im Osten") exist. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 05:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Nice to see how Misplaced Pages has turned into a source of western racism. Yet again... 2A02:3030:615:ECBA:CF9B:3D97:908:EC73 (talk) 07:37, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

WP:IDONTLIKEIT, you politically opposing a concept does not mean it doesn't exist. Ashleighhhhh (talk) 17:12, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Rashism is combination of two words "Russia" + "Fascism". It's just a shorthand and doesn't imply any ethnic bias. 78.58.3.21 (talk) 12:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Good German

That what happens when nobody who is a resident of country (not born, but tax resident) objects against state-backed neonazism. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 05:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

— 79.172.89.185 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

@79.172.89.185 you're right 46.72.204.73 (talk) 18:44, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Absolutely correct, it’s a shame this page exists. JtLea7 (talk) 07:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

• I think this is completely wrong interpretation. If applied to people (i.e. to "rashists") the term is not about all ethnic Russians or Russian-speakers (many thousands of ethnic Russians are killed by rashists in Mariupol), but to citizens of Russia who support or participate in Russian military aggression, colonialism, or state-promoted totalitarianism (they are not necessarily ethnic Russians, some of them are Buryats, whoever). The term does apply to the entire Russian armed forces during wars in Chechnya, Georgia, Syria and Ukraine. My very best wishes (talk) 02:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Moreover, it is normal to use country name to refer to the regime, even if it's fascist. E.g. Italian fascism, Austrofascism. --Cannibal Rat (talk) 11:15, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

It is a shame that state-backed Neonazi ideology of Ruscism exists. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 06:42, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

So this Russian fascism, I wonder if there are some examples of Russian officials claiming Russian superiority over other ethnicities/races? If I missed the announcement, and Misplaced Pages has been converted to hate bible or something, fine with me. Just like to know when changes like that occur. Anyone has ideas what slur we should use for American, British, and Canadian Nazism defined governments? After all, those states all oppress their minorities, don't value lives of non-whites, disregard international agreements, USA illegaly occupies land all over the globe and assassinates people 24/7. If a Snyder that built his "fame" on making excuses for real Nazi collaborators in Poland and Ukraine, and calling the people that defeated Hitler fascists can do it, are we supposed to agree to also become immoral scum like him? I swear, the dishonorable assholes are aparently in charge of society now, and everyone else forgot how to read a document or use their brain. AzzAzeL-US (talk) 05:45, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

if there are some examples of Russian officials claiming Russian superiority...? Yes, of course. Some of them are described on pages What Russia Should Do with Ukraine, Address concerning the events in Ukraine, On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians ("unity" means that Ukrainians have no right to exist because they are Russians and all their land is Russia - just to simplify), On conducting a special military operation, etc. My very best wishes (talk) 01:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

It's also worth noting the hate speech, e.g. . -- Mindaur (talk) 11:37, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Oh yes. There is so much of that, and not only about Ukrainians, but also about Russians who recently left the country, the enemy West, etc. I am not reading it to remain sane. My very best wishes (talk) 13:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

All this hate speech and other warmongering by Russian officials (e.g. today ) serve an important purpose: to paralyze Western leaders with fear. In essence, they are telling "We will kill you all", and these are not just empty words, given the increased attacks on Ukrainian civilians. That fear mongering is the only reason why Ukraine did not receive a lot more weapons long time ago, and still did not receive Western tanks, aviation and long-range missiles. My very best wishes (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

It's true, but there is another breakthrough in military aid happening right now. Anyway, WP:NOTFORUM in this talk. -- Mindaur (talk) 13:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

It also serves to cheer the genocide of civilians by Russian military. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 05:47, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

If you're going to search for a word-for-word similarities between German and ruzzian fascisms you may not find them or find only a few. That still doesn't mean that ruzzian regime and ideology are not fascist-like. And because it's not the classic fascism known from the 20th century but a ruzzian breed of it, it's received its own name. But several hallmarks common to both German and ruzzian fascism stand out: irredentism, revanchism, imperialism, colonialism, cult of the past along with repressions, curtailing of civic freedoms, one party rule. Calling a spade a spade has never been dangerous unless you're living in a tyranny which ruzzia is. LXNDR (talk) 10:36, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Ein Volk = "Odin narod"

Untermensch = "nation that had been artificially created by Lenin"

Lebensraum im Osten = "Russian World" 2A02:2378:11BD:E0B4:2006:71BB:9E8A:D1BC (talk) 22:41, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Nonsense, Ein volk is about racial purity and consolidation in isolation, Odin narod is a frequently used expression that refers more to the trinity, Belarusians, Velikorissian and Malorussian, and in general it is more about the proximity of nations. The nation artificially created by Lenin is an absurd propaganda theory, but it is far from the same as the Untermensch. The first is about arguments about the legitimacy of the invasion and that "We are one people", and the second is about hierarchy and the legitimacy of discrimination.

Lebensraum im Osten this is about expanding to expand and settle the nation, and the Russian world is just an irrendentism. 81.163.45.41 (talk) 00:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Exactly what Ruscism is. Not just racial purity, but the race is made up: "Aryan race"="ruskies". But only Velikorossian has agreed to be repainted into this made up race while Malorossian has transformed into Ukrainian gaining their national state in the beginning of XX. Because ruscism craves for racial purity, they have claimed Ukrainians as Untermensch and started to ethnically cleanse (Anti-Ukrainian sentiment) the russian occupied territory ("Lebensraum" or "Russian world from them. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 05:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

As we may see, "Ruskiy mir" is exactly about expanding, ethnical cleanse on the gained territory and about concentration camps network on the occupied territory: Russian filtration camps for Ukrainians 176.113.167.189 (talk) 05:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Ruscism

Nothing to complain about, just saying something. Compared to older early 2022 edit of this article, current version of this page emphasize it was a neologism and derogatory term, which is accurate, thanks for the editor who edited it. Only Ukrainian media and society or it's supporter, and very few scholar use that terms, while the rest of the world never use that word to describe Putin government ideology.

Early days of the Russian invasion is absolutely wild, Misplaced Pages articles covering the war, at least during 2022, disregarded Misplaced Pages rule on neutrality and source reliability due to fervent pro Ukraine sentiment and anti Russian sentiment were at its peak. What claimed, alleged even if it was absurd, become a fact. Nevertheless, current Misplaced Pages editor are more unbiased and have objectivity, carefully analyze the source whether if it was confirmed or not, whether if the source such as news media said if they verify or not a claim from a warring side, more tolerant of Russian source instead of outright refusing, which allow recent Misplaced Pages pages about the war to be much neutral than articles in 2022. Dauzlee (talk) 08:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

See also section ... maybe needs some trimming?

The see also section seems excessive. According to ALSO: "Links in this section should be relevant and limited to a reasonable number. Whether a link belongs in the "See also" section is ultimately a matter of editorial judgment and common sense. One purpose of "See also" links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics; however, articles linked should be related to the topic of the article or be in the same defining category. " It seems like that advice has not been followed here. Just Step Sideways 22:52, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

I removed some, but think the remaining topic are indeed related and helpful to have linked. My very best wishes (talk) 02:40, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

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