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I was keeping an eye on the Free Republic discussion and was wondering where it got moved to. If you could give me a link, I would greatly appericate it. Take care...] <sup>(] - ])</sup> 20:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
:I'm opening up the case as we speak. See ] and its talkpage. All the links should be on the relevant pages within the next 15 minutes or so. ] 20:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


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The substantive dispute is that Rarelibra believes that all geographic articles should bear the ''official'' name given by the government controlling the area. I've run into him on this on ], where even an Italian editor who agrees with him on the naming question that we should prefer official names.


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I've also run into him on this on ], where the Turkish nationalists are in dispute with the Greek nationalists over the name of the article and other points. As an English speaker who had not seen the Turkish name until I saw the article, I have consistently supported Tenedos as the English name. As a result of this, he and the professional Turks are objecting to including one argument from that discussion on ].
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The civility dispute is , which contains an obscene and offensive Polish phrase, slightly minced. I have no idea why he is bothering to lie about it. ] <small>]</small> 22:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
:I don't read Polish so won't comment on that phrase. I have seen issues concerning methods of naming cities generate an enormous amount of bitterness on various pages of the project. (There is a pending arbitration case right now concerning whether the titles of Project:France pages should use words like "Department" or ''"Département"''.) I claim no expertise on the policy issue but hope that everyone can remain civil, and remind all parties that the response to alleged incivility should never be more of the same. ] 22:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you for your intervention. I only want to, as you state, move on and let the past lie. Thanks again. ] 14:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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I do need assistance with ] and his insistence on my talk page. Thank you. ] 15:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:I was going to post the following: ":No one should be calling ''anyone'' else names. That goes for everyone. Although some people believe it is not optimal behavior, users have the right to remove template warnings from their talkpages. The best plan, of course, is for everyone to act in such a way that there is no question of needing a warning template on one's talkpage." But when I went to your page I don't find the thread to post it to. ] 17:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't mean to bother you. I really appreciate your assistance. The problem I have with ] is that he cannot remain respectful whenever he dislikes someone. If you look at this diff , you'll see that he insinuates that I want to "lie to the reader". There was nowhere at all in my comments on this discussion a proposal to lie. In fact, my whole point was that we need to use the diatrics when using names (and redirect from non-diatric names) - a process that the workplace I am involved with does on a daily basis due to an international scope of work. I was also stating that a direct English translation of the name "Stanisław" is "Stanley" (like "Mark" from "Marek"). Yet user Pmanderson seems to be able to twist my words and attempt to slander me. This is what I wish to have stopped. I do not do the same with him, I expect the same respect in return. That is all. ] 14:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== Notability Guidelines ==

Would it be OK if I opened Notability Guidelines come 9 GMT? I've never opened a case before, but I did a practice at ]. ]<sup>(])</sup> 19:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:I'm just a "clerk trainee" myself, you'll need to consult with ] who deals with ArbCom on new clerk selection at the moment. In any event, I think opening the case is on hold for a short time pending the results of the mediation (or the arbitrators saying to go ahead and open the case despite the mediation). Regards, ] 19:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::Ah. I left a message on TT's userpage saying I would try to open it, but he hasn't responded. However if, as you say and as seems to be the case, there's this productive mediation going on I will of course hold off. Trouble for me is that as a hail from the ], I'm often not around twenty-four hours after the last accept vote, which was frequently cast during the daytime in the ], which is in the middle of the night for me. </grumble> ]<sup>(])</sup> 19:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Radiant has posted to the talk pages of Flo and Matthew re: the mediation, so I think we should wait for them to respond. Better to be late than wrong. (see also my comment at ]. You should note there if you want to take a case, that's where we coordinate these things. There's no reason a case has to be opened exactly 24 hours post-acceptance, and I would rather spread the work around, so go ahead and claim it on the ]. ] 19:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

== TBeatty's editing my comments on the RfA ==

Hi Brad,

Could you please ask or direct TBeatty not to refactor my comments on the RfA? He refactored my description of gay prostitute-slash-reporter Jeff Gannon describing him as 'conservative mouthpiece, cum-gay-prostitute' Jeff Gannon. He does this ALL the time, even on talk pages. Recently he even edited my remarks describing homophobic Episcopal bishop ] as a 'homophobe' Thanks. - ] 21:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:As I indicated on his talkpage, altering other users' evidence or comments on an arbitration page is not appropriate. Having said that, what value is there to making these types of references to real-world figures on an arbitration page. I am sure you can present your position effectively without doing so. ] 21:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::I will formulate an appropriate rant later this evening. In the mean time don't hesitate to lock down the pages temporarily if you need to. ] 21:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:::BLP policy makes no exception for Arbitration cases. I understand that I may not be the right person to refactor it, but it needs to be refactored. He has restored the defamtory material. I see no point in dragging BLP patrol people to arbcom as I don't think we need any more commentators (it's become a mess as is). He illustrated my point quite nicely though. --] 22:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to have this bleed over to your talk page but since his 'homophobe' accusation isn't in the source he provided, he was asked not to repeat it. It's simply unneccesary. Anyone can read the article and form their own conclusion. It was suggested to him previously not to do it . THese are pretty clear cut BLP issues. ] 22:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:If FAAFA is reading here I would like to ask him to consider removing the language in question, which is by no means going to affect the result of the arbitration case. ] 22:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::Why? It's been settled that Jeff Gannon '''''was''''' a gay prostitute. Please read the discussion in Jeff Gannon talk - especially the real-world, grounded reasoning from Admins Guy and Galmeiel vs the tortured attempts by certain other editors to twist BLP in an effort 'protect' a fellow conservative. That's the Latin use of 'cum' too. If an Admin feels that calling Jeff Gannon a gay prostitute is a BLP violation, they can remove it. I would like that someone asks Guy or Galmeiel what they think. - ] 23:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:::But what does having that argument have to do with the arbitration case? The arbitrators need to read through the presentations and evidence and decide what to do about the problematic situation on the ] article and related matters. Are the words you are putting on the arbitration pages going to help them do that? That's a question for everyone, by the way. ] 23:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::::TBeatty decided to fill up the evidence section with claims about me - that he didn't even write, mind you - about '''my''' behavior - mostly from '''months''' ago - behavior that was '''already addressed''' in an Rfc '''months''' ago. Of course I am going to address his own WP violating behavior. I have nearly finished with it though. (unless he persists) I believe admins are allowed to edit the RfA. Maybe an Admin should edit out all the info that has '''nothing''' to do with Free Republic, which would delete 95% of Tbeatty's laundry-list of irrelevent complaints, and my counter-complaints. Peace Now! - ]

== Ilena ==

Thanks for letting me know. I should have known the situation would be bogged down and complicated. :-) ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 03:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== Free Republic Arbcom case ==

Hi! How much time do I have to get evidence together? There are a lot of differences to go through, and real world events and recent cyber-attacks on my infrastructure here have kept me from doing it. I run two radio networks, stream a third one, and run a major web site, and this weekend we are traveling to visit my wife's family in another state. If I cannot complete this in time, no loss, though, dealing with the Hinnen brothers and their sock puppets has about totally turned me off Misplaced Pages for good, and I actually posted my retirement, but several editors and admins asked me to stay on. --] 19:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:The written rules indicate that the arbitrators allow at least one week from the opening of the case to compile evidence. In reality, the arbitrators have several cases on their plate that opened before yours, so you probably have even more time than that, unless they decide to vote on some sort of temporary injunction. So I think you still have time to put together whatever you think is appropriate, bearing in mind that the primary purpose of the arbitration pages is to provide the arbs with the information needed to reach a fair result in the case rather than to prevail on the merits of any underlying content issue. Hope that helps. ] 19:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::Got it. Thanks. --] 19:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== AIV and ] ==

Done, I think. Wouldn't hurt to double-check. :) &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">] (])</span> 20:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks. Looks okay to me. Real world does get in the way sometimes. :) ] 20:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== Fine ==

Since everyone is ignoring me on ANI, can you take a look at ]? He's being a prat wrt orphaned images. He's been blocked for a week before, and I gave him a final warning in January. I think he may have just about exhausted his stock of AGF. ]<sup>(])</sup> 21:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:I posted a final warning to his page pointing out that I am an admin and about to block his account. Let's give it 48-72 hours to see what happens and if this doesn't help I will probably have to block indef unless/until he complies. I've watchlisted his page, as well, so we'll see if he answers. Regards, ] 21:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::Gosh, you're polite. ]<sup>(])</sup> 08:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:::None of the user's contribs seem to have involved writing a word of English. Is it possible he doesn't speak it? In which case maybe a Spanish speaking user should explain about the need for copyright licenses for images? <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 09:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::::You know, I was wondering the same thing. Does anyone who happens to be reading here know enough Spanish to follow up? ] 10:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


== Do I need to put up with this? ==
Should I wait for arbcom or should I just report to ANI for . --] 13:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:I've commented and asked him to stay off your talkpage. I certainly hope there will be no more of this sort of thing. Since I'm clerking the case I don't want to do more, but you are certainly free to mention the matter in your evidence and/or to post to ANI if you wish. ] 14:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::I'll leave it in evidence and it looks like Thatcher dropped a warning too, so no need to do any more. Thanks! --] 14:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

::::Hi Brad - I don't think you or Thatcher understand. Tbeatty a) reverted an old deleted pic twice b) created a talk page about the pic. He obviously was interested in the pic. I thought it important to let him know the history. and Was it the link to the Jeff Gannon pic ? Was that the problem ? Thanks - ] 15:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Can't you just say away from your antagonists, and vice versa, as much as you can? Please? Beyond that, since there's no urgency, I'll leave it for the arbitrators. ] 15:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

Congratulations. I know how hard you worked on this. ] 00:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks! —<span style="color: red;">] (])</span> 00:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

==Found ....==

I've found the "official website" of the ] cartoon. It is . ] 21:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


== A question ==
In the evidence, are editors allowed to make up any absurd claim as fact? Read these in sequence . I think he made an honest error but doesn't want to let go of it and is therefore twisting it into something absurd. Can I presume that the ArbCom committee will see through the absurdity or do I have to rebut it? --] 00:23, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:You can presume that the arbitrators are intelligent, experienced, and dedicated editors. You can also assume that they have a lot less familiarity with your case and the editors involved in it than the participants do. I'm not going to tell anyone what to include in evidence and will have to trust that people use their best judgment. If you believe the situation is clear, you could always explain BRIEFLY why you believe the statement to be false and say that you can provide additional evidence if requested. Bear in mind that the arbitrators appreciate (and can most easily process) clear evidence, but in the past (not relating to this specific case), some of them have also expressed concerns about the length of the evidence presentations. Hope this helps. ] 00:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::It does. I think the familiarity is the key. I will also try to shorten my evidence a bit and make it more direct. I was hoping the links would would tell the story, but it may be too overwhelming to expect ArbCom to follow each one. thanks! --] 00:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Frankly, and I am not singling you out at all, if I were an arbitrator I would find much of the evidence and virtually all of the workshop as presented by the parties in this case to be virtually useless. The only thing that they make clear is such violent hatred felt by some of the parties for one another as to be extreme even for an arbitration case. Incidentally, for the benefit of anyone else who is following this, I note that in my administrator capacity I have just addressed a 3RR report relating these same disputants. The report and underlying user conduct has done nothing to elevate the tone of the overall discussion. ] 00:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Brad - I addressed that on TBeatty's talk page - which he deleted:

;Your refactoring is a violation of WP

;Behavior that is unacceptable

**'''Don't edit others' comments''': Refrain from editing others' comments without their permission (with the exception of prohibited material such as libel and personal details).

***'''An apologetic exception''': If you wish to retract a negative comment in the interests of harmony, insert a placeholder in the text such as, "", so your fellow editors' irritated responses still make sense. In turn, they may then wish to replace their reply with something like, ""

''"Do not refactor me again. If you believe you (or Jeff Gannon, Peter Akinola, etc) have been libeled or my comments are BLP violations, contact an administrator or the BLP board."'' Brad, IMO his repeated refactoring of what I write is a violation of WP and intentional harassment - if he believes he is within his rights to do so, he '''is required''' to leave a placeholder so that '''others''' are aware that comments have been refactored or redacted. He doesn't. You will also note that it has been Tbeatty's stated goal to have me permenently banned since at least August. I have no such goal, I only would like to see him put revert parole, and counsoled regarding political agendas, POV, and BLP. Just read his talk archives where he accuses Wiki of systematic liberal bias, and how his goal is to change that. He even used the reference desk only a few days ago as a platform to blatantly push his POV and political agenda and (IMO) conspiracy theories! (link coming) - ] 01:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::::The edit-war on that image is ridiculous behavior. I'm taking no action, and leaving the entire situation to the tender mercies of the arbitrators. ] 01:23, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::Can I get a finding on the artistic merit of my endeavor? ;-) '''WARNING: adult content''' - ]

'''A question to the Ref desk''' asked about Global Warming in '''Great Britain'''. Tbeatty even used '''this''' as an opportunity to push his politics, his POV, and his 'conspiracy theories' about the media and 'global cooling' ! ''"I believe the eastern United States has been cooling steadily but lots of places have been cooling. Not that you would have heard it on the news :). There are lots of suggested outcomes of Global Warming mostly though it creates alarmism instead of representing scientific conclusions."'' ] 05:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC) This is unconsionable. Please make him stop ;-) - ] 01:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

==enough is enough==
I've been insulted before because of my efforts to improve our project, however, I find this to be way out of line and I'm expecting some sort of action. It's not the first time, and there was an ArbCom about Mongo's behavior… enough is enough. ] 01:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:FWIW, I concur. - ] 01:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::I would have phrased the comments differently, but I don't see anything requiring administrator action at this time. ] 14:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

==Re: ]==
It isn't all that obscure, but it is pretty easily overlooked as well in my experience. I didn't hear it until a good ten years after I thought I had exhausted all the monty python material out there ;) (also, tbh I was not that big on the song either, but I find it enormously quotable).<br />
Thanks for havin' a sense of humour. One worries, sometimes, in the wake of all this unfunny business around, of all things, comics. ''']'''|] <sub>-- I like traffic lights --</sub> 01:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

== RfAr ==

Do you think you could ask DeanHinnen to 'reign it in' a little?

*Also, another reason why you got a 24-hour block was "misrepresentation." This is a polite way to say "lying," sir. Your entire participation in this proceeding, as well as FAAFA's, consists of misrepresenting the evidence. The constant distortions, half-truths and spin-doctoring don't even stop here. Dino 13:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC) Thanks - ] 09:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

::I'd like ''everyone'' to rein it in a little on those pages. See my comments to Tbeatty above. ] 14:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

== Do you think... ==

]. Also see ]. Thoughts? ] 15:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, he's ''persistent'', at least. Definitely "yes" to the question you are asking. ] 15:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::Just monitor for now? I almost blocked him, but then remembered that Asher was never actually blocked indefinitely...so this isn't an avoidance of a block. ] 15:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Given that ''he'' was desperate to have his name taken off wiki a week ago, I'm at a little bit of a loss. I'll be keeping an extremely close eye, and he's close to being blocked or at least soundly scolded for personal attacks anyhow. ] 16:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

== Re: My outburst on ANI ==

Thank you! I was considering replacing it with the word "prejudiced," seeing as such a statement would ''prejudge'' the existence of the article, but I decided two edits to make a comment is enough. <span style="font-size:95%">&mdash;], your friendly neighborhood ''']'''.</span> 17:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:Glad to help, I was worried I was being too nit-picky. :) I see that Centrx picked up on the same wording issue and worked it into his reply, which is more elegant than what I did. ] 17:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

== Paul Conners ==

Thanks for the info. Really, I won't be too surprised if he resurfaces as an IP or some such thing. I'll keep an eye out. ] 22:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:Just an FYI - This user was also blocked recently using IP 64.38.60.236 and has also used IP 70.188.138.214 (though not blocked on this one that I know of). ] <sup>]</sup> 22:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::If you need to report him again, feel free to reference the warning I left on his talkpage. ] 22:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

Thank you for letting me know....and thank you for not altering your RfA stance :)

I initially tagged it because it has no Alexa presence and Google finds only two hits for the title and three for the web URL . There didn't appear to be much opportunity for notability. I'm not arguing against your removal of the tag, just letting you understand my motivation for adding the tag. <font color="Green">]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">]</font></sup> 22:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

:It was a legitimate tag and I daresay 8 admins out of 10 would have deleted it. As I just wrote in a radically different context on WP:AN, I don't wear it on my sleeve but I am probably more "inclusionist" than most. In this case, I didn't see any harm to letting a new good-faith contributor have a chance to make something more out of the article. Or maybe it's just because I contribute to another legal humor and human-interest publication (not this one) and am generous to the breed. Regards, ] 22:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

::At the end of the day, I would agree that it is ultimately harmless. It wasn't really blatant advertising akin to "our site rules, go check it out!" (which I have seen) I actually googled it in the hopes that I might be able to assist in fleshing it out...mainly because it ''didn't'' strike me as simple advertising. Unfortunately, I couldn't really find anything other than two blogs. Hopefully, the authors can provide something that I overlooked. <font color="Green">]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">]</font></sup> 22:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

==BLP<>BIO==
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:Sorry; I knew that; just a slip of the tongue/fingers. ] 08:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Tbeatty's actions (again) ==

Several Admins determined that ] was a probable sock of BryanFromPalatine. Tbeatty (who actually felt that he should be made an Admin when he had under two months on Wiki and less than 600 edits ) took it upon himself to change that finding to being a sock of JoelHazaltine, then accused ME of false accusations, when I was agreeing with the consensus of several Admins. It has been TBeatty's stated goal since at least August to have me permenently banned, and this shows, yet again, that he will do '''anything''' to try and accomplish that.

He added the following to the RfAr evidence page.

1) ''"False accusations. Followed by backtracking "''

Can't you appoint a conservator for him - or something? A sanction? Thanks - ] 08:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:The first of your two points can be discussed with one of the admins who did the sockpuppet review, since I was not involved in it. The second is for the arbitrators. I will add my opinion that linking to a question he asked about adminship standards, 11 months ago, is inappropriate and a real reach. ] 08:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

::I thought I was a rather restrained in response to his actions. In case you didn't know, there's a wee bit of bad blood between us. - ] 08:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)



==RE: Brian Peppers==
Very well said. I support your position 100%. Regards, ] 13:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
==Re: Request for arbitration==
<cite id=Re:_Request_for_arbitration_reply_1> </cite> Thanks so much. That's what I'm thinking. Will deal with it when I got more time. :-) &mdash; ]] 21:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

Betacommand has now attempted to answer on his blocking for usernames. Could you close the Rfc for now, until these have been addressed? I think it would be a good idea to keep the page ]<sup>See ] or ]</sup> 22:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:I'll be glad to do that, but I'd appreciate it if you could (1) post the request to close the RfC on the RfC page (so anyone who sees the page will know it was closed at your suggestion), and (2) give me a link to Betacommand's response and put that on the page as well. Thanks, ] 22:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Done (although I didn't use a template to request closure). The links are below to show betacommand has been trying to address this (I've added them into the Rfc);
* on ]
* on ]

NOTE:All other disucusions had been closed meaning betacommand was unable to comment ]<sup>See ] or ]</sup> 22:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:Closed and de-listed for now. Good luck in resolving the issue, which is important, and the RfC can be reopened if necessary. ] 23:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


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