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== Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2023 ==
== Name ==


{{edit semi-protected|Belgaum|answered=yes}}
It may be time for us to revisit this move discussion. Six months ago, we determined that the old name for this town was still the ]. Since then, there have been many anonymous editors who tried to rename the article, and it is now protected to prevent disruption. The search results now are fairly evenly split between the two names, but the newer media articles all seem to prefer the name Belagavi. ], for example, uses the term almost exclusively, using generally to refer to the district or organization that still use the former name. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">]</span>] 12:50, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
1. Wiki header should be changed to " Belagavi" and article informatio. should contain the unofficial name or old name Belagaum inside the article . It seems to be the other way round.
2. More edit requests will follow once the first one is rectified. ] (]) 14:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> see ] ] <small><code>]]</code></small> 16:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


== Requested move 12 March 2023 ==
It appears only ''anonymous'' users want to change the name. Any as of March 23, 2019, the name dispute is still continuing, but this time, changing the name throughout the article, so it's inconsistent with the title. I've reverted the changes as a reviewer consistent with consensus here, thereby inadvertantly entering into the content dispute. Blah! It's a legitimate dispute, nobody's right or wrong here. When I googled 'Belagavi', it returned results for 'Belgaum'! We need stability, and I'm voting to leave the name as is. ] (]) 21:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


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Belagavi ] (]) 12:22, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
:''The following is a closed discussion of a ]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a ] after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.''


The result of the move request was: '''not moved.''' Consensus is that Belgaum is still the ] at this time. <small>(])</small> ] (] • ]) 19:14, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2021 ==
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] → {{no redirect|Belagavi}} – official name was changed in 2014, and Majority of the Reliable sources published after that are using the "Belagavi" so as per ] the article is eligible to rename as "Belagavi" , Sources which are using "Belagavi" : ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] etc ... . ]<sup>]</sup> 20:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC) <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;] (]) 03:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC)</small>
{{edit semi-protected|Belagavi|answered=yes}}
:'''Oppose''' Misplaced Pages is a world-wide encyclopedia, and the ] is determined by what English speakers, the world over, most readily recognise. Local media do not reflect this world-wide situation, as most of their readership readily knows both names, Although only a very crude measure a Google search for gives 66.3 million hits, whereas gives just 12 million - ] (]) 20:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Please change the name to Belagavi ] (]) 05:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
:'''comment''' another reason to support move as per ] : quality encyclopedias ;] :- https://www.britannica.com/place/Belagavi ]<sup>]</sup> 21:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
* '''Support''' based on Google News search results, it seems clear that Belagavi is now the common name. ] (]) 03:21, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Arjayay. -- ] (]) 14:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Comment'''. As was the case at the time of the last move request ], in , and for what it's worth, and , Belgaum still outpaces Belagavi. ]<small>]</small> 04:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/21/they-cut-him-into-pieces-indias-love-jihad-conspiracy-theory-turns-lethal ] (]) 09:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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== Needs change of city name to Belagavi ==
:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> see ] ] (]) 07:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)


The name of the city has been officially changed as Belagavi on 1st November 2014 by Government of Karnataka, with approval of Ministry of Home Affairs, Government of India. ] (]) 17:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2022 ==


:Look at the section immediately above this one - there was a requested move discussion about this, which failed. ] (]) 17:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
{{edit semi-protected|Belgaum|answered=y}}
] (]) 13:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC) ::If not, change the name of this page ] (]) 17:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
:::No. It was decided not to do that in the RM discussion above. ] (]) 17:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> as you have not requested a change.<br />Please request your change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".<br />Please also cite ] to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - ] (]) 14:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)


== Change of title from Belgaum to Belagavi. ==
== May 2022 ==


Majority of the English speakers use the name Belagavi in their conversations. It is now time to change the title of this page from Belgaum to Belagavi. ] (]) 08:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|More eminence}} Do not use unreliable sources in the article. Go through ] and ], is not a reliable source. Secondly, do not put unsourced content, third do not falsify content like you did by replacing pop figures for Kannada with Marathi. This kind of POV is not entertained in WIkpedia. Discuss your concerns here and seek ] per ]. - ] (]) 13:45, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
:Please provide the evidence for your claim - ] (]) 12:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


== Article name must be changed to Belagavi. ==
Those are not just unreliable source but if come and ask any old age members of the city they would reply you the same . I myself born and brought up in the city , so I know much better about it than any one. Look like you are against the marathi voice!? ] (]) 13:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


On 1st November 2014, names of 12 Karnataka cities changed. Belgaum was changed as Belagavi. Then union home minister Rajnath Singh gave his approval to the proposal of the Karnataka government made on October 27, 2006 to change the names of the 12 towns and cities in consonance with their pronunciation in Kannada language. <ref>url=https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/karnataka-belgaum-mysore-names-of-12-cities-changed-kannada-223614-2014-10-17<ref> ] (]) 09:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
And about the MES article, whats the problem with you about the ideology they follow? They can follow any ideology who are u to stop them ? . Listen my dear friend you might be an expert in Misplaced Pages but I am an resident of the city so please I know what am I editing. You people just don't want marathi to be recognised by people and spread hatret ] (]) 13:58, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
:We obviously know that, since the article clearly states "'''Belgaum''' also '''Belgaon''' and officially known as '''Belagavi'''".<br>As this is the English Misplaced Pages, we use the ] in English, not the ], or the name in Kannada. If the common name in English eventually changes, we will change our article title, as we did with Mumbai. However ] was changed to Bengaluru in 2006, and the continued use of Bangalore for our article title has passed 14 move discussions. - ] (]) 10:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

::Its not true. You have a misconception. Belagavi is the only common name. From city to district administration every official government website uses Belagavi.
:{{ping|More eminence}} Misplaced Pages articles are properties of Misplaced Pages and not of any organisation or a person. Thus, the articles should follow the policies and guidelines laid by Misplaced Pages, including ], usage of reliable sources ], ] and maintenance of ], among others. In other words '''you are not a reliable source'''. Secondly, maintain ] when conversing, comments like "Look like you are against the marathi voice", "You people just don't want marathi to be recognised by people and spread hatret", will get you into trouble.
::Apart from that all national level medias use the common name Belagavi. For your reference :

::1.Moneycontrol |Title=Jagadish Shettar retains BJP bastion Belagavi in Karnataka
:Third as for the ], per ], Indian scripts are not allowed in article leads and infoboxes, This specific article is not a special case. It is done in every India-related article. - ] (]) 14:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
::Url=https://www.moneycontrol.com/elections/lok-sabha-election/karnataka-belagavi-bjp-jagadish-shettar-congress-mrunal-ravindra-hebbalkar-election-2024-result-article-12739669.ht

::ml
::{{ping|More eminence}} is exactly the thing that can get you blocked. - ] (]) 14:20, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
::2.Deccan Herald |Title=Lok Sabha Elections 2024: Belagavi constituency result

::Url=https://www.deccanherald.com/elections/india/lok-sabha-elections-2024-belagavi-constituency-result-3030640
Ok about the script of MES why are you editing the ideology? They can follow any ideology they want
::3.The Hindu |Title=PM Modi to reach Belagavi tomorrow
Why are you editing it ?
::Url=
] (]) 14:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
::https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/pm-modi-to-reach-belagavi-tomorrow/article68105884.e

::ce
:{{ping|More eminence}} If the 'Karnataka occupied Maharashtra' part you added can be sourced then re add that with a citation. I removed it since it was unsourced and looked very much POV. - ] (]) 16:08, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
::4.Times Of India |Title=Belagavi Ministers All Set To Launch Next Gen In LS Polls

::Rrl=ead more at :
Is this an sufficient source to do so ?? ] (]) 17:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
::https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hubballi/belagavi-ministers-launch-next-gen-in-2024-ls-polls/articleshow/108599824.c

::Kindly respect the emotions of local people. Don't do false common name statements here. ] (]) 18:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/will-incorporate-karnataka-occupied-areas-into-maharashtra-uddhav/article33592882.ece ] (]) 17:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
:::Please read the ] policy properly. We use the commonly used name in English language sources from all over the world. "{{tq|respect the emotions of local people}}" ← doesn't work like that otherwise we would have name the ] article as ]. Latter is just a redirect similar to ] in this case. - ] (]) 19:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|More eminence}} Yeah you can use the above source to add the 'Karnataka occupied Maharashtra' part in ] I believe. - ] (]) 17:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Ok thanks brother!
Can you please tell my why was image of Sambaji Maharaj removed from belgaum post ? ] (]) 01:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

:Is the Sambhaji statue located in Belgaum? The image description didn't say anything like that. Previously, I removed a similar image of a statue of Sambhaji located in another city. Only images of locations, buildings, statues, institutions from the city of Belgaum should be added. - ] (]) 09:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes ! Dharmaveer Chatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj chowk is the most important circle in the city . It's located at the centre of city and its a pride of city , I had uploaded an other photo just because it was clear
You can check on Google maps
(Dharmaveer Sambhaji Maharaj Chowk VG55+P6F, Kirloskar Rd, Raviwar Peth, Belagavi, Karnataka 590001)
And one photo need to be uploaded is about the most famous garden in Belgaum which is an important landmark of the city ! With your all permission can I add that photo to ?
Please verify on maps
(Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaja Garden RGX8+2W3, Kapileswar Colony, Shahapur, Belagavi, Karnataka 590003,)
Please guide me sir ] (]) 14:09, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|More eminence}} The image you posted before is a statue of Sambhaji in Pune. The full image is . We need an image of with proper licensing / free licensing.
:As for the garden, please link it here in the discussion. - ] (]) 16:34, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

File:Dharmaveer Chatrapati Sambaji Maharaj Chowk , Belagav.jpg
Will this be the required image?

And about garden you said I really didn't get what you meant, so please can u tell me once more! ] (]) 16:40, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

The image is '''<ref>{{ File:Dharmaveer Chatrapati Sambaji Maharaj Chowk , Belagav.jpg}}</ref> ] (]) 16:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|More eminence}} I have added the Dharamveer Chowk image you provided in the infobox with proper formatting. As for the garden, I was asking whether you have that uploaded in commons? IF yes link it here like you did with above image. - ] (]) 17:28, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

First I really thank you brother for uploading that image and would like to say sorry also for being rude to you ! You have helped me understand Misplaced Pages in a better way and would always remember it

So about the
Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden
The images are
'''<ref>{{File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden belgaum 2.jpg}}</ref>
And '''<ref>{{File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden 3.jpg}}</ref>
'''<ref>{{File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden belgaum.jpg}}<\ref>
You may choose any of the image accordingy !
And once again sorry and thanks ] (]) 18:09, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

'''<ref>{{File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden belgaum 4.jpg}}</ref> ] (]) 18:24, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Image '''<ref>{{File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden belgaum 4.jpg}}<\ref> ] (]) 18:26, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|More eminence}}I've added , since the venue is a garden and should a bit of the surroundings per my opinion. Are these pictures clicked by you? - ] (]) 18:33, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you sir !
Sir can this article of Deccan Herald be suitable for the edit of cuisine of belgaum . Like in Belgaum north karnataka food is not common,it's a mixture of Maharashtra,goa and karnataka. Also puran poli , vad pav etc which I had edited but you reversed it , please guide me whether those edits can be remade using this source?
'''<red><nowiki>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/melange-cuisines-717547.html</nowiki><\ref> ] (]) 02:43, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Sry this one '''<ref><nowiki>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/melange-cuisines-717547.html</nowiki><\ref> ] (]) 02:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

//www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/melange-cuisines-717547.html ] (]) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

:I've updated the Cuisine section as per the content in the source you provided. - ] (]) 12:58, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2022 ==

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Kindly request to add Veera Rani Kittur Chennamma and Veer Sangolli Rayanna photo along with Chatrapaji Shivaji Maharaj ] (]) 07:39, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2023

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1. Wiki header should be changed to " Belagavi" and article informatio. should contain the unofficial name or old name Belagaum inside the article . It seems to be the other way round. 2. More edit requests will follow once the first one is rectified. 2601:40B:8402:4920:992A:7765:5EFB:E6BE (talk) 14:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: see WP:ON small jars tc 16:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 12 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is that Belgaum is still the WP:COMMONNAME at this time. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:14, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Belgaum → Belagavi – official name was changed in 2014, and Majority of the Reliable sources published after that are using the "Belagavi" so as per WP:NAMECHANGES the article is eligible to rename as "Belagavi" , Sources which are using "Belagavi" : The Hindu, The Times of India, The Indian Express, Deccan Herald, Mint (newspaper), Asian News International, Hindustan Times, Free Press Journal etc ... . ಹುಲಿ🐯 20:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 03:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Misplaced Pages is a world-wide encyclopedia, and the WP:Commonname is determined by what English speakers, the world over, most readily recognise. Local media do not reflect this world-wide situation, as most of their readership readily knows both names, Although only a very crude measure a Google search for Belguam gives 66.3 million hits, whereas Belgavi gives just 12 million - Arjayay (talk) 20:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
comment another reason to support move as per WP:COMMONNAME : quality encyclopedias ;Britannica :- https://www.britannica.com/place/Belagavi ಹುಲಿ🐯 21:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Needs change of city name to Belagavi

The name of the city has been officially changed as Belagavi on 1st November 2014 by Government of Karnataka, with approval of Ministry of Home Affairs, Government of India. Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 17:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Look at the section immediately above this one - there was a requested move discussion about this, which failed. MrOllie (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
If not, change the name of this page Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 17:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
No. It was decided not to do that in the RM discussion above. MrOllie (talk) 17:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Change of title from Belgaum to Belagavi.

Majority of the English speakers use the name Belagavi in their conversations. It is now time to change the title of this page from Belgaum to Belagavi. 2409:40F2:1007:3A71:98F:9C80:3DA4:EA2B (talk) 08:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Please provide the evidence for your claim - Arjayay (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Article name must be changed to Belagavi.

On 1st November 2014, names of 12 Karnataka cities changed. Belgaum was changed as Belagavi. Then union home minister Rajnath Singh gave his approval to the proposal of the Karnataka government made on October 27, 2006 to change the names of the 12 towns and cities in consonance with their pronunciation in Kannada language. <ref>url=https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/karnataka-belgaum-mysore-names-of-12-cities-changed-kannada-223614-2014-10-17<ref> Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 09:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

We obviously know that, since the article clearly states "Belgaum also Belgaon and officially known as Belagavi".
As this is the English Misplaced Pages, we use the Common name in English, not the Official name, or the name in Kannada. If the common name in English eventually changes, we will change our article title, as we did with Mumbai. However Bangalore was changed to Bengaluru in 2006, and the continued use of Bangalore for our article title has passed 14 move discussions. - Arjayay (talk) 10:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Its not true. You have a misconception. Belagavi is the only common name. From city to district administration every official government website uses Belagavi.
Apart from that all national level medias use the common name Belagavi. For your reference :
1.Moneycontrol |Title=Jagadish Shettar retains BJP bastion Belagavi in Karnataka
Url=https://www.moneycontrol.com/elections/lok-sabha-election/karnataka-belagavi-bjp-jagadish-shettar-congress-mrunal-ravindra-hebbalkar-election-2024-result-article-12739669.ht
ml
2.Deccan Herald |Title=Lok Sabha Elections 2024: Belagavi constituency result
Url=https://www.deccanherald.com/elections/india/lok-sabha-elections-2024-belagavi-constituency-result-3030640
3.The Hindu |Title=PM Modi to reach Belagavi tomorrow
Url=
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/pm-modi-to-reach-belagavi-tomorrow/article68105884.e
ce
4.Times Of India |Title=Belagavi Ministers All Set To Launch Next Gen In LS Polls
Rrl=ead more at :
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hubballi/belagavi-ministers-launch-next-gen-in-2024-ls-polls/articleshow/108599824.c
Kindly respect the emotions of local people. Don't do false common name statements here. Djsourabh.bwd (talk) 18:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Please read the WP:COMMONNAME policy properly. We use the commonly used name in English language sources from all over the world. "respect the emotions of local people" ← doesn't work like that otherwise we would have name the Germany article as Deutschland. Latter is just a redirect similar to Belagavi in this case. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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