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*<small>See ] for all prior discussion from this page.</small>
'''<span style="color:white;">R E T I R E D</span>]'''</div><br></div>


<div class="center">'''Due to legal threats , this user left Misplaced Pages in August 2007. More information on my departure may be found at ]. '''</div>
== ] Photo ==


Hello again, Durin!


==Sorry==
I've located a PD image for the ] listing. The author wrote to me the following:


I'm terribly sorry for removing your notice, it was an accident. I was just reading through the archives, and forgot it was a past edition. Sorry about that. And I'm sorry if you don't want messages posted on this page now, but I wanted to contact you somehow! I don;t mind if you delete it again. I'm very sorry to see that you've left, and thankyou for your contributions. Good luck in life my friend, and sorry about my mistake before. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">]]</span> 18:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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Dave,<br />
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You're welcome to upload the photo to Misplaced Pages with a photo credit of "Photo by UNCW/Jamie Moncrief"<br />
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All of our state-produced images are indeed public domain and can be re-published with appropriate credits.<br />
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Thanks for checking!<br />
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Cheers,<br />
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Jamie Moncrief<br />
Coordinator of Photographic Services<br />
UNCW Marketing and Communications<br />
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University of North Carolina Wilmington<br />
601 South College Road<br />
Wilmington, NC 28403-5993<br />
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Photo Dept. 910/962-3601 <br />
Switchboard 910/962-3861 - Fax 910/962-3847<br />
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moncriefj -at- uncw -dot- edu
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== :-( ==


Sorry to see you go, Durin. I've seen nominal legal threats before, but I've never seen a note of pending litigation. How appalling. I was wondering when you might slow down editing (in relation to your earlier comments regarding lack of desire to edit), but I didn't realize it would close so quickly. :(
However, I'm not sure I found the best fitting EDU appropriate PD tag for it. The author states it is "state-produced" and is in the "public domain." But the school isn't a federal school, so most of the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>PD-'''''whatever'''''<nowiki>}}</nowiki> tags don't look like a perfect fit to me.


Best wishes in whatever endeavours you pursue. --] 18:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I've looked ], but I can't seem to find the PD tag that best fits. Can you help?


:You're one of the best, and have been enormously useful to Misplaced Pages. I'm terribly sorry to see this, and hope somehow that it will be sorted out. Good luck, and thank you for always answering my questions so patiently and helpfully. ] ] 18:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, --] 00:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


::What a nasty way to end an otherwise fine wiki-career. I know you'd been telling me for months you'd been on the brink of leaving, but I always thought you'd stay anyway. This is just... horrible. My second friend to leave Misplaced Pages in 3 days :( ''']''' ('']'') 18:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:* So I guess the PD tag I used is good enough then? I thot maybe some kind of <nowiki>{{PD-USGov-edu}}</nowiki> might exist. But haven't heard anything from you, so I assume the tag I used will do? --] 02:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
::*Sorry, I missed replying. The tag is probably fine. I would include a copy of the text above on the talk page of the image's description page, and provide a note on the description page that license release is available on the talk page. --] 04:47, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


Seriously? Right when I was about to join Durin's Fair Use Army full-time?!?! E kala mai. A hui hou, Durin. --] 18:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::* Done. Thanks. --] 20:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
:Someone still has to do the job. ''']''' ('']'') 18:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::More like 10 people to equal the quality output Durin was creating. :-) But hopefully this is just a minor, temporary thing, and Durin will return shortly. --] 18:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
*There's a slim chance I will return, but it's a Michael Jordan-esque "That 1% is for me and you can't have it". I'm in contact with the people who are prosecuting this investigation. Pending outcome of that, I *might* return. But, Majorly is right. I've been pondering leaving for a while for a variety of reasons. This isn't the final straw; that analogy is incorrect. It's more like the impact event theorized for the ]. It is astonishing to me that someone would go to such lengths over a handful of images. It's not worth it to me. I am a volunteer here. To put myself in the line of fire for lawsuits over images that I didn't create, didn't copy, didn't publish and didn't use is absurd. Frankly, and bluntly, I'm tired. I've been under near constant onslaught of all sorts of very nasty wikipedians who work arduously to bring me down simply because I uphold the Foundation's directives and this local project's policies. Everybody has their tolerance limit. I was near it before this event. This event easily doubled how much crap I have to tolerate, and I'm now well beyond my limit. . I've just checked my e-mail from e-pol.org, and sure enough I'm part of the investigation. Absolutely unreal. God help you all that work to uphold your policies. These people will stop at nothing to have their way. --] 19:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


::Still, what will they get out of it? At least you can claim you've made an online encyclopedia a better place for everyone. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">]]</span> 19:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
== Re:Be careful what you ask for :) ==


**<nowiki>:-o</nowiki> Un-fucking-believable. --] 19:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I want to thank you for your comment on my talk page and offer to review me to determine if you can nominate me for adminship. I'm definitely quite interested. That said, real life is a bit stressful for me right now, so I'm not really sure this is a good time for me to make an RfA. Things may improve within a week or even a few days, mind you. I don't know if you would feel like reviewing me now anyway, or if you'd rather wait until I feel ready to go ahead and make a run at adminship (not totally sure how you work that). But anyway, that's where I am now. I'm definitely grateful for the consideration you've given me thus far. ] 00:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:OK, Durin, my stress level has subsided enough that I'd be ready to approach an RfA sometime soon. Weekends do that. :-) Anyway, I don't know if you've already begun a review of me at all, but if you haven't, I think I'm ready for you to do so. Thanks, and hope to hear from you soon! ] 20:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:*Alright, I'll begin my review. Keep in mind this takes some hours, and is usually spread over a few days. If I have any questions for you, I'll drop you a note. --] 21:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:::No prob. I'm in no hurry. ] 22:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Huzzah! Well, we'll see how it goes! I guess I better get ready to answer the questions, eh? I'll re-read your guide about what to do when I'm nominated, too. ] 23:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Please do! I'm writing the nom now. Not sure I can get done before I have to stop for the evening due to other commitments. But, there's no rush here, and you should rush in your answers on the RfA either. I'll drop you a note when it's ready. --] 23:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


::You took the words right out of everyone's mouth there mate. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">]]</span> 19:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
==UMiami Userbox==
:::Ali'i nailed it...I've only been in contact with you for a few days, Durin, but you've been an excellent source of info and decently rational discussion about the image removal process, and I'll miss your input. Keep us posted on how this process goes. Best wishes to you. ] (] | ]) 20:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Uh, maybe because the previous userbox (1) had the wrong colors, (2) did not follow the standard format (did not say "This user attends or attended..."), and (3) was ambiguous (saying merely, "This user is a 'Cane!" and making no actual mention to the University of Miami). However, rather than delete someone else's work and co-opt the "User University of Miami" address, I've decided merely to supplant a subpar userbox with a better one, in conformity with other like university userboxes, on the education userbox page. Next time you claim your reverts are "well reasoned," please try and do a little investigative research beforehand. I don't mean to offend, but I do think this was a bit of lazy-editing on your part.-] 04:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
*Thank you for communicating. Please understand that engaging in a ] is very negative behavior, most especially when people are attempting to communicate with you. Being dismissive of other people's opinions and refusing to communicate is bound to lead to additional problems. I recommend you avoid this sort of behavior in the future. I'd also like to point out that ''neither'' userbox's colors match those of the logos found at either or . Further, your userbox does not follow standard naming conventions. Userboxes have all sorts of verbiage in them and there is no particular standard. The userbox you disagree with also does link to the University of Miami. In short, you're acting on your opinion alone and have been quite reluctant to engage in conversation to build consensus or to achieve an amicable compromise in this dispute. Rather than continue to revert people (and someone has reverted your change, again) I recommend you contact the people listed at who have the userbox you do not like transcluded, and begin a discussion on the issue, perhaps at ]. --] 14:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


Well that sucks. Do I have to assume that your offer to have a couple of beers and punch each other in the face is also off the table? At least consider coming back for doing a bit of editing: just like Jordan, you'll eventually miss the game as much as the game misses you. In the meantime, take care. ] 21:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:Once again, wrong on all counts. The colors in the previous userbox did not match the shade of the University of Miami's colors. What's more, the userbox made no mention of the fact that it was as "University of Miami" userbox (including nothing more than the phrase, "I'm proud to be a 'Cane!"). As these are userboxes listed on an "education" userbox page, a userbox should make some mention to the actual university in question, not just an ambiguous reference to the school's sports nickname. This proposition is further supported by the fact that just about every other userbox on the page includes language identical to "This user attends or has attended...". Perhaps if you would have taken the time to compare the prior userbox to the one that it was replaced with, these changes would have been apparent. But as I stated before, you engaged in egregiously lazy-editing, which is all the more troubling considering you're an administrator. In the future, it would be a good idea to actually take a look at the changes that were made before reverting. Otherwise, your reversions, as in this case, are bound to lack a reasoned basis--let alone a "well reasoned" one.-] 16:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
*I'm so very sorry to see you go. Best wishes in this & everything else. ] 21:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:*As I noted before, the colors in '''''BOTH''''' boxes did not match. There is no standard on what verbiage a userbox must have within it. I did look at the histories and your characterization of my efforts in this regard as "lazy" is off the mark. Again, I invite you to engage in discussion rather than continuing the revert war. --] 16:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
**I'm sorry if it has to end this way, Durin. I certainly hope that you will return if this is settled. Out of all the people I have come into conflict with here on Misplaced Pages, you are the most civil and patient by far. Here's to hoping everything turns out alright! Regards, '']]]'' 23:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:*Wrong once again. The colors do indeed match, and are the same colors used on the football page as the designated team colors. Simply stating your naked opinion that the colors "don't match" doesn't hold up. Furthermore, there is a standard as to what verbiage is used in educational userboxes--try taking a look at the page in question, rather than being so lazy in your editing. In fact, here's an exercise: of all the userboxes on that page, tell me how many do not contain matching language. Even ] has dropped his objection. Again, I urge you to quit being so indolent in your editing in the future.-] 16:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::*I pointed you to the explicit location of the graphics I used as reference for the colors. This is not a "naked opinion". The colors do not match. For example, in the previously cited graphic at , the green color is #003300. For the one previously cited at it is #1a5238. The green color located on the "U" graphic on the official U. Miami page located at is #0f572f. The green color on your userbox is #223732. I.e., your color matches none of these. Thus, your assertion that your color is the "correct" one is in fact not correct. I'm sorry you disagree with these facts, but they are immutable facts. The "standard" you describe does not exist in any Misplaced Pages guideline or policy. With regards to your continued insults, please have a look at ]. You can engage in conversation with someone without describing them as "lazy" and "indolent". I encourage you to do so. All the best, --] 16:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


==Not right==
This sucks. Hope you will be back soon. This "e-pol" stuff really doesn't sound right to me. I've never heard of e-pol. I tried finding out more on Google, but found nothing but their own website. There are virtually no backward links to e-pol.org. I looked at the information, and it doesn't seem right to me. I have doubts about e-pol, and recommend you do not give e-pol any information. Also, the fact that Danna's first contributions were so recent, on August 22. The first edit was to a wikiproject page, the next to create their userpage, and the following to create their talk page. Smells like a duck, walks like a duck... This just doesn't sound right. --] <small>(])</small> 21:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:E-pol.org calls themselves "Electronic Protection Online Programme" or Electronic - Protection Online Programme" with the hyphen. Searching Google for "Protection Online Programme" and spelling variations turns up nothing. Zero results. If this was legit, even if some aspects of what they do are secret and confidential, there would still be something about it on Google. This definitely doesn't seem right to me. --] <small>(])</small> 21:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:*Nor me, but the complainant bringing this is obviously quite energized and willing to go to unreal lengths in their aggression against me. --] 21:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


* Aude, good research. I tried at whois at register.com, and the website was registered in April of this year?? Go to http://www.register.com/whois.rcmx and type "e-pol.org". Weird. --] 21:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
== 206.219.87.130 vandalism ==


* . ] 21:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the patient explanation - I'll keep a closer eye on the dates of t4 warnings. I've reported many vandals on the basis of an IP's edits being vandalism-only, with warnings posted. This seemed sufficient evidence for issuing a block, but I realize I've been ignoring the chronology. - ] 16:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
*I did a bit of research myself. Seems connected to some sort of hoax or donation fraud. See my comments on ANI. In any case the websites of the related organizations are all as laughable as the one of e-pol.org. Supposedly, it's part of the "United Network for Universal Aid" and you should try and google that for fun... ] 22:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
*No worries. Happy to help! --] 16:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


*From what I can tell, E-POL's activities seem to be limited to sending you that e-mail, and having a website. Nothing else. ] 23:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
== ] ==


*The e-pol website is really quite creepy. If you click on the log tab it gives you a message that reads "Your IP and computer ID have now been logged". Wha??!! I didn't consent to that... Seriously something creepy about that website. I can see why this would make someone want to retire. ] ] 01:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The case has closed and the results are posted at the link above.
:*Your IP is logged on Misplaced Pages and can be checked through RFCU in case of abuse, it's no different here. Anytime you go to a site, you consend to letting them know your IP unless your using TOR, or something else. — ] ] 01:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


::* I was aware of that your IP is recorded with every website but I wasn't aware it recorded your computer ID, *stupid moment* . I guess it's also the manner in which the message reads to be honest. When added with the claims of "We can trace you precisely" and that kind of message that they are giving out about legal action, it's creepy. ] ] 12:03, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
* Husnock is desysopped without prejudice to his re-applying for adminship via a Request for adminship.
* Husnock is cautioned regarding improper use of alternative accounts or inappropriate postings by alter egos.
* Husnock is cautioned to conscientiously follow Misplaced Pages's ] and image copyright policies when he returns to regular editing.
* Husnock, who has been desysopped due to unblocking himself and apparently sharing the password to an administrative account with another user, is cautioned to strictly conform to Misplaced Pages policies should he again be entrusted with administrative responsibility.
*Several of the users who contributed to the discussion at ] added comments which served to inflame the situation (such as this ) rather than resolve it on mutually acceptable terms. They are encouraged to be more insightful and helpful in the future.


:::What is going on with those guys of e-pol? I crossed swords with them a while ago but I thought they were at the WTC when the 9/11, can someone brief me? ] 18:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
For the Arbitration Committee, <font color="DarkGreen">]</font><sup>]</sup> 00:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


== picture use == ==Sigh==
This is wrong. Don't let the bastards wear you down. Ignore the bogus legal threat and continue fighting the good fight. ] 21:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


== :-o No! ==
Sorry I did not know not to use fair use image in user pages, and following the deletion I instead used a non-fair use picture in wikipedia for that page, is that OK? ] 22:32, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
*The picture you used in replacement is fine. Nice job! --] 03:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


I can't believe this. I know my only contact with you was an MFD war but you were a fine contributer. ''Please'' come back!. See also: ]--] 22:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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*Glad you enjoyed :) I thought interjecting some humor might serve to lighten the mood up a bit. None of us in the little dispute are bad users or anything; we just got hung up in the "You're wrong!"/"No, YOU're wrong", "rabbit season!"/"duck season!" cycle. Needed to be broken, and walking away angry never seems like a good solution. --] 20:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


A user by the name of Durin has placed criticism on my talk page involving an oven that killed another user that I have not heard of before now. In case you are still here, I must tell you something: I did not invent User oven; I did however, use some userboxes from other user pages, which may have had hidden information that I did not see. I also do not actually remember placing "user oven" on my page. Please see my contributions or my user page history. You may be making this up.
== My RfA ==
] 23:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


==Come back==
Hey Durin,
I've seen you around the project and admired your edits. Always calm, rationale and patient! Please come back...


] ] 00:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I just would like to thank you for your support in my recent request for adminship, which passed with a final tally of 54/13/11. I appreciate the trust expressed by members of the community, and will do my best to uphold it.


== Templating the regulars ==
Naturally, I am still becoming accustomed to using the new tools, so if you have suggestions or feedback, or need anything please let me know. - ] 20:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
==reply==
I left you a reply ] about that dusty old page of mine. ] 23:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


{{{icon|] }}}Please do not withdraw from ]. Doing so violates Misplaced Pages's ] policy and impoverishes the encyclopedia. If you would like any help with anything, please use the . Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-npov2 adapted by-->----] 06:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
== The Template wars ==
:Agreed here. You're a good guy, if you need a break by all means take one, but I sure hope to see you around again. Regardless, I wish you the best. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 01:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. Your departure may be part of a ]... *sigh* -- '']']'' 23:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


== I miss Durin ==
Assuming the editor whom you have asked to build consensus actually does so, I will welcome such an act on their part. Apart from it being the lifeblood of this community we need to build it and abide by it even (perhaps especially) if we do not agree with its outcome. So I thank you for the firm line you are taking here.


Wish you could be enticed or convinced to return, Durin. Don't be griefed away. — ''']''' <sup>|''' ]'''</sup> | 06:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you know a suitable and uninvolved experienced sditor who could close the consensus attemot on the 911ct template per se? IT doe snot have to be an admin, and must be seen to be impartial. ] 23:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
*I do not believe he will be satisfied with things as they are now or are likely to conclude. I've recommended he take this to a ] as a next step. We'll see what comes of it. He obviously knows a great deal on the subject. I have no desire to push him away from the topic here; we need all viewpoints. But, the edit warring must stop. I've taken the line I have with him because he is the most egregious case of it in this matter, but he is not the only one; just the worst. Hopefully this will help resolve things. We'll see. But, this has gone on long enough without resolution and the outcomes are disruptive. --] 02:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
**I agree with you. Frankly it does not matter what the consensus is as long as there is one and we abide by it. ] 10:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


==A little late== ==Durin, we'll miss you==
He might have been a little bossy but he was a great ] and I was little disrespectful to him. Durin if you are reading this don't listen to those legal-threating bastards. All of us miss you! Don't listen to those gay pricks! Sorry about the ]. And I hope that by you reading this message <nowiki>*</nowiki><sup>sniffle</sup><nowiki>*</nowiki>, you'll come back!--] 21:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I can't see what you removed. Using history I can't tell. It's OK if it was for a good reason, just tell me why and what you removed.<br> ]</font><font color="red"><sup>]</font></sup> 03:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
*Have a look at edit. I removed the image ] from your userpage. This is a fair use image and may not be used on userpages per ] item #9. --] 13:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


== You did the right thing ==
== ] ==
I read your farewell essay. I'm really sorry that you and those you care about have had bad experiences with litigation, but I have to agree with everyone else here that you shouldn't worry about it. I'd be surprised if anyone actually tried to pursue legal action against you. That being said, I think you made the right decision to leave Misplaced Pages. There was a time when I was in the bandwagon against you, angry about your crusade against images (although, thankfully, I never acted against you). After a time, I came to wonder why you were doing all the scutwork for administrators that wouldn't support you. I was glad to read that you thought about it, too.
I need assistance changing my username from 'Kerlin Gallery' to 'info'...can you help me. --] 14:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
*This is what you need to do; log in as ], go to ] and follow the instructions. That's all. --] 14:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


It's nice that Misplaced Pages has lofty ideals about free content, but I believe that it's a better, more useful encyclopedia with the fair use images. The fact that nobody has yet taken legal action against Misplaced Pages for the use of these images (according to one of you old talk pages, I believe), does not prove that it will never happen. It is, however, a good indicator that it's very unlikely to happen, and I still believe that the enforcers of this unfortunate Misplaced Pages policy are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
== ] ==


Regardless, they are clearly not serious about enforcing their policies, and I respect your decision not to put yourself through hell for them any longer. I suggest you find a project that cares as much about you as you do about it. I have faith that you'll find it and I wish you the very best of luck.
I have created a new image for the OA templates - ] and ]. --] 18:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
*I saw, quite a few days ago :) I don't care what happens to the image I uploaded. It was the one and only time I created a substitute for a fair use image that I removed from a template. Nobody was ever really satisfied with that image, and I expected it to eventually be replaced anyways. --] 20:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


P.S. Don't sweat the legal crap. The ball's in their court and there's no sense in you worrying about something that will probably never happen and that you have little control over at this point. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Myself as a albums wikiprojects ==


== Codelyoko193 ==
Hi,


I know you might not remember me, and you most likely won't read this, but you removed fair use from my userpage. I then gave you my special award. Goodbye, and farewell. Thanks, ] <sub>]</sub> 18:58, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
For some reason i have been blocked from editing completely everything on wikipedia. I have been a member for over a year now and feel that it is very unfair that i am blocked. Is there any chance thet i can get unbloked? Thank you. ] 12:37, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
*You haven't been blocked. When you are blocked, the only things you can edit are your talk page and your userpage. Since you posted here, on my talk page, you have not been blocked. I checked your block log as well at , and you've never been blocked. What problems in particular are you experiencing in editing? Also, you had two ] tagged images on your userpage. I removed them as they are not allowed to exist on your userpage per ] item #9. --] 13:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


:It seems as though he made two edits on October 5th. Hm... '''Thanks''', ] <sub>]</sub>] 00:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
== User Name Change ==
Hello. I wish to change my user name. On the "Changing Username" wiki page it says specifically to not "copy the format of the last request on the page" but to use the template. So I hope the following is the right way to do it, since I really don't want to anger any admin:


== Who knew? ==
=== Stop_The_Lies → Maîtresse ===
* Current name: ] (] <small>•</small> ])
* Requested name: ()
* Reason: Current user name attacked as trying to impose 'propaganda' & discredit others' contributions, also, current user name made as angry response to an article. -- ] 00:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies


Hey, Durin. You most likely have no idea who I am, but after reading your reason for departure, I had to leave a note of support on your talk page. The actions by the antagonist were horribly idiotic (for lack of a better term), and taking legal action against you was unjustified. I don't see what illegal actions you did, all you did was notify the user of the law of the land (in this case, the land is Misplaced Pages), and even if in some way the images were donated to a "foundation for children," why would legal action be necessary? And anyway, if she were to take legal action, why would it be against you? What if I was the one that notified her of the images? Would I be the target of legal action? Shouldn't she be suing Misplaced Pages, if suing at all? What I'm trying to say is, why did you retire because of legal action? As far as I know (and, I've gotta admit, I'm not a lawyer, so steer me in the right direction about this whole matter if I'm wrong), you did nothing illegal. I just thought I had to leave this message because I felt that the antagonist had no right to steer you into retirement. Regards, <small>'']''</small>''']''' 01:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Is that a proper request? Thank you so much for your time! ] 00:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies
:''P.S.'', I hope no one sees me calling the aforementioned user an antagonist as a personal attack, because it's not. It's just my version of a joke.
:*The request looks properly formatted. Now all you need to do is post it to ]. --] 02:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


== Question: ==


Please, about placing photo substituting of Angelina Jolie on my User page. --] 19:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
*And your question is...? Also, I removed a fair use image (]) from your userpage per ] item #9. --] 19:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Can you placing photo substituting of Angelina Jolie on my User page?--] 18:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
*No. --] 04:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Why?? It is absurd! {{unsigned|Mahal11|00:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)}}
*Because while some users are happy to help others design their userpages, I prefer to focus my efforts elsewhere. I'm sure if there are ] images of her available that you will find them and be able to place them on your userpage. --] 01:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


== Almost ready == ==Husnock==


Durin, I'm going to tell Husnock/OberRanks to stop uploading and editing images on pain of blocking. Hopefully, he will do so. If he refuses, I will indef him myself. I don't give a darn if he keeps insisting he's not Husnock, it is painfully apparent to everyone that he is. It's probably best to just ignore his protests about that. If he wishes to edit, he can edit text only. ]&nbsp;] 17:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi there: I've answered the questions. I'm not quite ready to transclude it yet (want to give it at least one more read through) but thought maybe you might also want to check it over and see if I've made any egregious errors or if anything looks less than good. Thanks so much for the detailed and thorough nomination! ] 20:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
*Looks good with two exceptions: 1) Don't forget to accept the nomination. 2) Minor correction in wording on the third question. Change "try simply ignore this" to "try to simply ignore this". When you do transclude, don't forget to update the time stamp on the RfA to be equivalent to when you transcluded it to WP:RFA. Looks great otherwise. --] 20:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
**It's done. I had panned to accept the nomination as the last thing before transcluding. Anyway, it's live now. Let's see what happens. ] 21:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


== fair-use or no? == == Shhh... ==


<small>Aloha and welcome back... in whatever limited form it may be. Please try and not let the fairusabusers get you down. You're important to the freedom (freedomness?) of the project. Mahalo. --] 15:43, 16 October 2007 (UTC)</small>
In the article on ] there is no fair-use image introducing the article (i.e. in the infobox), but accompanying each paragraph describing specific characters he has portrayed, there is a fair-use image of the character accompanying. I question the validity of that fair-use claim since there is nothing significant about his portrayal of those characters that would require a specific image, i.e. he doesn't look particularly different, nor do the images convey anything particularly unusual about his portrayal -- effectively, just how he looks. What's your thoughs on this? — ''']''' <sup>|''' ]'''</sup> | 20:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
==Orphaned non-free media (Image:Demologoimage.gif)==
*It's overkill. A depiction of his appearance in each movie on that movie's page would be fine, but not all over this article. --] 20:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Coat of Arms ==


== Long ago comments ==
You removed the coat of arms of Canada from the ]. I understand why. What I would like to bring to question is why then is it alright to put it on ]? &#8594; ] {] | ]} 03:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
*Because that coat of arms image does not actually exist on the template. When that template is invoked, it is called with the image such that it appears on the article where it is invoked, but does not appear on the template. Appearing on the template is not permitted. Appearing on the article is fine. Does that help explain? --] 04:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:It does! Thanks for clearing up!:) &#8594; ] {] | ]} 17:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:*Happy to help :) --] 17:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


Hi Durin. I saw your comments over at the Arbcom request page, so hopefully you are still around to see this. I just wanted to thank you again for the long ago comments you made on my talk page about how I should accept an RfA nomination. It took a while, but I eventually did go for it, and I linked to your comments in my statement there. I'm still practicing with the tools before I start using them properly, but it was really your comments (along with some others later) that made me realise that I was procrastinating too much. Hope to see you around more in the future. ] 11:22, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
== Hi ==


I love you. ] 03:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


==List of Misplaced Pages editors by edit count==
How old are you and what's your name? ]


Please explain what the 'problem' with listing the edit count of 'placeholder' is...
== Image:UDaytonLogo.jpg ==
This image really isn't orphaned. It is used in the <nowiki>{{user UD}}</nowiki> template: {{user UD}}. {{unsigned|JonathonReinhart|17:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)}}
<br clear=all />
*It is orphaned because a fair use image ''must'' be used in a main namespace article in order not to be orphaned. Templates, userpages, project space, etc do not count towards this. The image is also a replica of ], which is used on the ] article. If you have questions about this, I'd be happy to help. --] 17:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
**Gotcha - I didn't realize that image was on ] - Do you think you could help fix that template? I'm not really good at that, and I just copied it from another Userbox. Now the image is too big, and the whole template looks like crap. You can go ahead and delete the image I uploaded. {{unsigned|JonathonReinhart|17:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)}}
***I do not fix userboxes as a general rule. I just remove fair use images violations from them. I'll go ahead and delete the image. --] 17:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
**Ok, I am all for having proper licensing for everything on Misplaced Pages. How can I go about getting a properly licensed image for the userbox? Several other of my friends from UD also contribute to wikipedia and I want them to have a nice userbox with our logo. Should I see if one can be released to public domain? or is there another license that applies to the userboxes? {{unsigned|JonathonReinhart|17:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)}}
***There are two basic types of images at Misplaced Pages; those available under a ] and those that are copyrighted and used here under terms of ]. We try to limit the amount of fair use images used as they are problematic with regards to copyright. You can try contacting University of Dayton to gain release of their logo(s) under a free license, but it is very unlikely they would make such a release. Thus, any official logo for UD is not going to be allowed in the userbox. For alternatives, see what people have done with university userboxes at ]. --] 17:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


Also, I thought you were 'retired' but I guess not...] 18:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
==CD template==
*I'm not going to endlessly debate this. I've stated my reasons a bunch of times. You are not respecting the wishes of the people who do not want to be on this list. Hell, you even forced ME back on the list. You're not even following the instructions on the list. Back off. --] 18:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
You do realize the template is just name after the article right? ], notice its not called CT ... It seems your comments in reply to me were assumnig bad faith. --]<s>]</s> 19:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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*I think you're assuming bad faith on my part :) Of course I realize what you're saying above. I still see this as an ongoing dispute over whether to call it a conspiracy theory or hypothesis. Regardless of the outcome of that debate, there should be ''one'' template, not two. --] 19:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Fair use image use ==
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I did not upload the images. I found them on other pages within wikipedia. --] 20:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
: {{tl|not orphan}}? — ''']''' <sup>|''' ]'''</sup> | 18:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
: for example you removed this ], however if you looked here ] the image is still there. I hope you know what your doing. --] 20:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:: here is another ]. So why is ok on the one page but not my ]? --] 20:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
*It is acceptable for a copyrighted image to appear on an ''article'' if it contributes significantly to the article. It is not acceptable for it to appear on a ''template''. I removed the images you added to the templates. I did not touch any articles in removing those images. Per our policies at ] item #9, copyrighted images may not be used on templates. Does that help clarify? --] 21:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Crystal ty. --] 21:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


== Limited licenses == == Still here? ==


You are still in wikipedia? lol i tought u have retired.-Wandering wikipedian-] 01:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
You may be interested to know that a user recreated ]. I tagged it with {{]}} with intent to nominate it for deletion, then reverted when I realized how confusing the contemporary circumstances were. Do you consider it appropriate to delete? If so, on what rationale? Also, please note ]. I would like to nominate them because they are blank and unnecessary. I would, however, support redirecting the template to the appropriate non-free license. I would appreciate your thoughts (and insight from deleted pages). Regards, ] 05:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
==Orphaned non-free media (Image:Demologoimage.gif)==
*The history behind it is that an organization (I think, not sure, it was National Geographic) permitted Misplaced Pages to use some images under a limited license. Brad Patrick set up the agreement with them. The images were used for a time, and then became unused. I happened across them, contacted various parties involved, and deleted the images and the template. Later, the template was re-created as a honeypot; it's a trap. If an image is tagged with that license tag, it automatically puts it up for speedy deletion. I don't think there are image currently using the tag. I've deleted the associated category. --] 15:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
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**Do you think its a good idea to put the template in ''Category:Image copyright tags'' and also an includeonly-category to include it in some speedy deletion category? --] 07:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
***If you like. I don't see the harm from that. Personally, I don't like the idea of the honey pot to set up a trap for users. This is a negative process, not a positive one. I'd rather we take great effort to educate users on acceptable media, and only take negative steps in regards to users who willfully violate our policies. A trap creates a negative environment. --] 13:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
****I agree, to some degree; what I would like to do is redirect to a speedy deletion tag, which could arguably still be considered a honeypot trap, but which I think is less negative than the current process. --] 17:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


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== Those links at ] ==


== :-) ==
Hey there. I just wanted to thank you (and indirectly Kim) for the links you posted in the discussion at ]. Well, I had to turn the Dunbar's Number one blue by creating a redirect, and I had to correct a typo in the external link to the "Own Worst Enemy" essay, but once I got there, both were fascinating reading. I particularly liked ''"Bion was a psychologist who was doing group therapy with groups of neurotics. (Drawing parallels between that and the Internet is left as an exercise for the reader.)"'' (and on a personal note, ignoring the obligatory typo of the name, ''"Go onto a Tolkein newsgroup or discussion forum, and try saying "You know, The Two Towers is a little dull. I mean loooong. We didn't need that much description about the forest, because it's pretty much the same forest all the way."''), plus ''"And the adults who had set up Communitree were horrified, and overrun by these students. The place that was founded on open access had too much open access, too much openness. They couldn't defend themselves against their own users. The place that was founded on free speech had too much freedom. They had no way of saying "No, that's not the kind of free speech we meant.""'' etc, etc. But the really, really scary bit is this:<blockquote>"This pattern has happened over and over and over again. Someone built the system, they assumed certain user behaviors. The users came on and exhibited different behaviors. And the people running the system discovered to their horror that the technological and social issues could not in fact be decoupled."</blockquote>
And then there is ''"As a group commits to its existence as a group, and begins to think that the group is good or important, the chance that they will begin to call for additional structure, in order to defend themselves from themselves, gets very, very high."'' and (worth bolding) '''"the dense, interconnected pattern that drives group conversation and collaboration isn't supportable at any large scale"''' and, oh wow: ''"We had every bit of technology we needed to do weblogs the day Mosaic launched the first forms-capable browser. Every single piece of it was right there. Instead, we got Geocities. Why did we get Geocities and not weblogs? We didn't know what we were doing."'' - makes me wonder if Misplaced Pages will end up in the Geocities dustbin of history? And then, this kind of thing: ''"Samuel Pepys' diaries of the 1660's turned into a weblog form, with a new post every day from Pepys' diary"'' - that sounds amazing. And the combined conference call/chat/wiki model sounds like it could work well once people get used to it. And then I came across another very relevant bit: ''"in all successful online communities that I've looked at, a core group arises that cares about and gardens effectively. Gardens the environment, to keep it growing, to keep it healthy."'' And then this bit reminded me of the trust issues at RfA (or in general on Misplaced Pages): ''"Almost all the work being done on reputation systems today is either trivial or useless or both, because reputations aren't linearizable, and they're not portable."'' and ''" Users have to be able to identify themselves and there has to be a penalty for switching handles."'' (aha, so that is why the Misplaced Pages software has an contributions log built in - penalty for losing the handle...). ''"When we start seeing effects of scale, we shut off the new user page."'' - hmm, would that fly here on Misplaced Pages? Anyway, I've quoted far too much, but I really enjoyed reading that, and it is one of those links that I will now e-mail to loads of different people. I have a few years experience of Usenet, and now of Misplaced Pages, and so many of the points made in that essay resonate with me. Thanks again for pointing it out. Maybe you might want to repost it at ] and other places, in case people missed it first time round? ] 00:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
*It's a fascinating read. Like you, I found a number of quotes that directly correlated to Misplaced Pages and RfA. I spent a number of years on Usenet myself, and much of what the author says resonates with me as well. I posted it at WT:RFA just now. For the people who read it in full, it will have a significant impact. Reality is most Internet users do not spend significant time reading things in depth. Books are linear, and the Internet is not. Plus, people read black text on white background on a computer screen 25% slower than the same on paper (this gets worse as contrast between the text and background goes down, if web pages have other color settings). Getting someone to read an essay on the Internet that is that long is hard. At the core of this is human behavior and how we interact in large groups. --] 14:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


Good to see you around, if only for a little bit. :-) --] 06:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
== A thought I wanted to bounce off of you. ==


* "''Frankly, I can't believe I am getting this much grief for stating a position with respect to this candidate''" - unless you've been monitoring RfAs recently, you have no idea how aggressive everyone has gotten. :-( Well, I guess you do, since you are now experiencing it first hand! But still... :-\ --] 21:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I wonder how much the increase in actions per an admin has been due to the fact that admin tools now have more flexibility and thus admins have more opportunities to use them. In particular, the increase in number of admin actions per an admin occured when two major additions were added: the ability to semi-protect and the ability to block anon's only on an IP. I'm curious as to what you think about this. ] 19:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


== New York Yankees logo ==
: Thinking about this more, it might explain part of what has gone on but almost certainly doesn't account for all of the increase. ] 20:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


I've started a discussion about this at ] - I was going to notify you, but saw the retired tag and didn't realize you were actually still active; I didn't notice until just now that you were the one that tagged ]. —] 22:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
== Admin stats ==
Hi Durin. I know you've been doing a lot of research into requests for adminship, and I believe you are aware of my own stats page (]). Since I have probably conflicted with your own work, do you think it is worth me carrying on? I'd rather not be wasting my time if someone else is doing the exact same work. --''']''' <sub>]</sub> 19:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
*I've been pondering this myself. Have a look at ] (feel free to cull data from that if you like). That's not all the data I have. I have data from June 2005 through near current, and also from June to September 2003. I'd like to fill in the 2003-2005 gap.
*The differences in our work are negligible except that I include failed RfAs and your work does not. Your data is easier to come by, as the number of promotions are a subset of the overall nominations and (the hard part) you don't have to go step by step through RfA to track what RfAs have been made. I'll be frank, it's a royal pain in the tookus to walk through each and every edit to WP:RFA to get information on every RfA that is put forth. It takes about an hour, at current nomination rates, to run through about 10 days worth of RfA. Uhg. I wish there were a better way, but I don't know what that might be for the reason that not all RfAs make it to the unsuccessful list (or even all successful RfAs making it to successful list for that matter! :)).
*Ah, I've just stumbled across a thought pattern... (oddly, they happen from time to time in my brain :)). I think you'll like this, and the work you are already doing would work perfectly within this. Let me get back to you. Watch my edits, as I think I'll be working on this shortly. Feel free to chime in as it develops... --] 20:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:*Ok, have a look at ]. Please do not populate ]; I'm going to dump all of my data into it, which is a superset of yours (at least through mid-January 2007). --] 20:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::*So are you still watching this page? ] 19:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::*Yes, I am. I just haven't had a large block of time yet :) --] 19:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


== Omma miss ya ==
== I added my own image Template:User Melbourne High school ==


You're one of the few admins who had the whole adminship thing right. :( ] (]) 17:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I have created my own logo, please see if it suitable. Ajindustries 23:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
*Thank you! --] (]) 14:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


== RfA thanks == ==Review of Fair Use pictures==
Are you still around? If yes, could you please review the apparently non-free images in the article ]. I'm talking at the black and white pictures in the ''clearance'' section. I'm not sure about what policy covers these or where to go to have them reviewed. --] (]) 17:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


==Thank you==
Well, now that it's over, it's time for me to thank my nomintor for writing such a solid and thorough nomination for me. It clearly took a lot of time to review me in such detail, and for that I am quite thankful. Indeed, comments from certain users make it clear to me that your nomination garnered me a fair bit of support. Well, I mean to continue working on using the tools as well as I can to make Misplaced Pages better. If you have any comments on my performance as an administrator, I'd be glad to hear them. Thanks again for the excellent nomination! ] 02:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I just came to visit my old friend, Durin, to find out that he quit Misplaced Pages! I'm sad, because although the first time I met you on Misplaced Pages, I thought you were unfriendly for removing my images, I got to know you, and you're a really nice guy. I hope you decide to join Misplaced Pages again. Cheers always. :) --]]] 17:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
*You're quite welcome! It was a pleasure to do. I'm sure you'll do quite well as an admin. --] 03:02, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
==rollback==
has been ] to you (now live for non-admins), as an encouragement to edit here more ;). ] 19:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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== Sorry Mhs.png Ajindustries ==


== Replaceable fair use Image:LittoralCombatShip-ArtistsRendering.jpg ==
I thought that if i created a similiar work i would be able to use it in my user box. I believe that this image is better than the non coloured for the main space ] article.
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Thanks for the tips and the warnings. Durin
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# Go to ] and edit it to add {{tlx|di-replaceable fair use disputed}}, '''without deleting the original replaceable fair use template'''.
Ajindustries 08:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
# On ], write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.


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== New logo for my user box. ==


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What happens if I use a smaller logo inside another image of writing, am i allowed to use that on non main space posts. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 08:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
*Wherever the logo is used, the original copyright holder retains rights. --] 13:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


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== Asking nicely ==
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You've said some very nasty things to me and made some serious charges. I'm asking one more time that you leave me alone. I have reviewed this website's policies and you having a private opinion about me doesnt give you the right to write negative things about me or remove things from my user page. I also am telling you again that I am not Husnock and do not accept that you have ever been able to prove that. Please just leave me alone. Thank you. -] 18:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


==Orphaned non-free media (Image:CityofBloomingtonSeal.gif)==
==Python logo and userboxes==
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The python logo i uploaded is already in use, on the page for ]. It is just the logo, without the word "python" on its side like you can see on the page about it. I find it strange the logo and word together would be allowed, whereas the logo only makes copyright troubles. I didn't understand why you deleted the images on some other userboxes. These images were all used on Misplaced Pages pages... I guess i didn't get yet what was allowed or not in userboxes, and i'd be glad you helped me a little with that. It's not that i care that much about having userboxes on my user page, i just found they look neat, and help others to get a quick idea on what subjects i can help about... ] 11:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
*The use of fair use images, such as the Python logo, is permissible on actual articles of Misplaced Pages such as ]. As described in our policy at ] item #9, we do not permit the use of such images outside of the main article namespace. This includes templates such as userboxes. If you look at ], you'll see a box in the "summary" section that starts out "This is a logo...". In that box, it indicates that the image is copyrighted and the use of it here on Misplaced Pages must be under terms of fair use. Thus, it may not be used on templates. Similarly, the logo without the word "python" (]) may not be used on templates either. I hope that helps. If you have more questions, I'd be happy to answer! Thanks, --] 14:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


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*Periodically the slave servers fall behind the master servers. Since they need to be in sync, editing is sometimes temporarily disabled. Since you were able to leave me a talk message about it, editing was re-enabled. --] 14:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


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== Not filing any complaints ==
I just wanted you to know that I'm not interested in filing any complaints against you. I did visit the Wikiquette alerts page but not to start a problem, just to get outside input since no one seemed to be responding to the conversation on the pump page. The last thing I want is a fight. The pictures you were so concerned about are gone from my page, just the one of myself and my wife remain and I am keeping that as a user photo which I am allowed under Wiki policies. Delete the others if you want. -] 15:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
*You are filing complaints. Whether you wish to call it an RfC, a Village Pump post, or a Wikiquette Alert, you are indeed filing complaints about me. It would be far better for you to start a formal RfC on the matter. I've pointed you to where to do that, and offered assistance to you to help get it going. RfCs are not fights. They are a means and method to gain consensus on contentious issues. Casting posts about on various different forums on this project is not an effective way to stay out of a fight. Conducting an RfC is. --] 16:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
My understanding of the the other page was as it says: "a streamlined way to get an outside view about possible problems with how editors are working with each other". Clearly you and I have had a possible problem and I am trying to get an outside view. Also, I couldn't start an RfC becuase it says you need two people and have to show that the problem failed to be resolved. Since the photos have already been removed/deleted, that would seem to imply the problem has been solved. That's all, good night. -] 16:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
*You wanted me to leave you alone. It'd be best if you do the same with respect to me as well. Just stop making accusations against me as you have, which have no basis in fact. That's all I ask. The image is gone and you seem to no longer have a desire to re-post it. Dispute over. --] 16:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


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The time has come that I must address your "clerking" at ]. My initial reaction was to simply leave the page be until you lost interest, however, it's become a serious problem that cannot be ignored any longer. There is a staff of pre-screened clerks who are perfectly capable of keeping the page in order, and are aware of the wishes of the bureaucrats with regard to these pages; that you have introduced new and unwanted activities to the page without consulting with any of us demonstrates my point. The clerks have expressed confusion and frustration over your continued activities there, and have begun submitting resignations due to it; the fact that they are an important part not only of CHU and CHU/U, but also RFCU, makes the resignation of the entire clerk corps over this a serious issue. For some time, I have found your activities there frustrating, but in the interests of keeping peace, have simply ignored the page, often leading to substantial delays in requests being performed; it now comes to the point where others are being put off by it, and I'm forced to request that you please find some other task to focus on. <span style="font-family: Verdana">] ]</span> 08:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
*I am utterly flabbergasted by this. My every intention in this has been to ''help'' the project, not to cause any harm to it. I ''did'' check, quite some time ago, whether there were any sort of official clerks regarding WP:CHU. There weren't, at least there was no mention of it at all on the WP:CHU or on its talk page and archives, or on ]. It was only on February 15, 2007..THIS year, THIS month that the addition was made to the instructions on front matter, and only a mention of it in the archives twice, in January 2007 and late December 2006. It is clear to me this is a breakdown in communication. A clerk corps apparently has existed for nearly two months, but only in the last two weeks was anything done to make it clear there was such a corps .
*I have been contributing to WP:CHU since September of 2006, and I will readily grant that I do not read the front matter every time I look at the page. I '''''DID''''' check to see if there was any clerk position because I saw people using "clerk note" type annotation in their postings to the page. I couldn't find anything, proven by the above, and continued my efforts. I did not consult with anyone because there wasn't a clerk corps to consult with, at least not publicly visible. I'm sorry you do not appreciate my efforts, but they were done in good faith and after carefully checking my facts...as I always do. You didn't raise this issue to me before, in our disagreement from three weeks ago, and did not ask me to stop contributing at WP:CHU at that time.
*Would you please inform me of who has resigned due to my actions? I would like to apologize to them. --] 14:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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Due to legal threats , this user left Misplaced Pages in August 2007. More information on my departure may be found at User:Durin/Departure.


Sorry

I'm terribly sorry for removing your notice, it was an accident. I was just reading through the archives, and forgot it was a past edition. Sorry about that. And I'm sorry if you don't want messages posted on this page now, but I wanted to contact you somehow! I don;t mind if you delete it again. I'm very sorry to see that you've left, and thankyou for your contributions. Good luck in life my friend, and sorry about my mistake before. Lradrama 18:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

:-(

Sorry to see you go, Durin. I've seen nominal legal threats before, but I've never seen a note of pending litigation. How appalling. I was wondering when you might slow down editing (in relation to your earlier comments regarding lack of desire to edit), but I didn't realize it would close so quickly.  :(

Best wishes in whatever endeavours you pursue. --Iamunknown 18:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You're one of the best, and have been enormously useful to Misplaced Pages. I'm terribly sorry to see this, and hope somehow that it will be sorted out. Good luck, and thank you for always answering my questions so patiently and helpfully. ElinorD (talk) 18:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
What a nasty way to end an otherwise fine wiki-career. I know you'd been telling me for months you'd been on the brink of leaving, but I always thought you'd stay anyway. This is just... horrible. My second friend to leave Misplaced Pages in 3 days :( Majorly (talk) 18:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Seriously? Right when I was about to join Durin's Fair Use Army full-time?!?! E kala mai. A hui hou, Durin. --Ali'i 18:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone still has to do the job. Majorly (talk) 18:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
More like 10 people to equal the quality output Durin was creating. :-) But hopefully this is just a minor, temporary thing, and Durin will return shortly. --Ali'i 18:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • There's a slim chance I will return, but it's a Michael Jordan-esque "That 1% is for me and you can't have it". I'm in contact with the people who are prosecuting this investigation. Pending outcome of that, I *might* return. But, Majorly is right. I've been pondering leaving for a while for a variety of reasons. This isn't the final straw; that analogy is incorrect. It's more like the impact event theorized for the Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event. It is astonishing to me that someone would go to such lengths over a handful of images. It's not worth it to me. I am a volunteer here. To put myself in the line of fire for lawsuits over images that I didn't create, didn't copy, didn't publish and didn't use is absurd. Frankly, and bluntly, I'm tired. I've been under near constant onslaught of all sorts of very nasty wikipedians who work arduously to bring me down simply because I uphold the Foundation's directives and this local project's policies. Everybody has their tolerance limit. I was near it before this event. This event easily doubled how much crap I have to tolerate, and I'm now well beyond my limit. The bastards won. I've just checked my e-mail from e-pol.org, and sure enough I'm part of the investigation. Absolutely unreal. God help you all that work to uphold your policies. These people will stop at nothing to have their way. --Durin 19:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Still, what will they get out of it? At least you can claim you've made an online encyclopedia a better place for everyone. Lradrama 19:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
You took the words right out of everyone's mouth there mate. Lradrama 19:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Ali'i nailed it...I've only been in contact with you for a few days, Durin, but you've been an excellent source of info and decently rational discussion about the image removal process, and I'll miss your input. Keep us posted on how this process goes. Best wishes to you. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Well that sucks. Do I have to assume that your offer to have a couple of beers and punch each other in the face is also off the table? At least consider coming back for doing a bit of editing: just like Jordan, you'll eventually miss the game as much as the game misses you. In the meantime, take care. Pascal.Tesson 21:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I'm so very sorry to see you go. Best wishes in this & everything else. Pete.Hurd 21:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
    • I'm sorry if it has to end this way, Durin. I certainly hope that you will return if this is settled. Out of all the people I have come into conflict with here on Misplaced Pages, you are the most civil and patient by far. Here's to hoping everything turns out alright! Regards, You Can't Review Me!!! 23:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Not right

This sucks. Hope you will be back soon. This "e-pol" stuff really doesn't sound right to me. I've never heard of e-pol. I tried finding out more on Google, but found nothing but their own website. There are virtually no backward links to e-pol.org. I looked at the whois information, and it doesn't seem right to me. I have doubts about e-pol, and recommend you do not give e-pol any information. Also, the fact that Danna's first contributions were so recent, on August 22. The first edit was to a wikiproject page, the next to create their userpage, and the following to create their talk page. Smells like a duck, walks like a duck... This just doesn't sound right. --Aude (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

E-pol.org calls themselves "Electronic Protection Online Programme" or Electronic - Protection Online Programme" with the hyphen. Searching Google for "Protection Online Programme" and spelling variations turns up nothing. Zero results. If this was legit, even if some aspects of what they do are secret and confidential, there would still be something about it on Google. This definitely doesn't seem right to me. --Aude (talk) 21:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Nor me, but the complainant bringing this is obviously quite energized and willing to go to unreal lengths in their aggression against me. --Durin 21:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • From what I can tell, E-POL's activities seem to be limited to sending you that e-mail, and having a website. Nothing else. DS 23:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  • The e-pol website is really quite creepy. If you click on the log tab it gives you a message that reads "Your IP and computer ID have now been logged". Wha??!! I didn't consent to that... Seriously something creepy about that website. I can see why this would make someone want to retire. Seraphim 01:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Your IP is logged on Misplaced Pages and can be checked through RFCU in case of abuse, it's no different here. Anytime you go to a site, you consend to letting them know your IP unless your using TOR, or something else. — Moe ε 01:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I was aware of that your IP is recorded with every website but I wasn't aware it recorded your computer ID, *stupid moment* . I guess it's also the manner in which the message reads to be honest. When added with the claims of "We can trace you precisely" and that kind of message that they are giving out about legal action, it's creepy. Seraphim 12:03, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
What is going on with those guys of e-pol? I crossed swords with them a while ago but I thought they were at the WTC when the 9/11, can someone brief me? Meteoguy 18:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Sigh

This is wrong. Don't let the bastards wear you down. Ignore the bogus legal threat and continue fighting the good fight. Corvus cornix 21:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

:-o No!

I can't believe this. I know my only contact with you was an MFD war but you were a fine contributer. Please come back!. See also: User:Pheonix15/Useful links/Retired Wikipedians--Pheonix15 22:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

astroview120mm userboxes

A user by the name of Durin has placed criticism on my talk page involving an oven that killed another user that I have not heard of before now. In case you are still here, I must tell you something: I did not invent User oven; I did however, use some userboxes from other user pages, which may have had hidden information that I did not see. I also do not actually remember placing "user oven" on my page. Please see my contributions or my user page history. You may be making this up. Astroview120mm 23:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Come back

I've seen you around the project and admired your edits. Always calm, rationale and patient! Please come back...

Seraphim 00:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Templating the regulars

Please do not withdraw from building the encyclopedia. Doing so violates Misplaced Pages's don't let the bastards grind you down policy and impoverishes the encyclopedia. If you would like any help with anything, please use the secret channel. Thank you.----John 06:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed here. You're a good guy, if you need a break by all means take one, but I sure hope to see you around again. Regardless, I wish you the best. Seraphimblade 01:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Your departure may be part of a virtuous (or vicious) circle... *sigh* -- nae'blis 23:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I miss Durin

Wish you could be enticed or convinced to return, Durin. Don't be griefed away. — pd_THOR | 06:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Durin, we'll miss you

He might have been a little bossy but he was a great wikipedian and I was little disrespectful to him. Durin if you are reading this don't listen to those legal-threating bastards. All of us miss you! Don't listen to those gay pricks! Sorry about the bad word. And I hope that by you reading this message **, you'll come back!--Angel David 21:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

You did the right thing

I read your farewell essay. I'm really sorry that you and those you care about have had bad experiences with litigation, but I have to agree with everyone else here that you shouldn't worry about it. I'd be surprised if anyone actually tried to pursue legal action against you. That being said, I think you made the right decision to leave Misplaced Pages. There was a time when I was in the bandwagon against you, angry about your crusade against images (although, thankfully, I never acted against you). After a time, I came to wonder why you were doing all the scutwork for administrators that wouldn't support you. I was glad to read that you thought about it, too.

It's nice that Misplaced Pages has lofty ideals about free content, but I believe that it's a better, more useful encyclopedia with the fair use images. The fact that nobody has yet taken legal action against Misplaced Pages for the use of these images (according to one of you old talk pages, I believe), does not prove that it will never happen. It is, however, a good indicator that it's very unlikely to happen, and I still believe that the enforcers of this unfortunate Misplaced Pages policy are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Regardless, they are clearly not serious about enforcing their policies, and I respect your decision not to put yourself through hell for them any longer. I suggest you find a project that cares as much about you as you do about it. I have faith that you'll find it and I wish you the very best of luck.

P.S. Don't sweat the legal crap. The ball's in their court and there's no sense in you worrying about something that will probably never happen and that you have little control over at this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.107.37.211 (talk) 20:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Codelyoko193

I know you might not remember me, and you most likely won't read this, but you removed fair use from my userpage. I then gave you my special award. Goodbye, and farewell. Thanks, Codelyoko193 Talk 18:58, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems as though he made two edits on October 5th. Hm... Thanks, Codelyoko193 Talk Contributions 00:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Who knew?

Hey, Durin. You most likely have no idea who I am, but after reading your reason for departure, I had to leave a note of support on your talk page. The actions by the antagonist were horribly idiotic (for lack of a better term), and taking legal action against you was unjustified. I don't see what illegal actions you did, all you did was notify the user of the law of the land (in this case, the land is Misplaced Pages), and even if in some way the images were donated to a "foundation for children," why would legal action be necessary? And anyway, if she were to take legal action, why would it be against you? What if I was the one that notified her of the images? Would I be the target of legal action? Shouldn't she be suing Misplaced Pages, if suing at all? What I'm trying to say is, why did you retire because of legal action? As far as I know (and, I've gotta admit, I'm not a lawyer, so steer me in the right direction about this whole matter if I'm wrong), you did nothing illegal. I just thought I had to leave this message because I felt that the antagonist had no right to steer you into retirement. Regards, IT'S DA...Ανέκδοτο 01:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S., I hope no one sees me calling the aforementioned user an antagonist as a personal attack, because it's not. It's just my version of a joke.


Husnock

Durin, I'm going to tell Husnock/OberRanks to stop uploading and editing images on pain of blocking. Hopefully, he will do so. If he refuses, I will indef him myself. I don't give a darn if he keeps insisting he's not Husnock, it is painfully apparent to everyone that he is. It's probably best to just ignore his protests about that. If he wishes to edit, he can edit text only. Neil ☎ 17:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Shhh...

Aloha and welcome back... in whatever limited form it may be. Please try and not let the fairusabusers get you down. You're important to the freedom (freedomness?) of the project. Mahalo. --Ali'i 15:43, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Long ago comments

Hi Durin. I saw your comments over at the Arbcom request page, so hopefully you are still around to see this. I just wanted to thank you again for the long ago comments you made on my talk page about how I should accept an RfA nomination. It took a while, but I eventually did go for it, and I linked to your comments in my statement there. I'm still practicing with the tools before I start using them properly, but it was really your comments (along with some others later) that made me realise that I was procrastinating too much. Hope to see you around more in the future. Carcharoth 11:22, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


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Please explain what the 'problem' with listing the edit count of 'placeholder' is...

Also, I thought you were 'retired' but I guess not...Ryoung122 18:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

  • I'm not going to endlessly debate this. I've stated my reasons a bunch of times. You are not respecting the wishes of the people who do not want to be on this list. Hell, you even forced ME back on the list. You're not even following the instructions on the list. Back off. --Durin 18:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

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Still here?

You are still in wikipedia? lol i tought u have retired.-Wandering wikipedian-130.216.30.233 01:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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:-)

Good to see you around, if only for a little bit.  :-) --Iamunknown 06:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

  • "Frankly, I can't believe I am getting this much grief for stating a position with respect to this candidate" (diff) - unless you've been monitoring RfAs recently, you have no idea how aggressive everyone has gotten.  :-( Well, I guess you do, since you are now experiencing it first hand! But still...  :-\ --Iamunknown 21:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

New York Yankees logo

I've started a discussion about this at WP:MCQ#New York Yankees logo - I was going to notify you, but saw the retired tag and didn't realize you were actually still active; I didn't notice until just now that you were the one that tagged Image:Crossed_N_and_Y.jpg. —Random832 22:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Omma miss ya

You're one of the few admins who had the whole adminship thing right. :( Vael Victus (talk) 17:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Review of Fair Use pictures

Are you still around? If yes, could you please review the apparently non-free images in the article Ungdomshuset. I'm talking at the black and white pictures in the clearance section. I'm not sure about what policy covers these or where to go to have them reviewed. --Peter Andersen (talk) 17:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

I just came to visit my old friend, Durin, to find out that he quit Misplaced Pages! I'm sad, because although the first time I met you on Misplaced Pages, I thought you were unfriendly for removing my images, I got to know you, and you're a really nice guy. I hope you decide to join Misplaced Pages again. Cheers always. :) --Cuyler91093minhas contribuções 17:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

rollback

has been given back to you (now live for non-admins), as an encouragement to edit here more ;). NoSeptember 19:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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