Misplaced Pages

User talk:C.Fred: Difference between revisions

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 05:47, 4 September 2022 editLacimoore1 (talk | contribs)6 edits →Boaters: new sectionTag: New topic← Previous edit Latest revision as of 04:33, 15 January 2025 edit undoC.Fred (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Administrators278,032 edits Undid revision 1269532152 by CollectiveWest (talk) - redundantTag: Undo 
Line 6: Line 6:
** If you leave me a message here, I will reply here and {{tl|Mention}} you here or leave a {{tl|Talkback}} template on your talk page, unless you indicate that you are watching my page or no talkback message is necessary. ** If you leave me a message here, I will reply here and {{tl|Mention}} you here or leave a {{tl|Talkback}} template on your talk page, unless you indicate that you are watching my page or no talkback message is necessary.
** '''If you are responding to a message I left on your talk page, please reply there''' so the discussion stays in one place. Please {{tl|Mention}} me in the message there or leave a {{tl|Talkback}} template here so I know about the message, unless I indicate that no talkback is necessary in my message. ''If you are commenting here on a message or warning I left there, don't be surprised if I move the discussion back to your talk page.'' ** '''If you are responding to a message I left on your talk page, please reply there''' so the discussion stays in one place. Please {{tl|Mention}} me in the message there or leave a {{tl|Talkback}} template here so I know about the message, unless I indicate that no talkback is necessary in my message. ''If you are commenting here on a message or warning I left there, don't be surprised if I move the discussion back to your talk page.''
* This page is set for automatic archiving every 7 days. I will remove talkback messages as acknowledgment that I have read the related reply, and I reserve the right to summarily remove any uncivil comments. * This page is set for automatic archiving every 7 days. I will remove talkback messages as acknowledgment that I have read the related reply, and I reserve the right to summarily remove any uncivil comments or frivolous warnings.
Thank you, and happy editing! Thank you, and happy editing!
}} }}
Line 12: Line 12:
{{User:MiszaBot/config {{User:MiszaBot/config
|maxarchivesize = 200K |maxarchivesize = 200K
|counter = 30 |counter = 32
|algo = old(7d) |algo = old(7d)
|archive = User talk:C.Fred/Archive %(counter)d |archive = User talk:C.Fred/Archive %(counter)d
Line 19: Line 19:
<!-- End of headings, but please add comments to the bottom of the page, or use the New Section tab on the toolbar --> <!-- End of headings, but please add comments to the bottom of the page, or use the New Section tab on the toolbar -->


== Regarding Al-Bukhari. ==
== How would you feel if I applied indef EC on Sidhu Moose Wala ==


Hello threre, regarding my edits on '''Al-Bukhari''' article, first of all i am not the one who started this editing war. hence i am not sure why you're reverting my changes. the matter of the fact is that the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. so what's the problem here? ] (]) 17:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Such has been suggested at RFPP and it seems to meet the criteria. Thought I'd ask somebody familiar with the ground. I'm wary of indeffing anything, but since the page is already indef semi... ] (]) 16:55, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
:You not being handy in the moment, I split the infant and applied one year EC with a note in the log to revert this back to indef semi if EC is not required or desired. ] (]) 17:42, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|BusterD}} I guess we can also see what happens over the next year and after: if the protection needs upgraded further, or if the EC needs to be indef. —''']''' (]) 20:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)


:@] You are the one who is at (or has actually crossed) the 3RR brightline. —''']''' (]) 18:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
== Sockpuppet ==
::What about the article itself. you did not address this issue. Let me say it again: the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. and then ] comes and reverts my chances as if he is the authority on the subject. I am not stating my own opinions, i'm stating the opinions of scholars in my edits. and he keeps reverting them like someone with an agenda. ] (]) 20:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
{{re|C.Fred}} Is if possible to start the sockpuppet investigation of ]. An IP has reported to me that ] is a sockpuppet of ] in ]. Is that true? I suggest to investigate as soon as possible and it’s better to reply me also. ] (]) 11:08, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
:::@] I am not convinced that any editor is acting in bad faith. To the extent that I am taking ''administrative action'' related to the article, I am not wading into the ''content discussions'' related to the article. Again, I reverted your edits to bring you out of violation of 3RR; I figured that was a better solution than blocking your account. Do you think I erred in that decision? —''']''' (]) 20:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Hello ==
:{{re|Theoder2055}} <del>If you feel there's sufficient evidence, you can go ahead and open the report.</del> —''']''' (]) 11:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|Theoder2055}} The IP's report looks bad faith. I don't see where a SPI would get any traction. —''']''' (]) 12:30, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


I am reverting the deleted articles because the guy who nominated them (who is the same person) has demonstrated a clesr bias against survivor pages and a lack of regard for winners and that their pages are meant to stay ] (]) 21:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Theoder2055}} Thanks for pinging me. The IP who reported it to you is the long term abuser who has now attracted the attention of dozens of users dedicated to catch and report him. I would say you should read ] and ignore this sock from now. ] (]) 12:24, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|Theoder2055}} I have to agree with {{u|ArvindPalaskar}}, having taken a closer look at both users. The IP definitely made a bad-faith accusation of sockpuppetry. Yeah, there's topic overlap, but that's coincidence. —''']''' (]) 12:28, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


:@] The community feels otherwise, based on the respective discussions. See your talk page. —''']''' (]) 21:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|ArvindPalaskar}} then what about the account ]?
::"The community" you cant call a barley attened afd started by a guy with a bias against them doesnt coint as comminity ] (]) 21:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:Did you use that account?
:] (]) 12:27, 30 August 2022 (UTC) :::Could you help me set some deletion reviews up? I have no idea how too ] (]) 14:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{re|Theoder2055}} They're under no obligation to answer that question. This admin doesn't see any need to pursue further investigation of sockpuppetry there. The activity of the IP, on the other hand… —''']''' (]) 12:30, 30 August 2022 (UTC) ::::@] What part of the ] instructions is unclear? —''']''' (]) 02:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 ==
{{ping|Theoder2055|ArvindPalaskar|NavjotSR}}, and, of course, C.Fred: I too got talk page messages from the same IP editor about this, and I totally agree with C.Fred. Unfortunately, though, the IP edits are spread across a wide IPrange, with large amounts of unrelated editing, so blocking is not an option. ] (]) 13:09, 31 August 2022 (UTC)


] from the past month (December 2024).
== Disruptive edits ==
{{re|C.Fred}} Also another thing this user ] is continuously making disruptive edits despite several warnings. Is it possible to block him? ] (]) 11:35, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


<div style="display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap">
:{{re|Theoder2055}} They haven't infringed again since their final warning. —''']''' (]) 15:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
<div style="flex: 1 0 20em">

:{{re|C.Fred}} Even if we doesn’t warn him he will afterwards start making disruptive editing after we stop warning. So we don’t know when he will continue the same. But that’s up to your wish if do you think this user stopped making edits which constitutes vandalism. ] (]) 15:46, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

== Removal ==

Why did you remove my quote you are from Georgia what do you know about my village ] (]) 12:03, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
:It's your responsibility to cite a reliable published source that can be used to ] the information. You didn't. —''']''' (]) 12:04, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – September 2022 ==

] from the past month (August 2022).

{{Col-begin}}
{{Col-2}}


] '''Administrator changes''' ] '''Administrator changes'''
:] ] • ] • ] • ] :] ]
:] {{hlist|class=inline
:] ] • ] • ]
|]
|]
}}
:] {{hlist|class=inline
|]
|]
|]
|]
|]
|]
|]
}}


] '''CheckUser changes'''
{{Col-2}}
:] {{hlist|class=inline
|]
|]
|]
|]
|]
}}
:] ]
:] ]


</div>
<div style="flex: 1 0 20em">
] ]


] '''Interface administrator changes''' ] '''Oversight changes'''
:] ] :] {{hlist|class=inline
|]
|]
|]
|]
|]
}}
:] ]


</div>
{{Col-end}}
</div>


] '''Guideline and policy news''' ] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Following ], ] was adopted as a ].
* ] is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
* A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
* ] is open to gain consensus on whether ] is ] for science and politics.

] '''Technical news''' ] '''Technical news'''
* The Nuke feature also now ] to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.
* ] on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Misplaced Pages has been released.
* The WMF is looking into making a ] system to improve the reporting of harmful incidents through easier and safer reporting. You can leave comments on the talk page by answering the ]. Users who have faced harmful situations are also invited to join a PIRS interview to share the experience. To sign up ] ].


] '''Arbitration''' ] '''Arbitration'''
* Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}.
* An arbitration case regarding ] has been closed. The Arbitration Committee ] as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
* The arbitration case request '']'' has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.


] '''Miscellaneous''' ] '''Miscellaneous'''
* A ] is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the ]. ]
* The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the ] before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
* Voting for candidates for the ] is open until 6 September.


---- ----
{{Center|{{Flatlist| {{center|{{flatlist|
* ] * ]
* ] * ]
Line 96: Line 106:
}}}} }}}}
<!-- <!--
-->{{center|1=<small>Sent by ] (]) 11:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</small>}} -->{{center|1=<small>Sent by ] (]) 15:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)</small>}}
<!-- Message sent by User:Dreamy Jazz@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe&oldid=1107857269 --> <!-- Message sent by User:DreamRimmer@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe&oldid=1266956718 -->

== FAR for Norwich City F.C. ==

I have nominated ] for a ]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the ]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are ].<!--Template:FARMessage--> ] <sub> '']''</sub> 13:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

==Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale==

Your are wrong with restoring the wrong information sourced to Lulu.com (a depreciated self-published unreliable source) by relying on a footnote from this unreliable source over .

The actual reliable sources note his birth date to be 2 June, 1947 such as , ], which was written by scholar ], and more.

I expect you to self revert on my talk page where you accused me of vandalism and also on the article where you have reverted me over this dating, as well as update your comment on ANEW report. ] (]) 19:51, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


== Lemons drop ==
:{{re|Srijanx22}} Neither the News9Live piece nor the Singh book were cited in your version of the page. I could change it from an error warning to an unsourced warning, if you really prefer. —''']''' (]) 20:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
::Still no "vandalism" happened, thus the warning should be removed. I knew that 2 June is the correct date and this is why I was doing the blanket revert. If it was going to be challenged like now then I would be surely backing up myself, just like I have. With the sources I have provided here and on talk page, I don't think that this should be considered "unsourced" anymore. But if you self-revert yourself then I will add the source in a matter of a few minutes. ] (]) 20:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
:::{{re|Srijanx22}} The mention of vandalism is in the standard text for uw-error2. I don't see a need to change it. —''']''' (]) 20:30, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
:::Fine but I also asked you to self-revert so that I can quickly add the source to birth date. It may seem as if I am edit warring against you if I reverted you. ] (]) 20:41, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
::::{{re|Srijanx22}} Better yet, propose the change to the date of birth at the article's talk page. I'll be glad to review it and make the edit there. —''']''' (]) 21:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


This is an English sweet so why do you feel American English should apply ] (]) 12:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
==Another Sockpuppet case==
Hello {{re|C.Fred}} I have noticed ] edits and he is also adding unsourced or poorly sourced content. He mainly edit on ] and ]’s films. Ajith Kumar and Vijay are top stars in Tamil cinema and have so many fans in Tamil cinema. This user is also big fan of them. He is also one among the Sockpuppets of ], ], ], ], ], ] as these users are also big fans of Ajith Kumar and Vijay and they also change the box office collection without citing a reliable source. You can say that he is introducing incorrect information into articles. But what I noticed that Sathyalingam’s edits is similar to them. If you want you can check his contributions. ] (]) 07:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


:@] Because the article is written in American English. —''']''' (]) 14:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
One evidence is that in pages like ], ], ] and other Ajith Kumar and Actor Vijay’s films these users make disruptive edits by making unconstructive edits and adding unsourced or poorly sourced content in those pages. They also got warned for that as well. ] (]) 07:28, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


== Hazaras == == modification cancelled ==


Hi, can I ask you why my change was cancelled by you? ] (]) 17:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi respectful C.Fred, My edit on the ] article is based on contemporary genetic research, and many sources have clearly stated that the Hazaras are more closely related to the Turkic people of Central Asia than to East Asia and the Mongolians.<ref>{{Cite journal |last=Martínez-Cruz |first=Begoña |last2=Vitalis |first2=Renaud |last3=Ségurel |first3=Laure |last4=Austerlitz |first4=Frédéric |last5=Georges |first5=Myriam |last6=Théry |first6=Sylvain |last7=Quintana-Murci |first7=Lluis |last8=Hegay |first8=Tatyana |last9=Aldashev |first9=Almaz |last10=Nasyrova |first10=Firuza |last11=Heyer |first11=Evelyne |date=2011-02 |title=In the heartland of Eurasia: the multilocus genetic landscape of Central Asian populations |url=https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg2010153 |journal=European Journal of Human Genetics |language=en |volume=19 |issue=2 |pages=216–223 |doi=10.1038/ejhg.2010.153 |issn=1476-5438}}</ref> Regards--] (]) 04:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC) ] (]) 04:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


:@] For obviously going against consensus and concealing relevant information from the article. —''']''' (]) 17:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello, The user ] disputes the article by providing several old and second-hand sources, and changes in content with authoritative sources already included in the article. These actions of his are said to be a type of racism. Thank You--] (]) 05:12, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
::I understand your point, however, I believe the information I previously removed, and which was later reinserted by you, is quite irrelevant. There does not appear to be any connection between the police officer's skin colour and the homicide committed by him. ] (]) 17:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@] This has been discussed before, and consensus is that it is rather relevant. —''']''' (]) 17:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)


== ] ==
== Boaters ==


Hi @], wanted to discuss my edit on boater hats. Part of why I use Misplaced Pages is the why of things and I had to do some research as to why boater hats are used at conventions - @] ] (]) 05:47, 4 September 2022 (UTC) I recalled that you previously blocked this ip for edit warring and has resumed edit Warring using an different ip see ] ] (]) 01:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:33, 15 January 2025

Welcome to my talk page.
  • Please sign and date your comment (by adding ~~~~ at the end) to assist the bot that archives this page.
  • Please add a new thread to the bottom of the page if you wish to leave me a new message. If you're following up on a previous message, keep your comment in that same place:
    • If you leave me a message here, I will reply here and {{Mention}} you here or leave a {{Talkback}} template on your talk page, unless you indicate that you are watching my page or no talkback message is necessary.
    • If you are responding to a message I left on your talk page, please reply there so the discussion stays in one place. Please {{Mention}} me in the message there or leave a {{Talkback}} template here so I know about the message, unless I indicate that no talkback is necessary in my message. If you are commenting here on a message or warning I left there, don't be surprised if I move the discussion back to your talk page.
  • This page is set for automatic archiving every 7 days. I will remove talkback messages as acknowledgment that I have read the related reply, and I reserve the right to summarily remove any uncivil comments or frivolous warnings.
Thank you, and happy editing!
Archiving icon
Archives

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20
21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30
31, 32


This page has archives. Sections older than 7 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.

Regarding Al-Bukhari.

Hello threre, regarding my edits on Al-Bukhari article, first of all i am not the one who started this editing war. hence i am not sure why you're reverting my changes. the matter of the fact is that the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. so what's the problem here? Bakkouz (talk) 17:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bakkouz You are the one who is at (or has actually crossed) the 3RR brightline. —C.Fred (talk) 18:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
What about the article itself. you did not address this issue. Let me say it again: the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. and then User:شاه عباس comes and reverts my chances as if he is the authority on the subject. I am not stating my own opinions, i'm stating the opinions of scholars in my edits. and he keeps reverting them like someone with an agenda. Bakkouz (talk) 20:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@Bakkouz I am not convinced that any editor is acting in bad faith. To the extent that I am taking administrative action related to the article, I am not wading into the content discussions related to the article. Again, I reverted your edits to bring you out of violation of 3RR; I figured that was a better solution than blocking your account. Do you think I erred in that decision? —C.Fred (talk) 20:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello

I am reverting the deleted articles because the guy who nominated them (who is the same person) has demonstrated a clesr bias against survivor pages and a lack of regard for winners and that their pages are meant to stay Wwew345t (talk) 21:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

@Wwew345t The community feels otherwise, based on the respective discussions. See your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 21:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
"The community" you cant call a barley attened afd started by a guy with a bias against them doesnt coint as comminity Wwew345t (talk) 21:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Could you help me set some deletion reviews up? I have no idea how too Wwew345t (talk) 14:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Wwew345t What part of the WP:Deletion review instructions is unclear? —C.Fred (talk) 02:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

added Sennecaster
readded
removed

CheckUser changes

added
readded Worm That Turned
removed Ferret

Oversight changes

added
readded Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Lemons drop

This is an English sweet so why do you feel American English should apply Sharnadd (talk) 12:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sharnadd Because the article is written in American English. —C.Fred (talk) 14:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

modification cancelled

Hi, can I ask you why my change was cancelled by you? Slancio2 (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Slancio2 For obviously going against consensus and concealing relevant information from the article. —C.Fred (talk) 17:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
I understand your point, however, I believe the information I previously removed, and which was later reinserted by you, is quite irrelevant. There does not appear to be any connection between the police officer's skin colour and the homicide committed by him. Slancio2 (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
@Slancio2 This has been discussed before, and consensus is that it is rather relevant. —C.Fred (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/104.173.25.23

I recalled that you previously blocked this ip for edit warring and has resumed edit Warring using an different ip see Special:Contributions/74.87.19.246 Untamed1910 (talk) 01:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)