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Current location of cylinder

https://nelc.yale.edu/event/cyrus-conqueror-liberator-superstar The Cyrus Cylinder is currently on loan to Yale University, at the Peabody Museum in New Haven, CT. It will be there until the end of June, when it will then presumably return to London. Should the current location on the infobox be updated? Apextrancelike (talk) 15:18, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Cylinder does translate into freeing the 'bonded people'

In contrast to the articles assertion, the Cyrus cylinder does translate into freeing the 'bonded people' - and this is very commonly accepted to mean freeing slaves. Also their is no archaeological evidence, including the form of records (tokens/cylinder seals) that allude to the existence of slavery in the Achaemenid period. Aside from a passage or two from Herodotus, who was more of a fear mongering politician than a historian, there is a complete lack of archeological or written evidence for slavery in ancient Iran. 2601:882:101:1A0:5FF:EB54:2807:6AFD (talk) 18:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

That's not what Olmstead's "History of the Persian Empire" says: "An enormous increase in the slave population during this period brought hardships on the lower middle class." etc etc. AnonMoos (talk) 16:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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@IP: To answer your charge: we follow WP:BESTSOURCES. WP:CITE mainstream academic sources if you want something changed in that article.

The WP:SOURCES have to be from the last 30 years. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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