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			== Admin ==
			I hope you become an administrator! Gosh you deserve to become one badly! Becuz, you know, ur name is very cool "wikidudeman", and you've got well over 19,000 valid edits and stuff. Very cool, and very impressive aswell. Cheers! ] (]) 16:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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			I hope you plan to add some more content to these articles than just stating their names. ''']''' (]) 17:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			It just seemed to mee that you probably had some basic geographic information right at hand, and could add it. of course such stubs are sustainable even without it.''']''' (]) 17:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			I wanted to give you a heads-up that I have suggested the 'crats extend your RFA given the sticky patch it has run into. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 18:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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			Why did you remove yourself from the admin candidacy and place yourself in ]? In three hours I was going to promote you to admin. ] (]) 19:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::In three hours I'm sure 10 or 20 more people would have changed their votes to oppose based on obvious and disgusting misinterpretation of my posts from several months ago. It's just not worth it. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::Hi WDM, I honestly don't understand the problem with this round of RFA. I don't understand the changing of votes, the original opposes, and in general, what the problems are. Anyway, I hope you try again, I'll continue to support you. ] (]) 19:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::Disgusting misinterpretation? That's nice. So, several very capable and hardworking editors are disgusting. Thanks. I'll pass along your comments to those "disgusting" editors such as myself. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 19:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::Here's another example. I say that the editors ''misinterpretation of my posts'' are disgusting and Orangemarlin interprets it as me saying the editors themselves are disgusting. It's no wonder the RFA went the way it did. Reading comprehension does a lot of good.] <sup>]</sup> 19:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::: Just to be absolutely crystal clear here (language does not work well over the internet): Wikidudeman is saying that his posts were misinterpreted as disgusting statements. He is not saying that it was disgusting to misinterpret them, nor is he saying that those misinterpreting them were disgusting. '']'' 19:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::::Comment to Orangemarlin. You should "unwatchlist" Wikidudeman. You obviously get upset at whatever he does and says. Right or wrong, you have your opinion and he has his. So just stop watching him. Go about your business here, which is to improve Misplaced Pages in the best way you know how, and stop adding grief/stress to your time here. Just my $.02. ] | ] 20:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::::::Wow, I guess you're a shrink, because you obviously have insight into my level of stress and my being upset. Thank you very much for the free clinical evaluation and advice. You are a wonderful person. I'm in tears that a fellow Wikipedian can be so thoughtful. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 22:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::::::Knock of the sarcasm buddy - please. ''If it doesn't help, don't post it''. And if it's not about Wikidudeman you can use your own talk pages, not his.... <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 23:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			:I happened on this RfA by chance and was eager to support when I found it. I carefully read the opposes, but they did not change my mind regarding supporting the RfA. I was more than ready to counter the oppose arguments, based on my own experience. Then I hit the edit button, and the page changed colour! Next time, I hope I will be quicker.
			:Wikidudeman is to be admired for working on controversial articles and attempting to steer them towards NPOV. This generates enemies among those who have a strong opinion about a particular subject, and at controversial articles, many editors have a strong opinion. An RfA needs a thick skin, and I'm sad about what has happened here. '']'' 19:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			::I helped to loose a fine admin from your first time round. I think this just re-affirms how wrong I was in your initial RfA and how wrong the whole process is now. I'm gutted, pissed off and generally upset (I'm trying to be mild). The only hope I have is that you do not loose faith with the work here. My sincerest and best wishes to an editor who is prepared more than almost all (including many admins and '''certainly''' including myself) to take on the difficult and conflict ridden areas. '''Your forced withdrawl to meet your own standards is a net loss to this project''' and shame on those who can't keep the bigger picture in view when commenting at RfA, again a lesson I have now learned. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 20:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::I agree with Pedro. You are a very capable editor. I too !voted support, then saw the pileone from voices from the past, and looked at the diffs presented. After reading the comments, I decided to stay in your "support group." You are rare among editors that you are willing to take on heated topics, and reading your diffs from way back when, it appeared to me that you were approaching the subjects with reverence towards Wiki-policy and not reverance towards any particular POV. You appeared to use good faith, and you appeared to let things go when consensus went against you. I was saddened to see you withdraw, even more saddened to see some of your supporters jump ship over things that happened so very long ago (by wikistandards, a year is an eon.) The irony is that many people become admins ''because'' they've never been in any conflicts and have no good answer to Q3. And why don't they have conflicts? Because they avoid the very articles (murky waters) that you dive straight into. And because of you're bravery, you've been watchlisted (apparently) by a group of editors deadset against you because your POV doesn't match their POV. For shame. I was hoping that because you explicitly stated in Q3 the exact conflict that those opposers dredged up again that it would not have the effect it did. With no hard feelings towards those that opposed, I personally hope you stick around and try the RfA again if that is your wish. If you only edit and never become a janitor, you are probably better off. The "tools" are no big deal, cause more problems than they solve it seems lately, and you have proven that you can contribute in exceptional ways without them. Best of luck to you, Wikiedudeman. Happy editing, ] | ] 20:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::Well that was one hell of a 12 hours. I don't recall seeing any RfA run into the sand like that. It's a shame that the stuff about the David Irving hoo-ha only emerged at this very late stage: I believe that had it been aired earlier you might have had a good chance to put what happened (after all, 9 months ago) into some context. I'm sorry my withdrawal of support added another stone to the avalanche: I was hoping your reply would allow me to restore it but quite understandably you'd had enough by that point. I just wanted to post here to express my sympathy over what must have been, by any standards, a gruelling and unpleasant process. Very best wishes, ] ] 20:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			The ONLY reason that I ever wanted to become an administrator is so that I could shave a few minutes off of the time between me spotting a vandal and that vandal being blocked as well as the time it took to get other admin tasks done such as edit requests etc. That's it. It was never a big deal to me and if so many editors want to get all worked up over my interpretation of a word from a year ago or my using a racist website to verify that a racist belief exists then it's not worth it. I'm not going to try for administrator again, ever. Simply having a few extra capabilities isn't worth all of the hassle.
			At this point in time I'm essentially done working on controversial articles and fighting tooth and nail to end disputes between POV pushers, making countless enemies in the process, and in the end accomplishing nothing but a headache. Take the ] article for instance which I spent months building up to GA status from scratch with the help of only a few. It has been protected for over a month and was just recently unprotected. Edit wars WILL start back up immediately and the article will only be re-protected with no progress made and probably a lot lost. This process will continue on and off until the article is again no longer a GA (it probably isn't anymore) and the months of work that I put into it will go down the drain. This is only one example among dozens and I simply don't have the patience or time to deal with such articles or with editors who frequent them.
			I'm not sure of my future on wikipedia but most likely I will simply be editing and improving only the most uncontroversial articles every now and then. I won't be fighting vandalism anymore (unless it appears on a page I'm watching), I won't watch newpages anymore, I won't be checking new usernames anymore, I won't be mediating disputes anymore and attempting to get POV pushers to work together anymore, I'll let the people who think I am not fit to become an administrator do all of that stuff. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
			:This post makes me feel awful. I do not blame you for feeling this way; I will never be voted to be an admin myself since I have made legions of enemies here. I think your work on Homeopathy was incredible and we would not have made the progress we did if you had not made such a Herculean effort. I do not want you to think that people do not appreciate it, because I certainly do, and I know several others do as well. Maybe we did not express it clearly enough, and that is not to our credit.
			:I would certainly support you for another RfA attempt, which might never come I suppose, and I wouldnt blame you for not wanting to go through that again. However, I think that people will dredge up bad material from the past and raise questions, and these have to be explained clearly and addressed so people can weigh this questionable material and come to terms with it. If revealed early, it can help people to come to terms with it, and realize what it represents.
			:This entire episode is an example of things that we need to correct on Misplaced Pages.--] (]) 03:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
			::Wholeheartedly agree. Dude, I know your work in trying to settle controversial issues has been extremely valuable, particularly in settling arguments and being an effective mediator regarding content relating to such subjects. Yeah, I've jumped the gun a few times myself, and I can't fault you for when others choose to interpret what you say in an unfortunate way. I can't fault you for dropping work with controversial issues, either, under the circumstances. Why get more undeserved heat and aggrevation than you already have? I guess all I can really do is say that I regret the outcome because it was not what you deserved, and that I hope you can continue despite the strange circumstances. ] (]) 18:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
			== I feel bad about the RfA ==
			I am very sorry. I think that it was just too much to digest in a day or so. A bit more explanation and people would have been able to understand it or come to terms with it. Even an apology might have helped I think. I think you did an incredible job on ] and I think you are one of the best editors on Misplaced Pages that we have. I realize that your knowledge and understanding of NPOV might have changed considerably in 10+ months (mine has, for sure). I am sure most people will be happy to support you the next time, but they need reassurance that you understand what is troubling to people about those diffs, and that you didn't mean anything bad by it, and would do things differently now. I am very sorry, once again.--] (]) 23:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
			I am so sorry to learn what happened. Mine passed today with 40 support, 9 oppose and 6 neutrals. I was so sure you had made it, and I was shocked when I checked today. Bummer! You deserve to have it man! Cheer up! The world goes on. -- ]<small><sup>(]/])</sup></small> 02:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
			:I feel very bad about this as well, its a pity this happened after my Misplaced Pages Weekly interview, or I wouldn't have been so sanguine in my comments on how RfAs are assessed. This must a a real kick in the teeth for you. ] (]) 16:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
			::I had some pretty solid feelings about the RFA process after my first RFA and after seeing numerous of the most qualified candidates fail miserably and the most unqualified candidates get nearly unanimous support, however this time it made it concrete for me. This incident has also caused me to take a deeper look at many of other wikipedia processes in general as well as the entire wikipedia "culture" and all I can say is that it is a good thing this happened sooner than later, otherwise I might still be wasting my time on lofty pursuits like I have in the past here. One of the main problems is the RFA process in general. The idea behind the RFA was that editors could ask the community for admin status and if they believed the editor asking could be trusted with it then they would give it to them, and that it would not be a big deal at all. However the RFA process, like any similar process, has turned into simply a popularity vote.
			::Editors who are popular and who have the least enemies become admins, editors who are unpopular and who have the most enemies don't. Generally speaking the editors with the least enemies are those editors who walk on glass around POV pushers and generally don't cross them. The editors with the most enemies (editors like myself) are editors who frequently involve themselves into disputes and in turn make enemies. Given the fact that in many articles there are often two very opposing Point of views, it's impossible to make everyone happy, no matter what you do. Given these facts, a good majority of editors walk on egg shells here and don't do or say anything that might make someone not like them. They avoid disputes and always go with the flow, never disagreeing, never objecting, just another editor who said "support" or "oppose" or "keep" or "delete" along with all of the rest. After a while such editors Request adminship and other editors see that they have a lot of edits and have been here several months and then "support" them. Other editors, just like the editors running for adminship come along and "support" them since they see a lot of supports, without ever taking a serious look at the editors experience. The editor running for adminship becomes administrator, nothing having much of any experience with disputes, and when this editor is needed to solve disputes, this editor does a miserable job at it and causes even more problems.
			::While there are a lot of good administrators out there, Tim Vickers being one of them, there are even more who don't know what the hell they are doing, and that number is increasing weekly. The only way to solve it would be to abolish the entire RFA system and simply have Bureaucrats(who should be more common) grant admin status to editors who they know and have experience with and that be that. If they don't do well with the tools then they are taken away as easily as they were given. That's it. But of course this won't happen. Any such a thing would surely need to go up "for a vote" and would surely be voted down by the same people who simply "support" or "oppose" based on how many supports or opposes are already there. A lot of supports means they support, A lot of opposes means they oppose. And the process continues itself. Of course for such an idea the initial reaction would be oppose since wikipedians in general, I have experienced, don't like change.
			::Where am I going with all of this ranting? Nowhere. Just expressing my opinions on a process and culture in general that seems to work against group psychology. While some might think that I'm just sore because of the way my RFA went, they would actually be right also, It does bother me a lot that given all of the work I've put into wikipedia and the time I have put into it attempting to get people to work together and to resolve disputes, so many editors don't even believe I am responsible enough to have admin tools. Though as I've stated before, most of the editors who opposed me were editors who I have crossed paths with in the past and who for one reason or another have held a grudge.
			::Anyway...I've just wasted another 15 minutes. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::"simply have Bureaucrats(who should be more common) grant admin status to editors who they know and have experience with and that be that. If they don't do well with the tools then they are taken away as easily as they were given. That's it." You are very right. ——''']''' ] Ψ ]<span style="color:#ffffff;">——</span> 00:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
			:Fascinating rant, and it's great to play the victim, isn't it? The reason a large number of individuals changed their vote was because of the ] episode. Your edits appeared to be anti-semitic and racist. Your use of ], a Neo-Nazi, White supremacist organization, as a reliable source was reprehensible. Many of the opposes were Jewish editors on Misplaced Pages (myself included), and will not countenance anti-Semitism, either subtle or obvious. I give no good faith to racism in any form, and all we asked of you was to explain your reasoning--maybe we misinterpreted what you did, but we deserved an explanation at edits that could be interpreted as racist. Attacking the process rather than owning up to what you had done only confirms to many of us that you are, in fact, misguided about NPOV or worse yet, a racist. Remember, I supported you up until Slrubenstein showed diffs as to your edits on David Irving (and Slrubenstein and I don't get along on much on this project). Then a landslide of very respected editors, whom I trust implicitly, jumped ship from supporting you. Then, in a fit of immaturity or righteous indignation (hard to tell), you quit. Of course, who knows how many more editors were going to move to oppose in that last two hours; on the other hand, maybe we were all full of crap, and a bunch of editors would have moved to support. So, you can continue to play the victim, a persona that many racists utilize, or you can come clean about what you were thinking when you used Stormfront as your reliable source. You don't have to answer me, or you do, your choice. I've battled you so many times on NPOV and ownership of articles that I guess you don't give a crap as to what I think. I'm just telling you what the background noise is. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 18:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
			This is what I was referring to above. I and many others were glad to support you until the David Irving talk page discussion was exposed. Then, for people to feel comfortable supporting you, they need an explanation, an apology, something. And they probably need enough time to be able to digest your apology or explanation. That is all. --] (]) 18:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
			::Orangemarlin, You clearly have reading compression issues, so I won't fault you for that. However you should try to pay attention to what I am saying closely so that perhaps you can understand exactly why I did what I did. I was unsure about referring to David Irving as a "discredited historian" simply because I was unsure about whether or not someone could still be a "historian" even if most of what they said was discredited. That's it. You interpret that as antisemitism. You clearly don't have a clue what antisemitism is. If you want to attack people like myself who do things that you disagree with as antisemitic then you're just playing the race card and are a race baiter. Pure and simple.
			::The reason I used Stormfront.com as a source was not because I thought anything they said was reliable, it was because I was using it as a reference to support the fact that such people with such beliefs exist. That is it. It would be like using Mein Kampf as a source for a statement about Hitlers beliefs and then being attacked as a racist for using Mein Kampf as a source. The absurdity of that is beyond comprehension.
			::The problem isn't me, It's you and others like you who want to interpret something as benign as the edits I made as racist simply because you don't like them. You're right about one thing though, I don't care about what you think. I've had more than enough experience with you in the past to take nothing you say seriously. During my RFA you made a post on my talk page about how much you "respected me" and how wrong you were for misinterpreting my actions on the ] article as harmful, and then not 1 day later you (yet again) misinterpret my edits and actions and then attack me as being racist and strike out your comments about respecting me.
			::A problem with a lot of wikipedians is that they are so uneasy about the possibility of racism on Misplaced Pages they interpret people who make edits they disagree with as racist. Any edit that is even vaguely against the grain of what is expected when it comes to race is labeled racist, regardless of the intentions of the editor. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
			:Ouch. This did not help matters any. I think you have many strengths but this is very disappointing. You might want to cool off a little and look at this post later and strike out or redact or refactor or whatever a few parts.--] (]) 23:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::Time to get rid of you. Reading comprehension issues? Others like me? ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 23:39, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::How about: move on folks, there's nothing to see here. We're really not accomplishing anything by draggimg this out further. If WDM has an RfA again, bring it up there. Really, enough. ] 01:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
			There won't be another RFA. Ever. The only reason the people who changed their votes supported me at first was because of the fact that everyone else was, but once a few people started opposing, then the Dam broke. People whom I had crossed paths with in the past only supported me because they thought I was going to become an admin and wanted to be on my good side, but once they noticed that there was a chance I might not make it...Well you know the story. Far too many editors spend far too much time "playing the game" and politicking their way in hopes of becoming administrator or in attempts to avoid anyone challenging them. POV pushers also do it so that they aren't called out. I too used to do it but I can't do that anymore. Filll, Please... Orangemarlin, Don't threaten me. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
			Oh my. I hope you do not really think I am threatening you. I was just stupidly trying to be helpful and suggest ways that things could be fixed for next time. I apologize, I don't mean to be disrespectful. And I supported you because I think you would be a good admin. No other reason. Believe it or not.--] (]) 01:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
			:I don't think the "don't threaten me" was to you, Filll. That was for Orangemarlin. Dudeman said "Please" to you, which I interpretted, I guess, as a "PuhlEEze", i.e..... ] (]) 20:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
			I didn't change my vote. You would probably have been a good admin. ——''']''' ] Ψ ]<span style="color:#ffffff;">——</span> 01:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
			::Friar, Indeed, It was to Orangemarlin. Martinphi, I have a feeling that given the chance you would have changed to oppose and only didn't do so because you didn't notice the flood of opposes. If however you wouldn't have, then you get my respect for not being vindictive. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::Reading the above, I get the feeling that changing would not have been justified at all. But I didn't bother reviewing the evidence personally, so I don't know for absolute sure. ——''']''' ] Ψ ]<span style="color:#ffffff;">——</span> 02:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
			I feel you deserved it and wouldn't have changed my vote. I should have changed my vote from "neutral" to "support" in your first RfA, and I apologize for not doing so in time. I know you said you won't be trying again, but good luck when you do. Make sure you send me an email letting me know. --''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 06:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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			Hello Wikidudeman, I've granted rollback rights to your account. You would have received rollback had your RfA passed, but since it didn't, I thought I'd give it to you. For more information on rollback, see ] and ]. If you don't want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck. ] 21:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
			::I tested it out. I don't plan to fight vandalism anymore unless it appears on a page I am watching, but it might come in handy. Or it might not. Either way, thanks. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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	:The use of copyrighted magazine covers to illustrate an article about the person depicted on the cover is against our ], as is directly addressed by item #7 of ]. Some of the articles contained one line like "''John Smith appeared i a lot of magazine covers, including Magazine BodySmither''". This is of no help, as this line is obviously a piece of irrelevant information used to try to justify the used of an unfree image (and even if this line was relevant, it doensn't need an image to convey it's information).
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	Very well.] <sup>]</sup> 11:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
			Well, not this time anyway it seems...] was unsuccessful, but your support was still very much appreciated. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. Thank you!--] 07:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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	Do you think this image should be fair use? If not then please help me get it removed. ]] <sup>]</sup> 06:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
	:The image is already tagged as replaceable. I would say there's no chance the admin closing the case (by January 20) wouldn't delete the image. It's a clear and typical violation of ]#1 and ]#8. Good work. --''] <sup>(])</sup>'' 11:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
	::Thank you. I tagged about 25 of them last night.] <sup>]</sup> 11:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::Great job! --''] <sup>(])</sup>'' 15:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
	::Someone just reverted your deletion of that John Edward image.] <sup>]</sup> 15:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::Yes, I noticed that. The editor seems to be convinced (in good faith) that that image is acceptable in Misplaced Pages. But as I said, that image is going to be deleted by the admin reviewing that tagging. I don't think it's worth to war for removing the image from the article right now. --''] <sup>(])</sup>'' 15:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
	::::What about this image?]. Does it fit the fair use criteria? I see it's been tagged by someone as having no copyright information. Will it be removed today?] <sup>]</sup> 15:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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	A good rule of thumb on Misplaced Pages is...if someone finds something incivil, then you have to take that as just that. By policy it might not be incivil but policy and perception don't always match up. What I have problems with is that you seem to have made attempts to extend the discussion instead of just saying ok he finds it incivil. Let's move on. Instead, you mentioned him being afraid and all of that stuff and you seemed to exacerbate the situation instead of calming it down. And Dreadlocke did nothing wrong by mentioning Randi on the Edward talk page. Again. Let it go and move on. I would recommend taking a few days off from each other or maybe email Dreadlocke and work it out that way. Try to work with him. Yes you mentioned the forum but maybe he would be more comfortable working it out through a less public medium. Ask him. --]<sup>]</sup> 06:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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	::I have found this with Dreadlocke, in that his reponses almost always accuse editors with differing pints of view to be abusive, rude, uncivil and uses ] with a startling degree of regularity. ] 20:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
			Hey, I just want to tell you that User:209.133.36.2 is the ISP adress from the Wyandanch Memeorial High School, I use it becuse I came form thta school but I did not vandalize pages! ] (]) 20:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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	:::I guess "woohookitty" isn't going to address my rebuttal. Yes, It's true that Dreadlocke seems to cry "abuse" anytime someone disagrees with him.] <sup>]</sup> 08:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
			You blocked my article about TripleMe.com search engine ! it is unfair. My search engine is similar to Dog Pile and my conten was similar to others metasearch engines.
	::::Apologies. Generally though, once I respond on a talk page, I don't always go back to that talk page to see responses. Why? Because most users respond on my talk page when I respond to them on theirs. I know. It's a poor reason but that's why. Anyway.
			Please explain what is wrong or fix it and publish! I have about 1000 visitors a day and Wiki people should know about this new search engine.
	::::Just a couple of points. Firstly, I did Dreadlocke about removing posts from talk pages. Secondly, I haven't acted on several of his posts to my talk page because I haven't found them valid. I am always very very leery of people who find me their "champion" because honestly, it just doesn't work that way with me. I don't believe in becoming "friends" with people on here with a few exceptions. Why? Because I want to be unbiased. So yes, Dreadlocke has been making a lot of accusations of policy violations on my talk page. But I'm not acting on a lot of them.
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	::::This brings me to the current situation on ]. I warned both of you on it because you both could've acted better. Dreadlocke should not have removed a part of your notice on his talk page. And frankly, both of you should have just taken a day or more off from each other so you could find a better solution. I didn't see any problem with Dreadlocke discussing Randi as long as it pertains to the article in some way. And from what I saw, it did. And honestly, you should've taken more steps to work with Dreadlocke on Misplaced Pages itself. I have no problem with mentioning 3rd party websites, but some users take that as ignoring the issues. Not saying that you were. But I guarantee you that that's how Dreadlocke took it if you read his posts on my talk page. My warnings were meant to get you too to talk to each other on each other's terms. Dreadlocke thought you were ignoring the issues. You thought that Dreadlocke was talking about a subject that didn't belong on the Edward discussion page. Discussing it for a bit is fine, but at some point, it becomes an argument. And you know. In my 2 years on here, I've learned that nothing good comes out of arguments. You just need to agree to disagree and move on something else. All arguments do is lead to rancor, blocks and arbcom cases. They are not productive. And that's the point I was trying to get through.
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	Firstly, Explain to me how discussing the validity of James Randi's challenge on the John Edward talk page has any relevance to the John Edward article itself. Secondly, I doubt Dreadlocke ignored my offer to discuss the issue on a message board because he thought I was "evading the issue". If he did then he would of decided to take the discussion to the James Randi page(but he didn't). The only reason he didn't want to discuss the validity of the challenge is because he knows he isn't right. He knows that if we were to bring the discussion to a place where it could be discussed in length, He would not have a leg to stand on. That's why he denied discussing it on the message board. A more open environment that's much easier to navigate than wikipedia.] <sup>]</sup> 08:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
	:It has relevance because Randi's challenges are mentioned in the article. As for Dreadlocke's perceptions, why don't you just ask him if that's what he thought. The impression that I got is that he felt as though you were ignoring the issue. But the best way to find out is just to ask him. That's all I'm asking for. Try to talk to him on his terms and not what you perceive his perceptions to be. --]<sup>]</sup> 10:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
	::Just because it's mentioned in the article doesn't mean the details of the challenge itself should be mentioned on that talk page. Only on the talk page of the article about the challenge itself. Dreadlocke thought I was 'ignoring the issue'? Ignoring the issue by asking him to participate in further discussion? Hmm. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:15, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::Yep I think so. In any case, even if that's not the reason, obviously, something about that offer bothers him in some way. As I said, just ask him. Try to work it out. And hopefully he'll do the same thing. That's all I can ask for. --]<sup>]</sup> 10:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
	::::What bothers him is his lack of any defense for his claims. No, I don't have time to deal with him. Anytime I post on his talk page he erases my post and calls it "abusive". I don't get into discussions with him unless I have to to help improve an article. I don't have time to waste trying to appease him. I'm too busy doing much more important things.] <sup>]</sup> 10:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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	] I have two friendly observations for you. 1) Respectfully, you may have made a slight tactical error in regards to not wanting to discuss Randi on the ] page. Even though I haven't read much on him I'm 95% sure ] is probably evading the Randi challenge for the same reasons ] is, he knows he probably can't guess his way through an actual double blind test. If he accuses Randi of being biased, point out that Randi only puts up the cash and designs the test. As I understand it Randi wants neutral scientists running the experiment on readings given to believers. (I may have some of the specifics wrong, but you know what I mean in that he takes steps to show it isn't rigged or bogus.) If Randi himself were less of a prick, people would really have no reason to doubt the challenge. Because he is who he is the nature of the experiment must be explained, because when it is anyone who really thinks they have the "gift" is nuts not to take a shot at a cool million at no cost to themselves. If the person in question knows they are fake, and makes many times more than a million dollars a year they have everything to lose, which I have always found to be the genius of the challenge itself. 2) With ] as long as you keep your comments about the subject I think most people will understand that ] is just sensitive as opposed to your victim. Anyone who goes to as much trouble as he/she did to accumulate links to perceived incivility is hoping for you to cross the line even accidentally. A few years ago I would be tempted myself to give a person like that something to complain about, overly sensitive people used to bug me. It's just not very satisfying to give in because that's exactly what they want. As soon as you do something which can be called uncivil they become the victim and get to tell everyone how awful you are. I once tried to step up the niceness when dealing with "victimizer" and I could tell it really pissed them off. I figured because I was being so nice, they knew that there was really no legitimate reason to complain about me victimizing them. In one case a person actually started insulting me who had been complaining about others doing the same to him/her, it may sound sick but it actually felt good. That time, and pretty much every time since, I know that by actually being nice I've ruined somebodies day who was out to ruin mine. 99.9% it's wrong to take pleasure in another's pain, the .1% are the times said sufferer was out to harm you and you stop that by being nice. You may feel like a tool at first, but it does pay off and almost everybody wins. Sorry this post was so long, ] 11:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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	Woohookitty, Thank you for your observations. However let me address your points. 1. I would of accomplished nothing debating Randi's challenge on that John Edward talk page. Assuming I actually convince Dreadlocke that he is wrong and that the Challenge is legit, What would that accomplish? I can't say on the John Edward page that "Edward refuses to take Randi's challenge because he's a fake" because that would be POV. I could say "Some people accuse Edward of being a fake especially because he won't take the challenge" which I could do right now without even debating the legitimacy of the challenge itself. 2. I don't believe Randi is a "prick". Randi deals with con artists on a daily basis and it's not easy to be nice to people who are conning others out of money. 3.I highly doubt anyone would actually even take the time to read all of the long drawn out arguments between me and Dreadlocke, So I wouldn't be convincing any onlookers. The argument would be on some talk page of a 2nd rate "psychic" and be 'rebuking' dreadlocke would not get me anywhere. That's one of the reasons I asked to take it to a popular message board (Randi's) or to the Randi talk page itself.] <sup>]</sup> 07:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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	:I knew I should have explained the prick comment better. I am a Randi supporter, he does deal with con-artists for a living and it isn't easy to be nice to them usually (which is why I said prick rather than dick). In my opinion he has to play toward Edwards audience if he wants to make a real difference. People like us are the choir, and we really identify with his frustration (at least I do). He puts off a lot of people who believe in Edward just by his "prickish" frustration. Keep in mind we're talking about a person who has as a large portion of his fanbase are 30 to 80+ something suburban women who vote for people because they seem "nice". Facts mean nothing to people like that, and there are a lot of them. (I point to the 2000 and especially the 2004 Presidential elections.) Believe me I understand his and your frustration, it really angers me that some people make a living by exploiting human tragedy and not even provide a useful service. Say what you want about an ambulance chasing lawyer or a mortician, the former is out to get you (and him/her) some money and the latter is looking to provide you a tangible service. Edward, Browne, and the rest just want money regardless of how much they exacerbate a person's sense of loss. The problem is most people don't have a clue that's what's happening, even those who don't believe but ask "what's the harm" see him get short and assume he's a bitter old man out to spoil the magic, so to speak. (A note to women, I don't mean to sound sexist when I point out a large part of Edwards fans are women. I personally have not encountered a lot of men who really enjoy his show.) ] 08:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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	::Sorry, I thought woohookitty left that message I addressed.] <sup>]</sup> 08:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
			I am new to editing wikipedia pages. I don't know all the rules. I discovered a fundamental flaw (incorrect interpretation of federal statute) on (apparently) your post. I attempted to correct it several times, and when it was reverted back to its original state, I attempted to delete it several times. I assumed there was some type of bot monitoring for change and automatically reverting back to your post. Finally, I noticed a message bar stating I must fill out a form when doing so. I apologize for inadvertently violating wikipedia's policy. That being said, your description of federal statute regulating the priority of child support payments is flat out wrong. The percentages from the study may be correct, but only insofar as the percentage of those funds paid to the government are from families which are currently receiving monthly checks from the government in the form of welfare. Current support collected for child support is only remitted to the State during months in which the family is receiving monetary benefits from the government. The government does not "steal from the poor and give to itself," at least as far as child support is concerned (taxes are another issue).
	It's cool, I didn't mean to come off sounding holier than thou or "adminish". ] 08:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
			Respectfully,
	::It did seem a bit less "in favor of dreadlocke" than usual so I thought that was odd.] <sup>]</sup> 08:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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			== New Rational Skepticism WikiProject member asking for look at Theosophy entry ==
			Since you are an active participant in the Rational Skepticism WikiProject, would you mind looking over the Misplaced Pages entry on Theosophy to see if you find any concerns?
	== Do you believe in psychics? ==
			I've been ordered to fix the page so that it accords with my understanding of the NPOV policy. I'm happy to do that but I have a lot of work at my job.
	Simple question. Do you believe in psychics?] <sup>]</sup> 08:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
			Now I've been told that I must make the changes by April 30th or the NPOV tag will be removed. I simply can't learn how to use Misplaced Pages as a newcomer, become familiar with all the sources, and make the edits if I must do it all by April 30th.
	:Not really a simple question : ) Honestly, I don't believe in pop psychic bull. I personally don't think parapsychology has provided proof of anything either. Evidence of -something- sure. I buy the statistical anomaly business, but don't agree that it is necessarily psychic. I do completely support inquiry into psychic phenomena, however, and haven't ruled out the possibility of it. I don't think the out of hand dismissal by people like Randi has any more merit than the absurd claims of Sylvia. Super-skeptics like him and others I'm not into because they don't seriously think about it. They simply dismiss it.
			Would you look over the Theosophy page? Also, can you recommend anything? Thanks much,] (]) 15:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
	:I support the notion that parapsychology is a failed science but probably for different reasons than you do. I think that some things are outside current experimental research. There's other approaches to study than the experimental approach and those are what I'm interested in personally. Parapsychology is tied mostly to experimental research. I don't think they're going to get very far with that.
			== Black Supremacy article ==
	:All that said, my opinions don't matter. If it's a duck, and most of the scientists call it a duck, you say duck. The super-skeptics are just as fringe as the drank-the-kool-aid-believers and most scientists are somewhere in the middle.
	:--''']''' <sup>(]|])</sup> 09:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
			Hey, sorry to bug you about this, but ever since you and other Wikipedians reached consensus on how the first sentence in the ] article should read (a consensus which included the word 'racist'), the article has experienced continual back-and-forth editing, mostly from IP addresses that seem to not take too kindly to the agreed-upon sentence. I've recently thrown my hat in the ring by trying to monitor the page and correct it following "drive-by" edits, but I wanted to alert you to the situation too, mostly because another user has accused me of sockpuppetry (which I am not), so I might not be able to edit the page in the near future. Hopefully, you can throw an eye every now and then just to check that it is the consensus version that is presented and not someone else's. The way the article is now (per my most recent edit, reverting another user that went against the consensus version) is the way I believe most closely follows the agreed-upon version that you and others came to in the past. Anyways, thanks for reading. ] (]) 03:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
	I'm simply asking for your opinions to determine why you're supporting the bias ] article. Anyone can see it's bias except for the people who have an inherent belief in it. So It's curious you defend it so staunchly. Even going as far as saying the article doesn't need a NPOV dispute tag is very disturbing.] <sup>]</sup> 09:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	:I'm not arguing the neutrality of the article, which does need work. I'm focused on the one issue of the factual accuracy of it being labeled "scientific" as a term. I completely agree that the NPOV tag is appropriate for now. I asked why it had the Totally Disputed tag, which I feel is not appropriate, especially since we have agreed on some things. Really simple things, like the dates of certain organizations is not in dispute and is factual. It would really help if the Totally Diputed tag was removed and individual NPOV things were tagged instead. Then we can work those out one at a time.
			{{Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015/MassMessage}} ] (]) 16:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
	:I personally feel I am pretty good at wording things neutrally. Tag something, tell me what it is, and I'll propose a neutral version.
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	The "totally disputed" tag needs to stay because both the factual accuracy and the POV is disputed. If you think you can make the article neutral then try and I'll tell you what I think.] <sup>]</sup> 08:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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	<span style="font-style: Tahoma; font-size: 84%;">'''thanks'''/] ] ]</span> 16:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
	:Matthew, you could start with an explanation of your edit since you haven't on that talk page. --] 16:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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	What's this?] <sup>]</sup> 11:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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	Thank you for the barnstar, it's my first. I really appreciate you taking the time to give one to me! <font face="Georgia"><font size="1">]</font></font><sup>]</sup> 07:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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	== Jay Cutler: Response ==
			Fuck you.
	Go take a look at the ], at where you added the 2006 win, and read the note immediately below it. That should explain my frustration. No offense intended! ] 00:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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I hope you become an administrator! Gosh you deserve to become one badly! Becuz, you know, ur name is very cool "wikidudeman", and you've got well over 19,000 valid edits and stuff. Very cool, and very impressive aswell. Cheers! Angela from the Blue (talk) 16:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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I hope you plan to add some more content to these articles than just stating their names. DGG (talk) 17:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC) It just seemed to mee that you probably had some basic geographic information right at hand, and could add it. of course such stubs are sustainable even without it.DGG (talk) 17:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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I wanted to give you a heads-up that I have suggested the 'crats extend your RFA given the sticky patch it has run into. Spartaz 18:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Why did you remove yourself from the admin candidacy and place yourself in Misplaced Pages:Unsuccessful adminship candidacies/W? In three hours I was going to promote you to admin. Kingturtle (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

In three hours I'm sure 10 or 20 more people would have changed their votes to oppose based on obvious and disgusting misinterpretation of my posts from several months ago. It's just not worth it. Wikidudeman 19:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi WDM, I honestly don't understand the problem with this round of RFA. I don't understand the changing of votes, the original opposes, and in general, what the problems are. Anyway, I hope you try again, I'll continue to support you. WLU (talk) 19:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Disgusting misinterpretation? That's nice. So, several very capable and hardworking editors are disgusting. Thanks. I'll pass along your comments to those "disgusting" editors such as myself. OrangeMarlin 19:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's another example. I say that the editors misinterpretation of my posts are disgusting and Orangemarlin interprets it as me saying the editors themselves are disgusting. It's no wonder the RFA went the way it did. Reading comprehension does a lot of good.Wikidudeman 19:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Just to be absolutely crystal clear here (language does not work well over the internet): Wikidudeman is saying that his posts were misinterpreted as disgusting statements. He is not saying that it was disgusting to misinterpret them, nor is he saying that those misinterpreting them were disgusting. Geometry guy 19:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment to Orangemarlin. You should "unwatchlist" Wikidudeman. You obviously get upset at whatever he does and says. Right or wrong, you have your opinion and he has his. So just stop watching him. Go about your business here, which is to improve Misplaced Pages in the best way you know how, and stop adding grief/stress to your time here. Just my $.02. Keeper | 76 20:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I guess you're a shrink, because you obviously have insight into my level of stress and my being upset. Thank you very much for the free clinical evaluation and advice. You are a wonderful person. I'm in tears that a fellow Wikipedian can be so thoughtful. OrangeMarlin 22:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Knock of the sarcasm buddy - please. If it doesn't help, don't post it. And if it's not about Wikidudeman you can use your own talk pages, not his.... Pedro :  Chat  23:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I happened on this RfA by chance and was eager to support when I found it. I carefully read the opposes, but they did not change my mind regarding supporting the RfA. I was more than ready to counter the oppose arguments, based on my own experience. Then I hit the edit button, and the page changed colour! Next time, I hope I will be quicker.

Wikidudeman is to be admired for working on controversial articles and attempting to steer them towards NPOV. This generates enemies among those who have a strong opinion about a particular subject, and at controversial articles, many editors have a strong opinion. An RfA needs a thick skin, and I'm sad about what has happened here. Geometry guy 19:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I helped to loose a fine admin from your first time round. I think this just re-affirms how wrong I was in your initial RfA and how wrong the whole process is now. I'm gutted, pissed off and generally upset (I'm trying to be mild). The only hope I have is that you do not loose faith with the work here. My sincerest and best wishes to an editor who is prepared more than almost all (including many admins and certainly including myself) to take on the difficult and conflict ridden areas. Your forced withdrawl to meet your own standards is a net loss to this project and shame on those who can't keep the bigger picture in view when commenting at RfA, again a lesson I have now learned. Pedro :  Chat  20:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Pedro. You are a very capable editor. I too !voted support, then saw the pileone from voices from the past, and looked at the diffs presented. After reading the comments, I decided to stay in your "support group." You are rare among editors that you are willing to take on heated topics, and reading your diffs from way back when, it appeared to me that you were approaching the subjects with reverence towards Wiki-policy and not reverance towards any particular POV. You appeared to use good faith, and you appeared to let things go when consensus went against you. I was saddened to see you withdraw, even more saddened to see some of your supporters jump ship over things that happened so very long ago (by wikistandards, a year is an eon.) The irony is that many people become admins because they've never been in any conflicts and have no good answer to Q3. And why don't they have conflicts? Because they avoid the very articles (murky waters) that you dive straight into. And because of you're bravery, you've been watchlisted (apparently) by a group of editors deadset against you because your POV doesn't match their POV. For shame. I was hoping that because you explicitly stated in Q3 the exact conflict that those opposers dredged up again that it would not have the effect it did. With no hard feelings towards those that opposed, I personally hope you stick around and try the RfA again if that is your wish. If you only edit and never become a janitor, you are probably better off. The "tools" are no big deal, cause more problems than they solve it seems lately, and you have proven that you can contribute in exceptional ways without them. Best of luck to you, Wikiedudeman. Happy editing, Keeper | 76 20:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Well that was one hell of a 12 hours. I don't recall seeing any RfA run into the sand like that. It's a shame that the stuff about the David Irving hoo-ha only emerged at this very late stage: I believe that had it been aired earlier you might have had a good chance to put what happened (after all, 9 months ago) into some context. I'm sorry my withdrawal of support added another stone to the avalanche: I was hoping your reply would allow me to restore it but quite understandably you'd had enough by that point. I just wanted to post here to express my sympathy over what must have been, by any standards, a gruelling and unpleasant process. Very best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown 20:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

The ONLY reason that I ever wanted to become an administrator is so that I could shave a few minutes off of the time between me spotting a vandal and that vandal being blocked as well as the time it took to get other admin tasks done such as edit requests etc. That's it. It was never a big deal to me and if so many editors want to get all worked up over my interpretation of a word from a year ago or my using a racist website to verify that a racist belief exists then it's not worth it. I'm not going to try for administrator again, ever. Simply having a few extra capabilities isn't worth all of the hassle.

At this point in time I'm essentially done working on controversial articles and fighting tooth and nail to end disputes between POV pushers, making countless enemies in the process, and in the end accomplishing nothing but a headache. Take the Homeopathy article for instance which I spent months building up to GA status from scratch with the help of only a few. It has been protected for over a month and was just recently unprotected. Edit wars WILL start back up immediately and the article will only be re-protected with no progress made and probably a lot lost. This process will continue on and off until the article is again no longer a GA (it probably isn't anymore) and the months of work that I put into it will go down the drain. This is only one example among dozens and I simply don't have the patience or time to deal with such articles or with editors who frequent them.

I'm not sure of my future on wikipedia but most likely I will simply be editing and improving only the most uncontroversial articles every now and then. I won't be fighting vandalism anymore (unless it appears on a page I'm watching), I won't watch newpages anymore, I won't be checking new usernames anymore, I won't be mediating disputes anymore and attempting to get POV pushers to work together anymore, I'll let the people who think I am not fit to become an administrator do all of that stuff. Wikidudeman 18:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

This post makes me feel awful. I do not blame you for feeling this way; I will never be voted to be an admin myself since I have made legions of enemies here. I think your work on Homeopathy was incredible and we would not have made the progress we did if you had not made such a Herculean effort. I do not want you to think that people do not appreciate it, because I certainly do, and I know several others do as well. Maybe we did not express it clearly enough, and that is not to our credit.

I would certainly support you for another RfA attempt, which might never come I suppose, and I wouldnt blame you for not wanting to go through that again. However, I think that people will dredge up bad material from the past and raise questions, and these have to be explained clearly and addressed so people can weigh this questionable material and come to terms with it. If revealed early, it can help people to come to terms with it, and realize what it represents.

This entire episode is an example of things that we need to correct on Misplaced Pages.--Filll (talk) 03:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Wholeheartedly agree. Dude, I know your work in trying to settle controversial issues has been extremely valuable, particularly in settling arguments and being an effective mediator regarding content relating to such subjects. Yeah, I've jumped the gun a few times myself, and I can't fault you for when others choose to interpret what you say in an unfortunate way. I can't fault you for dropping work with controversial issues, either, under the circumstances. Why get more undeserved heat and aggrevation than you already have? I guess all I can really do is say that I regret the outcome because it was not what you deserved, and that I hope you can continue despite the strange circumstances. John Carter (talk) 18:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I feel bad about the RfA

I am very sorry. I think that it was just too much to digest in a day or so. A bit more explanation and people would have been able to understand it or come to terms with it. Even an apology might have helped I think. I think you did an incredible job on homeopathy and I think you are one of the best editors on Misplaced Pages that we have. I realize that your knowledge and understanding of NPOV might have changed considerably in 10+ months (mine has, for sure). I am sure most people will be happy to support you the next time, but they need reassurance that you understand what is troubling to people about those diffs, and that you didn't mean anything bad by it, and would do things differently now. I am very sorry, once again.--Filll (talk) 23:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I am so sorry to learn what happened. Mine passed today with 40 support, 9 oppose and 6 neutrals. I was so sure you had made it, and I was shocked when I checked today. Bummer! You deserve to have it man! Cheer up! The world goes on. -- Alexf 02:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I feel very bad about this as well, its a pity this happened after my Misplaced Pages Weekly interview, or I wouldn't have been so sanguine in my comments on how RfAs are assessed. This must a a real kick in the teeth for you. Tim Vickers (talk) 16:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I had some pretty solid feelings about the RFA process after my first RFA and after seeing numerous of the most qualified candidates fail miserably and the most unqualified candidates get nearly unanimous support, however this time it made it concrete for me. This incident has also caused me to take a deeper look at many of other wikipedia processes in general as well as the entire wikipedia "culture" and all I can say is that it is a good thing this happened sooner than later, otherwise I might still be wasting my time on lofty pursuits like I have in the past here. One of the main problems is the RFA process in general. The idea behind the RFA was that editors could ask the community for admin status and if they believed the editor asking could be trusted with it then they would give it to them, and that it would not be a big deal at all. However the RFA process, like any similar process, has turned into simply a popularity vote.

Editors who are popular and who have the least enemies become admins, editors who are unpopular and who have the most enemies don't. Generally speaking the editors with the least enemies are those editors who walk on glass around POV pushers and generally don't cross them. The editors with the most enemies (editors like myself) are editors who frequently involve themselves into disputes and in turn make enemies. Given the fact that in many articles there are often two very opposing Point of views, it's impossible to make everyone happy, no matter what you do. Given these facts, a good majority of editors walk on egg shells here and don't do or say anything that might make someone not like them. They avoid disputes and always go with the flow, never disagreeing, never objecting, just another editor who said "support" or "oppose" or "keep" or "delete" along with all of the rest. After a while such editors Request adminship and other editors see that they have a lot of edits and have been here several months and then "support" them. Other editors, just like the editors running for adminship come along and "support" them since they see a lot of supports, without ever taking a serious look at the editors experience. The editor running for adminship becomes administrator, nothing having much of any experience with disputes, and when this editor is needed to solve disputes, this editor does a miserable job at it and causes even more problems.

While there are a lot of good administrators out there, Tim Vickers being one of them, there are even more who don't know what the hell they are doing, and that number is increasing weekly. The only way to solve it would be to abolish the entire RFA system and simply have Bureaucrats(who should be more common) grant admin status to editors who they know and have experience with and that be that. If they don't do well with the tools then they are taken away as easily as they were given. That's it. But of course this won't happen. Any such a thing would surely need to go up "for a vote" and would surely be voted down by the same people who simply "support" or "oppose" based on how many supports or opposes are already there. A lot of supports means they support, A lot of opposes means they oppose. And the process continues itself. Of course for such an idea the initial reaction would be oppose since wikipedians in general, I have experienced, don't like change.

Where am I going with all of this ranting? Nowhere. Just expressing my opinions on a process and culture in general that seems to work against group psychology. While some might think that I'm just sore because of the way my RFA went, they would actually be right also, It does bother me a lot that given all of the work I've put into wikipedia and the time I have put into it attempting to get people to work together and to resolve disputes, so many editors don't even believe I am responsible enough to have admin tools. Though as I've stated before, most of the editors who opposed me were editors who I have crossed paths with in the past and who for one reason or another have held a grudge.

Anyway...I've just wasted another 15 minutes. Wikidudeman 00:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

"simply have Bureaucrats(who should be more common) grant admin status to editors who they know and have experience with and that be that. If they don't do well with the tools then they are taken away as easily as they were given. That's it." You are very right. ——Martin ☎ Ψ Φ—— 00:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Fascinating rant, and it's great to play the victim, isn't it? The reason a large number of individuals changed their vote was because of the David Irving episode. Your edits appeared to be anti-semitic and racist. Your use of Stormfront, a Neo-Nazi, White supremacist organization, as a reliable source was reprehensible. Many of the opposes were Jewish editors on Misplaced Pages (myself included), and will not countenance anti-Semitism, either subtle or obvious. I give no good faith to racism in any form, and all we asked of you was to explain your reasoning--maybe we misinterpreted what you did, but we deserved an explanation at edits that could be interpreted as racist. Attacking the process rather than owning up to what you had done only confirms to many of us that you are, in fact, misguided about NPOV or worse yet, a racist. Remember, I supported you up until Slrubenstein showed diffs as to your edits on David Irving (and Slrubenstein and I don't get along on much on this project). Then a landslide of very respected editors, whom I trust implicitly, jumped ship from supporting you. Then, in a fit of immaturity or righteous indignation (hard to tell), you quit. Of course, who knows how many more editors were going to move to oppose in that last two hours; on the other hand, maybe we were all full of crap, and a bunch of editors would have moved to support. So, you can continue to play the victim, a persona that many racists utilize, or you can come clean about what you were thinking when you used Stormfront as your reliable source. You don't have to answer me, or you do, your choice. I've battled you so many times on NPOV and ownership of articles that I guess you don't give a crap as to what I think. I'm just telling you what the background noise is. OrangeMarlin 18:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

This is what I was referring to above. I and many others were glad to support you until the David Irving talk page discussion was exposed. Then, for people to feel comfortable supporting you, they need an explanation, an apology, something. And they probably need enough time to be able to digest your apology or explanation. That is all. --Filll (talk) 18:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Orangemarlin, You clearly have reading compression issues, so I won't fault you for that. However you should try to pay attention to what I am saying closely so that perhaps you can understand exactly why I did what I did. I was unsure about referring to David Irving as a "discredited historian" simply because I was unsure about whether or not someone could still be a "historian" even if most of what they said was discredited. That's it. You interpret that as antisemitism. You clearly don't have a clue what antisemitism is. If you want to attack people like myself who do things that you disagree with as antisemitic then you're just playing the race card and are a race baiter. Pure and simple.

The reason I used Stormfront.com as a source was not because I thought anything they said was reliable, it was because I was using it as a reference to support the fact that such people with such beliefs exist. That is it. It would be like using Mein Kampf as a source for a statement about Hitlers beliefs and then being attacked as a racist for using Mein Kampf as a source. The absurdity of that is beyond comprehension.

The problem isn't me, It's you and others like you who want to interpret something as benign as the edits I made as racist simply because you don't like them. You're right about one thing though, I don't care about what you think. I've had more than enough experience with you in the past to take nothing you say seriously. During my RFA you made a post on my talk page about how much you "respected me" and how wrong you were for misinterpreting my actions on the Homeopathy article as harmful, and then not 1 day later you (yet again) misinterpret my edits and actions and then attack me as being racist and strike out your comments about respecting me.

A problem with a lot of wikipedians is that they are so uneasy about the possibility of racism on Misplaced Pages they interpret people who make edits they disagree with as racist. Any edit that is even vaguely against the grain of what is expected when it comes to race is labeled racist, regardless of the intentions of the editor. Wikidudeman 20:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Ouch. This did not help matters any. I think you have many strengths but this is very disappointing. You might want to cool off a little and look at this post later and strike out or redact or refactor or whatever a few parts.--Filll (talk) 23:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Time to get rid of you. Reading comprehension issues? Others like me? OrangeMarlin 23:39, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

How about: move on folks, there's nothing to see here. We're really not accomplishing anything by draggimg this out further. If WDM has an RfA again, bring it up there. Really, enough. •Jim62sch• 01:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

There won't be another RFA. Ever. The only reason the people who changed their votes supported me at first was because of the fact that everyone else was, but once a few people started opposing, then the Dam broke. People whom I had crossed paths with in the past only supported me because they thought I was going to become an admin and wanted to be on my good side, but once they noticed that there was a chance I might not make it...Well you know the story. Far too many editors spend far too much time "playing the game" and politicking their way in hopes of becoming administrator or in attempts to avoid anyone challenging them. POV pushers also do it so that they aren't called out. I too used to do it but I can't do that anymore. Filll, Please... Orangemarlin, Don't threaten me. Wikidudeman 00:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh my. I hope you do not really think I am threatening you. I was just stupidly trying to be helpful and suggest ways that things could be fixed for next time. I apologize, I don't mean to be disrespectful. And I supported you because I think you would be a good admin. No other reason. Believe it or not.--Filll (talk) 01:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the "don't threaten me" was to you, Filll. That was for Orangemarlin. Dudeman said "Please" to you, which I interpretted, I guess, as a "PuhlEEze", i.e..... Friarslantern (talk) 20:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't change my vote. You would probably have been a good admin. ——Martin ☎ Ψ Φ—— 01:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Friar, Indeed, It was to Orangemarlin. Martinphi, I have a feeling that given the chance you would have changed to oppose and only didn't do so because you didn't notice the flood of opposes. If however you wouldn't have, then you get my respect for not being vindictive. Wikidudeman 02:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Reading the above, I get the feeling that changing would not have been justified at all. But I didn't bother reviewing the evidence personally, so I don't know for absolute sure. ——Martin ☎ Ψ Φ—— 02:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I feel you deserved it and wouldn't have changed my vote. I should have changed my vote from "neutral" to "support" in your first RfA, and I apologize for not doing so in time. I know you said you won't be trying again, but good luck when you do. Make sure you send me an email letting me know. --Nealparr 06:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hello Wikidudeman, I've granted rollback rights to your account. You would have received rollback had your RfA passed, but since it didn't, I thought I'd give it to you. For more information on rollback, see Misplaced Pages:New admin school/Rollback and Misplaced Pages:Rollback feature. If you don't want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck. Acalamari 21:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I tested it out. I don't plan to fight vandalism anymore unless it appears on a page I am watching, but it might come in handy. Or it might not. Either way, thanks. Wikidudeman 02:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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Wikidudeman, Thank you for your support in my RFA which passed 43/0/1. I would like to especially thank Bibliomaniac15 for being my nominator and admin coach. I would also like to thank Rudget for being my co-nominator. I'm sure that I can live up to the community's expectations as an administrator, and not totally mess everything up. Thanks again for your support! Malinaccier (talk) 17:30, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

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child support

Hi,

I am new to editing wikipedia pages. I don't know all the rules. I discovered a fundamental flaw (incorrect interpretation of federal statute) on (apparently) your post. I attempted to correct it several times, and when it was reverted back to its original state, I attempted to delete it several times. I assumed there was some type of bot monitoring for change and automatically reverting back to your post. Finally, I noticed a message bar stating I must fill out a form when doing so. I apologize for inadvertently violating wikipedia's policy. That being said, your description of federal statute regulating the priority of child support payments is flat out wrong. The percentages from the study may be correct, but only insofar as the percentage of those funds paid to the government are from families which are currently receiving monthly checks from the government in the form of welfare. Current support collected for child support is only remitted to the State during months in which the family is receiving monetary benefits from the government. The government does not "steal from the poor and give to itself," at least as far as child support is concerned (taxes are another issue).

Respectfully,

-Rob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.8.167 (talk) 02:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You must be confused, I've never edited that article. Wikidudeman 22:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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speeedy.js

Although it is not immediately apparent your speeedy.js page is categorised in Category:Misplaced Pages pages needing cleanup, can you please remove it form the category. If you need help to do this, just ask. Rich Farmbrough, 20:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC).

I'll take care of this. Rich Farmbrough, 14:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC).

RSV article

Gentleman, I have found numerous errors, omissions, and obsolete material in your resveratrol entry. I would be happy to discuss these with you however I prefer to do this before potentially wasting time and effort in submitting edits which are quickly overwritten. James Betz, PhD

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RSV article

Dear Editor, In the past I have attempted to correct some of the errors in the resveratrol page and my edits have immediately been overwritten. What is the point of having a community based informational forum if the editor takes a dictatorial stance towards edits? 88.7.3.207 (talk) 09:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC) James

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Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted

I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon, 1-3 June. Registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, then please register by May 1st and mention it in the registration form.

This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, teaching, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.

We want to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!

I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.

Best wishes! - Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page, here or at mediawiki.org. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 01:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

New Rational Skepticism WikiProject member asking for look at Theosophy entry

Since you are an active participant in the Rational Skepticism WikiProject, would you mind looking over the Misplaced Pages entry on Theosophy to see if you find any concerns?

I've been ordered to fix the page so that it accords with my understanding of the NPOV policy. I'm happy to do that but I have a lot of work at my job.

Now I've been told that I must make the changes by April 30th or the NPOV tag will be removed. I simply can't learn how to use Misplaced Pages as a newcomer, become familiar with all the sources, and make the edits if I must do it all by April 30th.

Would you look over the Theosophy page? Also, can you recommend anything? Thanks much,Factseducado (talk) 15:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Black Supremacy article

Hey, sorry to bug you about this, but ever since you and other Wikipedians reached consensus on how the first sentence in the Black Supremacy article should read (a consensus which included the word 'racist'), the article has experienced continual back-and-forth editing, mostly from IP addresses that seem to not take too kindly to the agreed-upon sentence. I've recently thrown my hat in the ring by trying to monitor the page and correct it following "drive-by" edits, but I wanted to alert you to the situation too, mostly because another user has accused me of sockpuppetry (which I am not), so I might not be able to edit the page in the near future. Hopefully, you can throw an eye every now and then just to check that it is the consensus version that is presented and not someone else's. The way the article is now (per my most recent edit, reverting another user that went against the consensus version) is the way I believe most closely follows the agreed-upon version that you and others came to in the past. Anyways, thanks for reading. Accreditor (talk) 03:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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Missing picture on your User page

I noticed that you have a picture with a broken link on your User page under "Hard Worker Award". I just thought you'd like to know. Cheers! --Rockower (talk) 02:41, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Fuck you. Oh, almost forgot four tildes Creste (talk) 22:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

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