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== Hello again! ==


New investigation launched, by me, on guess ]! ] (]) 08:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
== New Year ! ==


:This is oddly satisfying. ] (]) 08:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
== Your ] nomination of ] ==
::Hi HyperShark244. I’ll take a look in a moment. ] (]) 13:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've ] the article ] you nominated for ]-status according to the ]. ] This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. <!-- Template:GANotice --> <!-- Template:GANotice --> <small>Message delivered by ], on behalf of ]</small> -- ] (]) 15:21, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Only seems somewhat worth reporting, as SheryOfficial is still using this as recent as yesterday , as yourself also noticed. Though others seem to be using this range as well. The user account you included doesn't seem to be them, not the same patterns. ] (]) 14:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
== Your ] nomination of ] ==
::::OK. I didn’t find anything that I would consider an obvious giveaway from Apni_Baat, however I did see some suspicious things, which is why I thought it was a good idea to request for a check on them. Also would you recommend adding ? This is the cluster of IPs behind , and recently, . ] (]) 15:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
The article ] you nominated as a ] has passed ]; see ] for comments about the article, and ] for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a '''bold link''' under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can ] within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility.<!-- Template:GANotice result=pass --> <!-- Template:GANotice --> <small>Message delivered by ], on behalf of ]</small> -- ] (]) 15:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
:::::Ops, not sure why I never replied to this. Either it was too late or I forgot I guess?? I'm sorry for that. ] (]) 00:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::No worries, Shery is now back at it seems. ] (]) 10:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I see. Something is definitely off here, I'll keep an eye. Thanks for letting me know! ] (]) 13:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)


== Just curious ==
== Hi, about asking your opinion and Sarduri II ==


Hello, dear Historyofiran. I don't know why you reverted my changes even not checking anything with some kind of negative notes. You mentioned that "even you admitted yourself that this is plagiarism". You could just check that I fully rewrote whole content of text. And I gave credit as well ] (]) 16:01, 20 February 2023 (UTC) I see you all over iranian wikipedia like everywhere what is your goal exactly also that map you made of the sassanids what sources did you use? ] (]) 17:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:I see, you did try to alter it, my bad; I did actually look but I misread it somehow. Though it was still considered plagiarism here . --] (]) 17:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


So can I revert it back or no? ] (]) 22:39, 21 February 2023 (UTC) :Hi again MrHappy2020. Just a hobby. I don't really recall which sources I used, though the afromentioned Rezakhani was amongst them. ] (]) 17:32, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::I would really like the sources for the map as i have talked with other Sassanian map makers and sometimes they agreed with you and sometimes they didnt ] (]) 11:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:Not if it was considered plagiarism by an admin too. This for example, is more or less the same word for word just changed places a bit; "His conquest of the remainder of Commagene and Urartu's complete victory over Assyria in Mannai are proudly described in a second 500-line tablet." / "Another 500-line text describes with pride his conquest of the rest of Commagene and Urartu's complete triumph over Assyria in Mannai." See ] for more info. --] (]) 23:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Sorry, but I still don't really recall which sources I used. ] (]) 12:07, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I asked you something on the Sasanian empire wiki i would like to bring back the discussion about the map on it ] (]) 12:10, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


== Latest Revert == == PakistanHistorian ==


Hey @], Do you think the IP commenting at ] {{userlinks|PakistanHistorian}}, I think they are but you have dealt with them more than me so thought should ask for confirmation and do you know an admin who is familiar with this sock and maybe be more willing to handle them effectively so I do not have to waste my time discussing their disruption and vandalism with them. Also, do you have any thoughts on the topic itself? It is a pity that I am forced to discuss with an editor who is evading their block just because they keep reverting and edit warring on multiple pages. ] &#124; ] &#124; 15:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
I made a edit to "Religion in Armenia" which I edited the percentage because they weren't correct but you decided to revert them. I have now edited it back and please don't change it for I searched on sites and even calculated the numbers to get this result. ] (]) 13:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
:Not how it works. You need to cite reliable sources for this, you cant just alter already sourced information because you did your own supposed searches. --] (]) 14:00, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
==] has been nominated for merging==


:Hi Sheriff. Definitely something suspicious, but I'm actually a bit unsure about their connection to PakistanHistorian. They have the same geolocation PakistanHistorians suspected IPs and are also interested in Punjabi related stuff. It seems they have been active in this range at least several times . I do have some thoughts about this, I've written a comment in the talk page. ] (]) 15:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>''']''' has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 07:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


== Your ] nomination of ] ==
==GAN==
The article ] you nominated as a ] has passed ]; see ] for comments about the article, and ] for the nomination. Well done! If the article is ] in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can ] within the next seven days.<!-- Template:GANotice result=pass --> <!-- Template:GANotice --> <small>Message delivered by ], on behalf of ]</small> -- ] (]) 06:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, hope you're doing well. I have a request: would it be possible for you to do some reviews at GAN? At the moment, you have 59 GAs and a few more up for nomination, but you haven't done any reviews.
This would also help with your placing in the queue, which has been reordered so that people with a higher ratio of reviewers to nominations are placed higher. ] (]) 13:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
:Hello AirshipJungleman29, thank you and likewise. Yeah, I guess it's finally about time I try to dip my feet in that realm. --] (]) 15:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks for already getting started! I find that doing two or more reviews for every nomination is a good ratio. ] (]) 17:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


== Disruptor == == Advice ==


Hello, HistoryofIran.
I don't know who Patriotic afghan can be; I found no evidence of socking though it seems like a sock account. ] (]) 23:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Drmies}} I see. Well, at the rate they're going, they're gonna get themselves easily blocked anyways. --] (]) 23:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
==] has been nominated for renaming==


The ] is engaging in disrupte editing. Neither does this IP provide sources and is POV pushing. And this IP has been warned multiple times for this on his/her talk page.
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>''']''' has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 10:49, 4 March 2023 (UTC)


I asked for an intervention in ], but to no avail, and for a temporary block in ], which was rejected as insufficient to warrant a block.
== ANI ==


After he/she was blocked for 24 hours, this IP created an account as ] in order to evade the block and has resumed his/her POV pushing.
You may use ] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:ANI-notice--> ] (]) 16:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC) to do so.
==] has been nominated for merging==


Do you have any additional advice?
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>''']''' has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the ] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. ] (]) 16:22, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


Kindest regards, ] (]) 16:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
== Recent removal of edit ==


:Hi Moroike. This should hopefully do the job . ] (]) 17:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi, how is the edit I put about R.S Sharma on the Kamboja wiki plagiarism. I quoted her words but didn't pass them off as my own. ] (]) 00:05, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you for the reply and thank you very much for the vandalism alert about this IP.
:Sorry, I didn't realize that was your intention. If you're gonna quote her (or someone else for that matter), you have to write the exact quote (not even slightly change it), and put it in quotation marks. --] (]) 00:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
::The IP's account ] has been permanently blocked, but the IP will almost certainly resume his/her POV pushing, once his/her 24 hour block ends.
::no problem ] (]) 00:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
::The IP has also done the same POV pushing under different IP numbers, which you can see in the history section of the article ].
::How come the removal of this passage? It was well sourced and relates to the previous Assakenian section which is a crucial part of the history.
::Kindest regards, ] (]) 17:48, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::'Acording to Arrian(IV.24.6–25, 4), the Aśvaka followed a scorched Earth policy and describes an event during Alexander the Greats invasion, ''Then crossing the mountains Alexander descended to a city called Arigaeum, and found that this had been set on fire by the inhabitants, who had afterwards fled.'' Quintus Curtius Rufus(VIII.10.23–9) vivdly describes the moment Alexander the Great was wounded in the calf by an Assacani arrow during a scouting operation of the city of Masaga. When the battle of Masaga commenced, the Assacani gained a reputation for their women fighting side by side with their husbands in what was a last stand for survival' ] (]) 13:38, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Did you even read my edit summary? --] (]) 13:40, 16 March 2023 (UTC) :::If they continue (which I also think is a high possibility), then a range block seems to be the best opinion - it's probably best for it to be requested through a ]. This seems to the range they're using . I would wait for them to continue before filing a SPI, so your case is taken fully serious. ] (]) 22:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::your reasoning was in reference to Lamotte whereas the source in reference to Arrian and Q.Curtius was by ] ] and ] ] (]) 13:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC) ::::Thank you. ] (]) 05:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Lamotte does not treat it as a fact, he suggests it as a theory. The UNESCO source you used simply quotes Arrian and Q. Curtius, however, neither of those two historians actually mention the Kambojas, they mention the Assakenoi, who in the UNESCO source are ironically treated as a separate people from the Kambojas, i.e. the UNESCO source mentions both groups, but not as one group. In other words, you went on to treat a theory as a fact, and by using a source which don't even support the theory a that. Moreover, this theory is on the realm of ], I could easily name various sources that do not consider the Kambojas to be the same as the Assakenoi. And no, a source doesn't have to directly say Assakenoi =/= Kambojas for it to mean that they don't consider that theory to be valid, that's not how books are written. If a book talks about the Kambojas, and don't mention the events of Alexander (or vice versa), then they obviously do not consider the Kambojas and Assakenoi to be the same. --] (]) 13:49, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::Also filling an article with quotes because you don't want to rewrite the sentences is not an improvement. --] (]) 13:51, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Quoting Diodorus would be better since its a long quote (avoids clutter) ] (]) 13:53, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::I never claimed they were Kambojas in that edit, only Assakenian as its relevant to the previous section in reference to them ] (]) 13:51, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::Assumptions on what is not stated would be ] which states 'Its content is determined by prev published info rather than editors beliefs, opinions or experiences' so simply stating they believe they're not same due to no mention would be going against Wikipedias rule ] (]) 13:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::It's not just Diodorus, you quote a lot of stuff, and when you do rewrite it, it's often different from the sourced material. You are contradicting yourself. If the Kambojas are not the Assakenoi then why is it relevant to have the whole history or at least a major part of their history in the Kambojas article? Also, I did not understand a word of your ] comment. Anyhow, my points above still stand. Please cease this, read ] too. --] (]) 13:58, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::::You stated 'if a book talks about the Kambojas, and don't mention the events of Alexander (or vice versa), then they obviously do not consider the Kambojas and Assakenoi to be the same' which goes against wikiepedias rule on ] which states that 'Its content is determined by prev published info rather than editors beliefs, opinions or experiences', so simply stating they believe Kambojas and Assakanoi are not same due to no mention would be going against Wikipedias rule.
::::::::Please add your opposite view point in Kambojas not being Assakenois and follow ] which states that 'if a reliable source disagrees then maintain a Neutral point of view and present what the VARIOUS sources say giving EACH SIDE its due weight'. Simply removing them due to your own opinions, inferences and evidence is not allowed. Provide both sides.
::::::::Also I will rewrite them then. No issue ] (]) 14:08, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::That's not what ] means... you are clearly misinterpretating. Want sources? Check the sources in the Bibliography. Zero mention of the Assakenoi being the Kambojas, zero mention of the Kambojas fighting Alexander. The most recent major source for the Kambojas doesn't mention it either . I think you should leave this article alone till you have learned of our guidelines and how to write articles, see how ] articles are written for example. I feel like I have been more than enough patient, you aren't exactly a brand new user either, you have been heavily editing since January. If you continue this pattern, I will report you to ] for lack of ] and whatnot. Also, I assume the articles you have heavily edited (], ], ]) have received the same treatment that Kambojas did, one might ought to check that. Those edits should probably be reverted too. --] (]) 14:19, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::I ma sure I understand it well, as it describes it as it is, simply 'Its content is determined by prev published info rather than editors beliefs, opinions or experiences, in your case your belief that no mention = doesnt approve of theory/belief.
::::::::::No problem, I will also be reporting you too ] (]) 14:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ironically you're the one using your personal opinion by treating a theory as a fact, and then using ] which contradicts that opinion to support it. Feel free to report me (]). --] (]) 14:25, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


== Battle of Amritsar == == Happy holidays! ==


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Hey there! I just want to let you know that Hari Ram Gupta's the history of Sikhs is in fact a reliable source since it is written by an academic.Various scholars and historians have used his work in their own papers and books aswell.Also my apologies if i may have accidentally altered any previously cited information,most of the previously cited info prior to my revision is still on the page to my knowledge. ] (]) 00:35, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
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:Hello. Sorry, I may have been too hasty on what I did and said. I retracted my comment regarding the source. I won't say more till I have properly checked the changes, though I'm probably too lazy to do that. Bests. --] (]) 00:36, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
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::don't worry brother it's fine.I will improve on the article and fix any mistakes that i have made.Take care ] (]) 03:20, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
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== علی‌نژاد ==
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:Hi Theofunny. Thank you very much and likewise! ] (]) 21:13, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi
::Welcome! ] (]) 21:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


== Edits of user 5.74.69.152 ==


Hi there, would you please review ] of this IP? I'm not really an expert in the areas where their edits have been done, but it looks like you might be. Thanks, ] (]) 01:48, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Please check my description of the edit for changing the surname to ''علی‌نژاد'' ] (]) 01:21, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Shkuru Afshar}} Hello. Sorry, I had a howler there, with the Persian name too. --] (]) 01:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
== Your ] nomination of ] ==
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:Hi Kiwipete. IP seems to be pov pushing, adding Persian-related stuff and removing Arab-related stuff. I've reverted the rest of their edits, best. ] (]) 11:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== Tariqa page ==


== Farsi? ==
Naqshabandis have dual silsilat. One through Abu Bakr and one through Ali. I’m unsure why you won’t let me add this fact to the wiki on Tariqa. ] (]) 12:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:Because you're altering sourced information. In Misplaced Pages we rely only ], not our personal opinions. See also ]. --] (]) 12:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


Hi HistoryofIran, long time no speak. Do you understand Farsi, or know an editor who does? At FAC we have couple of Farsi sources which we need someone to check to ensure that they match what the article says. Thanks. ] (]) 12:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::can you read arabic? Here is a scan of the silsila of Naqshabandi Sheikh Mehmet Effendi in arabic will you let me fix it now?


:Hi Gog, long time no speak indeed. I understand Farsi, but unfortunately not its script.. so yeah. Though ChatGPT has never failed to deliver with its excellent translations when I've used it. Perhaps you could be interested in this one, {{ping|Hounaam}}? You obviously don't have to reply, just thought of your nice recent edits. ] (]) 22:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::https://ibb.co/PYQFM7v ] (]) 12:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::Dear @] Thank you so much for reaching out and for your trust in me. While my specialization lies in art and culture, reviewing Persian texts and inscriptions is certainly within my expertise, and I’m more than happy to assist.
:::Sorry, but that's not how it works, a random picture isn't gonna suffice. Please see ]. --] (]) 12:43, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::@] It’s always a pleasure to contribute to such meaningful work, and I’m grateful for the opportunity to support the team in any way I can. ] (]) 15:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::From ‘Rashahat ayn al-hayat’ by Ali Safi Kashifi.
:::{{u|Jo-Jo Eumerus}}, {{@FAC}}: we seem, perhaps belatedly, to have a Farsi reader. Perhaps it would be worth running the sources and text past {{u|Hounaam}}, even if it is just advance planning for the next FAC? ] (]) 16:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::https://ibb.co/L6Q8N11
::::Sounds like a plan. And sources to spot check, too. ] (]) 16:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::https://ibb.co/QvCNs2q
:::::I shall leave you, Hounaam and {{u|Amir Ghandi}} to it then. And many thanks to HistoryofIran for facilitating this. (If you fancy reviewing an article, you could try ] {{smiley}} .) ] (]) 17:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
::::now may I please correct the article? ] (]) 14:31, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::with pleasure, thanks for your trust.
:::::Can you please read ] and ]? Where is the source even from? Who is Ali Safi Kashifi? --] (]) 14:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::Cheers! and Happy New Year! ] (]) 17:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)


== Shahrokh page == == Siyâvush Beg Gorji ==


Hi HistoryofIran,
What you do in shahrokh afshar page it was wrong information Suleiman never rulled to until 1796 ] (]) 17:25, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:You added Shahrokh as his own predecessor twice, which made no sense. The article is based on scholarly sources, you cant just change that. --] (]) 17:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::because its wrong
::The first reigon exactly tell the time that shahrokh was ruled and not adel shah and for better understanding you can see it in his description
::And again in secend reigon he was the ruler
::And not suleiman
::And even at 1796 shahrokh visited the agha mohammad khan qajar, Not suleiman
::if you think it can make problem to article
::Then tell me how we put instead of it
::Maybe it better i prepare 3 reigon for article ] (]) 17:42, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I think you're misunderstanding what the infobox is trying to display, it's not saying that Shahrokh didnt rule in 1796. Either way, we follow what ] says, not our personal opinions. --] (]) 17:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::::sorry are you persian? For better talking i say
::::Ok i make article in another way ] (]) 17:52, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::I am, but I cant read the Persian script. And can you please not change the article again without any ]? ] (]) 18:19, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::sure
::::::I try my best ] (]) 18:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::oh man why??? That was true, that is shahrokh page and he ruled khorasan twice and soleiman II ruled betwin him
::::::Why the predecessor is adel shah if even the adel wasn't before shahrokh and it was ebrahim afshar
::::::Why 2 reign if there is 3? and how the hell Suleiman II ruled to 1796!!!
::::::I think maybe you don't know about this ] (]) 20:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Can you please read the article? Then all your questions will be answered. Your edits make no sense, you added that Shahrokh was his own predecessor thrice? --] (]) 20:10, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Oh relly sorry
::::::::I try my last chance hope you know what i wanna do, i'm not that person how distroy pages
::::::::These are my early edits and i'm amateur ] (]) 20:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::{{ping|Iranist00001}} Please don't try that again. The infobox is good, it's based on the article itself, which is fully sourced. It doesn't need to be changed. --] (]) 20:56, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


You are absolutely right about the need for exact references regarding Siyâvush Beg Gorji. What we currently have is Siavashon (Savashon), which relates to art of Safavid. I’ve added a note to the text emphasizing that further research is necessary. Hopefully, this will encourage researchers to explore this topic in greater detail.
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Best regards, ] (]) 14:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
== A cup of tea for you! ==


:Hi Kanahmad. Sorry, but that's not good enough. We need to cite (]) ] that supports our additions. Best. ] (]) 14:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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::Hi HistoryofIran,
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::Thank you for your reply. I think that reaching out to researchers and sharing this topic is a great idea. It’s also worth noting that another Georgian painter, who is buried in Zavarek, might be a relative of Siyâvush Beg Gorji. He served as both a painter and a military commander under Nader Shah.
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Don't give up with your work mate! ] (]) 20:44, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
::Best regards, ] (]) 14:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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::Thank you! --] (]) 11:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


== Happy holidays! ==
==Double standards?==
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Could you explain a bit more why you insist that Turkic dynasties in Central Asia should be qualified as "Persianized" in the first sentence of the lead , but refuse that ] should be described as "Turkified" in the same way, inspite of the sources? (Encyclopædia Iranica "THE SAFAVIDS": ") Isn't that double standards? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]]</span> ] 10:49, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
'''Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages in 2024! Wishing you a Very happy and productive 2025! ♦ ] (]) 21:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:It's already mentioned in the lede that the dynasty was Turkified, which is what your source says. Your comparison would make more sense if we talked about the culture/state/country of the Safavids, which sources unanimously call Iranian/Persian, something you tried to change. Could you please explain why you are so against the notion of an Iranian country that you used the articles names for all kingdoms but the Safavids and Qajars? . You do know that "Iran" was literally the official name of their state? --] (]) 10:56, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
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::*I could reply as well that "Persianized" was already in the lead of these articles about Turkish polities , and that to use an adjective describing cultural influences ("Persianized") as the first adjective of the first sentence is rather undue, and unusual on Misplaced Pages (because of cultural influences being usually so complex and better left to later stages of an article, and because it feels like an attempt at cultural appropriation by a nationalistic user). If you keep insisting that the ] shoud be described in the first sentence as "a culturally Persianate Turco-Mongol empire" , then why do you refuse that ] could be described as "a Turkified Iranian empire" (Reference: Encyclopædia Iranica "THE SAFAVIDS": ") It makes no sense, and is not coherent. And I don't think Misplaced Pages approves of using an adjective related to cultural influences in such a frontal manner in the lead sentence anyway.
::*As to "]" or "]" for article titles, I am quite sure that these are not appropriate, and that they should be ]/Dynasty and ]/ Dynasty, as for other history articles on Misplaced Pages. We do not have an article entitled "]" or "]", but of course we have ] and ]. I am afraid your enthousiasm in putting the word "]" everywhere distorts your understanding of Misplaced Pages naming conventions... Similar issue with placing "Persianized" in every possible lead sentence... <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]]</span> ] 11:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
::If you think I am being disruptive; by all means, report me to ], but beware of ]. But please stop wasting my time by repeating the nonsensical arguments, what's the point of me answering you, even including ], if you're just gonna word-for-word ]? What you're doing is essentially ] (your arguments still make no sense either, we have ] for example, but why would it be relevant for what you add in those horrible looking maps..?). You might also want to read ]. Also, stop making up your own rules for these "Misplaced Pages naming conventions", I always back my claims with ], something you're unable to. --] (]) 11:46, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
:::There is obviously plenty sources to go by, and even though I am very well aware that you're gonna ignore this one too, here is a ] by a leading scholar in Safavid studies-*ahem* I mean a nationalistic source by an author with a distorted view of history and enthuasism for the word "Iran(ian)". He even included "Safavid Iran" in the title, how preposterous!;


:Hi Maliner. Thank you and likewise, happy new year! ] (]) 12:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::"Persian culture, its legacy, and its continued production, played an even more vital part in the overarching Iranian sense of self, to the point where Safavid Iran may be called an incarnation of the age-old Iranian "empire of the mind," in Michael Axworthy's apt phrase.27 So strong was the gravitas of Persianate culture, that, in spite of their vastly greater material resources, the Mughals deferred to Safavid Iran; and, in conditions not dissimilar to that of the British in modern America, Iranians moving to the Subconti nent readily found employment at the Mughal court on account of their presumed cultural sophistication. Its most important component, the Per sian language, was crucial as a medium tying together the diverse groups inhabiting the country, both as a vehicle of communication and as a cultural repository. Of course, Iran was multilingual; as they continue to do today, the country's inhabitants spoke a number of different languages, from Persian and Kurdish to Turkish and Arabic. Paradoxically, Safavid shahs usually conversed in Turkish. But Persian was the mother tongue of the country's urban elite and the core political and administrative language of the entire realm. Persian was also the language of culture, above all of poetry-as it was for the entire area between the Balkans and the Deccan-where it functioned as a lingua franca.28 / Safavid literature and especially poetry, the supreme expression of the Persian language, linked the past, including the pre-Islamic past, to the present and served as a shared cultural repertoire, not just for the elite but for the common people as well, at least in urban areas. Iran's national epic, Firdawsi's Shahnamah in particular connected a mythological pre-Islamic Iranian past, filled with heroic kings engaged in the eternal struggle between good and evil, to the Islamic, Safavid present with its own potent symbols of justice and redemption" - pp. 243-244, ] (1 September 2009). "Was Safavid Iran an Empire?". Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient. 53 (1).


== Hazaras article ==
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== Your ] nomination of ] ==
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== Your ] nomination of ] ==
Seems to be Pov edits, what do you think? ] (]) 11:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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:Also check the article on the tribes of Hazaras where cited content has been removed despite objection by you and another editor. ] (]) 11:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hi Theofunny. Thank you very much for letting me know. It definitely seems fishy, I'll look into it. ] (]) 14:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

== Appeal to approve my earlier changes ==
{{atop|And that's enough of that. Take it to a forum. --] (]) 20:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)}}
The Nakhchivan Khanate had a flag and the coat of arms. I don't understand the reason you reverted the changes and removed the flag and the coat of arms ] (]) 14:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:Ops, forgot to mention those two. They're not supported by any ]. ] (]) 15:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I made a research of the editing history of this article and seen that there was a language that a person wanted to add to the languages officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate. In response you reverted the changes back and told him that the language he wanted to add was not officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate. But then someone added the same language again and nothing was reverted back. What is the reason you ignored those changes? Is that language now considered as one of the languages that have been officially spoken there? ] (]) 15:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

::Please don't create multiple sections for the same article, it's just gonna make it messy. And I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, linking diffs would be helpful. And most importantly of all, please read ]. --] (]) 15:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nakhichevan_Khanate&diff=prev&oldid=1167805670 here you are saying that this language was not officially spoken there
:::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nakhichevan_Khanate&diff=prev&oldid=1177447457 here are the changes that have been ignored by your side ] (]) 16:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::What..? First diff I remove are unofficial, irrelevant languages in the lede, the other diff a random IP adds Armenian under common languages in the infobox, where Azerbaijani is also mentioned - what do they have to do with each other? Why do you even know of such diffs so long ago, do you have other, older accounts? Also, I don't appreciate you doing this . You do not decide what article I want to edit. And that's not "ancient cities and khanates of Azerbaijan" per ], Azerbaijan first becoming a country in 1918, here are many relevant ] citations . ] (]) 16:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::I don't understand the reason you are accusing me of these things and the reason you are almost unkind to me. So you are telling me that a random IP can make changes to a article and it's going to be ignored? Then why didn't you ignore my changes and the changes that were done in the first link i sent to you? You are accusing me of having older accounts that literally makes no sense, because anyone can see what edits have been done to an article the whole time. I could even have other accounts and I don't understand what's so bad about it? In the first link you can see that someone adds a language, then you revert his changes back. I noticed that you specifically ignored the changes done in the second link i sent to you. And you are the one accusing me of having other accounts? I know that Azerbaijan became a country in 1918. Before becoming a country this territory consisted of khanates. These khanates didn't want to unite much earlier and that's why Azerbaijan became a country only in 1918. Honestly I didn't go into details and thought that in the first link user adds Armenian in the infobox. Okay. If you are telling me that you removed the unofficial Armenian language that has not been officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate (we are talking about the first link here), then why did you let a random IP address Armenian to the infobox? I don't appreciate you doing these. I was never rude to you all this time and you are telling me that i don't decide what article you want to edit when I never told you that. You are right, these khanates were not officially a part of Azerbaijan, but i want to note that people in this territory are called Azerbaijani, and there are even 30 million Azerbaijani people living in the territory of current Iran which is also called Southern Azerbaijan because even many people who are citizens of Iran consider themselves Azerbaijanis, there are 30 million of those people. I'm telling you this so you know that these people live on these lands since a very long time, there is no way that so many people just randomly appeared here. ] (]) 17:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::{{tq|So you are telling me that a random IP can make changes to a article and it's going to be ignored?}}
::::::I think you're heavily misunderstanding something here. Please re-read my comment.
::::::{{tq|Then why didn't you ignore my changes and the changes that were done in the first link i sent to you?}}
::::::You were already told of this.
::::::{{tq|You are accusing me of having older accounts that literally makes no sense, because anyone can see what edits have been done to an article the whole time. I could even have other accounts and I don't understand what's so bad about it? And you are the one accusing me of having other accounts?}}
::::::I asked you if have older accounts, you could just say yes or no (it's not against the rules to have more than one account, you just need to mention it on your userpages though). It's really not that serious. Yes, but very rarely does something jump to diff almost 2 years ago and bring them up.
::::::{{tq|Okay. If you are telling me that you removed the unofficial Armenian language that has not been officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate (we are talking about the first link here), then why did you let a random IP address Armenian to the infobox?}}
::::::Please re-read my comment and look at that edit again, it's located in "common_languages" in the infobox. "Common" and "Official" are not the same thing.
::::::{{tq|you are telling me that i don't decide what article you want to edit when I never told you that.}}
::::::Then why did you randomly tagging me and ask others why I am "controlling" "articles of ancient cities and khanates of Azerbaijan" despite "not being a member" of WikiProject Azerbaijan...? Is there a rule for that?
::::::{{tq|You are right, these khanates were not officially a part of Azerbaijan, but i want to note that people in this territory are called Azerbaijani, and there are even 30 million Azerbaijani people living in the territory of current Iran which is also called Southern Azerbaijan because even many people who are citizens of Iran consider themselves Azerbaijanis, there are 30 million of those people. I'm telling you this so you know that these people live on these lands since a very long time, there is no way that so many people just randomly appeared here.}}
::::::Misplaced Pages does engage in anachronism, and follows ]. Please read the policy. ] (]) 17:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::# So what is the reason you ignored the user in the second link? How did a random IP get away with it so easy?
:::::::# Some of your questions are unnecessary and having multiple accounts is not that serious.
:::::::# I asked that question in the talk of project Azerbaijan because of my own free will, if i'm interested in something i can know the answer, there is nothing wrong with asking those questions and there is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm new here, that's why i'm not a member of project Azerbaijan but i can be one in the future too if i want to.
:::::::# I also asked that question because it would seem weird not only to me but also to others that a user that doesn't participate in project Azerbaijan but specifically participates not only in project Armenia but also many other things related to Armenia controls the article of khanate that now is a city of Azerbaijan
:::::::# So you can't tell how so many people of one ethnicity can appear on these land in a very little time because it's physically impossible to reproduce that fast.
:::::::] (]) 18:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::{{tq|So what is the reason you ignored the user in the second link? How did a random IP get away with it so easy?}}
::::::::Again, I have already answered this. There was nothing wrong with their edit, unless you mean to claim that Armenian was not spoken in the Nakhchevan Khanate at all. The more important question is why are you swapping the place of Armenian and Kurdish, so the former appears lower? .
::::::::{{tq|Some of your questions are unnecessary and having multiple accounts is not that serious.}}
::::::::I find it pretty relevant to ask when you bring up two random diffs from almost 2 years ago. And I know it's not that serious, I just said that.
::::::::{{tq|I asked that question in the talk of project Azerbaijan because of my own free will, if i'm interested in something i can know the answer, there is nothing wrong with asking those questions and there is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm new here, that's why i'm not a member of project Azerbaijan but i can be one in the future too if i want to.}}
::::::::There are more polite ways to do that. Such as simply asking me now that you're here.
::::::::{{tq|I also asked that question because it would seem weird not only to me but also to others that a user that doesn't participate in project Azerbaijan but specifically participates not only in project Armenia but also many other things related to Armenia controls the article of khanate that now is a city of Azerbaijan}}
::::::::WikiProjects aren't that serious. It's just a little neat thing, everyone can easily become a "member". I had completely forgot that I was a "member" of WikiProject Armenia before you mentioned it.
::::::::{{tq|So you can't tell how so many people of one ethnicity can appear on these land in a very little time because it's physically impossible to reproduce that fast.}}
::::::::I linked you a plethora of ], you can read that. Speaking of which, have you read the ] policy yet? ] (]) 18:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::# You could add Armenian language yourself too if you are a big supporter of the changes made by the user in the second link. You contradict yourself. You told the user in the first link that Armenian was not officially spoken there and now you are telling me that it was a "former" language? Then what is stopping you from swapping Armenian and Azerbaijani?
:::::::::# I apologize if that hurt your feelings, but it's not impolite to asks questions that don't contain hate speech, harassment or sexually explicit language.
:::::::::# It's a little suspicious because everything in your profile is about supporting Armenia's actions.
:::::::::# I will take time and go into details of it, but some of the links you marked here hurt to read. These sources are not reliable at all and i don't think that they are approved.
:::::::::] (]) 18:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::{{tq|You could add Armenian language yourself too if you are a big supporter of the changes made by the user in the second link. You contradict yourself. You told the user in the first link that Armenian was not officially spoken there and now you are telling me that it was a "former" language? Then what is stopping you from swapping Armenian and Azerbaijani?}}
::::::::::What does that have to do with anything? I could add Armenian yes, I also couldn't. I could do a lot of things - which is my own business. I have other things to do than edit in Misplaced Pages. "Official" and "common" does still not mean the same thing.
::::::::::{{tq|I apologize if that hurt your feelings, but it's not impolite to asks questions that don't contain hate speech, harassment or sexually explicit language.}}
::::::::::Please look up the meaning of "impolite" as well.
::::::::::{{tq|It's a little suspicious because everything in your profile is about supporting Armenia's actions.}}
::::::::::That so? I have three things (out of 25) about Armenia on my userpage, the WikiProject Armenia, being interested in the history of ], and opposing the denial of the Armenian genocide. So how does that "support" Armenia's "actions"? Did the ] not happen? Please answer.
::::::::::{{tq|I will take time and go into details of it, but some of the links you marked here hurt to read. These sources are not reliable at all and i don't think that they are approved.}}
::::::::::It's clear you still haven't read ]. I am asking you for the fourth time to read it. ] (]) 19:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::# It's obvious that you are active here if you reverted my changes back and answered my questions in minutes. And i'm sure that if i swap Azerbaijani and Armenian languages you are going to ignore my changes.
:::::::::::# If someone says something wrong about, for example, your friend, something that is considered wrong about them, at least between you two, wouldn't you tell them about it right away? It would be a shame to ignore that and keep silent, right? So what do you want me to do? If I hadn't done that to my friend, it would be very impolite towards them.
:::::::::::# You are not kidding, right? The point of your profile is mostly to support Armenia's actions. The fact that you ask me this question means that everything that was added to the description of your account was added intentionally. I did not refute anything that was written in your profile but you don't support both sides at all, there is nothing about Azerbaijan in your profile yet you are here reverting back changes of article that belongs to the khanate which is now a city of Azerbaijan. Did Khojali genocide not happen? You are telling me that you have three things about Armenia but you also have 0 about Azerbaijan. You are here on Misplaced Pages 12 years and you are trying to tell me that you don't know everything so well? If you are going to tell me that it's the sources and you didn't do anything wrong: you are literally stating the sources that contain only negativity about Azerbaijan. You are not doing justice. Azerbaijan is all negativity to you. Can you people just live in peace? Tell me honestly do you really like to spread negativity?
:::::::::::# I'm telling you again, i opened one of the links you sent to me and i was frightened. Everything is against Azerbaijan here. The wprs is not reliable and these sources are not reliable at all.
:::::::::::] (]) 20:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Also i don't quite understand this "Misplaced Pages does engage in anachronism". Misplaced Pages says itself that there are 30 million people living in Iran. I opened up the en.wikipedia and it says 23 millions. Is this not convincing? Do you mean that this is anachronism? Then I can call everything i see "anachronism" on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 20:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{tq|It's obvious that you are active here if you reverted my changes back and answered my questions in minutes. And i'm sure that if i swap Azerbaijani and Armenian languages you are going to ignore my changes.}}
::::::::::::It seems you still don't get the difference between those two diffs. And you do not know me, so please refrain from making these kind of claims. And you did still not answer why you swapped Armenian and Kurdish, so that the former appeared last.
::::::::::::{{tq|If someone says something wrong about, for example, your friend, something that is considered wrong about them, at least between you two, wouldn't you tell them about it right away? It would be a shame to ignore that and keep silent, right? So what do you want me to do? If I hadn't done that to my friend, it would be very impolite towards them.}}
::::::::::::So... did the Armenian genocide happen? It's a simple yes or no question.
::::::::::::{{tq|You are not kidding, right? The point of your profile is mostly to support Armenia's actions. The fact that you ask me this question means that everything that was added to the description of your account was added intentionally. I did not refute anything that was written in your profile but you don't support both sides at all, there is nothing about Azerbaijan in your profile yet you are here reverting back changes of article that belongs to the khanate which is now a city of Azerbaijan. Did Khojali genocide not happen? You are telling me that you have three things about Armenia but you also have 0 about Azerbaijan. You are here on Misplaced Pages 12 years and you are trying to tell me that you don't know everything so well? If you are going to tell me that it's the sources and you didn't do anything wrong: you are literally stating the sources that contain only negativity about Azerbaijan. You are not doing justice. Azerbaijan is all negativity to you. Can you people just live in peace? Tell me honestly do you really like to spread negativity?}}
::::::::::::Sheer whataboutism. This is not an appropriate place for your issues with Armenia and its conflict with Azerbaijan. Please refrain from making ]/], and please take this somewhere else, eg. a forum. ] (]) 20:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::::# Tell me why would it be the other way. There were more Kurdish people than Armenian, so how is it possible that there is a bigger number of people that spoke Armenian?
:::::::::::::# It did happen, though, in many sources it's said that it was a war, not a genocide. What does this have to do with all i said above?
:::::::::::::# So do you betray your friends? This is a simple yes or no question.
:::::::::::::# Did the Khojali genocide happen? It's also a simple yes or no question.
:::::::::::::# I repeat that i don't quite understand this "Misplaced Pages does engage in anachronism". Misplaced Pages says itself that there are 30 million people living in Iran. I opened up the en.wikipedia and it says 23 millions. Is this not convincing? Do you mean that this is anachronism? Then I can call everything i see "anachronism" on Misplaced Pages.
:::::::::::::# I never mentioned neither any issues with any country nor any conflicts.
:::::::::::::] (]) 20:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Hazrat Ishaan stuff ==

Hello, me again. So a while back I did some clean-up on the article ], to make it look like a proper Misplaced Pages article. I also saw something some months ago on Reddit about some dude called Raphael Dakik, a German-Afghan who created a government-in-exile. I spent some time leaning about Dakik, and I have got an idea of who he is. So then I came across this, and decided to help Remote-Control65 out. After looking at ], I could see that they are somewhat of a ], all their contributions are basically like these. However, I think there is more to this guy- they could be a sockpuppet of Sayyid Mir Israfil, who I heard of from the Qadiriyya wa Naqshbandiyya page . I have launched an investigation ]. ] (]) 05:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

:Hi again HyperShark244. Interesting, something definitely seems off. I'll let you know if I find something. ] (]) 12:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hello again!

New investigation launched, by me, on guess who! HyperShark244 (talk) 08:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

This is oddly satisfying. HyperShark244 (talk) 08:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi HyperShark244. I’ll take a look in a moment. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Only 39.62.0.0/16 seems somewhat worth reporting, as SheryOfficial is still using this as recent as yesterday , as yourself also noticed. Though others seem to be using this range as well. The user account you included doesn't seem to be them, not the same patterns. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
OK. I didn’t find anything that I would consider an obvious giveaway from Apni_Baat, however I did see some suspicious things, which is why I thought it was a good idea to request for a check on them. Also would you recommend adding 182.191.0.0/16? This is the cluster of IPs behind , and recently, . HyperShark244 (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Ops, not sure why I never replied to this. Either it was too late or I forgot I guess?? I'm sorry for that. HistoryofIran (talk) 00:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
No worries, Shery is now back at 39.62.0.0/16 it seems. HyperShark244 (talk) 10:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
I see. Something is definitely off here, I'll keep an eye. Thanks for letting me know! HistoryofIran (talk) 13:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Just curious

I see you all over iranian wikipedia like everywhere what is your goal exactly also that map you made of the sassanids what sources did you use? MrHappy2020 (talk) 17:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi again MrHappy2020. Just a hobby. I don't really recall which sources I used, though the afromentioned Rezakhani was amongst them. HistoryofIran (talk) 17:32, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
I would really like the sources for the map as i have talked with other Sassanian map makers and sometimes they agreed with you and sometimes they didnt MrHappy2020 (talk) 11:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, but I still don't really recall which sources I used. HistoryofIran (talk) 12:07, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
I asked you something on the Sasanian empire wiki i would like to bring back the discussion about the map on it MrHappy2020 (talk) 12:10, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

PakistanHistorian

Hey @HistoryofIran, Do you think the IP commenting at Talk:Zia-ul-Haq#Non-English scripts and IPAs in lede and infobox PakistanHistorian (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), I think they are but you have dealt with them more than me so thought should ask for confirmation and do you know an admin who is familiar with this sock and maybe be more willing to handle them effectively so I do not have to waste my time discussing their disruption and vandalism with them. Also, do you have any thoughts on the topic itself? It is a pity that I am forced to discuss with an editor who is evading their block just because they keep reverting and edit warring on multiple pages. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sheriff. Definitely something suspicious, but I'm actually a bit unsure about their connection to PakistanHistorian. They have the same geolocation PakistanHistorians suspected IPs and are also interested in Punjabi related stuff. It seems they have been active in this range at least several times . I do have some thoughts about this, I've written a comment in the talk page. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hamzeh Mirza Heshmat od-Dowleh

The article Hamzeh Mirza Heshmat od-Dowleh you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hamzeh Mirza Heshmat od-Dowleh for comments about the article, and Talk:Hamzeh Mirza Heshmat od-Dowleh/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 06:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Advice

Hello, HistoryofIran.

The User talk:185.146.112.192 is engaging in disrupte editing. Neither does this IP provide sources and is POV pushing. And this IP has been warned multiple times for this on his/her talk page.

I asked for an intervention in WP:AN/I, but to no avail, and for a temporary block in Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism, which was rejected as insufficient to warrant a block.

After he/she was blocked for 24 hours, this IP created an account as User talk:Ibish Agayev in order to evade the block and has resumed his/her POV pushing.

Do you have any additional advice?

Kindest regards, Moroike (talk) 16:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Moroike. This should hopefully do the job . HistoryofIran (talk) 17:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply and thank you very much for the vandalism alert about this IP.
The IP's account User talk:Ibish Agayev has been permanently blocked, but the IP will almost certainly resume his/her POV pushing, once his/her 24 hour block ends.
The IP has also done the same POV pushing under different IP numbers, which you can see in the history section of the article Siege of Lankaran.
Kindest regards, Moroike (talk) 17:48, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
If they continue (which I also think is a high possibility), then a range block seems to be the best opinion - it's probably best for it to be requested through a WP:SPI. This seems to the range they're using . I would wait for them to continue before filing a SPI, so your case is taken fully serious. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. Moroike (talk) 05:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Theofunny. Thank you very much and likewise! HistoryofIran (talk) 21:13, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Welcome! Theofunny (talk) 21:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Edits of user 5.74.69.152

Hi there, would you please review all the other edits of this IP? I'm not really an expert in the areas where their edits have been done, but it looks like you might be. Thanks, Kiwipete (talk) 01:48, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Kiwipete. IP seems to be pov pushing, adding Persian-related stuff and removing Arab-related stuff. I've reverted the rest of their edits, best. HistoryofIran (talk) 11:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Farsi?

Hi HistoryofIran, long time no speak. Do you understand Farsi, or know an editor who does? At FAC we have couple of Farsi sources which we need someone to check to ensure that they match what the article says. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Gog, long time no speak indeed. I understand Farsi, but unfortunately not its script.. so yeah. Though ChatGPT has never failed to deliver with its excellent translations when I've used it. Perhaps you could be interested in this one, @Hounaam:? You obviously don't have to reply, just thought of your nice recent edits. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Dear @HistoryofIran Thank you so much for reaching out and for your trust in me. While my specialization lies in art and culture, reviewing Persian texts and inscriptions is certainly within my expertise, and I’m more than happy to assist.
@Gog the Mild It’s always a pleasure to contribute to such meaningful work, and I’m grateful for the opportunity to support the team in any way I can. Hounaam (talk) 15:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Jo-Jo Eumerus, @FAC coordinators: : we seem, perhaps belatedly, to have a Farsi reader. Perhaps it would be worth running the sources and text past Hounaam, even if it is just advance planning for the next FAC? Gog the Mild (talk) 16:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan. And sources to spot check, too. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
I shall leave you, Hounaam and Amir Ghandi to it then. And many thanks to HistoryofIran for facilitating this. (If you fancy reviewing an article, you could try this one .) Gog the Mild (talk) 17:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
with pleasure, thanks for your trust.
Cheers! and Happy New Year! Hounaam (talk) 17:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Siyâvush Beg Gorji

Hi HistoryofIran,

You are absolutely right about the need for exact references regarding Siyâvush Beg Gorji. What we currently have is Siavashon (Savashon), which relates to art of Safavid. I’ve added a note to the text emphasizing that further research is necessary. Hopefully, this will encourage researchers to explore this topic in greater detail.

Best regards, Kanahmad (talk) 14:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Kanahmad. Sorry, but that's not good enough. We need to cite (WP:CITE) WP:RS that supports our additions. Best. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi HistoryofIran,
Thank you for your reply. I think that reaching out to researchers and sharing this topic is a great idea. It’s also worth noting that another Georgian painter, who is buried in Zavarek, might be a relative of Siyâvush Beg Gorji. He served as both a painter and a military commander under Nader Shah.
Best regards, Kanahmad (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages in 2024! Wishing you a Very happy and productive 2025!  ♦ Maliner (talk) 21:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi Maliner. Thank you and likewise, happy new year! HistoryofIran (talk) 12:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Hazaras article

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Hazaras&diff=cur&oldid=1267763033

Seems to be Pov edits, what do you think? Theofunny (talk) 11:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Also check the article on the tribes of Hazaras where cited content has been removed despite objection by you and another editor. Theofunny (talk) 11:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi Theofunny. Thank you very much for letting me know. It definitely seems fishy, I'll look into it. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Appeal to approve my earlier changes

And that's enough of that. Take it to a forum. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The Nakhchivan Khanate had a flag and the coat of arms. I don't understand the reason you reverted the changes and removed the flag and the coat of arms Egl7 (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Ops, forgot to mention those two. They're not supported by any WP:RS. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I made a research of the editing history of this article and seen that there was a language that a person wanted to add to the languages officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate. In response you reverted the changes back and told him that the language he wanted to add was not officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate. But then someone added the same language again and nothing was reverted back. What is the reason you ignored those changes? Is that language now considered as one of the languages that have been officially spoken there? Egl7 (talk) 15:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Please don't create multiple sections for the same article, it's just gonna make it messy. And I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, linking diffs would be helpful. And most importantly of all, please read WP:RS. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nakhichevan_Khanate&diff=prev&oldid=1167805670 here you are saying that this language was not officially spoken there
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nakhichevan_Khanate&diff=prev&oldid=1177447457 here are the changes that have been ignored by your side Egl7 (talk) 16:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
What..? First diff I remove are unofficial, irrelevant languages in the lede, the other diff a random IP adds Armenian under common languages in the infobox, where Azerbaijani is also mentioned - what do they have to do with each other? Why do you even know of such diffs so long ago, do you have other, older accounts? Also, I don't appreciate you doing this . You do not decide what article I want to edit. And that's not "ancient cities and khanates of Azerbaijan" per WP:RS, Azerbaijan first becoming a country in 1918, here are many relevant WP:RS citations . HistoryofIran (talk) 16:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't understand the reason you are accusing me of these things and the reason you are almost unkind to me. So you are telling me that a random IP can make changes to a article and it's going to be ignored? Then why didn't you ignore my changes and the changes that were done in the first link i sent to you? You are accusing me of having older accounts that literally makes no sense, because anyone can see what edits have been done to an article the whole time. I could even have other accounts and I don't understand what's so bad about it? In the first link you can see that someone adds a language, then you revert his changes back. I noticed that you specifically ignored the changes done in the second link i sent to you. And you are the one accusing me of having other accounts? I know that Azerbaijan became a country in 1918. Before becoming a country this territory consisted of khanates. These khanates didn't want to unite much earlier and that's why Azerbaijan became a country only in 1918. Honestly I didn't go into details and thought that in the first link user adds Armenian in the infobox. Okay. If you are telling me that you removed the unofficial Armenian language that has not been officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate (we are talking about the first link here), then why did you let a random IP address Armenian to the infobox? I don't appreciate you doing these. I was never rude to you all this time and you are telling me that i don't decide what article you want to edit when I never told you that. You are right, these khanates were not officially a part of Azerbaijan, but i want to note that people in this territory are called Azerbaijani, and there are even 30 million Azerbaijani people living in the territory of current Iran which is also called Southern Azerbaijan because even many people who are citizens of Iran consider themselves Azerbaijanis, there are 30 million of those people. I'm telling you this so you know that these people live on these lands since a very long time, there is no way that so many people just randomly appeared here. Egl7 (talk) 17:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
So you are telling me that a random IP can make changes to a article and it's going to be ignored?
I think you're heavily misunderstanding something here. Please re-read my comment.
Then why didn't you ignore my changes and the changes that were done in the first link i sent to you?
You were already told of this.
You are accusing me of having older accounts that literally makes no sense, because anyone can see what edits have been done to an article the whole time. I could even have other accounts and I don't understand what's so bad about it? And you are the one accusing me of having other accounts?
I asked you if have older accounts, you could just say yes or no (it's not against the rules to have more than one account, you just need to mention it on your userpages though). It's really not that serious. Yes, but very rarely does something jump to diff almost 2 years ago and bring them up.
Okay. If you are telling me that you removed the unofficial Armenian language that has not been officially spoken in Nakhchivan Khanate (we are talking about the first link here), then why did you let a random IP address Armenian to the infobox?
Please re-read my comment and look at that edit again, it's located in "common_languages" in the infobox. "Common" and "Official" are not the same thing.
you are telling me that i don't decide what article you want to edit when I never told you that.
Then why did you randomly tagging me and ask others why I am "controlling" "articles of ancient cities and khanates of Azerbaijan" despite "not being a member" of WikiProject Azerbaijan...? Is there a rule for that?
You are right, these khanates were not officially a part of Azerbaijan, but i want to note that people in this territory are called Azerbaijani, and there are even 30 million Azerbaijani people living in the territory of current Iran which is also called Southern Azerbaijan because even many people who are citizens of Iran consider themselves Azerbaijanis, there are 30 million of those people. I'm telling you this so you know that these people live on these lands since a very long time, there is no way that so many people just randomly appeared here.
Misplaced Pages does engage in anachronism, and follows WP:RS. Please read the policy. HistoryofIran (talk) 17:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  1. So what is the reason you ignored the user in the second link? How did a random IP get away with it so easy?
  2. Some of your questions are unnecessary and having multiple accounts is not that serious.
  3. I asked that question in the talk of project Azerbaijan because of my own free will, if i'm interested in something i can know the answer, there is nothing wrong with asking those questions and there is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm new here, that's why i'm not a member of project Azerbaijan but i can be one in the future too if i want to.
  4. I also asked that question because it would seem weird not only to me but also to others that a user that doesn't participate in project Azerbaijan but specifically participates not only in project Armenia but also many other things related to Armenia controls the article of khanate that now is a city of Azerbaijan
  5. So you can't tell how so many people of one ethnicity can appear on these land in a very little time because it's physically impossible to reproduce that fast.
Egl7 (talk) 18:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
So what is the reason you ignored the user in the second link? How did a random IP get away with it so easy?
Again, I have already answered this. There was nothing wrong with their edit, unless you mean to claim that Armenian was not spoken in the Nakhchevan Khanate at all. The more important question is why are you swapping the place of Armenian and Kurdish, so the former appears lower? .
Some of your questions are unnecessary and having multiple accounts is not that serious.
I find it pretty relevant to ask when you bring up two random diffs from almost 2 years ago. And I know it's not that serious, I just said that.
I asked that question in the talk of project Azerbaijan because of my own free will, if i'm interested in something i can know the answer, there is nothing wrong with asking those questions and there is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm new here, that's why i'm not a member of project Azerbaijan but i can be one in the future too if i want to.
There are more polite ways to do that. Such as simply asking me now that you're here.
I also asked that question because it would seem weird not only to me but also to others that a user that doesn't participate in project Azerbaijan but specifically participates not only in project Armenia but also many other things related to Armenia controls the article of khanate that now is a city of Azerbaijan
WikiProjects aren't that serious. It's just a little neat thing, everyone can easily become a "member". I had completely forgot that I was a "member" of WikiProject Armenia before you mentioned it.
So you can't tell how so many people of one ethnicity can appear on these land in a very little time because it's physically impossible to reproduce that fast.
I linked you a plethora of WP:RS, you can read that. Speaking of which, have you read the WP:RS policy yet? HistoryofIran (talk) 18:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  1. You could add Armenian language yourself too if you are a big supporter of the changes made by the user in the second link. You contradict yourself. You told the user in the first link that Armenian was not officially spoken there and now you are telling me that it was a "former" language? Then what is stopping you from swapping Armenian and Azerbaijani?
  2. I apologize if that hurt your feelings, but it's not impolite to asks questions that don't contain hate speech, harassment or sexually explicit language.
  3. It's a little suspicious because everything in your profile is about supporting Armenia's actions.
  4. I will take time and go into details of it, but some of the links you marked here hurt to read. These sources are not reliable at all and i don't think that they are approved.
Egl7 (talk) 18:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
You could add Armenian language yourself too if you are a big supporter of the changes made by the user in the second link. You contradict yourself. You told the user in the first link that Armenian was not officially spoken there and now you are telling me that it was a "former" language? Then what is stopping you from swapping Armenian and Azerbaijani?
What does that have to do with anything? I could add Armenian yes, I also couldn't. I could do a lot of things - which is my own business. I have other things to do than edit in Misplaced Pages. "Official" and "common" does still not mean the same thing.
I apologize if that hurt your feelings, but it's not impolite to asks questions that don't contain hate speech, harassment or sexually explicit language.
Please look up the meaning of "impolite" as well.
It's a little suspicious because everything in your profile is about supporting Armenia's actions.
That so? I have three things (out of 25) about Armenia on my userpage, the WikiProject Armenia, being interested in the history of Greater Armenia, and opposing the denial of the Armenian genocide. So how does that "support" Armenia's "actions"? Did the Armenian genocide not happen? Please answer.
I will take time and go into details of it, but some of the links you marked here hurt to read. These sources are not reliable at all and i don't think that they are approved.
It's clear you still haven't read WP:RS. I am asking you for the fourth time to read it. HistoryofIran (talk) 19:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  1. It's obvious that you are active here if you reverted my changes back and answered my questions in minutes. And i'm sure that if i swap Azerbaijani and Armenian languages you are going to ignore my changes.
  2. If someone says something wrong about, for example, your friend, something that is considered wrong about them, at least between you two, wouldn't you tell them about it right away? It would be a shame to ignore that and keep silent, right? So what do you want me to do? If I hadn't done that to my friend, it would be very impolite towards them.
  3. You are not kidding, right? The point of your profile is mostly to support Armenia's actions. The fact that you ask me this question means that everything that was added to the description of your account was added intentionally. I did not refute anything that was written in your profile but you don't support both sides at all, there is nothing about Azerbaijan in your profile yet you are here reverting back changes of article that belongs to the khanate which is now a city of Azerbaijan. Did Khojali genocide not happen? You are telling me that you have three things about Armenia but you also have 0 about Azerbaijan. You are here on Misplaced Pages 12 years and you are trying to tell me that you don't know everything so well? If you are going to tell me that it's the sources and you didn't do anything wrong: you are literally stating the sources that contain only negativity about Azerbaijan. You are not doing justice. Azerbaijan is all negativity to you. Can you people just live in peace? Tell me honestly do you really like to spread negativity?
  4. I'm telling you again, i opened one of the links you sent to me and i was frightened. Everything is against Azerbaijan here. The wprs is not reliable and these sources are not reliable at all.
Egl7 (talk) 20:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Also i don't quite understand this "Misplaced Pages does engage in anachronism". Misplaced Pages says itself that there are 30 million people living in Iran. I opened up the en.wikipedia and it says 23 millions. Is this not convincing? Do you mean that this is anachronism? Then I can call everything i see "anachronism" on Misplaced Pages. Egl7 (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It's obvious that you are active here if you reverted my changes back and answered my questions in minutes. And i'm sure that if i swap Azerbaijani and Armenian languages you are going to ignore my changes.
It seems you still don't get the difference between those two diffs. And you do not know me, so please refrain from making these kind of claims. And you did still not answer why you swapped Armenian and Kurdish, so that the former appeared last.
If someone says something wrong about, for example, your friend, something that is considered wrong about them, at least between you two, wouldn't you tell them about it right away? It would be a shame to ignore that and keep silent, right? So what do you want me to do? If I hadn't done that to my friend, it would be very impolite towards them.
So... did the Armenian genocide happen? It's a simple yes or no question.
You are not kidding, right? The point of your profile is mostly to support Armenia's actions. The fact that you ask me this question means that everything that was added to the description of your account was added intentionally. I did not refute anything that was written in your profile but you don't support both sides at all, there is nothing about Azerbaijan in your profile yet you are here reverting back changes of article that belongs to the khanate which is now a city of Azerbaijan. Did Khojali genocide not happen? You are telling me that you have three things about Armenia but you also have 0 about Azerbaijan. You are here on Misplaced Pages 12 years and you are trying to tell me that you don't know everything so well? If you are going to tell me that it's the sources and you didn't do anything wrong: you are literally stating the sources that contain only negativity about Azerbaijan. You are not doing justice. Azerbaijan is all negativity to you. Can you people just live in peace? Tell me honestly do you really like to spread negativity?
Sheer whataboutism. This is not an appropriate place for your issues with Armenia and its conflict with Azerbaijan. Please refrain from making WP:NPA/WP:ASPERSIONS, and please take this somewhere else, eg. a forum. HistoryofIran (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
  1. Tell me why would it be the other way. There were more Kurdish people than Armenian, so how is it possible that there is a bigger number of people that spoke Armenian?
  2. It did happen, though, in many sources it's said that it was a war, not a genocide. What does this have to do with all i said above?
  3. So do you betray your friends? This is a simple yes or no question.
  4. Did the Khojali genocide happen? It's also a simple yes or no question.
  5. I repeat that i don't quite understand this "Misplaced Pages does engage in anachronism". Misplaced Pages says itself that there are 30 million people living in Iran. I opened up the en.wikipedia and it says 23 millions. Is this not convincing? Do you mean that this is anachronism? Then I can call everything i see "anachronism" on Misplaced Pages.
  6. I never mentioned neither any issues with any country nor any conflicts.
Egl7 (talk) 20:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hazrat Ishaan stuff

Hello, me again. So a while back I did some clean-up on the article Qadiriyya wa Naqshbandiyya, to make it look like a proper Misplaced Pages article. I also saw something some months ago on Reddit about some dude called Raphael Dakik, a German-Afghan who created a government-in-exile. I spent some time leaning about Dakik, and I have got an idea of who he is. So then I came across this, and decided to help Remote-Control65 out. After looking at Remote-Control65's contributions, I could see that they are somewhat of a WP:SPA, all their contributions are basically like these. However, I think there is more to this guy- they could be a sockpuppet of Sayyid Mir Israfil, who I heard of from the Qadiriyya wa Naqshbandiyya page . I have launched an investigation here. HyperShark244 (talk) 05:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi again HyperShark244. Interesting, something definitely seems off. I'll let you know if I find something. HistoryofIran (talk) 12:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry for the lateness DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Danilo. Thank you very much, time flies too fast. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)