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| == Mindfulness is based on the teachings of the Buddha. Why are you promoting misinformation on Misplaced Pages> == | |||
| == Olfactory art == | |||
| Hello MrOllie, | |||
| Why have you deleted the additional information and links about Perfumed Art and Olfactory which is in direct relation with the olfactory art thematic, bringing more references in this field? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> | |||
| Mindfullness is one part of the eightfold noble path taught by the Buddha. It is not derived from Chan, Guan or tibetan buddhist teachings as the original article claimed. In fact Chan, Guan and tibetan buddhism originate from the teachings of the Buddha in Pali. | |||
| :Misplaced Pages is not a link directory, it is not a place to dump lists of links. See ] and ]. It is also not a place to post opinionated essays, see ] and ]. - ] (]) 20:30, 22 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| You appear to have no knowledge or interest in Buddhism. Why are you removing edits on subjects you have no clue about? Keep- this up and you'll be reported. | |||
| ::It is additional information and absolutely not post opinionated essays, it is the source of information completing the previous incomplete list about olfactory art. Are you specialist in this domain and how you could cut the information withouts understanding? ] (]) 20:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::Misplaced Pages is ], it is an encyclopedia and essays expressing opinions are off topic here. I understand your 'information', I simply disagree that it belongs on this web site. ] (]) 20:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Your opinion is discriminative because you are mentioning (" I simply disagree that it belongs on this web site"). | |||
| ::::and writing by separate e-mail: | |||
| ::::("If you continue to disrupt Misplaced Pages, you may be blocked from editing". MrOllie (talk) 17:39, 23 April 2023 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::Creative or Corrupt? How Wikipedians decide if a new contribution is "good" or "bad" - ref: Ethics.harvard.edu ] (]) 20:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::::The material which I am adding is an additional and new information in this field and you even don’t know the context because you are deleting the information immediately 2 min after every edition i.e. you are even not reading and not analysing, just deleting. You are a troublemaker in a useful Misplaced Pages community. ] (]) 19:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::It plainly violates Misplaced Pages's content policies. I have read it. It does not belong here. Making personal attacks on me will not change that. ] (]) 20:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Where are the violations in this below text? | |||
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| https://tricycle.org/article/satipatthana-sutta-mindfulness/ ] (]) 18:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Report for vandalism == | |||
| :On Misplaced Pages we follow what the cited sources say, which in this case are books from major academic publishers. Do not change the article in ways they do not reflect the cited source. Self published blog posts such as you posted here do not undermine those sources. Kindly take this up on the article's associated talk page - not on user talk pages, and not in edit summaries while edit warring. ] (]) 18:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| <nowiki>{{subst:Uw-delete2|article=MrOllie|content=Your behavior on Misplaced Pages is unacceptable and against Misplaced Pages's policies. You have been repeatedly vandalizing articles and stalking my edits in order to delete them. This is not only unproductive but also disruptive to the community. Your continued behavior of adding vague comedic replies such as "No thanks" or "Not really" to my edits is not funny and will not be tolerated. I am reporting you for vandalism, and this report will be reviewed by administrators. Please see the following sources for evidence: , , and .}}</nowiki> | |||
| ] Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Misplaced Pages without giving a valid reason for the removal in the ]. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been ]. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use ] for that. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-delete2 --> ] (]) 12:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ==Jinnifer on WikiQuote== | |||
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| Just FYI... I'm not sure how often you check your WikiQuote page but Jinnifer is using an anonymous address to harass you in to making changes for them on Misplaced Pages via your talk page. This was after multiple failed attempts to get me to do it for them. ] (]) 03:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Reading your answer it is very clear that you have not even bothered to take a look at the articles in which you have been reverting my edits. Your behaviour is suspicious for using automation programs or apps in order to perform wikipedia edits. I would recommend you to read an article before reverting an edit, and to put a minimum ammount of effort. We can discuss this in a civilized matter, or I can prepare a more serious report for your suspicious automoderation actions, and the use of spam/automation tools. | |||
| ::I am not aware of your intentions, but preventing wikipedia users from upgrading the old images that have been laying around in Misplaced Pages is odd and suspicious. If my images were from the same brand or product I would understand your concern, however, providing your instant actions and stalking of my edits it is clear that your actions differ from your words and unfunny vague statements. ] (]) 12:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::You should go ahead and put in that report now, I don't discuss with people who are engaged in making empty threats about such things. ] (]) 12:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Let me understand something. If I photoshop away the logos of the computer monitors, webcams, and etc, would you keep deleting them or what is your problem? ] (]) 12:39, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::::I would recommend you to answer questions unironically. What is the problem with the images and how could that be fixed? Before you reply, I suggest you to let sarcasm or jokes aside this time, absolutely no one finds them funny. ] (]) 13:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Make the report. Do not post on my talk page again. ] (]) 13:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::... and note that the jokes ''are'' funny. - ]the ] 15:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | :Yeah, they like to waste their time in that way. ] (]) 03:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| == Linus Pauling/Vitamin C section == | |||
| Why did you revert my addition of recent work showing that high dose IV vitamin C can enhance the anti-tumor response of immunotherapy? There was no prior discussion of how high dose IV VitC affects immunotherapy, only chemotherapy. It is a very promising finding. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == RosaSubmarine == | |||
| :See ]. We don't report on mouse studies. Misplaced Pages is ] to try to argue with mainstream medical science on this. - ] (]) 21:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ] ] ] 12:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::In no way did I "argue with medical science" nor does the edit include medical advice. The research is from the highly regarded ''translational'' journal Science Translational Medicine. I did not argue, nor do I think, that the high dose vitamin C treatment is at the point of being clinically ready. However, the Linus Pauling article so far only mentions studies about direct effects of vitamin C on tumors, or interactions with chemotherapy. Immunotherapy, which has shown incredible promise in the last 15 years, should be mentioned. There is a chicken and egg problem in the very fact that Vitamin C is controversial slows down any clinical trials, so it will be a while until we have clinical confirmation of results. However, the recent study is one of the first quality studies which suggests that early claims made by Linus Pauling may not have been as off the mark as some may think, and is thus relevant to the Linus Pauling page. This is not a clinical page, it's about Linus Pauling. Note, I have not made edits to the Vitamin C page itself. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> | |||
| == IP editor == | |||
| :::The guidelines outlined in ] are very stringent, most peer-reviewed journal articles do not meet them. Those guidelines also apply to any biomedical claim on any article in Misplaced Pages. Please read and understand the guideline, and then follow it going forward. Misplaced Pages is fine taking a long time, we have no deadline and by design we do not write about bleeding edge medical studies. - ] (]) 21:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::PS: You should be taking this to the article talk page. If you keep edit warring in stuff that fails MEDRS you're probably going to get blocked. ] (]) 21:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| I think they can be reported for edit warring on Biology and SO, now. ] (]) 00:07, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::: That the edit fails ] is your personal opinion. ] mentions 'in vitro' studies and does not mentioned translational or 'in vivo' mouse studies. You either did not read, or did not comprehend the article that I linked, since I did not make any biomedical claim, and neither does the source. You should take the time to read the article before unilaterally deciding whether it is fringe or not. If you find flaws in the article or find that I have not represented it accurately, you are free to clarify. If you do not have the credentials or understanding of biology, then perhaps you should refer to someone who does, or defer until you have done so. While the Linus Pauling article mentioned direct effects of VitC on tumors and on chemotherapy, immunotherapy is never mentioned. Immunotherapy has been extremely promising over the last 15 years and should not be ignored. Blocking me is not an effective way of having a conversation. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :::::{{Tq|in vitro or animal studies}} obviously means either, not both at the same time. We simply do not cover recent findings based on single animal studies. I'm not going to block you, but if you keep edit warring I'd have to refer the matter to an administrator who certainly will. At any rate, please refer any followup to the article's associated talk page. Perhaps someone will agree with you there, though I would be very surprised. ] (]) 21:55, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :Probably. But no 3RR vio and they are at least talking, even if what they're saying isn't backed up by the sources. ] (]) 00:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: ] States "avoid over-emphasizing single studies, particularly in vitro or animal studies." You should read the article that I cited, and let me know specifically in what way I have over-emphasized anything within it, or its implications. I specifically mentioned that the results are "pre-clinical" which is what ] recommends. | |||
| ⚫ | ::Alright, let's see. ] (]) 00:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ::Seems they calmed down. I normally don't engage in big back and forth with editors, but sometimes they genuinely just don't "get it". ] (]) 00:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | :::It's nice to see discussion work for a change, that's for sure! ] (]) 00:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | ::::{{ping|Zenomonoz}} Looks like I had to make that report after all. ] (]) 02:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | :::::And the same stuff is being added at ], by the by. ] (]) 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ::::::I have reverted. Looks like a troll pretending to act in good faith. ] (]) 02:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :::::: The Science Translational Medicine paper is also not a small-scale study, which ] frowns upwon, as several different kinds of immunotherapy were tested. I am not sure if you know that, since there is no way that you have had the time to read the paper in the ''3 minute time period'' before you reverted my edit. Note that in addition to primary literature, which is not what ] prefers, my original edit also included a reference to a review-like article from the National Cancer Institute (https://www.cancer.gov/research/key-initiatives/ras/ras-central/blog/2020/yun-cantley-vitamin-c) which is more recent (2020) than the review article linked in the Linus Pauling page (2015). This is in line with the emphasis on up-to-date information in ]. Furthermore, the content of the review agrees with my edit, specifically saying that "a growing number of preclinical studies are showing how high-dose vitamin C might benefit cancer patients. Importantly, these preclinical studies provide a clear rationale and potential biomarkers that may help personalize the therapeutic approach and identify patient populations that are likely to respond to high-dose vitamin C therapy." | |||
| By the way, thanks for your efforts on ] and its talk page. I'd like to do a major overhaul of ] soon, since it seems to give too much credence to a very fringe camp in psychiatry. ] (]) 12:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: Finally, it is clear to anyone who reads biology articles that there are many Misplaced Pages article which refer to single animal studies when there is no clinical data to refer to. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/Interleukin_17#Role_in_psoriasis. (see all the sentences with single references). Just because a topic has been controversial in the past does not mean new data about it should not be published. | |||
| :::::: If you wish to re-phrase the wording of my edits to bring it into further compliance with ] then you should do that, instead of unilaterally rejecting up-to-date and sensible statements and repeatedly making strong declarative statements which misrepresent what I wrote. Specifically, you need to support your claim that the edits are "profringe", that the ] violation is "blatant," and that somehow what I wrote "argues with mainstream medical science," given the source material that I have cited. | |||
| :::::: If you continue to demonstrate unwillingness to read the content and/or source material that you are supervising/editing, then I will refer you to an administrator. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :::::::I don't take well to empty threats. Just file the report now. ] (]) 22:31, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::: And yet you take to making them. I have other things to do, I will file the report once I learn how to do it properly, since I don't live on wikipedia and have other work to attend to. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :::::::::Great. Don't post here again until you do. ] (]) 22:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Per your request, there is now a discussion involving you at ] regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on ]. <!--Template:An3-notice--> Best, ] (]) 04:11, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == IRC Hash Tags == | |||
| Referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Internet_Relay_Chat&oldid=prev&diff=1133158387 - Could you please elaborate on your ingenious explanation of "also wrong"? As someone who has written an IRC client from the ground up parsing the text messages sent to/from the client/server, and used IRC for ~30 years - I see a very clear commonality of #hashtag grouping between channels and 'tags', and I question your expertise on the topic if you lack the ability to see the connection. Would you care to explain why the point wasn't valid? ] (]) 03:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Mindfulness is based on the teachings of the Buddha. Why are you promoting misinformation on Misplaced Pages>
Mindfullness is one part of the eightfold noble path taught by the Buddha. It is not derived from Chan, Guan or tibetan buddhist teachings as the original article claimed. In fact Chan, Guan and tibetan buddhism originate from the teachings of the Buddha in Pali.
You appear to have no knowledge or interest in Buddhism. Why are you removing edits on subjects you have no clue about? Keep- this up and you'll be reported.
https://tricycle.org/article/satipatthana-sutta-mindfulness/ Rottcod (talk) 18:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- On Misplaced Pages we follow what the cited sources say, which in this case are books from major academic publishers. Do not change the article in ways they do not reflect the cited source. Self published blog posts such as you posted here do not undermine those sources. Kindly take this up on the article's associated talk page - not on user talk pages, and not in edit summaries while edit warring. MrOllie (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Jinnifer on WikiQuote
Just FYI... I'm not sure how often you check your WikiQuote page but Jinnifer is using an anonymous address to harass you in to making changes for them on Misplaced Pages via your talk page. This was after multiple failed attempts to get me to do it for them. NJZombie (talk) 03:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, they like to waste their time in that way. MrOllie (talk) 03:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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I think they can be reported for edit warring on Biology and SO, now. Zenomonoz (talk) 00:07, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Probably. But no 3RR vio and they are at least talking, even if what they're saying isn't backed up by the sources. MrOllie (talk) 00:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, let's see. Zenomonoz (talk) 00:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Seems they calmed down. I normally don't engage in big back and forth with editors, but sometimes they genuinely just don't "get it". Zenomonoz (talk) 00:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's nice to see discussion work for a change, that's for sure! MrOllie (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Zenomonoz: Looks like I had to make that report after all. MrOllie (talk) 02:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- And the same stuff is being added at Genome-wide association study, by the by. MrOllie (talk) 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have reverted. Looks like a troll pretending to act in good faith. Zenomonoz (talk) 02:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- And the same stuff is being added at Genome-wide association study, by the by. MrOllie (talk) 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Zenomonoz: Looks like I had to make that report after all. MrOllie (talk) 02:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's nice to see discussion work for a change, that's for sure! MrOllie (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Other comment
By the way, thanks for your efforts on Repressed memory and its talk page. I'd like to do a major overhaul of Dissociative identity disorder soon, since it seems to give too much credence to a very fringe camp in psychiatry. Zenomonoz (talk) 12:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)