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== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
== Nabatean script ==
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Is it really true that the great majority of Nabatean inscriptions are found in the Sinai? The capital and most famous site, ], is in Jordan. ] (]) 22:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


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:{{ping|AnonMoos}} I was surprised too, but the source is crystal clear. See . It seems to be because the term "Nabatean" is used as a synonym for "of ]". ] (]) 22:21, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
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<blockquote>"Sinai, for example, is a major source of Nabataean inscriptions: the corpus of M. E. Stone contains 3,851 Nabataean items! But most were written by individuals who had no connection with Nabataea itself during the period of the Nabataean kingdom or its immediate aftermath and they may not normally have spoken Aramaic. The texts have generally been thought to have been written long after Nabataea as such disappeared."</blockquote>
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::In other words, those inscriptions were in Nabatean script, but were mostly not written by people affiliated with the Nabataean kingdom as such. I think it would be good to very briefly explain this on the article. ] (]) 21:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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:::Hi {{u|AnonMoos}}, I agree. Healey is saying that most inscriptions called “Nabatean” are misleadingly labelled. The only reason I didn’t add that to the article is that it seems like it might be a controversial statement so it would be ideal to find other sources to confirm it. In the meantime perhaps we could add it in-line attributed to Healey? ] (]) 21:59, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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What does the ''WP:ARBPIA 500:30'' rule entail? If I can't publish the page myself, may another individual who fulfills the 500:30 demand publish it in my name? ] (]) 19:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
They are advertising a major upgrade. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 14:45, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


:{{ping|Zentarov}} I see Selfstudier has since added the relevant templates to your talk page which explain the 500 / 30 rule.
:Hi {{ping|Zero0000}} thanks – I noticed that yesterday when using it to check some maps. Looks good, albeit a little buggy on my system. They added in a bunch of cross-links to major websites on the villages, although not to wikipedia from what I could see. ] (]) 15:09, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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:Note that there were a number of areas that your draft article will need to have worked on, mostly relating to balance. It read as an advocacy case for one side of an argument, rather than as a balanced encyclopedia article.
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See and . Note that Stripling is a senior member of Associates for Biblical Research, which is a literalist organization that is (at a minimum) soft on creationism. I've often wondered why Israel grants excavation permits to people like that. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 02:00, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


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:Interesting, thank you {{u|Zero0000}}. Certainly looks dubious to me… ] (]) 06:11, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::::Heh: “We’ve had many months to study those scans, so when someone looks at them for the first time, it may take time for their eyes to acclimate" Thankfully we have Twitterati that for us: "Another way of saying: There probably aren't really any letters on this piece of lead, but if you stare at it long enough you'll see what you want to." 😊 ] (]) 23:06, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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::By the way, on the subject of ancient inscriptions, I wondered if you would be interested in helping at ] – it is supposed to be the ultimate combination of numbers and history. The idea is to quantify all known writing prior to 300 AD – in other words put a numerical boundary around all ancient human knowledge that has come down to us.
::It was built mostly using the estimates of German scholar Carsten Peust. Peust stated that he didn’t know enough about certain corpora, so he left them out. ] (]) 06:19, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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:Hi {{ping|Tamzin}} very well said. I agree with your explanation completely. It would help greatly with public advocacy. And would be a check-and-balance on various elements of our system. The person would almost certainly end up on the Foundation's board as well. ] (]) 03:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::Hmm. I don't think a cetacean is needed, -] is in the offing, but this is sensible. Perhaps an ] elected for that ] investigative role/roll in/amidst the endless waves/waifs of wikiworrying. ] (]) 08:24, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

== Yousef Munayyer ==
Greetings. Little over a month ago, you reverted a section I had written on ] detailing his spat with ] concerning the Summer 2014 conflict between Israel and Hamas. Your justification was that it was "non-notable and written in an unbalanced manner." Considering that what I wrote was not editorialized (that is, written in such a way as to be construed as supporting a particular point of view), and that the back-and-forth was covered by various news outlets (https://www.google.com/search?q=hannity+munayyer+hamas&rlz=1CATATK_enUS1026&oq=hannity+munayyer+hamas&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l2.5048j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8), how can you argue in good faith that my content was non-notable and unbalanced? ] (]) 03:44, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

:Hi NavyBlueSunglasses, because the article "Hannity shouts at Palestinian guest" was notable for Hannity losing his cool, not for anything Munayyer did or said. I don’t believe this incident warrants taking up 25% of Munayyer’s article, per ]. Perhaps it could be summarized down to a single sentence? ] (]) 07:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
::] (]) 16:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC) Ok, I understand. Sorry about that.

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== Need any help ==

Hey buddy, just wondering if there's anything I can help with. I am sporadically here, and I see you're quite busy creating and inventorying inscription articles, among other things. Let me know if there's something I can do. ] (]) 13:24, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

:Hi {{ping|Elias Ziade}} my plan is to get ] to be the best available repository of the notable inscriptions, with each inscription or set of inscriptions having its own article including precise information on its discovery and an image of the text.
:The challenge is being "comprehensive" - to my mind that means including all known inscriptions contained in the published "selected" collections. That doesn't mean CIS or TADAE, which intended to include all inscriptions regardless of their notability; it means just KAI, KI, NE, TSSI and NSI, which only covered the most important examples. I have now identified all of these - almost all have rows in the table already (albeit some still with a blank name, or black or red text), and the ones that don't have now been added to the talk page (the most recent talk comment). Some of these may be able to be grouped together rather than needing new individual articles for all, but we need to see how the sources deal with them first. If you ever find yourself with a spare hour and would like to create one of these articles, it would be great.
:It could help support a meaningful improvement in scholarship in the area, allowing readers to get a clearer and broader feel for the hard historical evidence of this group of cultures. What I have found most interesting is sorting the table by date discovered - it allows you to follow the evolution of this area of study, and see how various the scholarly consensuses were formed in the area. I suspect that some mistakes were made early on that were never reassessed in light of the available evidence in more modern times...
:You are doing great work with the sanctuary of Kharayeb and other similar articles. There are still a few of these important locations without articles - one of the most notable being the Ayaa Necropolis. And do let me know how else I can be helpful on supporting the effort to get the sarcophagus to FA.
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What does the WP:ARBPIA 500:30 rule entail? If I can't publish the page myself, may another individual who fulfills the 500:30 demand publish it in my name? Zentarov (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@Zentarov: I see Selfstudier has since added the relevant templates to your talk page which explain the 500 / 30 rule.
To get another editor to review, I suggest following WP:AFC.
Note that there were a number of areas that your draft article will need to have worked on, mostly relating to balance. It read as an advocacy case for one side of an argument, rather than as a balanced encyclopedia article.
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