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|File:Bank myna (Acridotheres ginginianus).jpg|The ] is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. ] |File:Bank myna (Acridotheres ginginianus).jpg|The ] is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. ]
|File:Clinotarsus curtipes-Aralam-2016-10-29-001.jpg|The vulnerable ] is endemic to the Western Ghats.] |File:Clinotarsus curtipes-Aralam-2016-10-29-001.jpg|The vulnerable ] is endemic to the Western Ghats.]
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|File:Nelumno nucifera open flower - botanic garden adelaide2.jpg|The ] (''Nelumbo nucifera'') is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment. ] |File:Nelumno nucifera open flower - botanic garden adelaide2.jpg|The ] (''Nelumbo nucifera'') is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment. ]
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|File:Sadhu and a picture of Siva.jpg|A Sadhu and a picture of Siva in Kayasth Tola, Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh in Northern India ] |File:Sadhu and a picture of Siva.jpg|A Sadhu and a picture of Siva in Kayasth Tola, Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh in Northern India ]
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|File:Gomateswara, Shravanabelagola.jpg|A Jain woman washes the feet of ] Gomateswara at ], ]. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill. ] |File:Gomateswara, Shravanabelagola.jpg|A Jain woman washes the feet of ] Gomateswara at ], ]. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill. ]
|File:Shiva as the Lord of Dance LACMA edit.jpg|A Chola bronze depicting ], who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of ] ] |File:Shiva as the Lord of Dance LACMA edit.jpg|A Chola bronze depicting ], who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of ] ]
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|File:Kochi chinese fishing-net-20080215-01a.jpg|An example of the ] of ]. ] is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010. ] |File:Kochi chinese fishing-net-20080215-01a.jpg|An example of the ] of ]. ] is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010. ]
|File:Cherry Resort inside Temi Tea Garden, Namchi, Sikkim.jpg|A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output. ] |File:Cherry Resort inside Temi Tea Garden, Namchi, Sikkim.jpg|A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output. ]
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|File:Interior of San Thome Basilica.jpg|The interior of ], ], ]. Christianity is believed to have been introduced to India by the late 2nd century by ]. ] |File:Interior of San Thome Basilica.jpg|The interior of ], ], ]. Christianity is believed to have been introduced to India by the late 2nd century by ]. ]
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|File:Children eating kheer and puri, Chambal, India.jpg|Schoolchildren in ], ] eating a mid-day meal. The ] attempts to lower rates of childhood ]. |File:Children eating kheer and puri, Chambal, India.jpg|Schoolchildren in ], ] eating a mid-day meal. The ] attempts to lower rates of childhood ].
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|File:Mysore Palace Morning.jpg|] in the morning ] |File:Mysore Palace Morning.jpg|] in the morning ]
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|File:Mumtaz Ahmed Khan.jpg|] founder of ] ] |File:Mumtaz Ahmed Khan.jpg|] founder of ] ]
|File:Al-Ameen College of Pharmacy Block.jpg|], Bangalore, India ] |File:Al-Ameen College of Pharmacy Block.jpg|], Bangalore, India ]
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|Bara Imambara Lucknow.jpg|], Lucknow, India ] |Bara Imambara Lucknow.jpg|], Lucknow, India ]
|File:Salman Khurshid portrait.jpg|], Indian politician belonging to the ] ] |File:Salman Khurshid portrait.jpg|], Indian politician belonging to the ] ]
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|File:High Court of Karnataka, Bangalore MMK.jpg|], Bangalore ] |File:High Court of Karnataka, Bangalore MMK.jpg|], Bangalore ]
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|File:Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis.jpg|17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background. ] |File:Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis.jpg|17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background. ]
|File:Gathering of Four Buddhas - Google Art Project.jpg|The Gathering of Four Buddhas. |File:Gathering of Four Buddhas - Google Art Project.jpg|The Gathering of Four Buddhas.
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|File:Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes - Google Art Project.jpg|English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. |File:Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes - Google Art Project.jpg|English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet.
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*Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling. *Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.


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Have a look . Thanks. - ] (]) 12:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)


:Thanks. Have reverted. ]] 17:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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::Have a look at . British Era census data. - ] (]) 12:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{re|Jonesey95}} I only just saw your notice. I don't remember this template; it was probably some fledgling effort of mine. So, no big deal. Thanks. ]] 12:40, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


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Hello Fowler&Fowler!
While patrolling new pages, I saw several pages that were formed by duplicating some existing articles, and I nominated some of them for AFD. I requested help on Misplaced Pages's Discord channels to check the reliability of these pages, and someone suggested I contact you. Could you please examine the sources of the ] and ] articles? These two articles appear to be clones of the ] and the ], respectively. This same creator has created several more that appear to be wholly fabricated and dubious. ] <sup> ]</sup> 04:29, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

:A little strapped for time now, but will take a look later. A cursory reading of the first few sentences suggests efforts at murky caste upliftment. Don't know why they feel the need. We all humans came out of Africa, only recently separated in geological time from our primate cousins, bearing as Darwin put it, "in our bodily frame the indelible stamp of our lowly origin." ], the South Indian crusader against caste, had said somewhere that the north Indian lower-castes (by which he meant all but the top two) have not had the guts to reject caste; they only want to inch upward in it. ]] 12:55, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

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== A reminder in good faith ==

Ive been watching your comments and edits on ]. In quite a few of your comments and edit summaries, your "my way or the highway" behaviour is quite concerning. Also concerning is the fact that you consider (and loudly proclaim) your contributions to be far above those of others. I doubt that this is a good way of reaching a consensus. Have a good day, and I hope you keep this in mind and try to improve.<br>
Cheers, ] (]) 13:46, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

:It might appear that way, but as ] states at the outset, "In many cases (but not all), single editors engaged in ownership conflicts are also primary contributors to the article, so keep in mind that such editors may be experts in their field or have a genuine interest in maintaining the quality of the article and preserving accuracy. An editor who appears to assume ownership of an article should be approached on the article's talk page with a descriptive header informing readers about the topic." Although I am not ''the'' primary contributor, I have spent time crafting different aspects of the article, and also of related articles, such as ], ], ], ]. People are quick to assert rights (the right to be BOLD, the right to copy and paste, the right to edit war, the right to assert equality in every aspect of the WP endeavor) but not a peep is heard about responsibility (the responsibility of maintaining the article, of writing reasonably well-crafted ], which takes years if not decades to hone.
:Look at yourself {{re|CapnJackSp}}: you have no compunction leaving a superciliously preachy message on my talk page about my behavior, but&mdash;as you have been tinkering with the lead of ], adding which I in the many years of my involvement in Indian history topics, have never seen mentioned in a &mdash;have you never thought about leaving a post here complementing me on my contributions to the Gandhi article? ]] 16:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
::<s>While your contributions are not worthless</s> <u>Regardless of your contributions to the article</u>, keep in mind that those do not empower you to talk down to others on the basis of the belief that you must be right. You may certainly know a lot about the topics you edit around, but the assumption you know enough to disregard others is incompatible with how we handle disputes.<br>It is good that you acknowledge that you were not the primary contributor to the article - Accepting that is a positive step. You should also try to work collaboratively when challenged. That would be quite an improvement. <br>As for the edit you pulled up, my phase was quite accurate. "Rashtra Pita" is used commonly in India for Gandhi. Your version, where you inserted "but not officially" was quite out of place. It was an improvement over your version which moved the wording closer back to the one before your edit while accommodating your "official" concerns.<br>Anyway, I doubt that this message will push you to improve drastically, but incremental improvements in behaviour would also be fine. :) <br>Cheers, ] (]) 17:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
:::F&F has been collaborating effectively, if not always in total harmony, with a large group of editors on Indian topics, for well over a decade. Can you say the same, or anything like it? Your condescending tone ("While your contributions are not worthless ..." and so on) is unearned and unhelpful. ] (]) 17:55, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
::::''If not always in total harmony'' is the point I wanted to drive home. I have not opined that the issue is of disruptive editing, or lack of knowledge, or anything along those lines - I think F&F is usually constructive (if verbose) on talk pages and adds value to articles. The issue was that they take opposition to their views with quite hostility. If they were to edit in harmony with others, it would be a major improvement.<br>Regarding the tone, it wasnt intended as an insult, and I have changed it for something you might find more acceptable. As an aside, a condescending tone is ''never earned'' on a collaborative project among equals. ] (]) 22:31, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
:::If 'Rashtra Pita" is used commonly in India for Gandhi, it should appear somewhere in a scholarly history book in English, but it . It doesn't even appear in the trade books on Gandhi (see ) or the popular biographies written by ], ] or ] (see ).
:::So, how did you divine the English-language reliable sources to consider this to be a commonly used expression?
:::How did you manage to sneak "Rashtra Pita" into the lead when there was no mention of it in the sub-section "Father of the Nation," that presumably the sentence in the lead was meant to summarize? (See the at the time of your edit).
:::India has 22 official languages. "Rashtra Pita", dear {{re|CapnJackSp}}, is an expression of Sanskritized Hindi. How did you manage to privilege Hindi and not ] or ] or ] for a so-called common expression? Hindi, to be sure, is the official language of the union, but "Father of the Nation" is not an official expression.
:::In other words, you have broken every rule in ] and then have had the gumption to lecture me on behavior. You should be reading ]. ]] 17:56, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
::::It is indeed used commonly for Gandhi - See <br>Quite a few books as well, havent bothered to sort through them yet. <br>And yet, this is one of the issues that I wanted to point out with your edits. You accuse me of "sneaking in" the phrase, when it had been there already prior to your removal of it. Indeed your change introduced "but not officially", which was in opposition to a prior consensus discussion amongst editors, as later pointed out by a different editor. Still, you could yet be right, and the phrasing might perhaps be better - But simply asserting it does not make it so.<br>If you had tried to raise these concerns, instead of reverting to your preferred version, it would have been more productive. That is my point here, that your interactions could be much better with other editors without much effort from your side.<br>Regardless of whether you chose to improve or not, I doubt my persistence here will change your mind. Good day to you. ] (]) 09:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::You have as evidence some links in the ] script used in the ]. Even if I were to allow that non-English language sources count on the English Misplaced Pages, how have you managed to privilege Hindi, my dear {{re|CapnJackSp}}, of the 22 major Indian languages? In ] he is very likely called something else as he is no doubt also in ]. You are unable to source at the minimal standards required for a high-level article such as Gandhi. I request that you not waste more of my time on my talk page. Best regards, ]] 10:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::@]: Your comment above suggests that non-English reliable and verifiable sources are not permitted on Misplaced Pages. ]. ] (]) 11:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Not at all, {{re|Bazza 7}}, but if Hindi-language sources are used in the lead of an article such as Gandhi's in the English-language Misplaced Pages, then the ] of showing that they are just as reliable as the ] English language sources being currently used&mdash;is the adder's. What is the Hindi-language equivalent of a major scholarly publisher in English, such as: Cambridge University Press, or Oxford, Princeton, Chicago, Pennsylvania, ...? I'm unaware that there is any equivalent. The scholarship is simply not there.
:::::::There is also the question of adequate and reliable translation. Who will translate? I recall a nominator at FAC using Arabic sources for a series of articles on Islamic/Arabic kingdoms in the early medieval era. The nominator was using their own interpretation born of conflating early medieval Arabic and modern Arabic. I learned this from an Arabic-language expert whom I consulted about the texts. ]] 11:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I recall a similar problem with a very earnest editor who had nominated a ] author or poet (i'm forgetting now) at FAC The author or poet had almost no English-language material. What there was in Gujarati was hagiographic and simplistic. It really should not have been brought to FAC. ]] 11:59, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:::A masterclass in irritating someone on their own talk page followed by a masterclass in how to rain down a tonne of bricks on someone who does so in return. ] (]) 18:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

== July 2023 ==

] Your recent editing history at ] shows that you are currently engaged in an ]; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the ] to work toward making a version that represents ] among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about ]. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant ] or seek ]. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary ].

'''Being involved in an edit war can result in you being ]'''&mdash;especially if you violate the ], which states that an editor must not perform more than three ] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;'''even if you do not violate the three-revert rule'''&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> ] (]) 14:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

:Please don't facilely template competent editors. ]] 14:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

== Gandhi ==

Oh well, I tried! ] (]) 18:17, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

:And I owe you big time. Big time. ]] 18:40, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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India-related FPs I

  • Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle. Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle.
  • The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent.
  • The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats. The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats.
  • The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala. The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala.

India-related FPs II

  • The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands. The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands.
  • The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment. The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment.
  • The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts. The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts.
  • The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest. The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest.

India-related FPs III

India-related FPs IV

  • Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim
  • A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill. A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill.
  • A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva
  • A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic. A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic.

India-related FPs V

India-related FPs VI

  • The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller
  • An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010. An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010.
  • A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output. A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output.
  • A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day

India-related FPs VII

  • A bharatnatyam concert in 2014 A bharatnatyam concert in 2014
  • A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh. A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh.
  • A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan
  • An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh

India-related FPs VIII

India-related Classic Pictures-I

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Buddha related FPs I

  • Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945 Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945
  • 17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background. 17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background.
  • The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea. The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea.
  • Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554 Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554

Buddha related FPs II

  • Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand. Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand.
  • Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton
  • English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century
  • Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum

Things to do on 6/10/22

  • Thapa, Namrata; Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (2020), "Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)", in Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (ed.), Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture, Singapore: Springer Nature, ISBN 978-981-15-1485-2 and
  • Tamang, Jyoti P.; Sarkar, Prabir K; Hesseltine, Clifford W (1988). "Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling". Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture. 44 (4): 375–385. doi:10.1002/jsfa.2740440410.
  • Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

Have a look

Have a look . Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Have reverted. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Have a look at these edits. British Era census data. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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