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== RfC: Taiwan, "country" or "state" ==
== Zhongzheng Memorial ==


There has been continued discussion and failure to reach consensus on whether Taiwan should be called a "country" or "state" on the Taiwan article: ] I've opened an RfC to come to consensus. ] - 9:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Are you guys okay with having Zhongzheng Memorial as the image for our project banner? I thought it was one the more symbolized structure of Taiwan. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 17:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


== New temple stubs ==
Something more 'Taiwan' would be better. ] 00:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


Are any project members able to help expand the following stubs?
Personally, I prefer Taipei 101. CKS Memorial is the symbol of Taiwan's past, the martial law era, and I think we should go with something that symbolizes the future of Taiwan. 23:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


* ]
:Oh yeah, I vote for Taipei 101. --] 07:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
* ]


---] <sub>(])</sub> 23:31, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
::Why is it changed back again?--] 01:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


== Rainbow crossings in Taipei ==
::: -] 06:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


* ''']'''
Can you get rid of the Chiang Kao-shek Memorial? Is the WikiItaly page fronted by a pic of Mussolini? There are so many things that can symbolize Taiwan. Localization movements have focused on nature, especially Jade Mountain (Yu Shan). A nice pic of that would make a much better statement about Taiwan. If you want something recognized, go with Taipei 101. But CKS? He shot thousands of people in Taiwan.... Michael Turton


Improvements welcome! ---] <sub>(])</sub> 12:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
: Let's not get into the ] topic. I agree your opinion. The picture is now changed back. If the user tries to change it back again, we will try to get the template protected. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 19:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


== ] ==
Chiang Kai-shek was an honorable man who protected the Free Republic of China. He should be respected and not compared to Mussolini. You guys should not make controversial comments like that ] 01:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


She has recently died, and the article has many CN tags. The story is being widely reported in the English news media so any help to improve would be appreciated. These CN tags need to be resolved before it can run on the front page for RD. ] (]) 12:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
== Selected articles/pictures on Portal page ==


== Proposed split of ] ==
Hi, can anyone come up with a way that everyone can add/edit items for upcoming:
I have proposed a split of the ] article which may be of interest to this project. I would appreciate your thoughts in the discussion on the ]. ] (]) 11:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
* Selected article
* Selected biography
* Selected picture
* Did you know


== ] for DYK? ==
So that we have a monthly selection prepared at least 3 months in advance? — ] 10:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


This is a new article translated by my students. It could use a c/e if anyone is interested, and likewise, it could be a nice DYK nom (but the process of DYK nom is too complex for my students, and there's little time remaining in the course). I am mentioning this here in case anyone would like to c/e and nom this. Cheers, <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 03:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Can we organize it the way it is organized in ] right now? <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 21:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. Can you change the templates so that it functions like ]. So that selected articles/biography/picture will display automatically each month (or every day, if anyone is dedicated enough to find and add articles in advance). — ] 02:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

It's already set that way, but I just fixed the title so it's more clear. Should we put a article nomination place, or just discuss next month's selected page in talk pages? <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 07:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

:I've just created ]. How about a page like that? If it's not good, then you can list it for speedy deletion. — ] 09:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

:: Ah, I created a similar page on Portal:Taiwan a while ago, ]. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 00:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::: ( b^ 0^)b w00t — ] 00:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Ethnicities in Taiwan ==

]
keeps deleting this image from ]. He says it is inaccurate and accuses it of being PRC propaganda. Is it incorrect to call Hakka and Minnan people Han Chinese? And is the image violating NPOV? — ] 06:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

:OK, maybe that guy is a nut, he's gone off to write "non-Han Chinese" in ] and ]. I hate it when people get all political... — ] 07:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I uploaded a newer image at Commons which replaced "Han Chinese" with just "Chinese". I hope it's OK, since that seemed to be the only issue that person had over the image. If there's any objection please leave me a message on my talk page. — ] 22:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

:Anyone ever look at this page? lol. There's a bigger issue now, see ]. There is a view that Taiwanese (Hoklo & Hakka) are no longer Chinese and should be regarded seperately as "Taiwanese" and not Chinese. I think it's based on the claim that over 88% of Taiwanese have aboriginal blood. If anyone in Taiwan can find the research or any source to support this claim, please help out. — ] 01:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

:: Shouldn't spend too much time arguing with these kind of people. But I'll see what I can look up... <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 07:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

This problem still exists. I suggest the articles that are controversial be semi-protected, such as:
* ]
* ]
* ]

There is an anonymous user who is definitely pushing a POV agenda. I noticed his recent edits in ], where he has changed the text under '''Nationality''' which said Taiwanese are officially "Chinese citizens" (fact) to "Taiwanese citizens". Other things is to change anything "Chinese" to "Taiwanese" such as the population of ROC is 98% Taiwanese instead of 98% Chinese — ] 04:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The Taiwanese are not officially Chinese citizens, and being a Chinese citizen is not an ethnicity. It would be better to use the systems used by the locals themselves, who divide Taiwan into four broad groups, Mainlanders (post-1945 Chinese immigrants), Taiwanese (pre-1945), Hakkas, and aborigines. The term "Taiwanese" is confusing because it can designate any or all those groups. -- Michael Turton

== Awards ==

]

] have created this image '''(see left)''' a while ago. While it's unsuitable for WikiProject China, I think it will suit perfectly for WikiProject Taiwan. It combines together the Wikipedian barnstar and the Blue Sky White Sun Medal of Honor together. Should we use this image for our awards template? <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 01:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
{{-}}
:I prefer something original and Taiwan related. =) ] ] <sup>]]]</sup> 06:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

== Misplaced Pages Day Awards ==

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of ] proposal for an appreciation week to end on Misplaced Pages Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at ] where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. ] 20:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

== ROC Barnstar of National Merit ==

Hi,

Didn't see an ROC BoNM, so I made one. It was pretty tricky to make, too:

<nowiki>{{subst:BoNM-ROC|message ~~~~ }}</nowiki>

...gets you

{| style="border: 1px solid {{{border|gray}}}; background-color: {{{color|#fdffe7}}};"
|rowspan="2" valign="top" | ]
|rowspan="2" |
|style="font-size: large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;" | '''The ] Barnstar of Merit'''&nbsp;
|-
|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | This is a test of the barnstar system. Had this been a real barnstar, you would have been notified. ] 22:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
|}

* Cheers --] 22:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Awesome. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 23:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
:Looks good -- but I'd also recommend having a version that would be akin to the shape of Taiwan like the one on the DPP flag, and perhaps one more that somehow harmonizes the colors blue and green, as variations. --] (]) 23:16, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

::I can do that.. maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow; depends on how many chores my better half has planned for me to do ;-) --] 23:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


Erm, what do you think:

{| style="border: 1px solid {{{border|gray}}}; background-color: {{{color|#fdffe7}}};"
|rowspan="2" valign="top" | ]
|rowspan="2" |
|style="font-size: large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;" | '''The ] Barnstar of Merit'''&nbsp;
|-
|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | test ] 05:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
|}

--] 05:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

: Looks good to me. Barnstar of National Merit doesn't suit Taiwan's complex identity very well though. I don't know... <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 06:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::That's what all the barnstars of this type are called. Here's what to type: <nowiki>{{subst:BoNM-ROC2|message ~~~~ }}</nowiki> --] 13:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

:::Looks good to me. --] (]) 16:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

(undent) to avoid fistfights etc. I'm just gonna take out the word "national." That should be safe. --] 16:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

:It is my opinion that removing "National" is in fact POV (since it then put ROC at a lower stature than PRC), and with Ling.Nut's consent, I've reverted the two templates. Even if one believes that ROC's not a "nation" now, it clearly was for much of its history. --] (]) 17:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== Joining to the project ==

Hi there, i have seen the project and it seems so interesting. :D , How do i join in?. --] 21:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


Hello. Currently, I am working on the police system in Taiwan. It is named by ]. I would like to make that topic as a part of WikiProject Taiwan. However, I am not sure it is OK or not. Plus, I am just a new kid in the town. Please help me to do it and do it right.]

== Copyright image tag ==
The Republic of China Copyright Code, article 50 state:

以中央或地方機關或公法人名義公開發表之著作，在合理範圍內，得重製或公開播送。

I think that there should be a image copyright/fair use tag to tag the ROC governmental images with this explanation (which I would translate as "Works publicly published under the authorship of a central government or local government agency, or of a public legal person, may be reproduced or publicly transmitted within reasonable bounds"), but I don't deal a whole lot with images and templates. Perhaps someone might be interested in taking a stab at it? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 17:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

==Naming Conventions==
I think we should have different naming conventions than the ones in WP:China. It is confusing sometimes, because most of the people have their family names presented first, but some are presented last, such as ]. The names of the Taiwanese people are different from the names of the Chinese people, the Taiwanese names have a dash in between. So I think we should create new naming conventions for Taiwanese people.--] 02:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

: The Chinese Naming Conventions mentions about the use of Wade-Giles, so it shouldn't be that confusing. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 01:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

==Soliciting comments: ]==
Hi all, I'm soliciting comments at ]. Would appreciate community input. Thanks. ] 21:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

The article about ], a former president of ], may be deleted unless reliable references are added to the article. Please see ]. Perhaps an interwiki link could be added to the Chinese-language article on this person if one exists. --] 02:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

: The discussion is now over, and the result was '''Keep'''. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>(]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;])</small> 19:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

== Naming conventions ==

Please join the discussion at ]. --] 17:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

I created an article for ], Taiwan novelist and leader of ]. It is still a stub and I welcome the Taiwan project editors to expand it. ] 00:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

== "Love Boat" nominated for deletion ==

Folks may want to comment on the AfD for ] (or the Taiwan "Love Boat" program). ] 14:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

== Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall ==

]: Why does this article have a high importance for Taiwan? I don't think it's that important, I mean it might be important to the ROC but this is WikiProject Taiwan.--] 23:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:Wow how ironic. Jerry says that Republic of China is equal to Taiwan. Then he says SYS Memorial Hall is important for the ROC but this is wikiproject Taiwan, meaning that he admits Taiwan and the ROC is not equal. How ironic. You hypocrite. ] 23:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::I never said they were equal.--] 00:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

You implied it. Stop being a hypocrite. You are contradicitng yourself all the time and the Misplaced Pages community is getting tired of your pro-dpp and pro-taiwan independence POV. ] 01:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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RfC: Taiwan, "country" or "state"

There has been continued discussion and failure to reach consensus on whether Taiwan should be called a "country" or "state" on the Taiwan article: Talk:Taiwan#Taiwan...is_a_country? I've opened an RfC to come to consensus. User:Stephen Balaban - 9:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

New temple stubs

Are any project members able to help expand the following stubs?

---Another Believer (Talk) 23:31, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Rainbow crossings in Taipei

Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 12:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Chiung Yao

She has recently died, and the article has many CN tags. The story is being widely reported in the English news media so any help to improve would be appreciated. These CN tags need to be resolved before it can run on the front page for RD. Harizotoh9 (talk) 12:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed split of Landlord deity

I have proposed a split of the Landlord deity article which may be of interest to this project. I would appreciate your thoughts in the discussion on the talk page. Erynamrod (talk) 11:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Chiang Zhongzheng's Diary for DYK?

This is a new article translated by my students. It could use a c/e if anyone is interested, and likewise, it could be a nice DYK nom (but the process of DYK nom is too complex for my students, and there's little time remaining in the course). I am mentioning this here in case anyone would like to c/e and nom this. Cheers, Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 03:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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