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== Potentially inaccurate information about Iranian tribes == |
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== Nonsense sources. == |
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Different tribes are named as Iranian tribes with no references. Please either cite a prominent resource or remove that part. |
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''Mehrjoo, Zohreh; Fattahi, Zohreh; Beheshtian, Maryam; Mohseni, Marzieh; Poustchi, Hossein; Ardalani, Fariba; Jalalvand, Khadijeh; Arzhangi, Sanaz; Mohammadi, Zahra; Khoshbakht, Shahrouz; Najafi, Farid'' |
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== Revising the section on the history of Western vs. Eastern Iranian peoples == |
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What's that nonsense sided iranian sources with full of propaganda about this so called heterogenicty of bmac Iranians with %3 Aryan elements lol :) ] (]) 14:44, 28 April 2022 (UTC) |
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I would suggest revising the sections on the history of Eastern and Western Iranian peoples. Firstly, the division into Eastern and Western is a linguistic one and not necessarily the best way to distinguish between different cultural groups. In fact, the section on Eastern Iranian peoples includes only Steppe-Iranian peoples who spoke languages that are categorised as Eastern but lived north or even west of the Western Iranians and are culturally very different from the Iranian peoples in the eastern part of the Iranian plateau. Moreover, Avestan is not an eastern Iranian language, but is so old that it preceded the division is west vs. east. Secondly, it is the people who lived in the eastern parts of ] who gave their name to this somewhat confusing category, but they are absent from this part of the article. Thirdly, I would suggest adding a section on the ] who actually lived in the eastern part of Greater Iran and are not yet covered in this article. ] (]) |
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You can not write UTC in the heterogeneity ok |
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== Persian was spoken in court in the Ottoman Empire? == |
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Whats the source of this claim? Or is this another Persian propaganda? ] (]) 18:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Kindly read ]. What exactly is "another Persian propaganda"? |
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There is a possibility of incoming sabotage attempts. |
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:* ''"As the Ottoman Turks learned Persian, the language and the culture it carried seeped not only into their court and imperial institutions but also into their vernacular language and culture. The appropriation of Persian, both as a second language and as a language to be steeped together with Turkish, was encouraged notably by the sultans, the ruling class, and leading members of the mystical communities."'' -- Inan, Murat Umut (2019) "Imperial Ambitions, Mystical Aspirations: Persian Learning in the Ottoman World" in Green, Nile (ed.). The Persianate World: The Frontiers of a Eurasian Lingua Franca. University of California Press. pp. 88–89. |
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Please keep a close eye on coming changes. ] (]) 10:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:* "''Persian served as a ‘minority’ prestige language of culture at the largely Turcophone Ottoman court."'' -- Baki Tezcan. (2012). "Ottoman Historical Writing" in José Rabasa (ed). '' The Oxford History of Historical Writing: Volume 3: 1400-1800 The Oxford History of Historical Writing: Volume 3: 1400-1800 ''. pp. 192–211 |
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:I dont know man, what are those Persian poems doing on topkapi Palace? |
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:Probably some more Persian propaganda ] (]) 09:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:This verges on casting ]. You are supposed to not restore your edit until you build a consensus. ] (]) 12:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::Your edit history is apparent to all, and you are sabotaging this page. |
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::The page referred to and the article itself both have sources that are supporting the change. |
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::Stop edit warring ] (]) 03:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Let's get this straight. I have over 11,000 edits, you . I don't even have to extend your edit history. ] (]) 04:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Good for you, and yet you go around reverting edits with no sources. |
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::::Stop sabotaging ] (]) 08:26, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::I am not casting aspersions, you can't do something and then when it is pointed out say "aspersions" ] (]) 03:51, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 August 2023 == |
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Add Iranian diaspora map to infobox. |
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:{{not done}}:<!-- Template:EEp --> This artice is about the Iranian ''peoples'', not about Iranians. See the hatnote and the opening sentence of this article. –] (]) 11:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Please remove extraneous link for "Iran" in this hatnote per ]. ] (]) 14:29, 16 August 2023 (UTC) |
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Different tribes are named as Iranian tribes with no references. Please either cite a prominent resource or remove that part.
I would suggest revising the sections on the history of Eastern and Western Iranian peoples. Firstly, the division into Eastern and Western is a linguistic one and not necessarily the best way to distinguish between different cultural groups. In fact, the section on Eastern Iranian peoples includes only Steppe-Iranian peoples who spoke languages that are categorised as Eastern but lived north or even west of the Western Iranians and are culturally very different from the Iranian peoples in the eastern part of the Iranian plateau. Moreover, Avestan is not an eastern Iranian language, but is so old that it preceded the division is west vs. east. Secondly, it is the people who lived in the eastern parts of Greater Iran who gave their name to this somewhat confusing category, but they are absent from this part of the article. Thirdly, I would suggest adding a section on the Avestan people who actually lived in the eastern part of Greater Iran and are not yet covered in this article. Kjansen86 (talk)
Add Iranian diaspora map to infobox.