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== Text wrap around images == == Vandalism Removal ==


I've just found out that an IP ] me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks ] (]) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm sure not many people visit Signpost on mobile, but I've realised that the text wrap around images on Signpost articles isn't working well. I came to ] from a Depths of Wiki tweet, and the leading words of the obituary are unreadable due to being broken into fragments across many lines as it is pushed to the left of the image that already takes up much of the space. It is reproducible with other Signpost articles too. <span class="nowrap">&#8212;''']'''</span> <sup class="nowrap">(] • {]•]})</sup> 23:01, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|JPxG}} should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">]</span> (]) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:Mobile is fucked, desktop is fucked, and I don't think anyone understands how the stylesheets work. The good news is that I might, soon, and then I will do my best to fix it. ''']'''×''']''' 04:25, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
::Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|CX Zoom}} IDK what browser you're using but, if you increase the size of your ] within ] (by toggling 'Desktop site'‡ button under the hamburger menu) it reflows the page and things usually look fine… even on the dumpster fire mobile web version. Also: within the Misplaced Pages mobile apps, data comes off the Wikimedia API so, formatting is stripped, and images live on separate lines from text. Apps are buggy as all hell in their on right, however (often can't reply on this very page for example)…
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:‡ not to be confused with the 'Desktop'/'Mobile view' button at bottom of Wiki pages. --&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</sup></span>]] 07:23, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
::]Thanks for letting me know that Browser's desktop mode fixes it, and I assume that is due to the fact that all elements (texts and images) appear to reduce in size in that mode allowing more space for complete words to appear. However, on the right you can see how a Signpost article with image in portrait mode looks like in mobile generally. Another way to view it would be to view it in landscape mode, but portrait mode should also work fine without needing to change mode or orientation. Thanks! <span class="nowrap">&#8212;''']'''</span> <sup class="nowrap">(] • {]•]})</sup> 07:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
:::It's primarily due to ] being shit and full of ]. Files are displayed within tables – rendering engine of the browser tries to wedge those tables into a tiny viewport, instead of doing sensible wordwrapping. The two coupled together = pain and suffering… with WMF web developers doing the flogging… Also doesn't matter if JP makes markup changes on their posts, as the mobile version here overrides competent formatting or markup choices. --&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</sup></span>]] 08:53, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
::::MediaWiki doesn't use tables for images. Editors do. —] (] • ]) 11:59, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


== Writer Request ==
== No edit links next to "Discuss this story" section headers ==


I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. ] (]) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
It appears that there are no edit links next to any of the "Discuss this story" section headers. This could be fixed by moving the <code><nowiki>== Discuss this story ==</nowiki></code> markup from the ] to the ] and then adding the section header below (which could be done with ]).


:Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! ] (]) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Any thoughts? ] (]) 17:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)


== Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced ==
:Pinging {{ping|Matma Rex}}, who added the section header to the "commentspage" template the day after New Year's Day. ] (]) 14:28, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
::No objections from me. Note, however, that there are two templates that generate these headings:
::* On a discussion page, e.g. ], it comes from ]
::* On an article page, e.g. ], it comes from ]
::When making my edits earlier this year, I had to add different markup in both places: .
::You'll have to be careful so that the headings don't get duplicated or removed anywhere, this can probably be done by wrapping them in <code>&lt;noinclude></code> on the discussion pages when making the change. You should definitely test on a single page that everything works (including the section edit and subscribe links) before letting AWB loose. ] <small>]</small> 15:16, 27 September 2023 (UTC)


Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — ] ] 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== Research for next ''Signpost'' issue ==
:@] it was announced, ]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of ] did not get it (). — ] ] 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


== Reply button is not working ==
https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/12912/11332 ―]<span style="color:red">❤]☮]☺]☯</span> 07:43, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said
:Thanks! I just this from WikiResearch, and it will go on our of items to cover in the next issue of "Recent research".
" Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page"
:PS: We have a dedicated page for suggestions like this ]. Regards, ] (]) 09:04, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
] (]) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::I ''knew'' there was a page for this, but couldn't immediately find it. Thanks, HB. ―]<span style="color:red">❤]☮]☺]☯</span> 18:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|R1F4T}} - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. ]<sub>(])</sub> <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added 19:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
::Very belatedly redoing ping to {{ping|R1F4T}} ... ] (]) 15:14, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


== Single-page edition is broken ==
== A few suggestions about the ''Signpost'' website ==


] is nearly empty, and ] shows the list of stories (slightly broken) but not the stories itself. {{ping|JPxG}} can you take a look? ] (]) <small>(please use ]!)</small> 08:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
@] Hello, I just wanted to thank you again for implementing for the ''Signpost'': it definitely has got potential!


:In bed but I think it is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed -- throwing a ref error is what the single page says. Try <pre>intitle:"Signpost/2025-01-15" insource:/\<ref/</pre> to find ref tags in articles ? I would appreciatr someone helping eith this. <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't know if you already saw my comment on ], but I just wanted to point out a few graphical issues I've encountered over there. Firstly, some of the pictures included in the articles look misplaced and tend to "invade" quotes (like on , for example); secondly, I think the bold font used for the articles' headlines and paragraphs is a bit too hard on the eyes, since it appears to be in heavy contrast with everything else...
::ohhhh i bet its the CALCULATORS. well ok here are the pagesizes

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/From the editors}} From the editors
Speaking of high/low contrast, what about including an option to switch from a light background to a dark one, and vice versa? Anyway, keep it up, because you've already done a great job so far! : ) ] (]) 09:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Traffic report}} Traffic report

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/In the media}} In the media
== Watchlist notices ==
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Technology report}} Technology report

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Essay}} Essay
If I'm reading ] correctly, the Signpost hasn't had a watchlist notice since May. Is this a problem with the Signpost publishing script, or something else? Could it be fixed? This is the main way I was getting reminded to read the Signpost.
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Opinion}} Opinion

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/News and notes}} News and notes
Is the Signpost still publishing bi-weekly? Was that a factor in watchlist notices getting declined? Personally I liked it when the Signpost published monthly instead of bi-weekly, so just throwing that out there. –] <small>(])</small> 16:09, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Serendipity}} Serendipity
:I just put ] on my watchlist. The traffic on this talk page is low enough that nearly every time this page pops up on my watchlist, it's for a new issue. I think you can also get a notice delivered to your talk page. – ] (]) 16:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed}} Op-ed
:We got pushback from the community on using the watchlist notices when we made publication more frequent than monthly: see ]. I would not say it was consistent or overwhelming, but if somebody wanted to get it started again, it would probably need some kind of approval. The "monthly only" dictum might have spawned from the closure of ]. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">]</span> (]) 16:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/In focus}} In focus
::Perhaps the publishing script could be modified to only request a watchlist notice once every other issue. –] <small>(])</small> 16:47, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Arbitration report}} Arbitration report
:::For context, {{section link|Misplaced Pages talk:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Newsroom/Archive 35|Watchlist notifications}} is where the last discussion on this can be seen. ] (]) 17:17, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Humour}} Humour
::<b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Okay, God knows what is actually wrong -- I am severely in need of going back to bed -- but I have gotten some grotesque trailer-park hack to work so that people can, at least, read a working single-page edition for these first few hours. This should be diagnosed and fixed when I wake up. Thanks to {{ping|Tamzin}} for figuring out that just transclusing the articles directly worked... <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Thank you! ] (]) <small>(please use ]!)</small> 09:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Looks like the original version of the single page edition works now, but <code>Post‐expand include size: 2003573/2097152 bytes</code> is really close to the limit. You are probably right that the calculator examples take up quite a bit of that limit (The calculator article is 892980 / 2097152 bytes which is 43% of that limit). ] (]) 12:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Possibly unrelated to the above, I cleaned up some mismatched block and article start/end tags that were causing some of the articles to be too narrow in the single-page edition. A check for matching start/end templates could go on the publication checklist. – ] (]) 18:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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Vandalism Removal

I've just found out that an IP removed me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks Nobody (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@JPxG: should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ Bri (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. jp×g🗯️ 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Writer Request

I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. WikiEditor5678910 (talk) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! Carrite (talk) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced

Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — Alien  3
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15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

@Alien333 it was announced, for me at least. ''']''' (talkcontribs) 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of the interwiki list did not get it (random example). — Alien  3
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15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Reply button is not working

While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said " Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page" R1F4T (talk) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@R1F4T: - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. Smallbones(smalltalk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Very belatedly redoing ping to @R1F4T: ... Graham87 (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Single-page edition is broken

Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Single/2025-01-15 is nearly empty, and Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Single shows the list of stories (slightly broken) but not the stories itself. @JPxG: can you take a look? FunIsOptional (talk) (please use ping!) 08:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

In bed but I think it is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed -- throwing a ref error is what the single page says. Try
intitle:"Signpost/2025-01-15" insource:/\<ref/
to find ref tags in articles ? I would appreciatr someone helping eith this. jp×g🗯️ 08:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
ohhhh i bet its the CALCULATORS. well ok here are the pagesizes
  • 3,423 From the editors
  • 84,211 Traffic report
  • 18,148 In the media
  • 27,219 Technology report
  • 5,495 Essay
  • 8,006 Opinion
  • 16,051 News and notes
  • 11,154 Serendipity
  • 19,101 Op-ed
  • 16,376 In focus
  • 5,760 Arbitration report
  • 4,172 Humour
jp×g🗯️ 08:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, God knows what is actually wrong -- I am severely in need of going back to bed -- but I have gotten some grotesque trailer-park hack to work so that people can, at least, read a working single-page edition for these first few hours. This should be diagnosed and fixed when I wake up. Thanks to @Tamzin: for figuring out that just transclusing the articles directly worked... jp×g🗯️ 08:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! FunIsOptional (talk) (please use ping!) 09:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Looks like the original version of the single page edition works now, but Post‐expand include size: 2003573/2097152 bytes is really close to the limit. You are probably right that the calculator examples take up quite a bit of that limit (The calculator article is 892980 / 2097152 bytes which is 43% of that limit). Bawolff (talk) 12:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Possibly unrelated to the above, I cleaned up some mismatched block and article start/end tags that were causing some of the articles to be too narrow in the single-page edition. A check for matching start/end templates could go on the publication checklist. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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