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| Would you happen to be a fan of ''Fight Club'' at all? I have quite a few citations to work into my ], but I need a pair of ears for recording all the main points in the film's DVD audio commentary. —] (] • ] • ]) - 16:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Freddy Vs. Jason == | |||
| :I'm not sure if the special edition DVD has additional commentaries to the one on the plain DVD. There's a couple of bits about Nietzsche and ''The Graduate'' in the commentary (according to the film article's Influences section, anyway), so if these pop up, it's probably the right one. I'll try to find out if there are numerous commentaries. —] (] • ] • ]) - 16:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Okay, I don't think there was a need for you to remove that statement when it's supported by what I stated in the summary and the fact that Jason Goes to Hell features an appearance by Freddy at the very end and production on the crossover happening afterwards, but stalled for a few years until it was finally made and released in 2003. It's rather clear the movie follows on after Jason Goes to Hell so I don't see why there needs to be a source to indicate that. - ] - 6 October 2013 at 07:14 (UTC) | |||
| Should you just take a notepad whilst viewing? Sure, that's what I do. ] 17:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Freddy == | |||
| I'm not in a hurry for the information. Just do it on your own time, and I'll work on using the other citations. Notepad is probably the best idea, just write down the facts in bullet style or however you like it done. —] (] • ] • ]) - 17:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hi. The age-old question, "Is Freddy Krueger a ghost?". I thought he was a ], and that's what he's described as ]. If he is, he's a ghost, and is entitled to all the ghostly honors ], no? Why do you say he isn't a ghost? I've actually only seen the first film, so my Kruegerpology is quite lacking, and I leave it to the experts. But if he's not a ghost, none of his films should be listed on the ghost film page, which would make it much less bloodier and remove some of the sound of muffled screaming. Good to meet you! ] 12:55 8 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I took a look at the DVD to see if there was any chance that the commentary was captioned. (It wasn't.) However, though, there are ''four'' commentaries -- one by David Fincher, one by David Fincher, Brad Pitt, Edward Norton, and Helena Bonham Carter, one by Chuck Palahniuk (author) and Jim Uhls (screenwriter), and one by Alex McDowell (production designer), Jeff Cronenweth (cinematographer), Michael Kaplan (costume designer, I think), and Kevin Haug (visual effects supervisor). I absolutely do not expect you to watch all of them -- that's a high order indeed. If you do undertake any one of them, though, let me know what it is. I'm hoping to develop the themes and motifs in my project, so you could wait until I exhaust all possible resources, so when you watch with commentary, you can skip anything that you recall from the project as redundant. I really wish these things were captioned... I'd eat it up, practically. —] (] • ] • ]) - 22:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Happy Holidays! == | |||
| ::The one with Fincher and the actors would probably be ideal. —] (] • ] • ]) - 22:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| (Not thinking, I responded on my own talk page to your comment.. that's a first.) Anything theme-based would be nice... certain keywords like anything Nietzsche-based, self-identity, and whatnot. Listen for anarcho-primitivism, too -- another editor and I were discussing this theme on the film article's talk page. He seemed pretty set on supporting that theme, but I haven't really seen any outright evidence of it in the links on my project subpage. —] (] • ] • ]) - 17:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Alright, thank you for trying anyway. I wasn't really sure what the commentaries would contain. You don't have to do anything further if you don't want to; I can imagine trying to juggle audio and video that aren't connected. Appreciate the effort. —] (] • ] • ]) - 23:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) is wishing you ]! This greeting (and season) promotes ] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> | |||
| ::Very nice! Thank you very much for all that information! I'm already thinking of ways to fit the information in. Is the Nietzsche thing ]? And the Z-word, does that have anything to do with ]? —] (] • ] • ]) - 05:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ''Spread the cheer by adding {{tls|HH2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.'' | |||
| Any plans to archive your talk page soon? It's rather long in the tooth... —] (] • ] • ]) - 15:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| There's definitely a lot that can be said about everything. I just worked in a couple of citations, and I'll see how much of your commentary I can add next. It's like a jigsaw puzzle; trying to figure out what fits. Can you check out Themes and suggest any kind of setup? There are some overlapping bits, and some independent observations would be nice. —] (] • ] • ]) - 16:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :Ok, thanks for your advice. I'll see how I can work things together. I've seen the VW Bug reference on a couple of other citations as well, so I'll work that in. One thing -- can you re-explain this: "Felt that the Narrators gendering of Tyler was based on Marla. He created Tyler as a male to fulfill a relationship that he felt he couldn't"? I'm not sure what it means, especially considering another part of the DVD commentary where the narrator hung up on Marla because he saw too much of himself in her. —] (] • ] • ]) - 17:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Got it! That makes sense. Check out the final paragraph of "Self-identity" -- I find that piece of information very cool. I'm just kind of throwing quotes into the project and re-writing as prose, and I think I'll be fitting the passages together last. There's probably too many themes... I think I'll aim for a maximum of four; need to see how things break down. —] (] • ] • ]) - 17:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) is wishing you ]! This greeting (and season) promotes ] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> | |||
| Yep, the reiteration is definitely helpful, goes to show that these themes aren't just mentioned in passing. I have to admit, doing this work on one of my favorite films changes my perception of it. I think I was originally interested in Tyler's dialectic, but these interviews and all have shaped a deeper philosophy than that. Definitely am looking forward to putting this article forward. —] (] • ] • ]) - 18:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ''Spread the cheer by adding {{tls|HH2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.'' | |||
| Definite reiteration! has Fincher saying, "I don't know if it's Buddhism, but there's the idea that on the path to enlightenment you have to kill your parents, your god, and your teacher. So the story begins at the moment when the Edward Norton character is 29 years old. He's tried to do everything he was taught to do, tried to fit into the world by becoming the thing that he isn't. He's been told, "If you do this, get an education, get a good job, be responsible, present yourself in a certain way, your furniture and your car and your clothes, you'll find happiness." And he hasn't. And so the movie introduces him at the point when he's killed off his parents and he realizes that they're wrong. But he's still caught up, trapped in this world he's created for himself. And then he meets Tyler Durden, and they fly in the face of God - they do all these things that they're not supposed to do, all the things that you do in your 20s when you're no longer being wathced over by your parents, and end up being, in hindsight, very dangerous. And then finally, he has to kill off this teacher, Tyler Durden. So the movie is really about that process of maturing." How cool is that? —] (] • ] • ]) - 18:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Could use your help!== | |||
| :I need help figuring out this passage, as I'm not sure what Norton is trying to say: "And in moving towards her ... in a way, I think she's almost like his female animus. She's exactly the same as he is, on a certain level, and he can move towards her and have a connection. He can go toward this more seductive, negativist approach or someone who's essentially saying, "Let's try something else. Don't go towards what you know already." So he moves towards that. I don't mean negative in the sense of bad, but in the sense of, let's contend with what we've been sold on." Any ideas? —] (] • ] • ]) - 18:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for your assistance in other page edits. I am messaging you because I've been correcting the heavy metal band, ]'s page. I corrected the discography list to be in a chart format, and yet I cannot get the chart to look correct for the life of me. I've done charts before and for whatever reason the format is all skewed. If you could check it out and maybe fix it, that'd be appreciated! | |||
| Thanks. | |||
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| == Wonder Woman film == | |||
| I'm kind of hung up on schoolwork for a while, so I'm putting any major editing effort on hold. The studies have kind of piled up, and I need to cut down on it. —] (] • ] • ]) - 23:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hey! You've helped me before. WB just released the first Wonder Woman poster for the film. I have changed photos before and they always get reverted/deleted. Here's the poster . Thanks for the help. | |||
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| hello hi | |||
| :I see that you're citing the DVD commentary to categorize the movie as a black comedy. I don't think it fits, and, not that I am as cinematically knowledged as you seem to be (I'm jealous...), if it doesn't fit, and the only "proof" is a commentary, then perhaps the commentary is mis-applying the term. I hope I'm making some coherent sense in my babbling. Please let me know what your thoughts are on this. —]] 18:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::No sweat. Thanks for the good explanation, and since my university's spring break begins today, I just might have time to do that :). —]] 18:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks (Sandbox Info) == | |||
| Ahhh, very much appreciated sir. Thanks for your help. ♣ ] <sup><font color="FF0000">]</font> '''§''' <font color="FF1234">]</font></sup> ♣ 19:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I have a friend from school that got banned but didn't understand why. Is there anything I can do or anyone else can do to remove his ban? He seemed really depressed since he just join today and got banned. Any Ideas? Thanks. ] 23:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I was Banned due to a misunderstanding it has been fixed so you can delete this topic.] 17:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| yeah thats him.] 19:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Spider-Man 3 Image== | |||
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| Heya. I was looking over the recent edits to the article, and noted you removed the image of the symbiote covering Brock. I read the edit summary, and agree that the informatity of calling him Eddie may be a bit much, he had been named in full prior to the image's insertion, and through prior images as well. Maybe i am misunderstanding MoS concerns in this regard? As well, the looks good for a screen capture, and seems properly tagged. What am I missing that makes the picture unsuitable?] 12:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I see. Could it be possible that the person uploading the image didn't see the discussion regarding the image, since it has since been archived? The topic might be worth revisiting, as a great many more people are contributing to the article now, and a different concensus might need to be reached, in the interest of fairness. | |||
| :As well, I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "an image of Venom that it would be one of a full body shot (or as close to that as possible) because we will need it for comparison purposes." In comparison to what? When it is on Parker as opposed to Brock? Do you know if there is a press still being released that satisfies the purpose you are seeking? | |||
| :All images are eye candy, at least to some extent. Until a better picture comes along, I don't think it would be unreasonable to allow an image that the person uploaded with the proper tagging that has releveancy to the article. At least, until something better happens along.] 12:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Big, can you explain to me why the image cannot remain until you find the one you are looking for? I am not seeing the resistance to its placement as reasonable, and of course, ThuranX is a bit prickly.] 03:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Prickly? Interesting term. BigNole, I've since replied to his talk, where he told me to get off his talk page, and so I've sumamrized again all the reasons again, and supported your opinon that the screencap should not be included. ] 03:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I'm having trouble Assuming good faith about someone who feels that his singular opinion negates repeated discussions, just because they're in the archives, and that his presences means there's a 'whole new set of regular editors'. Frustrating. I'll contact some of the OTHER 'regualr editors. I still don't see any value in having a blurry screencap. ] 03:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I can understand why you think the image in question may be in question, but at least it is an image that is allowable, whereas the ones you are specifically looking for is not as of yet (if at all). My question is if there is some sort of guideline or policy that supports yout position of how "every image needs to serve a purpose greater ". I think that, because the picture in question was released as a marketing tool, that it appropriately belongs in the Promotion section. | |||
| :::::And I am sorry for calling you prickly, thuranX. I have had some experience with other editors with civility issues, so I am wary of folk who are even a bit uncivil. Forgive me for painting you with a brush dabbed up with someone else's rudeness.I think you misinterpreting my actions; I am not negating the discussions prior to now, but clearly, Misplaced Pages changes constantly, and obviously, new concensus is constantly being reevaluated. Obviously, it is not a singular opinion questioning that prior agreement, as I am not even the one who uploaded a pretty clear (and not blurry, as has been described) image. I am simply questioning the practice of refusing genuine imagery for imagery not yet (if ever) citable. The article is read by people every day, and there is no apparent policy that says that we cannot satisfy reader interest by providing images noteworthy and interesting. And, seeing as the image was used as a promotion and inerted in the Promotion header, it seems appropriate.] 04:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I didn't know that the image was only available for viewing for 24 hours. If it is no longer valid, then it is no longer valid. The reason I thought it was appropriate was because people would want to see it. Some people use Misplaced Pages not for the biting citations of Thematic components but simply to get the skinny on the latest, reliable info on the net. Sometimes they want to simply see a picture, for example, of the new Venom. Since we don't have the one that would feed to Production header perfectly, we have to go with what we have, and that is an image that is still fair use. Will that change? Maybe. By that time, there might be a better one out there. I am not suggesting overloading the article with images. I am simply saying that this is an image of Venom - the only one we have at this time, and it seems good to have at least ''one'' image of the film version Venom.] 04:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I understand your point. Perhaps I need a bit more experience with the application of fair use images in order to judge better. I wasn't retying to be a dick; the revert just seemed odd to me. Thank you very much for being patient and explaining it to me, Big.] 12:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, | |||
| I don't know if you're watching the ] page but I see you've blanked it. I will add more content in the morning like critical reception, summarise plot, etc. The infobox broke when I finished. It's notable for being a season finale and other episodes of the Arrowverse have episode pages. | |||
| :On a side note, could I trouble you to pop over to the Braveheart film article and give me a heads-up on what needs work, and what you would do to shape the article along? I have some ideas, and some questions, but I was hoping you would give me an unvarnished view.] 14:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Michael == | ||
| Not being the type to visit fansites (except to mostly point and laugh), I am not advocating adding a ton of useless links that consist of little more than someone's AOLspace or MySpace blog channels. I am thinking that the top two would be fine. I am not married to it one way or the other, Big; I am wondering if the limiting of the fansites is more of a personal interpretation, a guideline or an adhered to rule.] 14:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Thought I'd add on that some FA articles do have a bit more in the way of fansites. ] is one such FA article.] 14:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| http://www.mvegraveyard.com/home/nick-castle-returning-to-play-michael-myers | |||
| ==Spider-Man 3 Running Time== | |||
| It would be most appreciated if you wouldn't change my edits. I have given reliable sources(despite your claims) and I would like you to stop impeding my hard work. Further changes will result in bans. .] | |||
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| :hahaha. Bignole, report this guy for Harrassment and incivility. Coupled with his vandalisms, it should be good for a 24 block. ] 03:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ===Idea=== | |||
| I think you should run for Admin. Your the best canidate in my opinion. | |||
| You would probably get it. If you ever run for Admin let me know. Again thanks for all your help. | |||
| ] 03:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, i don't know about that. I think he'd make a ''much'' better Prom King. :) ] 02:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| If you could help me with Saving an article called ] I'd appreciate it. | |||
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| This is also the last time I'm going to ask for help this month. ] 22:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==another fair use== | |||
| I thought, after our recent conversation, that you'd appreciate . The user's off his meds, but the bit is kinda funny.] 02:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Bond == | |||
| True, but I don't like an image-less plot summary. Keep them and in a jiffy I'll nab superior images. Gun barrel and gambling table spring to mind. Or would you prefer Miami and Venice action sequences? ] 12:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| For the gambling scenes, or (4th picture down)? ] 12:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Your signature == | |||
| Could you make it just tiny bit less loud? Sample: | |||
| <blockquote>*'''Keep''' - Film articles generally have information about special effects in the production section, and it's standard procedure to break off if you have too much information.] ]]</blockquote> | |||
| It distracts a viewer's eyes from anywhere on the page... ] 21:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == RE: Hulk DVD == | |||
| I am working on this page and it is now up, so take a look ]. I created a seperate article because the main article on the show was too big, so no point making it bigger. I know that it is not known whether the remaining seasons will be released but we can always hope can't we?! Also, check out TVshowsondvd.com, Season 2 is coming soon, they have a note about it fairly recently. | |||
| Cheers ]23:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==300 Movie== | |||
| The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was 750 jews against the German army. And they died fighting. I think readers would like to know about this movie. What is the appropriate way to do this? --] 23:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Thanks, I appreciate your help. Keep me posted! --] 20:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I am not sure what you are talking about, Big in regards tot he PR section...] 01:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hey Big, could you take a look at my edits in 300? Some is warning me about 3RR. I don't think I've violated it or anything, but another set of eyes might be helpful here...] 02:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for the heads-up. The only other person to accuse me of 3RR was, well, you. And of course, that troll over in the CoM article.] 02:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, i don't know if he reported Thuran or Erik, but he did file a on me. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 02:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
| Thank you for the assist. It is mathematically impossible to calculate the size of the drink I owe you. Next time there is a Wiki Get-Together, I will have been able to have engineers construct one large enough. :) | |||
| We should probably let the other editors know about the tactic used here, so that we can watch each other's back, do you think?] 12:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| It would be easy to fault Alex, but he and the other guys working the 3RR desk are probably severely over-worked, and likely get tired of people flouting th rules every which way. I left myself open by editing too boldly. That said, I am glad that you helped him to re-examine the evidence. Again, my thanks on that. | |||
| We should be watching each other's backs, like making other editors aware when we need to tag out and let someone else jump in. You can bet your buttons they are probably working somewhat closely for the POV push.] 12:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| How solid is the ground upon which we can make removals of unconstructive comments from the Talk Page, wiki-ly speaking? While i agree that the comments you removed were unconstructive, I think we run the risk of being seen as censors, and targeted by POV pushers. It's kind of a slippery slope, in that what's to prevent users like one of the editors in the CoM article from deciding that certain contributions were "unconstructive"? I just don't want us to paint ourselves into any corners here.] 14:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Please be aware of this: ]. ] 20:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Just a question== | |||
| March 12, 2007 | |||
| Hey, it's me, ]. What happened to all the X deaths? I was going to point out to my friend that the friday deaths are much gorier, but found out that there is nothing! Can you answer on my user page? | |||
| Unencyclopedic? I don't get it. Oh well. | |||
| I thought you were going to delete the death list for Jason. Oh well, again. | |||
| And just one more question. How do you make those little stubs telling about the user. | |||
| Like "this user is a high school graduate" something like that to that effect. It's a little stubb with a picture. Almost every user has one, and I want one too. Are there already made pictures, or do I have to download them and size them? | |||
| ==300 Images== | |||
| I have the GN in pdf form, but haven't uploaded a lot of images before.I could email them to you and you could load them.] 21:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I am still kinda freaked out by how close the two mediums are to each other. With the exception of the all the nipple scenes in the film and the subplot involving Gorgo and Theron, the film could be considered a live-action version of the GN. I have more images, if you wish (Leonidas, the initial Persian Messenger, the second messenger, etc.). Just give me an address to send them to.] 21:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :WikiNew was suggesting that we might want to banish all the controversy stuff until the article gets more stable, but I think that's a bad idea. I may just be a masochist, but as a free and open encyclopedia, we take all comers - even the spazzy ones (after all, I was once spazzy). As well, i am learning more about the nuances of policy that Viriditas made me pretty much commit to memory, so - underhanded sneakiness aside, this is a learning experience. | |||
| That being said, I am tired of likely sock- and meat-puppets draining away the time we could be spending on other areas that desperately need attention. I think we should get an admin or two's opinion/approval for it, as the Persians will likely cry foul - thinking we are moving the controversy section off-article to quietly knife it to death in the Discussion Page or a '''Temp Page'''. The more i think about it, a Tmep Page may be what the doctor ordered. It allows the more vociferous elements to fight it out while we essentially direct interested traffic to the arena while working the rest of the article. | |||
| I proposed early on that a lot of the stuff be archived, with discussions likely to continue being "cliff-noted" set with new headers. So long as we are consistent in our applying no POV content from either side, most will either come around, get bounced for breaking the rules, or wander off, angry at the Unfairness Of It All. Frankly, I am a little saddened by this last group, as ThuronX seems to have grown a little disheartened in the same way. I don't really believe in disposable people, and would rather change these people's minds and bring them back into the fold rather than have them leave WP, or become jaded iconoclasts like User:Scumbag.] 22:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Perhaps we should put a link to the GN up at the top. Myself, I've never heard of the videogame. | |||
| I like Erik's philosophy that its easier to fix an article from the start rather than stumble over the train wreck of what it ends up as later. | |||
| I think a Temp Page and a great, big, shiny link to it on the Discussion Page would avoid 90% of the hassle, and let us crank up the work. We can revisit the Controversy section in a few weeks, after the screamers have spent themselves.] 23:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Well, should we get Admin approval (since the article is apparently very popular in WP, according to Alex), since there will likley be fallout. I'd like the admin umbrella. Let's go for the Temp page. Are most of the rest of the non-POV editors aboard?] 23:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Just don't take a gal to see it - she will feel as you would at a Hillary Duff fluff film (I said ''fluff''). In CoM, Erik seeme dto put a lot of faith in ] and someone named Ragman, I think. I often meet admins without knowing they are admins. | |||
| Frankly, I am surprised this isn't wildly popular with the male gay population - big, muscly handsome dudes running about in leather speedos and capes, getting all sweaty. However, I guess that might be a stereotype of what gay guys like; that said, being hetero, I wouldn't mind seeing a movie wherein gals who are nifty on their pins run about in leather bikinis and capes, getting all sweaty. | |||
| Er, did I say hat out loud?] 23:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Actually, I was thinking that it might be better for you to do it, as I am not quite as established as you are. We are asking them to cover our ass from the fallout of creating a Temp Page, and it would sound a lot better coming from a more established user. As for how we announce it, we simply archive most of the talk to date, write a post in bold letters stating that the conversations to date have been archived (and can still be seen), but that further conversations about the political implications and controversies and whatnot will be discussed for the time being in the Temp Page. We state that we are doing this because the topics appear to be too big for the article at this time, and when the article is more manageable, we will reintroduce the sections. Hopefully, some concensus will have been arrived at in the Temp Page. | |||
| ...or something like that.] 23:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Hey Bignole == | |||
| Read past my quite brief introduction there. I thought it was necessary since my userpage flashes "Greek" all over. ]] 23:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :After "" (last comment) ]. It's an .edu source for the comic book. ]] 23:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| If you think I need to remove the link to the conversation on Alex's page, let me know. As for AN/I, I am on my way now.] 12:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Consider it done.] 13:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I think we need to gather the editors accused to find out if mediation is the appropriate first step. This might end up going to ArbCom, and I want to be able to say we've taken all the intermediate steps. I don't want to add ThuranX, Erik or your name to an mediation submission without express consent to do so.] 13:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| He also went after ThuranX on , and in a really sneaky way (without naming Thuran, who would probably respond like gangbusters). Sigh. This guy ''really'' needs a mommy's hug.] 14:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I apologized for some of the name-calling stuff, and he decided to withdraw to 3RR complaint on you. You are free and clear, bud. ] 18:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Temp Page== | |||
| I think we have a from Alex. Contact who you think will be able to help out. I've never set up a Tempo Page, and think its creation needs to be trouble-free. | |||
| As I see it, the tasks are as follows: | |||
| # Creation of the Temp Page "controversies/political aspects" | |||
| # Notice at the top of the Discussion Page about the creation of the Temp Page, and what it is to be used for. | |||
| # Move Controversies and Political aspects sections from the article to the temp page | |||
| # Archiving talk up to that point. | |||
| Any thoughts?] 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Well, the Temp Page talk has been posted in Discussion. Feel free to comment. ] 20:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| being contested already...by Mardavich. :( ] 22:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Dude, lend a hand here. I am getting posts and private messages faster than I can respond to them...gah!] 23:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Night of the Living Dead plot == | |||
| You're right about the two instances mentioned. I hadn't paid much attention to the current version, but I don't think these were originally in the article during FAC. is how the plot looked in July 2006 when the article was promoted to FA. I had no idea it had grown so large. I apologize for my hasty dismissal of your original suggestion. ] 17:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Supes == | |||
| I don't know, man... I'm kind of re-evaluating my dedication as a Misplaced Pages editor. I'm not so interested in sharing my knowledge of the latest movie news anymore. Hence, the wikibreak's probably a bit more than it appears to be. Watching the retarded situation at ''300'' isn't helping much, either -- reminds me why I don't dabble in potentially controversial articles. I'm home for spring break, doing stuff other than Misplaced Pages when I can, but I just felt the need to interject here and there. That'll go away soon enough, maybe. —] (] • ] • ]) - 17:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :It's not just the controversy stuff anymore. I guess I feel the need to focus on activities that are of more immediate concern -- college, social life, internships, etc. I'm exploring the possibility of an internship with Merck, IBM, GAO, possibly even Google. I just find myself getting caught up with the nonsensical duties of Misplaced Pages whenever I add content; leads to cleaning up someone's trail of linkspam, or dealing with some BS that someone's spewing on the talk page. I just got home from Baltimore, the residence of my female company. Things have changed, not exactly for the better, but not for the worse. I'm going to Chicago tomorrow for a retreat and to celebrate St. Patty's Day there, so I'll continue to be AWOL. I'll figure out what I want to do, being an editor for Misplaced Pages. Might cut down on my watchlist further to exclude some film articles; in retrospect, I probably should never have paid any attention to ''Ghost Rider''. Need to get my head out of the "keep ''all'' superhero films updated" mindset, and just work on stuff that really would interest me, like the Spidey and Bats films. I imagine that when/if I return to my editing duties, I'll probably be using my Google Alerts and such to overhaul an article in one sitting, rather than constantly dabbing daily, which leads to even more dabbing. Hell, when I really get a break from the stuff in my life, I'll make ''Fight Club'' glorious on Misplaced Pages. —] (] • ] • ]) - 18:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Rocky == | |||
| Look, I recently read an article that stated that the first Rocky film was investigated at the time of it's release by the police for it's portrayal of all black characters as violent, monosylabic thugs, and of Rocky Balboa himself being portrayed as the white race's hope for a black-free society - so whilst I apologise for not taking into account the neutrality of my edit, and the fact that my references were not stated, I would like to add that I do not appreciate being insulted by you calling my work "nonsense". I have not done this to you even though I am in a position to do so, and as such would have appreciated a simple caution. Thank you. {{unsigned|Donorman}} | |||
| :Am I right in suggesting you are American? If so, I would like to state that, as a British law student, I am in full knowledge of the ins and outs of British law. Contrary to what you might think, it IS illegal to be racist, and any KKK meetings that have ever been discovered by uncorrupt American police forces have been disbanded and, if possible, charges have been given. In fact, only last December the KKK announced plans for a radio station, which was subsequently shut down within 24 hours. Racism results in a deprivement of human rights, and is as such treated VERY seriously by most Western authorities. I would like to enquire exactly how you can make such outlandish and blatantly untrue statements and still criticise me for spreading nonsense. Again, I am sorry for any confusion and vandalism I may have caused, but I am personally startled by the actions of a so-called Misplaced Pages "superior". Thank you for your time. | |||
| Ok Bignole, I'm playing it your way. I would like to have an answer please. Come on, you're a grown man I'm sure you can take a little criticism! | |||
| I would like to state that the edits to your user page, although done in my name, are not attributible to me. I appreciate how it looks, but they were done by a friend that took a much more immature attitude than I when I revealed your comments to her. | |||
| Ooooooh, we're getting personal now, aren't we? The reason I used your user page to contact you was not that I lacked the intelligence to follow instructions, more that I felt it would irritate you more if I did so. I didn't realise you knew so much about law! It's funny that you seem to be so pre-occupied with proving me wrong when I have already apologised for any inflammatory comments I made, leaving me to think that you are, yourself, racist. As I stated earlier (admittedly on your user page, not this allocated spot), Rocky was investigated because of allegations by black audiences that the movie seemingly personified blacks as VICIOUS, MONOSYLLABIC THUGS. I think this is mentioned in an Eddie Murphy stand-up, but I'll leave that for you to find out, shall I? | |||
| Ok I'm sorry, but I wanted to draw your attention to my comment. You question my intelligence, my motives and even my IDENTITY, and won't even comment why? Like I said, you're a grown man. | |||
| Listen, I'm not entirely sure what your problem is with me, and why you feel threatened. At base level, this is merely a disagreement. You can think whatever you want, but since we began corresponding I have consulted relevant documemnts regarding Misplaced Pages. it seems that you have taken offence at my actions, not because of what I said, but because it inteferes with other's quest for information. it would seem I underestimated what Misplaced Pages was. Being a new user, I was told by friends that it was a sort of information superhighway, a kind of condensed version of the internet, in which anyone can add comments or articles as they pleased. While this is to some extent the case, it would seem that I misjudged what my actions entailed, and for that i apologise profusely. However, your actions seem to me to be over the top. While I fully appreciate your position, it bewilders me how someone in your position can assume so much about me without even knowing my first name. As I said previously, any particularly offensive comments were left by my girlfriend. | |||
| Hey, let's be friends man! No need to be so upright! I'm not going to take offence at everything you say except when I've got my arguing head on! I think we both need to just chill! {{unsigned|Donorman}} | |||
| Think I'll give that a miss. I've got enough work as it is. Doubt we'll talk again, but I'll leave you with a reminder. | |||
| I know. I was attempting to be the carrot to your stick, but apparently it doesn't work on the purposely blind. Cie la vie. ] 14:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Beginning? I knew right off the bat. Something I learned at Camp Peary was that people will hyper-indicate to the public that trait which they feel most lacking in themselves. There are lots of people like that here in WP. Myself, I try to come across as an unfogiving bastard who would sooner shoot you as revert your edits. However, at heart, I am just a sweet ol' teddy bear. Just ask Viriditas. ;) ] 14:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::He wasn't, as his grammar was pointedly American English. Look back over his edit history; he worked on an article about English Law, which is probably the inspiration for the fabrication. ] 14:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ask Alex to chip in - he kinda owes us a look at a 3RR violation. ] 14:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Please don't feed the trolls == | |||
| Please don't engage ] in dialogue since this only encourages their activities. This is referred to as ]. It is best to use the ]. | |||
| Trolls tend to die of boredom, so giving them the standardised warning messages robs them of their need for attention and they go away sooner to plague chatrooms and forums where their needs are more easily met. Thanks ] 14:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==300 Images== | |||
| Maria found this page with side-by-side comparisons of images from the movie and the GN . They are too cool for words, and they would certainly put a cork in the whole argument about the accuracy of the film argument while being properly placed in the production area. You're the Fair Use man, so what do you think? | |||
| I also think we need a shot of Theron and Gorgo, since that is a subplot of the movie only, and not in the GN.] 19:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Hey, check out the licensing on the images. I think I did it right, butI was using the Force a bit. The comparison pic was tricky, as I think it should have additional licensing (comic book panels). ] 20:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| When I was addingthe image, it was one of the licensing choices, amongst the movie screenshot, and so forth. ] 20:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| It loooks to have already been . ] 21:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| By you. :) Thanks. This is my first successful image upload to an article. Yay! :D ] 21:20, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I don't think I am understanding what you mean, Big. I am leavingthe office, and will check in a bit later. ] 21:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| The Fine Gentleman is now frustrated over the inclusion of citation being added to the Depiction of Iranians section. He posted his reasoning for removing it in the Dicsussion section before removing his post. I would be, too - MEMRII goes off on a rant about how the Zionists and American extremists, blah blah blah. I didn't really want it in the article in the first place, but hey, noteworthy is noteworthy, as ] said in defense of its inclusion. I had reverted it back into the article. Just wanted you to be kept abreast of events in fairly real time. ] 21:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Thought I'd let you know that at least of our favoirite POV pushers are working together to remove it. I am out of my RDA of reverts today. Maybe you could address ? ] 22:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Fair enough. I thought the mad removals were just a symptom of the 'oops, that doesn't really fit the oh-pity-us-poor-denigrated-Persians' viewpoint the POV pushers have been staking out.' ] 22:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks. This sort of thing is why I stopped the back and forth and continued onward. I think I should hold off on even basic edits of the article until tomorrow. I wish admins would know the definitions of edits and what reverts are...] 01:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Fight Club == | |||
| Why would the philosophical nature of a film make it a comedy drama? I don't really see the connection here. I don't know whether the actors/director say that the film is a black comedy, but to include that category (or any category, for that matter) we have to mention that in the article itself, which is not the case at the moment. --]|] 17:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Ah, I just noticed the ] of the article. With ] in the article, I'm perfectly fine with the black comedy category. I'd still oppose the comedy drama category tho. --]|] 17:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Jurassic Park GA pass == | |||
| '']'' has passed GA. So do you have any comments to make before I nominate for FA. I got a copy of the making of book that doesn't have pages torn out. | |||
| Also, do you want to have a look at '']'''s plot summary? I think it's as simple as possible but any more suggestions? ] 15:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==New Profile Look== | |||
| I can take precisely 3% of the claim (although historically, it's 90% accurate, and completely Persian free since 2007!), as I stole it utterly from User:CnadianCaesar. Most of it is cut and paste, which is going to force me to learn more html - my ulterior goal there. I chose it from a pool of different looks, finalists being ] and the ascetic lines of ]. It was something of a close thing, but my gf thought I was too quirky for the latter. <br> | |||
| Dr. Pepper it is, then. I myself prefer an admixture of Mountain Dew, Red Bull and unadulterated cocaine (...okay, maybe not that last ingredient). ] 17:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Unadulterated as in "not stepped on" or cut with other materials. However, I was just joking, I would never touch the stuff. Dew, chocolate and sweet sweet lovin' are my drugs of choice. | |||
| :Heroin is out as well; it might be the choise of authors, but you may have noticed that those using are all dead. I'm not afraid of dying - I'm afraid of dying leaving unfinished matters. :) ] 18:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :ps-I was prompted to change the user page from wiki-email I rec'd from Benham, warning me about some of the creepiness of the messages he had gotten from the more POV editors. As I don't want the guy whose picture I was using on my page to end up with a gun in his face or a knife in his back, I figured it was high time for a change. ] 18:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, and that's what makes me proud of the book of poetry. I got paid for it, and didn't have to die or end up in an institution or broken marriage to do it. Yay for me! ] 18:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yeah. Poe was an editor too. However he was paid. How lame does that make us?. lol! ] 23:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| What sorts of things did you notice about the Greeks? I think we are seeing more in the way of outcry because of the differences in psychological makeup between the two peoples. There is less at stake for the Greek ego, as they are part of a community that provides more in the way of worldliness; they aren't as easily manipulated. | |||
| Frankly, I am surprised more gay folk aren't weighing in on this movie. ] 12:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I see your point. Usually, an accusation of eugenics - even as primitively practiced by the Spartans - is enough on its face to start an all out brawl. Again, it comes back to the victim mentality seen by the descendants of great empires and the like (Spain and Portugal are always excepted from this rule, for some reason). The Greeks have had time to deal with it; the Persians/Iranians haven't. Whether its bc they don't have cable or dissent in that particular country just hasn't been fostered, I don't know. ] 13:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| So, what's your take on the Essjay thing? ] 22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Agreed, I wouldn't have cared an iota, until he started using the fake cred as a stick instead of a shield. Wales appears to have cocked it up a bit, but I guess that's why they put erasers on every pencil made. ] 22:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Back from break... sorta == | |||
| I'm back at school now. Been doing some thinking about how I want to get back to editing. I don't want to be accessing Misplaced Pages every time I get on the Internet, which I was doing for a while. (I still tend to do that, but I just passively look to see what is happening with the film articles.) I'm thinking that I'll only use Misplaced Pages a few times a week, mostly to expand articles. Probably won't be around enough to patrol for vandalism, which eventually gets cleaned up by one of us or someone else anyway. I will probably trim my watchlist some more -- won't bother watching stuff like ''Ghost Rider'' or ''Rise of the Silver Surfer''. I have a serious backlog of movie news with news headlines (via Google Alerts) and RSS feeds. I figure that when I get the time, I'll sit and update each film article one at a time. Misplaced Pages is really secondary right now in the scheme of things. I agree with what you said a while ago about the tendency to think about how I'd have to deal with bad edits when I check my watchlist. Hell, I've had a dream or two about edit warring -- perhaps that's a bad sign! I'll continue lurking minimally (I hope), and I figure this weekend, I'll update what I can. —] (] • ] • ]) - 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==300: the Ultimate Synopsis== | |||
| Shortening it as much as possible: | |||
| ::"The Persians invaded Greece, and Spartans died slowing then down." | |||
| What is that, nine words? lol ] 16:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :LOL! And for Depictions of Persians, I would just merge that and Political AQspects into a new header: Political Persians: | |||
| ::"Persia was made to look ugly, and Persians got their country to be angry at a comic book adaptation." | |||
| -:) ] 16:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Thanks== | |||
| Hi!, thanks for tell me about fan made posters. I should put ''real'' posters on wikipedia, in Saw IV there's a fan made poster (I think), now I will try to find a real one. | |||
| User: Emiliano s | |||
| == spider-trailer == | |||
| That rewording sounds better, but I think you're right, that it's still n ot the best... "It was first released in front of 300" might work, as that implies it's since been released in other ways... maybe? ] 20:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Don't think so, but it's on the website now, which is another form of release. and I think it's on TV too, isn't it? or at least, scenes from that trailer are... right? ] 20:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Pirates of the Caribbean 3 == | |||
| So Bignole, do you feel a slight tingling sensation for the trailer? I've got major expectations within the next several hours, during which I'll be asleep, and dread considering what some people will do to the article. I wish you good luck. ] 21:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| When I woke up this morning I found the article to be in quite a state. Still that trailer really makes me want to make the article the GA of the ''Pirates of the Caribbean'' series. ] 20:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| ''...a wall sculture is not easily compared to a film portrayal..'' -- is how you described your removal of the piece I had added. | |||
| Now, if there were cameras around 465 B.C., I'm sure I wouldn't have used relief on a wall as physical description of ]. | |||
| I have noticed you guys are trying to fend off vandals, which is a very good thing. But with all due respect, treating an example frame '''(plus the text piece)''' which harmlessly (but accurately) shows historical innacuracy, as a rougue piece of work was OUT OF ORDER. I had followed standard procedure to try and describe a historical inaccuracy when it comes to physical description of a historic figure, in this case, a King. | |||
| Your justification to remove my piece is not valid. So (as this is a public domain) please provide a reasonable and valid argument as to why my piece should not be a part of the ] section ASAP. Many thanks -- ] 22:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::''Because, exactly as you said, there were NO cameras back then. Comparing a film character to a wall sculpture of a person that we cannot even verify if it's the way he looked is hardly notable. We have written testimony about what Xerxes looked liked, but you cannot encyclopedically compare a live action person with wall art. Maybe, if it was a true painting, but even so the film is not based on history, it's based on a comic book. That is why we have a comparison with the comicbook, because that is what it get's its information from, not history. Now, the comic gets it from history, but vaguely. It is not appropriate, nor would it pass fair use to compare film Xerxes to wall art Xerxes, especially wall art where you cannot really see the man (it's a side profile, where you cannot distinguish beard from robe. ....'' -- That's actually a very fair statement. I lose this one ''(sobbing!)''. Thanks for the quick reply dude! -- ] 23:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Category booboo == | |||
| Ooops...didn't even think about that, thanks for catching it. ] ] 03:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Not a problem. :) Happy editing, <font color="#0000FF">]</font> 03:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==300 Diff comparisons== | |||
| Am I doing that the right way? I hadn't done it before, and don't know if it is acceptable or not. I fugured showing the examples was a lot easier than trying to explain it for a page and a day. -] 17:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Smallville== | |||
| Thanks for catching my errors. I is uzhooly a gud spellur, but am bizzy werking in bizarro world company. i is very happy to am be here. :P ] 19:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Fight Club revisited == | |||
| I'm trying to perceive how to bring together all the passages in Themes together. Do you have any ideas? I'd like to avoid subsections if I can. This is my thinking right now -- to explain briefly the purpose of the film -- darkly satirical, exploratory of themes, etc. Then I'll describe the narrator, being an ] and an ], then I'll describe Durden as his opposite. I'm not sure how to do this, though -- it's very obvious in the film, but to point that out myself seems like original research. Maybe one of the citations have something; I just pretty much accepted the doppelganger nature as the truth. So after the narrator and Durden, I'll bring Marla in, then get into relationships between all three of them. Not sure how to include the overall theme of self-identity and violence as a metaphor, though? Any ideas? —] (] • ] • ]) - 20:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Tables being frowned upon == | |||
| What are you referencing when you say "See Featured Articles, tables are frowned upon" . A direct link would be great. ] 20:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == X-Men articles == | |||
| You wouldn't mind going down to '']'' and '']'' articles and gutting the plots for me? Thanks, as usual good writing is getting in the way for me to use my summarising skills. ] 20:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Good luck with the exam. I myself have a couple of pieces of coursework right now. I do find it comfy though doing in front of the computer. ] 21:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Please do not remove his cited height and weight. It is considered ]. ] 21:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Please see: and and do not remove his height and weight any more. ] 11:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I gave you two links. I don't know why you always remove his height and weight. I don't want to start an editwar with you but you can seek an admin, if you want. ] 12:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Beside this, I appreciate if you were a little bit friendlier to me! ] 12:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::OK, I added these two links to the discussion page of ]. Let's see if other users will agree. Well...in that case, I won't add his height and weight any more and I'll concentrate on other articles, Cheers. ] 12:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::On my way. I'll read up on the MOS beforehand. | |||
| :::::On a side note, could you take a quick look ? He seems like a good kid trying to put together the article pretty much by himself, and is spending all of his time reverting vandalism instead of fixing yp the article after vandals trash it. He needs an admin to semiprotect the page. Aside from Alex (who always seems busy), I don't really know any. Could you recommend one or two to him? | |||
| -] 17:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==smallville tv series== | |||
| Why did you take out the link i added??? Its a well researched and informative web site!!!!--] 06:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Thet list of dem dere Smallville eppysodes as shore purty, with alla dem cullures and wotnot. ;) -] 17:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :It looks good to me. I don't have a problem with the colors. I was wondering, though, what is the significance of the production codes? Not sure if it borders on "indiscriminate" information. Also, can it be made clearer what # (in the first column) is, such as "Episode #"? I figured out what it meant, but I think it could be made more immediately clear. Other than that, I don't see any other issues with the list. —] (] • ] • ]) - 02:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::There's a ] article; any way that can be worked into the list? Not sure if I'd go so far to wiki-link Code at each table, but just wondering if there can be a very brief mention somewhere. Let me know when you nominate the list, I'll add my $0.02 to it. What do you think of ''Fight Club'' so far? Still gotta bring in Themes, obviously, but any thoughts on the structure or placement of content would be appreciated, as well as anything you think could be explored further. For instance, I'm going to do some research about the film's music (I noticed the Radiohead bit you put on my subpage's talk), just to find out why the Dust Brothers were picked, and why "Where is My Mind?" was chosen for the end song. —] (] • ] • ]) - 02:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Two more things after a second look: Is it necessary to have ]? It seems wholly unrelated to the TV show. Also, you said you looked at the DVD sets for your information. Is it possible to cite these as well, so there's no discrepancy if someone tries to alter something down the run? —] (] • ] • ]) - 02:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| If you look at the diff, it doesn't add excessive detail. It does however add detail necessary to cover and connect the gaps in the core plot, and is well within usual level of detail for a film article plot section. | |||
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| As a result of your revert, the plot as you have left it, does not actually explain the plot to a reader, which is what such article sections are usually intended to do. In addition, blanket reverts such as this are usually a poor idea as (removing all suggested edits) they often suggest that blanket reversion has been done in place of review and consideration. | |||
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| : Thanks for the note. I wonder if you could re-read the again. There are some significant plot jumps in the original. I take your point on what is and isn't excessive detail, but don't agree a 100% blanket revert was the best way to proceed. To take one example, it seems odd that the nature of torture ("Le Chiffre tortures Bond by repeatedly striking his testicles with a knotted rope") is important, but the abrupt and unexplained switch of narrative to the Bahamas, the significance of the short selling (that it was illicit gambling with clients money, which isnt explained), the misinformation that ''"Mathis, whom Le Chiffre suggested was a double agent..."'' (in fact Bond himself realises this from information gained, it was not "suggested" by Le Chiffre)... all these are not significant. | |||
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| : I acknowledge your point it's been trimmed down before "some months back" probably after some debate. But most of the additions in that diff had value to someone seeking to understand the film narrative from its article. Please review the diff and discuss. Thanks. ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] | ])</span></sup> 12:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I've never really figured out when an article should exist for a future film. I've played both sides, but I've never been certain at what point it would be acceptable to permit a film article. I mean, ''Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'' is highly likely to be made, but I couldn't quite say the same for something like ''Beverly Hills IV''. ''Spider-Man 4'' would somewhat fall in between, since the contracts are up for the actors. Any idea on what would be good rules of thumb to consider for these things? —] (] • ] • ]) - 00:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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