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== November music ==
== Question about 15.ai AfD ==

I'm not sure if I'm correctly following the recent discussion, but did I do something wrong? I tried to avoid ] the discussion but I might have gotten too carried away. Is there any chance that the AfD will be speedily deleted? ] (]) 04:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

:Each individual post of yours is defensible but the total number of edits has been a lot. Obviously not so much I've yet said anything, but you're playing with fire each time you past. As for deletion it's possible some admin could come and close it as speedy deletion but I think that's unlikely at this time both because it's unlikely an admin will notice it and because even if they do, they would have to explain how it met the criteria. ] (]) 04:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::But most of my edits are me just editing my own messages in quick succession right after I submitted one… I don't think I made 52 separate comments as BusterD said. I want to respond to their comment because I want to defend myself but I don't know if I should. ] (]) 10:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:::You have painted yourself into this corner, GregariousMadness. It is your behavior, not content of those individual edits, which has made such an impression on me. On Misplaced Pages, it's usually better to make your point with sources, not argumentation. It's a forgivable newbie error. What I said at the AfD is what I believe any closer might say when they come to this discussion. Remember I started this process neutrally, disinterested in the outcome, as an admin should be. But as page creator, I'm a page watcher as well. I have a wide difference of views from many of the !voters, but I have largely sat quiet. Your behaviors in this process wouldn't reflect well on any participant. ''That you can't see that'' is precisely the handicap under which you're laboring. ] (]) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::::{{tq|On Misplaced Pages, it's usually better to make your point with sources, not argumentation.}} I'm really confused by what I did wrong because I thought all of my arguments were based on sources I was finding. I have 17 comments in the AfD total right now. I tried being cautious so as not to bludgeon and I was told that commenting new sources as a new comment would not be counted as a bludgeon, which was why I was happy to make my point there. I'm asking you, as a veteran editor, how I can improve going forward, and explicitly pointing out where I went wrong would be very helpful to me. But right now, I am just too scared to say anything in the AfD. ] (]) 11:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] I count about 90 replies. You having about 1/5 of all replies is an issue. Your ] is even more disproportionate - coming in at 1/3 (the # of edits you've made is even more disproportionate but that reflects your habit of making tweaks to edits you've made as much as anything). My recommendation going forward is not to post. And where you feel you must do it on the talk page. I'm really trying to give you leeway - I'm here to create not delete stuff and so letting the best case possible be put forward for a marginal topic is something I value - but you're basically out of that leeway and if you can't show good judgement about when to post I will force the issue through a partial block. ] (]) 00:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::I'm really sorry. I'll stop posting, but again I don't think I have 90 replies. I counted them one by one, and the reason my reply count seems so big is because I have a habit of making trivial edits after I've made a post. ] (]) 00:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::There are ~90 total replies so your 17 is about 20% of the total replies. As noted here and at the AfD by bytes you have a higher proportion. ] (]) 05:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::And as for the last reply, I did it because I originally brought to topic to HyperAccelerated's talk page, but they told me to continue the conversation in the AfD instead. ] (]) 00:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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] is my ]. -- ] (]) 21:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC) Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). -- ] (]) 16:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


I added some images from ]. --] (]) 21:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC) Now: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


I managed a few more pics and the first precious ;) - If you have a few seconds please look into the ''Sacrifice'' trailer, see her speak ... --] (]) 17:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
... and some more. ] is about my song of defiance, - it was a great pleasure to hear it performed today! The line "Ich steh hier und singe" (]) is in the movement ], which begins with "Trotz -- Trotz -- Trotz", sounding much tougher than "defiance" ;) - in it's at 4:55. --] (]) 23:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)


Performers of the ] now pictured on my talk. - I proudly remember having sung in an oratorio premiere seven years ago ]. --] (]) 16:18, 6 November 2023 (UTC) My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Great collaboration, Storye book found the pic, MONTENSEM wrote the lead after adding detail, and I feel you know a lot about the person after reading just that. (No discussion about an infobox, as for an estimated 95% of composers' articles. They have become normal, ], did you know?) --] (]) 09:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


Today I have ], almost too much of a good thing! Bach's ] with the unusual scale, first performed 300 years ago OTD, the ], and Schumann's ] for Clara. Also first day of vacation pics uploaded. - On AN, was I clear enough? --] (]) 17:55, 7 November 2023 (UTC) Today we have the next composer of the kind, mentioned ] with two others. When I saw the TFP of ], however, I was inclined to help him to more accessibily but dropped it when I looked at the article history. I try to avoid conflict. I only step in when someone ''new'' to the strangest "contentious topic" I have encountered on WP gets treated as a warrior. I wonder what could stop that, - assuming good faith should be the first approach, no? --] (]) 14:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)


], which stands for sharing. Sharing one more day of vacation ;) --] (]) 22:44, 11 November 2023 (UTC) :Good faith is so often the key to avoiding and diffusing conflict. But it's understandable why in moments it doesn't happen. Best, ] (]) 15:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)


=== Precious anniversary ===
:Enjoy your last day! Best, ] (]) 14:58, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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:: Sorry, I wasn't clear, I'm back for over a week, but uploading is slow, one reason people keep dying whose articles need work (one of them from stub to GAN), the other the continued waste of time of certain "discussions", Feydeau to AN (was I clear enough?), Rossini with the latest weapon: that a link from a composer's bio to his list of works somehow violates policy, - I mean, how kafkaesque can one get? - But today is Sunday, mushrooms found and eaten, pics to come, just slowly. Three of those who died on the Main page ] (just not all at the same time). --] (]) 15:43, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
:: I began another day of vacation pics, with the deepest blue of the sea ;) - ] the birthday of a friend who wrote quite a book about the compositions of a man who will turn 300 soon. --] (]) 15:08, 14 November 2023 (UTC) --] (]) 08:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


:I've mentioned this before but precious was hugely important to me as an editor and as part of this community. I appreciate the work you do in giving it out (and commemorating it). Best, ] (]) 15:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
==AN==
:: Thank you! I love to do it. While I slowed down in giving, the daily routine of remembering things to be thankful for is an uplifting exercise ;) - Today, my first objective was to upgrade ] that I brought to the Main page (in poor shape, but I was too tired yesterday), - it's nominated for GA now. My story today. I'll make a story for ], although my first article this year is already off the Main page. - The second was to help finding a FA suitable for TFA on IWD. The third will be to turn to today's article, another recent death. Then a round of telling others the same things, and then I'll probably be too tired to give the first precious of the year. --] (]) 17:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi Barkeep, Just a quick note about the on the AN discussion. Sorry to have reverted you, but I think that if thread had been set up like that in the beginning it may have been OK, but it was already quite involved by the time of your split.{{pb}}I'm never convinced about such splits (similar to those at ArbCom): being pigeon-holed as being from "position" will taint responses away from what is said to who has said it, which isn't the best way. If you want to change it back to the split, feel free: I won't complain about it! Cheers - ] (]) 23:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Well there is no deadline for telling someone they're precious, but it certainly remains appreciated by me and a highlight of my wiki creer. That other stuff is good too - all . On a different note I've read through the Rimsky-Korsakov RfC and am considering doing a close (if I do I'll need to read it through at least once more entirely). Best, ] (]) 23:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: Well, I don't care how that will be closed, seriously. --] (]) 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: The choreographer is my story today, although her all-too-brief on the Main page was on 5 January. Her work mentioned is based on ]. I wonder if you are aware that one of the key debates of the infoboxes arbcase is now in ] (there were two earlier), - for background or entertainment, as you like it. It contains the key argument against an infobox (at least as I see it): "Please let's not add another eyesore to another beautifully crafted article." - I think the discussion remained civil, btw. --] (]) 12:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== Summary of off-wiki feedback given to me and reflections on the process overall ==
:@] thanks for this message. Given the discussion that has now subsequently happened I don't think it's possible to reinstate. While we're here, I do feel a need to tell you that if I'd had more time to defend the action I would have logged a warning against you and another editor in that discussion for disrupting the RfC a couple weeks ago. Seeing you and a different editor post a huge string of replies at the start of this appeal thread was a major reason for my attempted restructuring. I'd ask that you really think about the impact your contributions are having on infobox discussions and to self-moderate. ] (]) 00:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::I do try and self moderate, but when multiple editors breach any known of form personal attack (c.f. “pathological", "your obsessiveness here is pathological and disruptive" and "SchroCat is acting obsessive, hypocritical, and disruptive"), I seriously wonder why I fucking bother. If I’d have come out with just one of those, I’d have been blocked in a heartbeat. But two editors are responsible for those comments (they are the two who have commented as much as me on the RFC), and yet no-one struck those comments as being personal attacks and no-one warned those two editors about their behaviour and they carry on regardless. It’s like ] never happened - and makes being brought to ANI for '''not''' insulting someone even more bizarre. The current IB pushers are more aggressive and more disruptive than at any time in the past, and there is no administrator protection against their aggressive baiting, lies and disruptive behaviour. WP is going to lose good editors again because of a vocal and activist group, and the pot stirring will weaken the encyclopaedia more than it has done before. - ] (]) 00:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:Re {{tqq|if thread had been set up like that in the beginning it may have been OK}}, the thread ], but it was ]. ] (]) 23:35, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::Huh. Look at that. ] (]) 00:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
::: If moving my entire '''Queries''' section into its own section below the Close-or-not discussion will help, please feel free to refactor on my behalf ... I'm reluctant to mess with it myself, but won't care if someone else wants to. ] (]) 00:49, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:::{{u|Levivich}}, Apologies - I didn't get any edit conflict notification when I saved my comment, so apologies for over-writing it. - ] (]) 18:42, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


In the interests of transparency, I will say that I received several substantive pieces of feedback offwiki.
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*Continue doing: this feedback pretty closely matched the feedback offered on wiki. If someone's really interested I'll go into details but it feels ridiculous to summarize this publicly.
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*Start/stop: There was a theme among some that I am, at times, more abrupt/curt/hard line/cutting in my off-wiki communications than I am on-wiki. This is summarizing feedback by three different people which was offered in quite some depth (which I appreciate).
*:For the feedback which came more from my work on arbcom, I certainly can understand where the feedback came from but I'm not so convinced that I should do anything differently were I to be on arbcom again. For the feedback which came from people's personal encounters I've given it a lot more thought and it is something I'm going to try and act differently with. The people who gave me feedback are all people who I am friendly with and who also had nice things to say but the question for me is whether there are others who felt impacted but didn't feel comfortable giving feedback. In the specific instances given as examples (which applies more to the abrupt/curt/cutting) I certainly knew that I was writing in a different tone than how I'd have said something on wiki. Some of that is because off-wiki is more casual, some of it is because I didn't invest the same amount of time I would have on wiki. Knowing the impact it had means I'm going to approach such situations at least more carefully and perhaps all together different.


Overall I'd say this was a successful process. I got positive affirmation and some meaningful feedback about things I might want to do differently. I would definitely encourage other admins to consider. Best, ] (]) 17:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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I just added something to the talk page of Cuba/Israel relations, and followed the link to my IP account. It shows some edits that I didn't make, and the claim that I am blocked by a user called Lourdes. I went to their page to try to ask why this IP was blocked, and what that means, but it said that you blocked them. What on earth is going on? ] (]) 05:20, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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Question about 15.ai AfD

I'm not sure if I'm correctly following the recent discussion, but did I do something wrong? I tried to avoid WP:BLUDGEONING the discussion but I might have gotten too carried away. Is there any chance that the AfD will be speedily deleted? GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 04:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Each individual post of yours is defensible but the total number of edits has been a lot. Obviously not so much I've yet said anything, but you're playing with fire each time you past. As for deletion it's possible some admin could come and close it as speedy deletion but I think that's unlikely at this time both because it's unlikely an admin will notice it and because even if they do, they would have to explain how it met the criteria. Barkeep49 (talk) 04:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
But most of my edits are me just editing my own messages in quick succession right after I submitted one… I don't think I made 52 separate comments as BusterD said. I want to respond to their comment because I want to defend myself but I don't know if I should. GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 10:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
You have painted yourself into this corner, GregariousMadness. It is your behavior, not content of those individual edits, which has made such an impression on me. On Misplaced Pages, it's usually better to make your point with sources, not argumentation. It's a forgivable newbie error. What I said at the AfD is what I believe any closer might say when they come to this discussion. Remember I started this process neutrally, disinterested in the outcome, as an admin should be. But as page creator, I'm a page watcher as well. I have a wide difference of views from many of the !voters, but I have largely sat quiet. Your behaviors in this process wouldn't reflect well on any participant. That you can't see that is precisely the handicap under which you're laboring. BusterD (talk) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
On Misplaced Pages, it's usually better to make your point with sources, not argumentation. I'm really confused by what I did wrong because I thought all of my arguments were based on sources I was finding. I have 17 comments in the AfD total right now. I tried being cautious so as not to bludgeon and I was told that commenting new sources as a new comment would not be counted as a bludgeon, which was why I was happy to make my point there. I'm asking you, as a veteran editor, how I can improve going forward, and explicitly pointing out where I went wrong would be very helpful to me. But right now, I am just too scared to say anything in the AfD. GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 11:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
@GregariousMadness I count about 90 replies. You having about 1/5 of all replies is an issue. Your % of bytes is even more disproportionate - coming in at 1/3 (the # of edits you've made is even more disproportionate but that reflects your habit of making tweaks to edits you've made as much as anything). My recommendation going forward is not to post. And where you feel you must do it on the talk page. I'm really trying to give you leeway - I'm here to create not delete stuff and so letting the best case possible be put forward for a marginal topic is something I value - but you're basically out of that leeway and if you can't show good judgement about when to post I will force the issue through a partial block. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm really sorry. I'll stop posting, but again I don't think I have 90 replies. I counted them one by one, and the reason my reply count seems so big is because I have a habit of making trivial edits after I've made a post. GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 00:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
There are ~90 total replies so your 17 is about 20% of the total replies. As noted here and at the AfD by bytes you have a higher proportion. Barkeep49 (talk) 05:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
And as for the last reply, I did it because I originally brought to topic to HyperAccelerated's talk page, but they told me to continue the conversation in the AfD instead. GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 00:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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January music

story · music · places

Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Now: Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I managed a few more pics and the first precious ;) - If you have a few seconds please look into the Sacrifice trailer, see her speak ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Great collaboration, Storye book found the pic, MONTENSEM wrote the lead after adding detail, and I feel you know a lot about the person after reading just that. (No discussion about an infobox, as for an estimated 95% of composers' articles. They have become normal, project opera removed the "no infobox" recommendation from its style guide in 2019, did you know?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Today we have the next composer of the kind, mentioned in my story with two others. When I saw the TFP of Mr. Balfe, however, I was inclined to help him to more accessibily but dropped it when I looked at the article history. I try to avoid conflict. I only step in when someone new to the strangest "contentious topic" I have encountered on WP gets treated as a warrior. I wonder what could stop that, - assuming good faith should be the first approach, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Good faith is so often the key to avoiding and diffusing conflict. But it's understandable why in moments it doesn't happen. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I've mentioned this before but precious was hugely important to me as an editor and as part of this community. I appreciate the work you do in giving it out (and commemorating it). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! I love to do it. While I slowed down in giving, the daily routine of remembering things to be thankful for is an uplifting exercise ;) - Today, my first objective was to upgrade an article that I brought to the Main page (in poor shape, but I was too tired yesterday), - it's nominated for GA now. My story today. I'll make a story for Dada Masilo, although my first article this year is already off the Main page. - The second was to help finding a FA suitable for TFA on IWD. The third will be to turn to today's article, another recent death. Then a round of telling others the same things, and then I'll probably be too tired to give the first precious of the year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Well there is no deadline for telling someone they're precious, but it certainly remains appreciated by me and a highlight of my wiki creer. That other stuff is good too - all . On a different note I've read through the Rimsky-Korsakov RfC and am considering doing a close (if I do I'll need to read it through at least once more entirely). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Well, I don't care how that will be closed, seriously. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The choreographer is my story today, although her all-too-brief on the Main page was on 5 January. Her work mentioned is based on The Rite of Spring. I wonder if you are aware that one of the key debates of the infoboxes arbcase is now in Talk:The Rite of Spring/Archive 3 (there were two earlier), - for background or entertainment, as you like it. It contains the key argument against an infobox (at least as I see it): "Please let's not add another eyesore to another beautifully crafted article." - I think the discussion remained civil, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Summary of off-wiki feedback given to me and reflections on the process overall

In the interests of transparency, I will say that I received several substantive pieces of feedback offwiki.

  • Continue doing: this feedback pretty closely matched the feedback offered on wiki. If someone's really interested I'll go into details but it feels ridiculous to summarize this publicly.
  • Start/stop: There was a theme among some that I am, at times, more abrupt/curt/hard line/cutting in my off-wiki communications than I am on-wiki. This is summarizing feedback by three different people which was offered in quite some depth (which I appreciate).
    For the feedback which came more from my work on arbcom, I certainly can understand where the feedback came from but I'm not so convinced that I should do anything differently were I to be on arbcom again. For the feedback which came from people's personal encounters I've given it a lot more thought and it is something I'm going to try and act differently with. The people who gave me feedback are all people who I am friendly with and who also had nice things to say but the question for me is whether there are others who felt impacted but didn't feel comfortable giving feedback. In the specific instances given as examples (which applies more to the abrupt/curt/cutting) I certainly knew that I was writing in a different tone than how I'd have said something on wiki. Some of that is because off-wiki is more casual, some of it is because I didn't invest the same amount of time I would have on wiki. Knowing the impact it had means I'm going to approach such situations at least more carefully and perhaps all together different.

Overall I'd say this was a successful process. I got positive affirmation and some meaningful feedback about things I might want to do differently. I would definitely encourage other admins to consider. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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