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:Hello GalliumBot, These picture have been for more that 15 years maybe. Few were added recently. Should I create a new heading with Education, Lectures and Visits in Pictures. I will appreciate guidance. Thanks ] (]) 00:21, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hey there. Just wanted to open up a discussion section to avoid removing good work without instead fixing it. I disagree that each of the notes needs to be cited, as they are each discussed and cited later in the article. ] (]) 19:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


I see that on 24th August 2022 you edited the ''influences'' parameter for ]. I don't suppose they bothered to tell you, but as part of a massive purge involving at least 3000 articles the ''influences'' and ''influenced'' parameters were removed by PrimeBot in the last few days. If you have any thoughts about this there is a discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/Template_talk:Infobox_scientist#Influences/influenced_--_abuse_of_power ] (]) 12:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
:@] The problem is that the notes use Misplaced Pages articles as a source, which is prohibited per ]. ] (]) 19:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


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:: Thanks @]. Notes are not meant to be sources, but instead meant to provide elaborations. As in the article, if someone wants an elaboration on ie 'literary arts', the note provides them an explanation and the page to see. Not sure there's any better way to do this. ] (]) 20:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
:::@] If I might comment on this, it also abridges ]. Like an academic paper, it makes a value judgement based on the importance of a subject (i.e., see, for example, ). That "for example" is ascribing weight to a subject in relation without a source – who decides what to see for an example? This is quite subtle original research, but original research nonetheless and due to be removed. ] (]) 18:52, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
:::: Thanks @]. I'm still not sure we're on the same page, though. Everything on Misplaced Pages has been written by editors who have individual skews and have taken thousands of points of information and prioritised those which, based on their judgement, are more important. I'd rather prompt that the notes in the lede are in lieu of 'See x page' that can be found in articles pointing readers to the main page. ] (]) 22:32, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::@] I don't think any of those are at issue. Editors also make some of the same mistakes collectively, but that ], of course. If it is original research, it should be removed — and in this case it is OR. ] (]) 20:43, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
:That is a very good point. Good job! ] (]) 04:22, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


Not sure I know what the point is of making it smaller, since what dictates width in that infobox is the 26 innings of line score and at least from my perspective, making it smaller just increases whitespace and makes it harder to read. ] (]) 19:24, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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:I have no doubt that making the image a huge size makes it more visible, but it actually makes the article harder to read, rather than easier. A fine balance between good chunks of paragraph and portrait is best — with an image of that size, the paragraphs are far too squished. ] (]) 19:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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::I don't see that it makes the paragraphs any less squished because the line score (the inning-by-inning) is what is making the infobox so wide and doing the squishing. Perhaps it depends on what skin you use? ] (]) 19:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Thanks so much for your considerable efforts to assure balance in the C.T. article. Thanks also for including the Jackson quote. Though I have respected him immensely, I never thought of him, one way or the other, as being possessed with a sense of humor. ____


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Hi GuardianH, we know each other from higher-ed stuff. You really know your way around Misplaced Pages. I am no newcomer, myself, with more than 10,000 edits in German and English, but I do have questions from time to time. Mainly it has to do with conflict resolution, the quest for better referencing, puff reduction and so on. Could you take me on as a mentee for these areas? -- ] (]) 07:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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:Hey @], I'm unfortunately not the best mentor for such issues, and I fear that I would mislead you in some areas — there are editors much more versed in discussion and conflict resolution than myself. Most of my work is usually a passion project, and as such I try to best avoid any direct conflict. However, I'm always open for the questions, and I'm always willing to collab with you on article! With the amount of stuff on the site, it seems to me that the best teacher is experience; it certainly was for me. ] (]) 18:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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::OK, I see what you mean. If I have questions, I will write you on an ad hoc basis. Is that ok? And as you say, the best way is learning by doing, so if we can collab on some articles, all the better! --] (]) 07:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
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:::Of course, no worries. ] (]) 07:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


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{{tq|Actually, you've made a fair few edits to British biographies that appear to be based of incorrect assumptions. For example, it is not "condensing" to turn All Souls College, Oxford, Faculty of Classics, University of Oxford, St John's College, Oxford, and Brasenose College, Oxford into University of Oxford. This is like condensing University of California, Berkeley and University of California, Santa Cruz into one University of California. Oxford and Cambridge are weird universities: the colleges are (for the most part) independent institutions; and there are many illogical facets, such as "students" of Christ Church, Oxford actually being the academics, or ] not being real degrees.
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As above, I'm happy to point you in the right direction. was a good edit for example. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
:I'd agree with all this. ] (]) 17:00, 19 October 2023 (UTC)


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Hi GuardianH, what do you think about what an unregistered editor is doing on the Groton page? It seems like he or she is a connected contributor. -- ] (]) 18:48, 24 October 2023 (UTC) Hi GuardianH, I wanted to ask how you deal with unfounded or erroneous comments on your talk page. I noticed that you deleted one recently (I agreed completely with that decision). Do you feel obliged to archive stuff from your talk page? Then there is the "junk mail" one gets from time to time; hardly anyone could argue for archiving that, or what do you say? Thx. -- ] (]) 11:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


:I can't speak directly regarding the situation. But when it comes to ] problems, the first thing is to warn the user using a template like ]. Any edits that are ] of course must be removed, and there is also the ]. ] (]) 19:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC) :You're allowed a great deal of free reign over your talk page. I think there's some editors out there who have never even archived their talk page before; my understanding is that you aren't compelled to do so. It's more of a voluntary cleanup/organization task from time to time. As for comments, I try to respond to them even if they are misguided, so as to see if there is a common ground. ] (]) 21:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks for cleaning up that mess! ] (]) 16:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)


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Hey GuardianH, I stumbled upon your user page a short while ago — forgive me if it sounds weird, but I think all the stuff you’ve done is just incredible. I was also an Asian-American high schooler from Massachusetts just a short while ago (played a bit of jazz at NEC and All States here too, might be doxxing myself idk lol, maybe I know you?) and I’ve always really liked history (not as rigorous as you, I think) but most of my edits are just me carrying over DOY stuff from other language DOY pages (like Japanese or Chinese) because I don’t feel like I have enough time in college to pore over academic texts. I’d love to hear what your reading/writing process is for Misplaced Pages as a presumably busy student so I can do more (right now I feel more like I’m filling holes as I see them instead of spending time researching topics and making new pages about them).
Not sure I know what the point is of making it smaller, since what dictates width in that infobox is the 26 innings of line score and at least from my perspective, making it smaller just increases whitespace and makes it harder to read. ] (]) 19:24, 25 October 2023 (UTC)


P.S. Also, if you end up attending Harvard or MIT I’d love to meet up sometime 😎 ] (]) 14:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
:I have no doubt that making the image a huge size makes it more visible, but it actually makes the article harder to read, rather than easier. A fine balance between good chunks of paragraph and portrait is best — with an image of that size, the paragraphs are far too squished. ] (]) 19:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
::I don't see that it makes the paragraphs any less squished because the line score (the inning-by-inning) is what is making the infobox so wide and doing the squishing. Perhaps it depends on what skin you use? ] (]) 19:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Thanks so much for your considerable efforts to assure balance in the C.T. article. Thanks also for including the Jackson quote. Though I have respected him immensely, I never thought of him, one way or the other, as being possessed with a sense of humor. ____


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:@] I believe so. I think if you go to Preferences > Watchlist (tab) > '''Changes shown'''. ] (]) 12:56, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
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I want to thank you not only for your "thanks" on my recent edits (boy howdy, removing that Stossel LISTSPAM was actually quite a feat on the mobile app, which I learned doesn't scroll when you "drag-highlight," lol. I was in too deep to give up, though), but for all the work you do here. As I just posted on ElKevbo's page, the one positive for me in bumping into the disruptive editing from Summerdays1 has been uncovering contributors like yourselves, who are protecting the encyclopedia from sometimes-subtle BOOSTERISM in areas with higher-than-usual "drive-by" edits. You are awesome, and your tireless work is appreciated.
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I am a habitual copyeditor (I find it so relaxing, which I recognize might be weird lol) so if you ever come across articles which need text clean-up or just review, and don't have the time or inclination yourself, feel free to tag me in to have a look! Thanks again and happy editing :-D ~Chelsea aka ] (]) 17:22, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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:Hey @], I'm unfortunately not the best mentor for such issues, and I fear that I would mislead you in some areas — there are editors much more versed in discussion and conflict resolution than myself. Most of my work is usually a passion project, and as such I try to best avoid any direct conflict. However, I'm always open for the questions, and I'm always willing to collab with you on article! With the amount of stuff on the site, it seems to me that the best teacher is experience; it certainly was for me. ] (]) 18:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


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::OK, I see what you mean. If I have questions, I will write you on an ad hoc basis. Is that ok? And as you say, the best way is learning by doing, so if we can collab on some articles, all the better! --] (]) 07:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Of course, no worries. ] (]) 07:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


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:Summary of books required citations to the book being summarized. This is not NOR. The citations to the book are already there. Start Talk page if needed. ] (]) 14:02, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
::Who is giving the summary? Who is synthesizing information to present it to the reader? When you give a summary, you are condensing information and making editorial decisions what to include, what not to include, and what to write. The only source you provided is the primary source, so these decisions are made by you, which makes it ]. ] (]) 21:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Misplaced Pages editors are the ones who write the summaries on a daily basis for textbooks, novels, plays, and films. MOS states the policy as: "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as it is generally assumed that the work itself is the primary source for the plot summary." ] (]) 15:19, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
::::What you just cited comes from ]. Ely is nonfiction. You need to cite your sources without ]. ] (]) 21:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::If you believe that Misplaced Pages policy for summaries for fiction are different than summaries for nonfiction at Misplaced Pages, then that sounds incorrect. As I stated above, summaries for textbooks, novels, plays and films (fiction and nonfiction) do not require citations ("does not need to be sourced" to secondary sources). ] (]) 03:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


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== Harvard, Radcliffe, and A.B. (not B.A.) ==


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== Question about maintaining your talk page ==


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== Adoption ==

Hey GuardianH, I stumbled upon your user page a short while ago — forgive me if it sounds weird, but I think all the stuff you’ve done is just incredible. I was also an Asian-American high schooler from Massachusetts just a short while ago (played a bit of jazz at NEC and All States here too, might be doxxing myself idk lol, maybe I know you?) and I’ve always really liked history (not as rigorous as you, I think) but most of my edits are just me carrying over DOY stuff from other language DOY pages (like Japanese or Chinese) because I don’t feel like I have enough time in college to pore over academic texts. I’d love to hear what your reading/writing process is for Misplaced Pages as a presumably busy student so I can do more (right now I feel more like I’m filling holes as I see them instead of spending time researching topics and making new pages about them).

P.S. Also, if you end up attending Harvard or MIT I’d love to meet up sometime 😎 ] (]) 14:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

:@] Thank you for your kind words. I always wanted to be a historian when I was a kid, and the field I wanted to specialize in was ] and become a ] based off of the stuff I read from ], ], ], ], and other authors of the '']'' tradition. I think that's largely what has informed my writing the most; my personal bias is that the writing style then was so much more elegant that it is now. So I try to replicate their stylistic approach in summary as much as possible, and I think after you get at it for a long time it enters your subconscious. Same goes for research — you develop an eye and taste for content.
:I've shifted a little now. I think it would be very difficult to sustain a lifestyle as a medievalist in the academic field now, which is a terrible shame; my personal sympathies to the field remain, although I've transitioned towards ] and all the great figures which have molded that discipline — ], ], and the like. It's so similar to medieval history, in a way. I'm laboring away on ] (a personal ] of mine) right now. I don't know if looking at it would get my reading/writing process (I'm a terribly messy thinker as evidenced by the log), but, if I were to guess, that would be the page to look at.
:{{tq| I think all the stuff you’ve done is just incredible}} – I think you are giving me too much credit! {{Smiley}} I get into a terrible cycle with articles: after some inspiration all I can do for a few days is work on them, become disillusioned, and the writing is actually quite a disappointment. I end up abandoning a lot altogether, leaving their corpses behind (], ], ], and countless other casualties). I'd be willing to speak about my {{tq|process}} if you're still interested, but I think there really are much better writers than myself on here that could offer greater insight. ] (]) 19:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


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== Talk page and such ==
One, I don't know why you're minimizing accomplishments of colleges and universities. I have referenced what you claim was not in print.
Two, you said Misplaced Pages allows "great rein" whatever that is on individual talk pages and mentioned archiving. You go on to say that many people (users) don't archive talk pages. The key reason to archive talk pages is length. Who would want to plow through scores and hundreds of entries?] (]) 19:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
:Removing ] is not {{tq|minimizing accomplishments of colleges and universities}}. To the contrary, they are violations of our policies, especially ] and ]. It is also against the consensus established by ].
:{{tq|You go on to say that many people (users) don't archive talk pages}} — I never said that. There are editors who seldom archive their talk page, but they don't seem to form a majority. ] (]) 20:56, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
::To begin, are you able to show me places where you either made mistakes on here or where you learned something? You give the impression that you know something or more than most. I doubt you even know as much as I do.] (]) 23:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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Dodgers/Braves infobox photo

Not sure I know what the point is of making it smaller, since what dictates width in that infobox is the 26 innings of line score and at least from my perspective, making it smaller just increases whitespace and makes it harder to read. Wehwalt (talk) 19:24, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

I have no doubt that making the image a huge size makes it more visible, but it actually makes the article harder to read, rather than easier. A fine balance between good chunks of paragraph and portrait is best — with an image of that size, the paragraphs are far too squished. GuardianH (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
I don't see that it makes the paragraphs any less squished because the line score (the inning-by-inning) is what is making the infobox so wide and doing the squishing. Perhaps it depends on what skin you use? Wehwalt (talk) 19:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your considerable efforts to assure balance in the C.T. article. Thanks also for including the Jackson quote. Though I have respected him immensely, I never thought of him, one way or the other, as being possessed with a sense of humor. ____

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Mentorship

Hi GuardianH, we know each other from higher-ed stuff. You really know your way around Misplaced Pages. I am no newcomer, myself, with more than 10,000 edits in German and English, but I do have questions from time to time. Mainly it has to do with conflict resolution, the quest for better referencing, puff reduction and so on. Could you take me on as a mentee for these areas? -- Melchior2006 (talk) 07:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Melchior2006, I'm unfortunately not the best mentor for such issues, and I fear that I would mislead you in some areas — there are editors much more versed in discussion and conflict resolution than myself. Most of my work is usually a passion project, and as such I try to best avoid any direct conflict. However, I'm always open for the questions, and I'm always willing to collab with you on article! With the amount of stuff on the site, it seems to me that the best teacher is experience; it certainly was for me. GuardianH (talk) 18:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
OK, I see what you mean. If I have questions, I will write you on an ad hoc basis. Is that ok? And as you say, the best way is learning by doing, so if we can collab on some articles, all the better! --Melchior2006 (talk) 07:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Of course, no worries. GuardianH (talk) 07:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question about maintaining your talk page

Hi GuardianH, I wanted to ask how you deal with unfounded or erroneous comments on your talk page. I noticed that you deleted one recently (I agreed completely with that decision). Do you feel obliged to archive stuff from your talk page? Then there is the "junk mail" one gets from time to time; hardly anyone could argue for archiving that, or what do you say? Thx. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 11:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

You're allowed a great deal of free reign over your talk page. I think there's some editors out there who have never even archived their talk page before; my understanding is that you aren't compelled to do so. It's more of a voluntary cleanup/organization task from time to time. As for comments, I try to respond to them even if they are misguided, so as to see if there is a common ground. GuardianH (talk) 21:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Adoption

Hey GuardianH, I stumbled upon your user page a short while ago — forgive me if it sounds weird, but I think all the stuff you’ve done is just incredible. I was also an Asian-American high schooler from Massachusetts just a short while ago (played a bit of jazz at NEC and All States here too, might be doxxing myself idk lol, maybe I know you?) and I’ve always really liked history (not as rigorous as you, I think) but most of my edits are just me carrying over DOY stuff from other language DOY pages (like Japanese or Chinese) because I don’t feel like I have enough time in college to pore over academic texts. I’d love to hear what your reading/writing process is for Misplaced Pages as a presumably busy student so I can do more (right now I feel more like I’m filling holes as I see them instead of spending time researching topics and making new pages about them).

P.S. Also, if you end up attending Harvard or MIT I’d love to meet up sometime 😎 Marcustcii (talk) 14:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

@Marcustcii Thank you for your kind words. I always wanted to be a historian when I was a kid, and the field I wanted to specialize in was Byzantine history and become a medievalist based off of the stuff I read from Herrin, Goffart, Ostrogorsky, Kazhdan, and other authors of the Oxford tradition. I think that's largely what has informed my writing the most; my personal bias is that the writing style then was so much more elegant that it is now. So I try to replicate their stylistic approach in summary as much as possible, and I think after you get at it for a long time it enters your subconscious. Same goes for research — you develop an eye and taste for content.
I've shifted a little now. I think it would be very difficult to sustain a lifestyle as a medievalist in the academic field now, which is a terrible shame; my personal sympathies to the field remain, although I've transitioned towards constitutional law and all the great figures which have molded that discipline — Scalia, Hand, and the like. It's so similar to medieval history, in a way. I'm laboring away on Henry Friendly (a personal hero of mine) right now. I don't know if looking at it would get my reading/writing process (I'm a terribly messy thinker as evidenced by the log), but, if I were to guess, that would be the page to look at.
I think all the stuff you’ve done is just incredible – I think you are giving me too much credit! I get into a terrible cycle with articles: after some inspiration all I can do for a few days is work on them, become disillusioned, and the writing is actually quite a disappointment. I end up abandoning a lot altogether, leaving their corpses behind (Malone, White, Rand, and countless other casualties). I'd be willing to speak about my process if you're still interested, but I think there really are much better writers than myself on here that could offer greater insight. GuardianH (talk) 19:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Editing Bots out of my watchlist

Hi GuardianH! I have a little question: Can I set parameters somewhere to exclude bot changes from my watchlist? -- Melchior2006 (talk) 12:55, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

@Melchior2006 I believe so. I think if you go to Preferences > Watchlist (tab) > Changes shown. GuardianH (talk) 12:56, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
gotcha! That was easy. Thanks for your help. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 13:54, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks for your "thanks," and for all you do!

Hi GuardianH, what an impressive userpage you've got- you must have a very broad reading list with the topic interests you display and have made contributions to.

I want to thank you not only for your "thanks" on my recent edits (boy howdy, removing that Stossel LISTSPAM was actually quite a feat on the mobile app, which I learned doesn't scroll when you "drag-highlight," lol. I was in too deep to give up, though), but for all the work you do here. As I just posted on ElKevbo's page, the one positive for me in bumping into the disruptive editing from Summerdays1 has been uncovering contributors like yourselves, who are protecting the encyclopedia from sometimes-subtle BOOSTERISM in areas with higher-than-usual "drive-by" edits. You are awesome, and your tireless work is appreciated.

I am a habitual copyeditor (I find it so relaxing, which I recognize might be weird lol) so if you ever come across articles which need text clean-up or just review, and don't have the time or inclination yourself, feel free to tag me in to have a look! Thanks again and happy editing :-D ~Chelsea aka Chiselinccc (talk) 17:22, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. Copyeditors like you are what keeps articles running for years. GuardianH (talk) 17:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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