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	In response to increased Tsarist Russian activity in Sarikol around 1900, the local Sarikoli begs and Sarikoli people feared that Russia was going to annex the region and take it away from China, fearing molestation at the hands of the Russians, they wanted to flee to Yarkand. They did not believe the official explanation that Russia was only concerned with the postal service in the area.		In response to increased Tsarist Russian activity in Sarikol around 1900, the local Sarikoli begs and Sarikoli people feared that Russia was going to annex the region and take it away from China, fearing molestation at the hands of the Russians, they wanted to flee to Yarkand. They did not believe the official explanation that Russia was only concerned with the postal service in the area.

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	] → {{no redirect\|Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County}} – Per ]. . , despite the latter being the ]. When adjusting the smoothing of the data to >20, "Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County" overtakes "Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County". I do not think this detail matters though because that would account for a lot of algorithmic error. Furthermore, it seems more sensical to be consistent with other articles that already have the spelling "Tashkurgan" in their names, such as the article ] itself. "Tashkurgan" also makes more sense as an English name because the "x" in "Taxkorgan" is meant to be pronounced as "sh", a relic of a failed Uyghur transliteration system from the previous century (]) and the current unofficial system for Sarikoli that borrowed from Mandarin pinyin. <big>]]</big> 00:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)		] → {{no redirect\|Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County}} – Per ]. . , despite the latter being the ]. When adjusting the smoothing of the data to >20, "Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County" overtakes "Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County". I do not think this detail matters though because that would account for a lot of algorithmic error. Furthermore, it seems more sensical to be consistent with other articles that already have the spelling "Tashkurgan" in their names, such as the article ] itself. "Tashkurgan" also makes more sense as an English name because the "x" in "Taxkorgan" is meant to be pronounced as "sh", a relic of a failed Uyghur transliteration system from the previous century (]) and the current unofficial system for Sarikoli that borrowed from Mandarin pinyin. <big>]]</big> 00:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

	* '''Support''', it is using a bastardized Uyghur New Script, the precise version is "Taxⱪurƣan" with non-ASCII letters ] and ], see "Administrative divisions" table in article. --] (]) 07:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)		* '''Support''', it is using a bastardized Uyghur New Script, the precise version is "Taxⱪurƣan" with non-ASCII letters ] and ], see "Administrative divisions" table in article. --] (]) 07:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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On 14 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County to Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County. The result of the discussion was moved.

Flag

I was wondering if this autonomous region has a flag of its own and also if there is a map we can add to the article? Londium 22:27, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Chinese province/city/county/ do not have flag.--刻意(Kèyì) 19:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

In the Soviet Union autonomous regions had their own flags, but that tradition was never adopted in the PRC.David Straub (talk) 17:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Reference

I am notifying readers that I have taken the liberty of adding a reference to a discussion in my book, Through the Jade Gate to Rome (2009), establishing that Tashkurgan was known as 'Puli' during the Later Han Dynasty. There was no reference previously backing this statement in the article and a reference was needed (an many others are still needed for other assertions in the article). The discussion in my book contains a number of quotes from recognised published scholars which establishes that Han 'Puli' referred to the region of modern Tashkurgan, I believe, beyond question, so I thought I was justified to refer to it. I hope this is not seen as self-promotion.John Hill (talk) 08:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Uygur name?

I don't understand why is there here uygur's name equivalences? This region is not uygur, and it's chinese --Alsace38 (talk) 09:57, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Because Xinjiang is an Uyghur Autonomous Region. GotR 14:55, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Anti-Russian sentiment among Sarikoli (Tajiks of Xinjiang) in 1900

In response to increased Tsarist Russian activity in Sarikol around 1900, the local Sarikoli begs and Sarikoli people feared that Russia was going to annex the region and take it away from China, fearing molestation at the hands of the Russians, they wanted to flee to Yarkand. They did not believe the official explanation that Russia was only concerned with the postal service in the area.

Macartney at Kashgar: New Light on British, Chinese and Russian Activities in Sinkiang, 1890-1918

Rajmaan (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 14 January 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 05:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County → Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Tashkurgan has been used far more often than Taxkorgan. "Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County" has only recently (since 2011) been used more commonly than "Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County", despite the latter being the official name. When adjusting the smoothing of the data to >20, "Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County" overtakes "Tashkurgan Tajik Autonomous County". I do not think this detail matters though because that would account for a lot of algorithmic error. Furthermore, it seems more sensical to be consistent with other articles that already have the spelling "Tashkurgan" in their names, such as the article Tashkurgan itself. "Tashkurgan" also makes more sense as an English name because the "x" in "Taxkorgan" is meant to be pronounced as "sh", a relic of a failed Uyghur transliteration system from the previous century (Uyghur New Script) and the current unofficial system for Sarikoli that borrowed from Mandarin pinyin. Yue🌙 00:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Support, it is using a bastardized Uyghur New Script, the precise version is "Taxⱪurƣan" with non-ASCII letters ⱪ and ƣ, see "Administrative divisions" table in article. --Voidvector (talk) 07:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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