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== WP:MOS Plot Summary guidelines ==
== Invitation to an in-person meetup in Mohua / Golden Bay ==


Greetings, User DerbyCountyinNZ. The natural impulse is to applaud your desire to improve film plots, but evidently you are unfamiliar with the WP:MOS Plot Summary guidelines (]). They limit plot summaries to 400-700 words. Please adjust your edits to plot summaries accordingly. Thank you. ] (]) 13:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
] are holding some seats for us until 21 November]]
Thinking about your summer break? Think about joining other Wikipedians and Wikimedians in ]! Details are on the ]. There's heaps of interesting stuff to work on e.g. the oldest extant waka or New Zealand's oldest ongoing legal case. Or you may spend your time taking photos and then upload them.


:I generally don't waste my time communicating with editors who can't be bothered creating a user name, but I'll make an exception. No, wasn't aware of the word limit. However the plots I've attempted to fix were all either too short, inaccurate, awfully written (e.g. containing ] or read like a film review), copy IMDB or contain cast name when there is already a cast list. So returning them to their previous state rather than trimming them doesn't sound like co-operative editing to me. ] <sup>(] ])</sup> 20:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Golden Bay is hard to get to and ] flying into ] uses small planes, so we are holding some seats from and to ] '''and''' we are offering attendees a $200 travel subsidy to help with costs.
::That's your POV...and obviously (from the last two items on this talk page alone) you find POV issues quite readily. The reality is that the new summaries were grossly over a clearly delineated limit. Since you wrote them, if you would like to trim them down and resubmit them, that would be fine. But trying to shift that burden is not cricket.] (]) 11:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
::And BTW, belay your arrogance towards unregistered users. The ethos of the encyclopedia is that ''everyone'' may contribute, and everyone is ''equally respected'' and ''accepted''...until they prove otherwise. Registering is s ''choice'', and has its trade-offs, indeed quite stacked to advantage. But it is no immunity to treating unregistered users without respect. I have made somewhere close to 75,000 edits as one to this encyclopedia since some time after 2005. Unfortunately, technology has changed in that time and every single day I am issued a new digital identity by some server or other (and lose all record of the previous day's activity, where once it would stay the same for the duration of a device). Regardless, it's how one acts here that matters, not what identity they edit under. ] (]) 11:29, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
::Last, don't get me wrong. I very much appreciate what you were trying to do, and have great appreciation for a well-crafted movie plot (and indeed am tolerant of reasonable spillover above the WP:MOS ''guidelines'', and resent MOS nazis that misconceive "guideline" and "mandate" and go around trimming any single word over 700 off as if it were a divine mission). But 250 and 300 words (on everyday movies) is way beyond that. And strongly suggested you were just as unaware of the plot guidelines as I was when I went through the identical thing (with a similar bristling). Since you wrote the overlong plots, and indeed seem to have both skill and enthusiasm for writing, it seemed worth the effort to give you the first opportunity to trim your revisions down to a reasonable length that suited you. ] (]) 11:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
⚫ :::Subject closed. ] <sup>(] ])</sup> 21:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
::::You have a nice day, too. ] (]) 11:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::OAA. ] <sup>(] ])</sup> 22:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::Old Age Act? "Out and about"? ?
::::::Must be a local colloquialism, as Google doesn't turn anything else up.
::::::Don't worry, I won't check back. You can have the last word. And can look up what "being a pill" means. ] (]) 00:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::OAA and AAA! They're not compliments. ] <sup>(] ])</sup> 00:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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WP:MOS Plot Summary guidelines

Greetings, User DerbyCountyinNZ. The natural impulse is to applaud your desire to improve film plots, but evidently you are unfamiliar with the WP:MOS Plot Summary guidelines (here). They limit plot summaries to 400-700 words. Please adjust your edits to plot summaries accordingly. Thank you. 2601:196:180:DC0:4DD6:CB1C:77E5:8408 (talk) 13:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

I generally don't waste my time communicating with editors who can't be bothered creating a user name, but I'll make an exception. No, wasn't aware of the word limit. However the plots I've attempted to fix were all either too short, inaccurate, awfully written (e.g. containing WP:EDITORIAL or read like a film review), copy IMDB or contain cast name when there is already a cast list. So returning them to their previous state rather than trimming them doesn't sound like co-operative editing to me. DerbyCountyinNZ 20:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
That's your POV...and obviously (from the last two items on this talk page alone) you find POV issues quite readily. The reality is that the new summaries were grossly over a clearly delineated limit. Since you wrote them, if you would like to trim them down and resubmit them, that would be fine. But trying to shift that burden is not cricket.2601:196:180:DC0:39CF:858C:C7AD:6E5 (talk) 11:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
And BTW, belay your arrogance towards unregistered users. The ethos of the encyclopedia is that everyone may contribute, and everyone is equally respected and accepted...until they prove otherwise. Registering is s choice, and has its trade-offs, indeed quite stacked to advantage. But it is no immunity to treating unregistered users without respect. I have made somewhere close to 75,000 edits as one to this encyclopedia since some time after 2005. Unfortunately, technology has changed in that time and every single day I am issued a new digital identity by some server or other (and lose all record of the previous day's activity, where once it would stay the same for the duration of a device). Regardless, it's how one acts here that matters, not what identity they edit under. 2601:196:180:DC0:39CF:858C:C7AD:6E5 (talk) 11:29, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Last, don't get me wrong. I very much appreciate what you were trying to do, and have great appreciation for a well-crafted movie plot (and indeed am tolerant of reasonable spillover above the WP:MOS guidelines, and resent MOS nazis that misconceive "guideline" and "mandate" and go around trimming any single word over 700 off as if it were a divine mission). But 250 and 300 words (on everyday movies) is way beyond that. And strongly suggested you were just as unaware of the plot guidelines as I was when I went through the identical thing (with a similar bristling). Since you wrote the overlong plots, and indeed seem to have both skill and enthusiasm for writing, it seemed worth the effort to give you the first opportunity to trim your revisions down to a reasonable length that suited you. 2601:196:180:DC0:39CF:858C:C7AD:6E5 (talk) 11:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Subject closed. DerbyCountyinNZ 21:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
You have a nice day, too. 2601:196:180:DC0:D8FB:F2ED:6547:F673 (talk) 11:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
OAA. DerbyCountyinNZ 22:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Old Age Act? "Out and about"? Aggrending?
Must be a local colloquialism, as Google doesn't turn anything else up.
Don't worry, I won't check back. You can have the last word. And can look up what "being a pill" means. 2601:196:180:DC0:F1C8:5605:6D2E:6ED5 (talk) 00:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
OAA and AAA! They're not compliments. DerbyCountyinNZ 00:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Marie Brémont and possibly others

Hi Derby, this is JFG, I've got no time to edit these days, but I noticed this revert from an editor who doesn't listen. If you wish to get involved again, you have my blessings. 2A04:EE41:82:A1B5:C5EB:E2B:FC3E:70E (talk) 07:32, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Should be taken to Afd, there are plenty of policy-based reasons that could be cited for deletion. I can't be bothered, but will be happy to support deletion if it comes up. DerbyCountyinNZ 08:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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