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I'm not sure that we need an article about each US Hispanic racial subgroup. If I had to do it over, I wouldn't have re-started this one after I renamed it to White Latin American (to match its contents, since it was actually about White Latin Americans). But it's up already, so I'll leave it to you, fellow Wikipedians, to decide. Obviously, keeping it means we'd have to create articles for the other Hispanic subgroups. Anyway, talk amongst yourselves. ] 03:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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== "Marriage trends" bias? ==
Why is there no information regarding Hispanic white women marrying non-Hispanic? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:45, 22 January 2016 (UTC)</span>


:You are right. Most second generation white Hispanic women marry white non-hispanic men, so by the third generation their children are just Anglos, who speak English and have English names.--] (]) 19:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
==Add other White Hispanics==


::Use Latino instead of Hispanic, don't forget Brazil and Haiti ] (]) 01:02, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
There are plenty of white hispanics out there like Daisy Fuentes, Andy Garcia and Benecio Del Toro. Remember that we shouldnt use the Anglo-American definition for "white" which simply only compromises those with Nordic features. Those with Mediterranean features count too. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 06:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->


:::Excuse me white Hispanic women who marry white non Hispanic men who then have children Are not just Anglo They will always be descendent from Hispanics in this case They are not bred away What the hell are you talking about. You write about this as it was some sort of remedy... ] (]) 07:14, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
:I'd say Benecio del Toro shows marginally mestizo features, maybe not in build or stature, but facially. The two examples given in the article currently look rather 'alpinid' to me, not nordic. ] 04:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


An important part of the population in Latinamerica have ancestors who were NOT Hispanic but Italian, Quechua, German, Maya, French, Guarani, Bantu, Croatian, Lebanese etc, etc...but their descendants have been assimilated by the Spanish ethnicity becoming "Hispanic". And the same happen to millions of people from all the World who are being assimilated by the English ethnicity becoming "Anglos" in the U.S, Canada or Australia. Cameron Diaz is NOT Hispanic but Anglo, same way as the former President of Argentina, Nestor Kirschner IS "Hispanic" even if he had German ancestors, or the President of El Salvador, Bukele, IS "Hspanic" even if he has Lebanese ancestors etc, etc. There are hundreds of millions of Latinamericans whose ancestors were not Spanish but they have been assimilated into the SPANISH culture and ethnicity, and the same happens in the U.S. or Australia with hundreds of millions of Americans whose ancestors are not English but they have been assimilated by teh ENGLISH culture and etnicity. Same in Brazil. Just compare Brazil to tiny Portugal. dozens of millions of people from all the World have been assimilated by teh PORTUGUESE culture in Brazil. Same in Russia. Same here in Spain or in England with a long process of assimilation of millions of immigrants.--] (]) 01:42, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
:Even if they show marginally mestizo features, that should'nt stop us from including him. We shoudln't be like the Anglo-Americans that incorporate the "one-drop rule" theory. Burt Reynolds, Chuck Norris and Wayne Newton are all seen as "good ol' boy" white dudes but they have admitted to recent and significant Native American blood, making them mestizo by category. Benecio Del Toro looks the same as Reynolds and Netwon in that he is just a 'dark' white man whit possible native admixture.

:The two examples given are rather alpine, I guess you could say, but most people wouldnt know the difference between the two. In the United States there is a twisted definition of white that is not only ignorant but overtly racist (if you can even call it that). The better term would be classist because, the Americans of Northern European decent consider themselves to be white while they classify Southern and most Eastern Europeans as non-white. And top of that the group designated as non-white has to pretty much rise to the top of the socio-economic ladder to be considered "Anglo" or "White". That explains who Italians (who are a Latin group) and Greeks suddenly became Anglo in the United States. That explains how Cubans in the 1950's were caucasians but suddenly when Castro took power and stranded all the Cubans in America, their "prestige" factor went down, as did their "white" status. The Mariel incident was the final nail in the coffin.
::::How curious, Spaniards and Nicaraguans are of the same ''ethnicity'', but British and English-speaking Afro-Caribbean Nicaraguans are not. '''CAMERON DÍAZ IS HISPANIC. GET OVER IT. PAUL GOSAR TOO. Bernardette Erramouspe, his Basque mother, was from Banca (Lower Navarre), in the ], a French and Spanish condominium. In Mexican: Bernarda Erramuzpe. Amerikkka created the delirious category of ''Hispanic'' Abide by your own delirious rules, gringos. Sudanese are classiffied as white by the US Census Bureau (lol). Spaniards are not. Period. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== December 2020 ==
'''RITA HAYWORTH, RAQUEL WELCH CAMERON DIAZ MARTIN SHEEN MIGUEL FERRER''' You forget American actors and actress of Spanish ancestry like Rita Hayworth (Margarita Cansino), Raquel Welch (Raquel Tejada), Cameron Díaz, Martin Sheen (Estevez, Miguel Ferrer...they are White, but I think they should be considered Anglos, assimilated --] (]) 19:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

::::Spoiler: Spaniards are white. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== White latino who self-identifies as white ==
Let me be Blunt, I being from Spanish descent do not just identify myself as just being white, My family from the pass immigrated from Spain to Puerto Rico and then to New York Which would make me an American Puerto Rican, I identify myself as white because that is what my skin color is it is not black nor brown or any other color, Try to remember that being white is not just a race If you're from Irish descent or British descent or Norwegian, Russian, German etc, than you also will have that color as well, it's not special. You gave me the impression that some latinos have a problem with their identities and I strongly disagree with that I know who I am, Now if I'm wrong about this then the author of this page needs to explain what he meant when he wrote White latino who self-identifies as white really means. -- George Ortiz ] (]) 07:09, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

:In fact, one of the main Boer leaders KOOS DE LA REY had Spanish ancestors...but he was Afrikaner, not Hispanic or Spanish. He was just Afrikaner, Boer, completely assimilated by descendants of Dutch colonists. And the same can be said about millions of Latinamericans whose ancestors were Italian, German, Quechua, Maya, Croatian, Lebanese etc, etc.--] (]) 01:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

== 26 million drop in one year? ==
''As of 2020, 62 million or 18.7% of residents of the United States of America identified as Hispanic or Latino of which 12.5 million or 20.3% self-identified as white alone down from the 2019 American Community Survey when 38.3 million, or 65.5% of Latinos self-identified as white.''

Clearly, there is a methodology problem here. Populations do not drop from 38M to 12M in one year just like that. ] (]) 15:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

== "Genetics" ==

''Many other Latin American countries with relatively high proportions of white Latin Americans are Paraguay and Chile.''

This is not true, Paraguay's population is largely mestizo. Not to mention that a majority of its population actually speaks Guarani, an indigenous language. ] (]) 04:56, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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"Marriage trends" bias?

Why is there no information regarding Hispanic white women marrying non-Hispanic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MVillani1985 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

You are right. Most second generation white Hispanic women marry white non-hispanic men, so by the third generation their children are just Anglos, who speak English and have English names.--213.60.225.183 (talk) 19:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Use Latino instead of Hispanic, don't forget Brazil and Haiti L1948L (talk) 01:02, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Excuse me white Hispanic women who marry white non Hispanic men who then have children Are not just Anglo They will always be descendent from Hispanics in this case They are not bred away What the hell are you talking about. You write about this as it was some sort of remedy... Skynet Ny1 (talk) 07:14, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

An important part of the population in Latinamerica have ancestors who were NOT Hispanic but Italian, Quechua, German, Maya, French, Guarani, Bantu, Croatian, Lebanese etc, etc...but their descendants have been assimilated by the Spanish ethnicity becoming "Hispanic". And the same happen to millions of people from all the World who are being assimilated by the English ethnicity becoming "Anglos" in the U.S, Canada or Australia. Cameron Diaz is NOT Hispanic but Anglo, same way as the former President of Argentina, Nestor Kirschner IS "Hispanic" even if he had German ancestors, or the President of El Salvador, Bukele, IS "Hspanic" even if he has Lebanese ancestors etc, etc. There are hundreds of millions of Latinamericans whose ancestors were not Spanish but they have been assimilated into the SPANISH culture and ethnicity, and the same happens in the U.S. or Australia with hundreds of millions of Americans whose ancestors are not English but they have been assimilated by teh ENGLISH culture and etnicity. Same in Brazil. Just compare Brazil to tiny Portugal. dozens of millions of people from all the World have been assimilated by teh PORTUGUESE culture in Brazil. Same in Russia. Same here in Spain or in England with a long process of assimilation of millions of immigrants.--88.12.248.187 (talk) 01:42, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

How curious, Spaniards and Nicaraguans are of the same ethnicity, but British and English-speaking Afro-Caribbean Nicaraguans are not. CAMERON DÍAZ IS HISPANIC. GET OVER IT. PAUL GOSAR TOO. Bernardette Erramouspe, his Basque mother, was from Banca (Lower Navarre), in the Quinto Real, a French and Spanish condominium. In Mexican: Bernarda Erramuzpe. Amerikkka created the delirious category of Hispanic Abide by your own delirious rules, gringos. Sudanese are classiffied as white by the US Census Bureau (lol). Spaniards are not. Period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.99.89.51 (talk) 11:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

December 2020

RITA HAYWORTH, RAQUEL WELCH CAMERON DIAZ MARTIN SHEEN MIGUEL FERRER You forget American actors and actress of Spanish ancestry like Rita Hayworth (Margarita Cansino), Raquel Welch (Raquel Tejada), Cameron Díaz, Martin Sheen (Estevez, Miguel Ferrer...they are White, but I think they should be considered Anglos, assimilated --213.60.225.183 (talk) 19:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Spoiler: Spaniards are white. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.99.89.51 (talk) 11:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

White latino who self-identifies as white

Let me be Blunt, I being from Spanish descent do not just identify myself as just being white, My family from the pass immigrated from Spain to Puerto Rico and then to New York Which would make me an American Puerto Rican, I identify myself as white because that is what my skin color is it is not black nor brown or any other color, Try to remember that being white is not just a race If you're from Irish descent or British descent or Norwegian, Russian, German etc, than you also will have that color as well, it's not special. You gave me the impression that some latinos have a problem with their identities and I strongly disagree with that I know who I am, Now if I'm wrong about this then the author of this page needs to explain what he meant when he wrote White latino who self-identifies as white really means. -- George Ortiz Skynet Ny1 (talk) 07:09, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

In fact, one of the main Boer leaders KOOS DE LA REY had Spanish ancestors...but he was Afrikaner, not Hispanic or Spanish. He was just Afrikaner, Boer, completely assimilated by descendants of Dutch colonists. And the same can be said about millions of Latinamericans whose ancestors were Italian, German, Quechua, Maya, Croatian, Lebanese etc, etc.--88.12.248.187 (talk) 01:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

26 million drop in one year?

As of 2020, 62 million or 18.7% of residents of the United States of America identified as Hispanic or Latino of which 12.5 million or 20.3% self-identified as white alone down from the 2019 American Community Survey when 38.3 million, or 65.5% of Latinos self-identified as white.

Clearly, there is a methodology problem here. Populations do not drop from 38M to 12M in one year just like that. 2600:1702:6D0:5160:853B:1F61:D810:B710 (talk) 15:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

"Genetics"

Many other Latin American countries with relatively high proportions of white Latin Americans are Paraguay and Chile.

This is not true, Paraguay's population is largely mestizo. Not to mention that a majority of its population actually speaks Guarani, an indigenous language. Dmh17 (talk) 04:56, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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