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== Setlist == |
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I'm sorry I don't want to be disrespectful in any way but I find the setlist incorrect and the samples/extracts/excepts are wrong in so many parts. I suggest some changes, I hope you can approve them: |
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8 . "Live to Tell" (with elements of "In This Life") |
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On "Like a prayer" there's no "Let's Go Crazy" elements, it can be found in the "Blond Ambition" section and I'd delete "Erotica" and "Justify My Love" in it. |
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12. "Erotica" (with elements of "Justify My Love (12" Orbit Remix), "Final Demo 2" and "Papa Don't Preach") |
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13. "Justify My Love"/"Fever" (include elements of ]") |
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14. "Hung Up" (includes elements of "Hung Up on Tokischa") |
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On the Ballroom section I'd add Deeper and Deeper but I don't remember the exact name of the remix. |
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18. "Human Nature"/"Crazy for You" |
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24. "La Isla Bonita"/"Don't Cry for Me Argentina" |
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25. "I Don't Search I Find" (Honey Dijon remix,intermission) |
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In "Like a Virgin" I'd add "Into The Groove" since it contains "You wanna dance?" |
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Sorry if I made mistakes with numbers or some letters I'm not an English speaker. Thank you. ] (]) 19:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{not done}} Set list is sourced well from published, reliable sources like BBC and Billboard. I don't really see any point in changing them, as we need to ] per policy. ] (]) 19:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::So why it say that Hung Up has a Gangsta sample which it doesn't but it can be found in Justify My Love? Thant's my point. Like I said I didn't want to be disrespectful but I think some changes are necessary. ] (]) 20:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Please provide ] that support your changes. ] (]) 15:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::https://www.panorama.it/lifestyle/musica/madonna-londra-scaletta-celebration-tour here is saying what I've been saying about "]" sampled on Justify My Love. It's in italian but it's a reliable source I suppose. |
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::::https://www.musicradar.com/news/madonna-prince-like-a-prayer here it is "Let's Go Crazy" in Living For Love ergo in the Blond Ambition section not in Like a Prayer. |
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::::Also, you can hear them without a ] that confirms it, but I understand the policy. ] (]) 15:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::In return, I will also share the sources that are already given for my reasoning of why ] comes to mind. |
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:::::- {{cite web |last=Savage |first=Mark |date=October 15, 2023 |title=Madonna's Celebration Tour reviewed: The Queen of pop brings out her crown jewels |url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67098882 |access-date=October 15, 2023 |publisher=BBC}} |
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:::::- {{cite magazine |last=Lynch |first=Joe |title=The 17 Best Moments From Madonna's Celebration Tour Opening Night in London |url=https://www.billboard.com/lists/madonna-tour-celebration-london-opening-night-best-moments/birthday-star/ |magazine=] |access-date=October 15, 2023|date=October 14, 2023}} |
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:::::- {{cite web |last1=Vito |first1=Jo |title=Madonna kicks off 'The Celebration Tour' in London: Setlist + Photos |url=https://consequence.net/2023/10/madonna-celebration-tour-photos-setlist/ |website=Consequence |access-date=November 2, 2023 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20231015024431/https://consequence.net/2023/10/madonna-celebration-tour-photos-setlist/ |archive-date=October 15, 2023 |date=October 14, 2023}} |
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:::::These are the sources provided even in the section, and it does clearly state above in text that it is used from the London, England show, and word-for-word, {{tq|does not represent all concerts for the duration of the tour}}. These would be the reasons why I think it shouldn't change. Besides, the tour is almost over anyway. ] (]) 19:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::I'm sorry but these articles are incorrect. Even if you watch the first show you'll see I'm right! I thought someone would have changed it but no one did so I wrote it. I don't knpw what else I could do to change the setlist. I agree with the numbers, but some parts are incorrect. ] (]) 19:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::And also, the articles I did share are from the first London show. ] (]) 19:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::At this point, I think it might be helpful to get some third opinions to see if a compromise can be worked out. ] (]) 22:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC) |
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| style="padding-left: 1.6em;" | The setlist needs to reflect what has been reported by ]. Personal observations are considered ] and that cannot be used to justify changes. I hope this helps. Thanks <!-- Template:Third opinion response --> ] (]) 03:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:I agree. But some reliable sources say I'm right. ] (]) 18:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::IP, the point of this discussion is to come to a compromise that all editors can be happy with, it's not about who is right and who is wrong. ] (]) 17:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Boxscores check == |
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@] are you able to see if the boxscore edit I made looks good as per what we discussed in a previous thread? —] <sup>] ]</sup> 19:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:@] Looks perfectly incorporated. Ping ], the third involved user if he/she needs to address further something. BTW, you might consider check article's prose, or condense if necessary, from commercial performance to impact sections. --] (]) 00:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2024 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|The Celebration Tour|answered=no}} |
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I would like to suggest that under “Concert Synopsis,” the part that says “spinning carousel-like glass window” can be rewritten as a “spinning zoetrope,” because that is what it is! ] (]) 00:17, 5 April 2024 (UTC) |
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