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⚫ | == ''The Signpost'': 24 December 2024 == | ||
== Wikimania scholarships == | |||
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Hi Jimmy — I received an email this morning from the Wikimania 2024 Scholarship Committee, led by {{usergc|K2suvi}}, rejecting my application. | |||
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You may have come across ], which I link only to establish that my level of participation in Wikimedia projects is not considered borderline by the community here. | |||
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From past discussion with other editors, I understand that this outcome is not unusual — the scholarship committee, constrained by a budget that last year permitted them to accept ] of applicants, and following a rubric better-suited to affiliate/outreach work than on-wiki editing, routinely rejects even ] and other highly respected editors. | |||
Happy New Year Jimbo Wales! Wish you luck in 2025! ] (]) 03:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
In-person conferences provide a valuable opportunity to bring together the different parts of the movement and bridge some of the cultural divides that exist between them. Personally, the connections I have made at WikiConference North America have been invaluable, particularly for my work collaborating with foundation staff to inform the development of features like the ], which is using my ] as a model. I would have liked to expand and deepen those connections at Wikimania. | |||
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I recognize that travel scholarships aren't cheap. However, I find it deeply unfortunate — not just for myself, but for everyone similarly situated and for the resulting opportunity cost to the movement — that the foundation, belying its oft-repeated appreciation for the editor community, has chosen to devote so few of its considerable financial resources to enabling editors to join its flagship conference in person. | |||
Happy New Year Jimbo!!! I hope all is well with you and your team. | |||
Could you or your page watchers help me with ]? The draft has been declined and tagged up. It was then deleted years ago. I had it restored today after I came across one of his photos. I think he and his photography are fascinating for capturing aspects of New Zealand's transportation and industrial history. His work is in museum and library collections. At least one of his photographs has been used in a book. He photographed Maori sites. | |||
Given your own role at Wikimania and influence as a trustee over the foundation's budget, I am interested to hear your thoughts on this topic. Also pinging @] and @] as the respective Lead and Communications Lead for the conference. | |||
I'm sorry I haven't been able to work the draft up enough to get it admitted to mainspace. It does make me wonder about what we do and don't include, our notability criteria, Articles for Creation (AfC) process, and collaborative ethos. Thanks so much for any help or guidance you can offer! Have a great 2025 and beyond. Thanks again. ] (]) 17:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Regards, <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 22:09, 27 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Hey @], thank you for your ping. | |||
:You are raising an important matter that the ] (and all past COTs) is well aware of and is actively trying to combat. Wikimedia conferences are an important space of celebration and knowledge exchange in our Movement and we wish all of the community members could attend them. As much as we would want to, unfortunately, we don’t have resources to offer a scholarship to all of the deserving volunteers. This year the acceptance rate is 15 times less than the number of Wikimedians who applied for the scholarship, in spite of having increased from 2023 the total number of scholarships granted. For 2024 we have shifted our resources to awarding more partial scholarships to the people in the region (]), but even then, we still had to reject many well-prepared and worthy applicants. | |||
:We are working with the WMF to stretch the resources we were given, so the maximum number of scholars can benefit from the conference. I can already share with you that for 2024 we are looking to send a record number of at least 230 scholars to Wikimania, but even this number (almost double from 2019 and 20% more than in 2023) doesn’t allow us to send everyone we would have loved to see at the conference. The Wikimedia Foundation will continue to subsidize the in person ticket and cover all costs related to the virtual event – it will remain free to attend virtually. | |||
:In the next few weeks and months, we will be publishing data about the scholarship process. We would like to publish several “lessons learned”, both for the community and future organizers and useful resources for future applicants (including a few best-scored applications from this year and general comments that should be useful in application preparing for future Wikimanias and other conferences). | |||
:If you have any more questions about this year’s process, please watch the page ] where we will publish more information. Please feel free to reach out to me as well if you’d like. | |||
:Cheers, ] (]) 21:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for the detailed response. Sounds like the # of scholarships last year was around 200 and this year is around 230, and that a very large # of editors apply. Do you happen to know the total number of applicants last year and this year? Just to get an idea. –] <small>(])</small> 21:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Hey @]! | |||
:::Last year 1,206 applications were moved to the grading phase. For Wikimania 2024 there were 1,433 applications that the scholarship working group worked on. In addition to that, there were many more (majority) that were discarded in earlier phases or on technical basis (e.g. banned users, unfinished applications, partially blank, single words answers etc), so they were not graded by our team. If you are interested, more detailed information and stats will be published on Wikimania wiki in the next few weeks and months. ] (]) 13:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Great info. Thank you. So this year it was about 230/1433 = 16%, or approximately 1 in 7. Yeah, pretty competitive. –] <small>(])</small> 13:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::I've left a note at Nadzik's talk page wondering the exact amount allocated for these 230 scholarships for Poland and other questions pertaining to funding conferences. Thanks for this ongoing discussion (had also left a note at {{u|Skdb}}'s talk page a few days ago). Is there still time to increase the number of scholarships to the Poland conference? ] (]) 13:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
:While it would be great if the WMF had infinite resources, I personally think it would be best if the WMF spent less on conferences—and more on things like the community wishlist that benefit readers and editors who don't go to meetups. (] · ]) ''']''' 19:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I agree that the foundation ought to be spending more on community priorities. Conferences are an opportunity for us to advocate for those priorities and build relationships with foundation staff that bring our priorities into better alignment — but that can only happen if we are present. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 19:55, 12 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::My experience is that conferences and meetups are very, very important for building community and collaborative relationships. | |||
:::The technology for editing this website works pretty well. It's the human relationships aspect of the community that is much, much more challenging! This online environment can become quite unpleasant sometimes, and many editors leave as a result. | |||
:::We really need more scholarships to encourage the editors who are creating quality content. ] (]) 15:41, 7 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
] <small>'''Bumping thread'''. {{u|Jimbo Wales}}, I am interested to hear your thoughts on this topic. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 16:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</small><!-- ] 16:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC) -->{{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|1714752375}} | |||
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== Edelman Family Foundation == | |||
Hello ]! | |||
I am writing to you regarding a concerning issue with the ] in the ] Misplaced Pages article, which I believe requires your attention and guidance. | |||
Firstly, I want to express my gratitude for ] to expand the section to encompass the full scope of the Edelman Family Foundation's activities, rather than focusing solely on a single donation. | |||
However, I have encountered fierce opposition from some editors when attempting to include information about the foundation's numerous other contributions to various causes, as evidenced by reliable sources such as ''ProPublica''. | |||
Despite my efforts to provide a more neutral and complete picture of the organization's activities, the section continues to focus SOLELY on the controversial donation to the DO NOT HARM organization, while ignoring the foundation's support for educational initiatives, scientific research, and other charitable causes. | |||
This selective inclusion of information raises serious concerns about bias and the violation of Misplaced Pages's core principle of neutrality (]). The current state of the section paints an unbalanced and misleading picture of the Edelman Family Foundation, which goes against our mission to provide accurate and unbiased information to our readers. | |||
I suspect that there may be underlying biases influencing the resistance to include a more comprehensive and neutral representation of the foundation's activities. To address this issue, I have initiated a ], where I hope to engage with other editors and work towards finding a consensual solution. | |||
Given your role as the founder of Misplaced Pages and your commitment to maintaining the integrity of the platform, I kindly request your participation in this discussion or at least sharing your opinion. ] (]) 18:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:]: {{green|...a selected few contributors feel that as Jimbo Wales is the founder/co-founder of Misplaced Pages that it would be best to appeal to him directly. The theory behind this is that their appeals will be heard and Jimbo will latch onto the argument in full agreement with the petitioner. Thereafter, Jimbo will logically smite the wicked editor who dared raise concerns about their behaviour/fundamentally change existing policy/delete the offending item from Misplaced Pages. '''The unfortunate news here is that it almost never works.'''}} ] (]) 23:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Let me disagree with you, @], and it looks like you only wish to discourage me from doing the right things. Thanks for "helping" new Misplaced Pages editors indeed based on your in-depth knowledge and experience! For your information, Jimmy Wales has the same rights to share his opinion on any Misplaced Pages article, and I treat him as an equal editor, not as a "problem solver" as you described in your very personal message. You'd also be surprised that Jimmy Wales actually responded to my previous message left here and suggested improving the section on the Edelman Family | |||
::Foundation. Here is the ], so you can read it. Don't hesitate to share another helpful opinion. | |||
::Yours faithfully, ] (]) 13:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Hi! == | |||
I got a question for you, did you find the Jimbo Whales joke funny?, if not, im sorry. ] Your bisexual friend! 14:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:What joke do you mean? I'm sure I can enjoy almost anything really. I'm a pretty chill person. ] (]) 15:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I think it means to Jimbo's user page.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 17:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Happy New Year Jimbo Wales! Wish you luck in 2025! Gooners Fan in North London (talk) 03:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Albert Percy Godber
Happy New Year Jimbo!!! I hope all is well with you and your team.
Could you or your page watchers help me with Draft:Albert Percy Godber? The draft has been declined and tagged up. It was then deleted years ago. I had it restored today after I came across one of his photos. I think he and his photography are fascinating for capturing aspects of New Zealand's transportation and industrial history. His work is in museum and library collections. At least one of his photographs has been used in a book. He photographed Maori sites.
I'm sorry I haven't been able to work the draft up enough to get it admitted to mainspace. It does make me wonder about what we do and don't include, our notability criteria, Articles for Creation (AfC) process, and collaborative ethos. Thanks so much for any help or guidance you can offer! Have a great 2025 and beyond. Thanks again. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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