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			== Redirect suppression ==
	== Keith Richards lead revert ==

			Hi FlightTime. While I was looking at some file moves, I noticed that you still almost always rename file without leaving behind a redirect. Per ], redirect suppression is permitted only for redirects that would have otherwise been eligible for speedy deletion. (Indeed, "a pattern of using the permission to suppress redirects that would not have been eligible for one of the criteria for speedy deletion" is a ground for revocation per ]#3.) As I ] over a year ago, there used to be a boldly added redirect-suppression criterion ] (link to an old page version) for "Moving little-used files when all uses have been manually changed to the new title (])" from 2019 to 2022, but it was removed because ] to deleting/suppressing these redirects, so it didn't have the consensus necessary to be included in a ].
	Hello. No idea why you reverted and why you might think , among other things, such as fannish POV, think what songs keith sang live are lead worth, you’re invited and encouraged to discuss on the talk page so your reverts is better understood and comity is preserved. This is how is it preferably should not fo: you revert a second time, then I do. At that point a 3rd revert is edit warring. Let’s avoid that and presume good faith and no desire by either party to take ownership. ] (]) 19:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

			Additionally, when you rename files without leaving a redirect, it seems that you sometimes request deletion of existing redirects for the file as ]. However, that criterion explicitly excludes "Redirects that were broken as a result of a page move or retargeting (these should instead be retargeted to their target's new name), except where ] speedy deletion would then immediately apply if they were fixed (e.g., redirects to articles that have been ])". For example, ] and ] were therefore ineligible for G8.

			With that in mind, could you tell me what ] (or equivalently ]), if any, each of the following suppressed move redirects (to pick a few) would fall into?
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			] ] 03:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

			:Sorry, I don't see the problem here. If there are no incoming important links I do not create needless redirects, if a redirect exist that no longer has a target I request deletion, however I do see your point about redirecting the existing redirect to the new target. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 01:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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Redirect suppression

Hi FlightTime. While I was looking at some file moves, I noticed that you still almost always rename file without leaving behind a redirect. Per WP:PMRC, redirect suppression is permitted only for redirects that would have otherwise been eligible for speedy deletion. (Indeed, "a pattern of using the permission to suppress redirects that would not have been eligible for one of the criteria for speedy deletion" is a ground for revocation per WP:PMRR#3.) As I noted to you over a year ago, there used to be a boldly added redirect-suppression criterion PMRC#10 (link to an old page version) for "Moving little-used files when all uses have been manually changed to the new title (WP:CSD#G6)" from 2019 to 2022, but it was removed because there was substantial opposition to deleting/suppressing these redirects, so it didn't have the consensus necessary to be included in a criterion for speedy deletion.

Additionally, when you rename files without leaving a redirect, it seems that you sometimes request deletion of existing redirects for the file as G8. However, that criterion explicitly excludes "Redirects that were broken as a result of a page move or retargeting (these should instead be retargeted to their target's new name), except where R2 speedy deletion would then immediately apply if they were fixed (e.g., redirects to articles that have been draftified)". For example, File:CHowan.png and File:TaiwanBeer Leopards.webp were therefore ineligible for G8.

With that in mind, could you tell me what criterion for speedy deletion (or equivalently redirect suppression), if any, each of the following suppressed move redirects (to pick a few) would fall into?

SilverLocust 💬 03:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't see the problem here. If there are no incoming important links I do not create needless redirects, if a redirect exist that no longer has a target I request deletion, however I do see your point about redirecting the existing redirect to the new target. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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