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| == Undiscussed page moves and hijacking attempts by TSJ/Bensebgli/Anujror sockfarms == | |||
| I saw that you blocked the TSJ's range and protected the redirects. I'm wondering if it's possible to undo the damage they've done by moving these long standing redirects by renaming back to their original name or merging their histories or deleting them. I tried but I got a error that states "page of that name already exists". These are the redirects that I'm talking about. | |||
| *] was moved to ] by {{noping|Varoon Punia}} and then moved to ] by {{noping|Ravish Dhankar}} (TSJ sock). | |||
| *] was moved to ] by {{noping|Vinuraj Solanki}} and was subsequently hijacked as a ] related article by {{noping|Santosh Semwal Uttarkashi}}. (Both TSJ socks). | |||
| *] was moved to ] by Vinuraj Solanki.. | |||
| *] was moved to ] by Vinuraj Solanki. | |||
| *] moved to ] by Vinuraj Solanki. | |||
| *] to ] by {{noping|Salimbhatt234}} . | |||
| *] was moved to ] by {{noping|Akshay Rotela}}. . | |||
| *] was moved to ] by Salimbhatt234 . | |||
| *] was an accepted ] submission and served as a redirect to ] ,it was later moved to ] and then to ] by Akshay Rotela , and was subsequently hijacked by a sock from the Bensebgli group. . | |||
| *] was moved to ] by {{noping|Chotu singhaniya}}. | |||
| *] was moved to ] by Chotu singhaniya . | |||
| *](a redirect to ]) was moved to ] and then to ] by {{noping|Dhirendra Sengar}}. | |||
| *] was moved to ] and then to ] by {{noping|Kaljibhai Mer}}.. | |||
| These are the ones that I've encountered, I'm certain there are many more such redirects . <span style="font-family:'forte'">] <b>(])</b></span> 06:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :Will take a look in the next 24h. Feel free to add to the list in the meantime. Cheers ] (]) 07:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::{{reply|Ratnahastin}} Done except for ] / ] because in that case I couldn't figure out where the article actually belongs and what its content (if anything) should be; several sockfarms seem to be involved; and, a few good-faith editors have weighed in (likely w/o being aware of the socking issues)making it ineligible for G5. I have protected the two pages so that non-sock knowledgeable editors can fix the content as they see fit. | |||
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| ::Let me know if I missed something or erred somewhere in handling the above list. Cheers. ] (]) 01:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Thanks, can you have a look at these redirect moves too? | |||
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| ::*] > ] <span style="font-family:'forte'">] <b>(])</b></span> 06:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::These are from ]/]/] sock group. | |||
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| <span style="font-family:'forte'">] <b>(])</b></span> 06:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Thanks. Will take a look as and when I am procrastinating from other tasks. :) ] (]) 17:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: I've cleaned up most of the first group of pages where a redirect was hijacked by an unrelated subject. I wonder if some ] entries would be useful here, i.e <code><nowiki>.*koli.* <moveonly></nowiki></code> would block any attempts to move a page to a title containing the word "koli" (case insensitive) by anyone who is not in the ], ] or ] groups. ] ] 21:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::''Much'' appreciated {{u|Pppery}}! | |||
| :::::: I have ] our a bit but thanks for setting up the title blacklist and if there is anything more that can be done, feel free to get in touch by email. Cheers. ] (]) 22:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{reply|Wikifulness}} I have submitted your draft for review so that an AFC regular can take a look, provide you feedback, and move it mainspace when ready. You can continue to make improvements to the draft in the meantime. For example, on a spot check not all the facts in each para seem to match up with the specific reference cited at the the the para's end. You should take another look and make sure that everything is verifiable and properly cited. Cheers. ] (]) 02:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| {{Re|Abecedare}} Thanks for your kind attention. From Wikifulness <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:16, July 7, 2024 (UTC)</small> | |||
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| Ratnahastin has an anti-BJP and pro-INC bias, and engage in edit war. Their edits are a mix of content removal (sourced), POV pushing, censoring, and misrepresentation of sources. Refer the edit history and talk page of ] in early April this year, also check the edit warring in ] from 31 March where the user tag-teamed with Rzvas for content removal without even providing a valid explanation. The problem in those articles still prevails.--] (]) 16:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :IP, at a quick glance the edits at the two articles you mentioned appear to be routine content disputes that can and should be settled through talkpage discussion or ]; I cannot determine if you have tried that approach while editing through another IP or account. If there is anything particular you are concerned about, you'll need to be more specific (ie, provide ] etc), and ] or ] may be a better venue to ensure a broader and more timely response. Pinging {{u|The Doom Patrol }} who was involved in both those disputes in case they wish to follow up on this complaint at those boards. Cheers. ] (]) 17:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | <blockquote>When he took up his hat to go, he gave one long look round the library. Then he turned ... (and Saxon took advantage of this to wag his way in and join the party), and said, "It's a rare privilege, the free entry of a book chamber like this. I'm hoping ... that you are not insensible of it." </blockquote> | |||
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| == Regarding long ongoing vandalism in Maratha Confederacy article == | |||
| ]] 04:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| A user ] is repeatedly removing sourced content (WP:RS) from ] article without any valid reason. He is telling any editor to have a discussion or consensus if they wanna add any information in the article. Moreover he is not accepting the statement of reliable sources and when I am asking him to provide any sources for support of his statement or views he isn't (see this ). The article prior to my most recent edits has numerous failed sources and wrong information in the lead, when i am correcting it, he is reverting my edits, removing wrong information and changing it to correct information doesn't require consensus or discussion. I have even quoted from the sources so that other editors could easily verify it. Kindly see to it. | |||
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| Regards ] (]) 01:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{reply|Mohammad Umar Ali|PadFoot2008 }} I don't know offhand which of your preferred is superior or has consensus but I can second the advice {{u| Flemmish Nietzsche}} has offered several times on the page (eg and ) that edit-warring and arguing about what the article lede should state ''while'' the discussions are ongoing (or on hiatus) is unproductive. Until clear consensus is established, any "correction" you may make to the article is going to be unstable. So I would suggest that: | |||
| :# Get back to the article talkpage, and use ] if needed | |||
| :# Break up the problem into addressable chunks because it is unlikely that you will be able to settle all the differences seen in at one go. | |||
| :# Also consider whether all that detail belongs in the article lede (again, as Flemmish Nietzsche ) | |||
| :# Stop reverting each other in the meantime! | |||
| :Note that if the current conduct continues, page protection or page blocks are likely. Hopefully, that won't be necessary though. Cheers. ] (]) 02:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::That ] was just about one line and Flemmish didn't remove it after I added it but the rest of what I added see this is supported by reliable sources. While the previous version prior to my edit has wrong information, it's that sources say one this but lead contains entirely different information. I already had a discussion with him but he is providing no sources random statements of any user can't be included in the argument. The main problem is that he isn't accepting information stated by reliable sources nor he is giving any reliable sources for support of his claim. So please help me out. ] (]) 02:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Also I wanted to point out one more thing, Padfoot often ignores the discussion once he revert my edits you could see this from the many discussions me and Padfoot had on article's talk page. Now as he has restored the previous version he will likely not answer or delay the discussion. ] (]) 03:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{reply|Mohammad Umar Ali}} reading the discussions on the talkage, it is difficult for an outside observer to even determine what proposed addition or deletion is being argued over in which section. That is why I suggested the above steps. That way, even if you/PadFoot2008 cannot see eye to eye, you can point to the specific section where the particular edit was discussed and ''other'' discussants weighed in on one side. ] (]) 03:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I have asked him ] now, if he answers that well and fine but I am sure he can't so he will ignore my msg that's the problem. Just please ensure he discusses that specific points nothing else. ] (]) 03:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::The thing which started the whole situation was PadFoot's rewrite of the entire lead which many people did not receive well but PadFoot reverted and responded to with "the lead was too long", despite that a deletion of the last paragraph in the former lead, which was indisputably not necessary for the lead, would shorten it enough. MuA (Mohammad Umar Ali) has since fought over the inclusion of different areas of greatest extent of the Marathas' borders (farther south and north than the ones in the lead prior to PadFoot's rewrite), which have peculiarly gotten increasingly southward throughout this dispute to . There has also been disputes over the neutrality of PadFoots new lead, which has stayed (I personally don't really care either way, except for the border situation which I think it would be better just to stay what the stable borders were) as of now. The first talk page discussion on this dispute was "WP:RAJ claim misunderstood by Rawn3012"; and has continued in most of the following discussions. ] (]) 04:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Thanks for the background, Flemish. I tried to read-through the that have been made since the page-move but the diff is hard to follow. Barring support for mass-revert, which I haven't seen so far, the best course forward may be to address any proposed changes on their merit without regarding the current version as necessarily having consensus behind it either. Cheers. ] (]) 02:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| =={{noping|Helping Birds}}== | |||
| They seem like a sock of Thakor Sumantsinhji Jhala, for example see this edit war over a redirect hijacking between them and an IP , I think they were edit warring while logged out with themselves to create an illusion of them not being TSJ because they reverted the IP only a minute later. | |||
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| * <span style="font-family:'forte'">] <b>(])</b></span> 15:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :Yup, they ''could'' have been edit-warring with themselves. There are so many LTAs in the caste, esp. Rajput, area that it is hard to be sure of who's who and what mental games they are trying. Blockworthy in any case. ] (]) 15:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| </div></div> ] (]) 08:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :: It seems my suspicions were correct , they indeed are a sock of TSJ. <span style="font-family:'forte'">] <b>(])</b></span> 04:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Would you have a look at ]? I'm thinking they are the return of ] (sock of User:Vinayvinyill) who you blocked yesterday. Their account was created today and they have the same focus on Darshan, same interest in adding/improving photos, same habit of going to user's talk pages to ask them (while pinging others) for improvements to be made. Thanks, ] (]) 12:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Iam not a sock, First time I create wiki , when I start to edit, first I see all users how they are contributing to article, so I add their reference, If any doubts me, investigate me I can clarify all your doubts. | |||
| :Thanks ] (]) 12:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :{{reply|Zinnober9}} Thanks for spotting this/ Blocked as ]. ] (]) 13:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you! ] (]) 16:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Duck again. ] ] (]) 15:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{bnt}}. ] (]) 15:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :: for ]. Sigh. ] (]) 13:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Blocked. ] (]) 15:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Another duck. Note the similarities of and . Reordered it a little, but same focus, same phrasing, same links. ] (]) 11:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Nevermind, Bbb23 got them. Thanks all the same! ] (]) 12:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::{{u|Bbb23}} is omniscient. :) ] (]) 17:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello wiki admin, i found the sock of ], ] is pushing koli POV <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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| Making the protection indefinite seems like overkill, Somehow i doubt this is going to be a controversial topic in a year ] (]) 20:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{reply|Trade}} Indefinite does not mean forever. Things will hopefully settle down although it's too soon to know exactly when since there is so much real life uncertainty due to the unknowns of the case itself, the upcoming elections etc. If and when the on-wiki activity/disruption falls, the protection at this and related articles can be lowered by asking the admins who applied the protection or posting at ]. Cheers. ] (]) 20:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| == Sock/NOTHERE user == | |||
| <br />] (]) 01:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)<br /><br /> | |||
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| Hi Abecedare, I hope you're doing well. I would like to request action against this user {{noping|SantwinderSingh}} who is vandalizing various pages-, , . This user is also a sock of ; all these accounts are being operated by a user who for the past 2 years, has been a menace in various South Asian related pages, they've been vandalizing pages through IPs which geolocate to Italy, making random changes to census figures, aggrandizing their religion and the Punjabi language, and trying to engulf various sects as part of his religion. After this , where many of their ranges were blocked from the pages they often target, the user switched to using accounts. SantwinderSingh is clearly this user's sock account. ] (]) 18:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{reply|Southasianhistorian8}} Would you mind adding this to the ] so that there is a consolidated record of the sockmaster? Pinging {{noping|Dreamy Jazz}} from there may also help, esp. if the new account is still editing from Italy. At a quick glance the edits to ] look suspicious but will need to take a deeper look before I can act; will do so in the next day or so. Cheers. ] (]) 18:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| {{clear}}<!-- From template:Happy New Year fireworks --> ] (]) 01:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm sorry, I should have clarified, while I'm certain the account is a sock of GRP, the account is disruptive enough to warrant a NOTHERE block, so I don't think admins should go through the trouble of doing a sock investigation, or at least a behavioural evidence check, especially when this case involves hundreds of IPs over the course of 2 years. A block for persistent disruption was what I was hoping for. ] (]) 19:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==Proposal== | |||
| :::A look through their edits makes me even more inclined to think that {{noping|SantwinderSingh}} is indeed a sock of {{u|GuruRavidasPuttar}} but for now I have blocked them from article space to stop their disruption while leaving open the opportunity for them to use talkpages to present sources and explanation for their future edits. Have also ECPed ]. ] could use some more eyes. ] (]) 00:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Hey Abe, please have a look here . ''']''' ] ''']''' 10:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thanks Abecedare. ] (]) 00:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Request to increase protection == | |||
| Misplaced Pages articles such as ] and ] are being vandalised by an IP. Can u please increase protection of both the pages. ]] 17:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :{{reply|Hashid Khan}} I have semi-protected the article for a month to stop the repeated unexplained deletion and to encourage discussion of any issues on the talkpage. That said, on a quick glance, some of the article's content and sources do seem iffy and require a deeper review from knowledgeable editors. For example, by is unlikely to qualify as reliable source. This can be discussed on the article talkpage and hopefully, the IP will participate and spell out their particular objections. Cheers. ] (]) 17:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Just so you're aware, Hashid Khan is himself a sockmaster and likely a sock as well; the former claim is already and the latter is . For some reason, Hashid Khan was indeffed for disruptive editing but was unblocked via an unblock request even when there was already a sock likely confirmed to him. Even if he is not confirmed to R2dra in the latter report he should still be indeffed for sockpuppetry, no? The vast majority of users going to admins talk pages and requesting protection or blocking for a Indian milhist related issue are themselves socks who have some greater motive, and I don't feel this case is an exception. ] (]) 17:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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