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Hello, Richard,

I had an edit conflict when I was trying to close this discussion. But then I refreshed the screen and I saw you had closed this AFD with almost the same comment I had written out! Sometimes it's good to see that another discussion closer has come to the same opinion that you have. I mean, the all "Deletes" and all "Keeps" discussions are simple compared to ones like this where there are a variety of different outcomes favored.

And even though I hadn't received any complaints on my User talk page, I was getting the message that I'm too quick to relist mixed discussions like this one so I'm closing more AFDs with a "No consensus" closure than I did several months ago. I always thought that no participant is satisfied with a No consensus closure but often that's an accurate reflection of the conversation that has been going on for the past week(s).

I hope you had a restful summer if you live in the Northern Hemisphere! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 17:23, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

:Great minds think alike, of course. With the divided positions and no new commentary after the second relist, it was hard to do anything else. A third relist is typically just delaying the inevitable. It used to be that even a second relist was unusual, but over time it seems like participation in AfD has dropped, so one or two relists to drum up enough participation is more common now. --] (]) 22:07, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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== Chanel Ayan ==

Hi RL0919. Would you mind taking a look at ]? You deleted it back in January 2020 per ], but it was recreated a few days ago. If the recreation is essentially no different than the version you deleted, then it probably would qualify for ]. If it's significantly different, then the {{tl|Old Afd multi}} template on the article's talk page might need updating to reflect that the recreation is not the same as what was deleted. FWIW, there's nothing in the latest version's page history to indicate that this was refunded via a ] discussion, and it appears to just be a new recreation using the same name. -- ] (]) 01:24, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

:{{Re|Marchjuly}} The new version does have different text, and more important, a number of new source citations with at least some that appear to be better quality sources than what was in the deleted version. So it looks like a legitimate new creation that should not be subject to ] deletion. But it was a good call to have it checked. --] (]) 04:24, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you for taking a look. I only stumbled upon the article because of the infobox image and then noticed the "Afd multi" template on the talk page. Not sure what to do about that template since it technically no longer seems applicable. Is a history merge usually done in the case of recreations such as this? -- ] (]) 04:31, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
:::The new article doesn’t seem to be based on the old, so restoring the old history wouldn’t be appropriate. In this kind of case, the old AFD record just stays there to document what happened to the old version. It doesn’t require that anything particular should be done to the new article. The only reason to remove it would be if this was a different subject with the same name, but this is the same subject just with a better article. --] (]) 05:35, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

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== Article for Deletion ==

Respected Sir, My two articles, one on Rajeshree Singhania and other on Rabinarayan Acharaya was deleted. It is requested to move back the article to draft space. I am a new to Misplaced Pages editing and I moved the article the article to main space as I felt that I am permitted to do it after 90 days. Sir, I have put efforts for both article. I request you kind consideration to move back the article to draft space so that I can do more efforts to improve the articles in accordance with Misplaced Pages guidelines. ] (]) 16:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

:{{Re|Neelesh Pandiyath}} I can restore the draft about ] for you, as long as you understand that it should be improved with ] that provide information about her, not just things that she has written herself or mentions of her name, and this should be done ''before'' moving the draft back to a regular article. The best thing is to submit the draft for review and let the reviewer move it if they believe it has enough sourcing. When you say "Rabinarayan Acharaya", I assume you probably mean Rabinarayan Acharya? I can't find a deleted article called "Rabinarayan Acharaya", but a typo for the common name/title ']' seems likely. Assuming I'm right and you want me to restore ] as a draft, then the same advice applies about when/how to move it back to an article. In both cases, if you move the same text back to an article without significant improvements, they are subject to ] for "Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion" (see ]).
:If you could please reply to confirm that you understand (and whether I am right about the typo), I will then restore both pages as drafts. (FYI to ], who is the admin who deleted ]. I assume you won't mind if I restore and draftify in this situation.) ] (]) 17:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
::Yep, that's fine. I'd just add, Neelesh Pandiyath, that both articles were deleted because editors felt these people weren't notable (i.e. that they just weren't eligible for a Misplaced Pages article right now), and that's ]. Unless there are good sources that the editors in the deletion discussion weren't aware of, it may just be too soon for these people to have a Misplaced Pages article right now. ] (]) 18:46, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Respected Sir, I understood. I made mistake by directly moving to main space. I apologise for the same. ] (]) 11:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
::Respected Sir, I understood your esteemed directions and will comply to your directions. Kindly give chance to improve the article. Further I will not move article to main space directly ] (]) 11:10, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Neelesh Pandiyath}} I have restored and draftified the articles for you, since both deleting administrators have agreed on that, in case doing so may save you some waiting time. ] (]) 15:30, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks. --] (]) 16:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
:::::Thank you very much Sir ] (]) 18:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you very much Sir ] (]) 18:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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== Marvel character sources ==

Thank you for finding sources for Chameleon. Do you see anything for ] or ]? ] and possibly several others might be salvageable at DRV if you can find something for him as well. ] (]) 20:36, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
:Well, Boomerang appears in the same three books I first mentioned in the Chameleon AfD. Abner Jenkins/Beetle appears in two of them. The Ox only appears in one (''500 Comicbook Villains''), so if those books are any indication then he is the most obscure of the lot. --] (]) 22:18, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
::OK that's good, thanks for taking a look. :) ] (]) 22:29, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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==Gary Wales Actor==
Hey, RL0919

I hope your well, this is Gary Wales, i believe the page that was created for me was removed by yourself, is there any way to get that restored or moved to Draft to improve - ] ]

Thank you for your time
Gary <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:03, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</small>

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::{{Re|RL0919}} Thank you so much for that, Im Daniel Hicks, Gary's Assistant as Gary couldn't access his account due to it being so close. I have made a few edits, i've added his awards, i did try to add more references but it wasn't letting me. Any advice you could give me that would be great, again thank you for brining back the article as a draft. We hope it will be published at some stage. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:05, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</small>

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::::@]yes I did manage to that. Thank you, I have stated on the page in the talk section and also on my own page the affiliation. Could you check and make sure I did it right?
::::thank you again ] (]) 19:40, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

:::::{{Re|DanielHicksAss}} The template on the Draft talk page looks right. For your own user page, that template doesn't work – it is made for Talk spaces, not User spaces. You can use the {{Tl|User COI}} template instead. --] (]) 19:47, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::@] Hello Richard, I hope your well. I have updated the Article as much as i can. Let me know what you think? Do you think its ready for publication, or do you think it will require more? ] ] (]) 14:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@]Hello, I hope your well, Happy New Year to you. I have now submitted the article. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated ] (]) 01:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Atlas Shrugged ==

Hi, I do not understand why you keep deleting my input on the Atlas Shrugged page... The libertarians and conservatives site the work as an influence do in fact subscribe to "rational selfishness," the philosophy of the book.... So why delete that fact? ] (]) 19:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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::I would have responded to the talk page discussion, had I known it existed. I meant no disrespect to you or the page, but the point I made is self evident. If they cite a book's philosophy as an influence, the meaning of that influence should be mentioned. That said, I will look for a credible source that shows this self evident fact. If I find it, I will share it. --DMW ] (]) 17:29, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::P.S. ... but given the self evident nature of my comment, given the later mention of the philosophy later in this article, in the meantime, I implore you to reinstate my edit. --DMW ] (]) 17:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::here you go... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-this-is-what-happens-when-you-take-ayn-rand-seriously ] (]) 17:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Reliable sources document that some people have said that they were influenced by ''Atlas Shrugged'', a lengthy novel that contains multiple ideas. But you have picked one of those ideas and proclaimed on their behalf that it is what they meant. That ''interpretation'' of what the influence was is not "self-evident". The opinion column you just linked is a better source than than your own imagination, but still well below what we should be looking for. Such columns are generally ], especially when they are not from a recognized expert on the subject and most especially not for claims about living people. --] (]) 22:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Yes the book does contain multiple ideas, but that response is a bit disingenuous, as the main thrust of the book is the philosophy of rational selfishness. If you think there is another more major theme in the book, I wish you would put it on the wiki page, as the page itself states rational selfishness as the main theme. Why the reluctance to put the theme of the book, which has been cited as an influence to these conservative and libertarian thinkers, next to the comment of its influence?
::::Thank you for continued dialogue. ] (]) 09:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, RL0919! Your work on Harriet Tubman has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Misplaced Pages. I hereby award you this Featured Article Save Award, or FASA. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 16:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hayden Moss

How is the outcome of the AFD re-nomination on this article different from that of an AFD nomination on another article? Both don't have input from others, yet the outcome is different. George Ho (talk) 17:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

The obvious answer is that two different people closed the discussions, and human judgment can vary. As far as I can see, I would have closed the other discussion the same way I closed this one.
That said, I would also suggest that opening discussions for these situations may be counterproductive to begin with. The previous AfDs were a decade or more in the past, and much closer to when the subjects appeared on TV. The article creators are blocked for socking. Considering that no one bothered to comment on the AfDs, I strongly suspect that if you had just redirected the articles without opening a discussion about it, probably no one would have objected. Less work for you; no work for AfD participants and closers. --RL0919 (talk) 18:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Isn't redirecting a previously-nominated article kinda risky, especially right now? Furthermore, as I feared, any Survivor-fanatic editor would undo the redirecting and then restore the article back to as-is without further ado. I don't wanna take the closed AFD discussion to review yet, but I figured you'll stand by your decision, right? George Ho (talk) 19:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Almost forgot: AFD results... and even DRV ones are easier to enforce and more enforceable IMO than WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS. George Ho (talk) 19:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Your comments make me more comfortable with the choice to close as no consensus, not less. If you are so sure that someone would object to a redirect by you, then putting an admin stamp on a redirect based on a zero-input AfD would be placing a mantle of "enforceability" on a change that doesn't deserve it. --RL0919 (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I don't want to go through the hassle of filing a report at ANI and I saw that you were active recently so I wanted to ask you to possibley block the IP 91.124.53.23. If you look at their talk page (and talk page history) they are clearly making personal attacks despite being warned multiple times and they have also threatened to do sockpuppetry. Thanks. GoldRomean (talk) 21:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@GoldRomean: Already reported at AIV and blocked. If they do sock, you can file a request at WP:RFPP. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks for your help (and RL0919 sorry for wasting ur time). GoldRomean (talk) 21:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Vivian Jenna Wilson

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Vivian Jenna Wilson. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Rei (talk) 20:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I was surprised in your closure statement that you stated that there were mostly Delete and Redirect "votes" as it looked to me like more editors were arguing for Keep than Delete. Liz 23:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
By my count (not the appellant's), 18 participants preferred redirection, 4 more were open to deletion or redirection, and 6 (including presumably the nominator) preferred deletion. This is easily more than the 17 clear keeps. (Two others did not provide a clear preference; one of those appeared to be arguing against notability, while the other was clearly against redirection but did not indicate an opinion about notability or keep vs. delete.) So just under 38% of the clear positions preferred keeping. --RL0919 (talk) 02:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
I just came to remove my comment as I said something similar at the Deletion Review. Liz 03:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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Atlas Shrugged

Hi, I do not understand why you keep deleting my input on the Atlas Shrugged page... The libertarians and conservatives site the work as an influence do in fact subscribe to "rational selfishness," the philosophy of the book.... So why delete that fact? 2600:8800:4021:DE00:836:FE33:DAE6:8908 (talk) 19:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

You may believe so, but if you want to insert such claims into Misplaced Pages you should supply reliable secondary sources that have reached this conclusion. And then be prepared to make a case that they are representative of a common viewpoint that that warrants inclusion. So far, you haven't even responded to the Talk page discussion that has been open since March. --RL0919 (talk) 05:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
I would have responded to the talk page discussion, had I known it existed. I meant no disrespect to you or the page, but the point I made is self evident. If they cite a book's philosophy as an influence, the meaning of that influence should be mentioned. That said, I will look for a credible source that shows this self evident fact. If I find it, I will share it. --DMW 2600:8800:4021:DE00:3C7D:CD03:E8EC:64CB (talk) 17:29, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
P.S. ... but given the self evident nature of my comment, given the later mention of the philosophy later in this article, in the meantime, I implore you to reinstate my edit. --DMW 2600:8800:4021:DE00:3C7D:CD03:E8EC:64CB (talk) 17:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
here you go... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-this-is-what-happens-when-you-take-ayn-rand-seriously 2600:8800:4021:DE00:3C7D:CD03:E8EC:64CB (talk) 17:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Reliable sources document that some people have said that they were influenced by Atlas Shrugged, a lengthy novel that contains multiple ideas. But you have picked one of those ideas and proclaimed on their behalf that it is what they meant. That interpretation of what the influence was is not "self-evident". The opinion column you just linked is a better source than than your own imagination, but still well below what we should be looking for. Such columns are generally not good sources for facts, especially when they are not from a recognized expert on the subject and most especially not for claims about living people. --RL0919 (talk) 22:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Yes the book does contain multiple ideas, but that response is a bit disingenuous, as the main thrust of the book is the philosophy of rational selfishness. If you think there is another more major theme in the book, I wish you would put it on the wiki page, as the page itself states rational selfishness as the main theme. Why the reluctance to put the theme of the book, which has been cited as an influence to these conservative and libertarian thinkers, next to the comment of its influence?
Thank you for continued dialogue. 2600:8800:4021:DE00:C0D8:2083:8D8A:3C65 (talk) 09:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
The opening paragraph of the article says that the novel "explores a number of philosophical themes ... including reason, property rights, individualism, libertarianism and capitalism, and depicts what Rand saw as the failures of governmental coercion" and also mentions Rand's own description of the theme as "the role of man's mind in existence". The section on Themes has four subsections. It does discuss her support for egoism, but also that the novel "caricatures fascism, socialism, communism, and any state intervention in society", and other topics addressed in the novel including ones mentioned above such as property rights and individualism. When any individual says they were influenced by the novel, they could mean any of these or even some other element that isn't discussed in our article. If Misplaced Pages were in the business of drawing inferences about what people mean (without using a source that states that conclusion first), it would make more sense to infer that conservative politicians who overtly oppose socialism and communism are likely to be referring to the novel's critique of those, or to its endorsements of property rights and capitalism. It seems much less likely that politicians who are mostly self-declared believers in Christianity – a religion that endorses altruism and is founded on belief in a divine act of self-sacrifice – are indicating their support for Rand's very un-Christian views on egoism. But in any case, Misplaced Pages is not in the business of such inferences. --RL0919 (talk) 01:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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