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| == Aggressive, unilateral, territorial behavior == | |||
| == Removing others' comments == | |||
| Dear Mr. Ollie, I will report you for vandalism if you continue to remove posts on the Turing Test page that cite the work of Gonçalves. This is substantial peer-reviewed academic work that has appeared in top history, philosophy, and science journals, including Nature, and yet you call it citation spam. You do not seem to care about the content and the subject matter. Apparently you are not here to learn or to help others learn, but to control Misplaced Pages pages, your rented 1m2 of power. ] (]) 12:29, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Please do not do . I've been around for more than a year; see for my previous IP range. ] (]) 12:14, 13 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:It is even worse, as I've just seen. Now you removed other, years-old citations of the work of Gonçalves. If you remove it again, you will be reported. ] (]) 12:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ::I'm watching the situation and neither of you is covered in glory this morning. Work it out in ] I just created. ] (]) 12:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::@] you do realise that the account is adding their own works, am I correct? ] ] 16:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I was not aware of that until the discussion on page talk commenced. ] (]) 19:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | ::My edits are plainly not vandalism. Also, please don't refer to yourself in the third person, it is quite misleading. ] (]) 14:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| :::I agree with that assessment but in the moment I was reacting to the back and forth. ] (]) 19:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I can definitely understand that. I'll move to the article talk page faster next time, rather than getting drawn into back and forth on user talk. ] (]) 19:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I value your edits and have reason to expect reasonable behavior when I see your date stamp. Thank you. Don't be shy to point out when I'm not seeing a situation clearly. I'd much rather have someone I know ''in my face'' than fail to comprehend their need for assistance. ] (]) 20:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Mindfulness is based on the teachings of the Buddha. Why are you promoting misinformation on Misplaced Pages> == | |||
| ::Then why did you say in your last edit summary "your last IP is clearly blocked"? See , it's not currently blocked and never has been. ] (]) 12:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Mindfullness is one part of the eightfold noble path taught by the Buddha. It is not derived from Chan, Guan or tibetan buddhist teachings as the original article claimed. In fact Chan, Guan and tibetan buddhism originate from the teachings of the Buddha in Pali. | |||
| == Thanks == | |||
| You appear to have no knowledge or interest in Buddhism. Why are you removing edits on subjects you have no clue about? Keep- this up and you'll be reported. | |||
| For undoing my accidental rollback. I was riding on a bus (very uncomfortably) and apparently fell asleep while my watchlist was open, else I would have noticed it at the time. —] 11:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| https://tricycle.org/article/satipatthana-sutta-mindfulness/ ] (]) 18:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Major Depressive Disorder == | |||
| :On Misplaced Pages we follow what the cited sources say, which in this case are books from major academic publishers. Do not change the article in ways they do not reflect the cited source. Self published blog posts such as you posted here do not undermine those sources. Kindly take this up on the article's associated talk page - not on user talk pages, and not in edit summaries while edit warring. ] (]) 18:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| They can't all be un reliable sources, there is no point in removing everything. I've searched the best I could. Some are good scientific articles. ] (]) 14:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC) Please, help me selecting which sources can be of use. Thank you. ] (]) 14:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==Jinnifer on WikiQuote== | |||
| :Please read ] thoroughly, it has already been linked in your own talk page. None the sources you used met that standard. Requirements for medical sources are very high, even sources in peer reviewed medical journals will often not meet them. ] (]) 18:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Just FYI... I'm not sure how often you check your WikiQuote page but Jinnifer is using an anonymous address to harass you in to making changes for them on Misplaced Pages via your talk page. This was after multiple failed attempts to get me to do it for them. ] (]) 03:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::I did read, it's a complicated set of rules, but it's hard to believe not even one source was valid. It's understandable the requirements for medical sources are very high, but articles written by doctors or by colleges are up to meet the standards, they have both acceptance by the community and the academy. How would one know if sources in peer reviewed medical journals don't meet them? ] (]) 12:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{Tq| but it's hard to believe not even one source was valid.}} And yet that was the case. {{Tq|but articles written by doctors or by colleges are up to meet the standards}}, the standard is higher than that. {{Tq|How would one know if sources in peer reviewed medical journals don't meet them?}} By reading ] throughly, which clearly states that reviews are used and other types of medical sources such as single studies are not. ] (]) 14:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I can't distinguish between valid and unvalid sources, even after reading MEDRS. My sources were of all kinds and neither kind was valid, how? How can Harvard not be accepted as valid? Why are studies dismissed simply because there aren't any reviews? Some of my sources were based on a medical general opinion, which matches a review. ] (]) 15:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC) PUBMED is not accepted as a source according to Misplaced Pages despite what MEDRS states. If a study uses the scientific method then how are the results subject to confirmation and review? ] (]) 15:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::If you have read MEDRS and are unable to understand the sourcing requirements, I would suggest that you edit on non-medical topics only. ] specifically says that many things on Pubmed do not meet the guideline. My user talk page really is not the place to debate the requirements of MEDRS. If you have further questions about how Misplaced Pages works, I recommend that you ask them at ]. ] (]) 19:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | :Yeah, they like to waste their time in that way. ] (]) 03:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| == Three magi == | |||
| == RosaSubmarine == | |||
| How exactly are these "unreliable sources"? The one travel website had a photo of the tomb's plaque declaring the tradition of Balthazar. You don't have to agree with it, but when there's a plaque at a historical site declaring this tradition, that's a pretty good source in my book. | |||
| ] ] ] 12:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Edit: I am FUMING. You removed information that was ALREADY on the Bazen article BEFORE I EVEN EDITED IT. That information was already on there previously, I just added to it!! People like you are why I hate editing wikipedia now. You can't add information, or even add TO information without someone looking up ALL your previous edits and undoing them!!!! The information on the Bazen article dates back to AT LEAST January. But now that I'VE added to it, what is it not good enough? Isn't an encyclopedia that anyone can edit supposed to share information? Nope, can't do it because of all the clowns gatekeeping on here. I am SO sick of this crap, and I want an explanation as to why you systematically removed information on all those pages.(] (]) 02:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
| :Reviews of tourist attractions (or plaques at tourist attractions) are obviously not reliable sources for biblical history. Feel free to bring this up at ], but I am sure they will tell you the same. ] (]) 02:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Whatever. It's a PHOTO OF A PLAQUE AT THE LOCATION!!!!!!! But I'll let you win because I don't have the energy to fight losing battles. People like you are why this isn't fun for me anymore. Thanks for nothing.(] (]) 02:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
| :::Is THIS (https://www.fondationmagos.com/en/balthazar-le-royaume-daxoum/) a good enough source? This is source number THREE now. If it is, please tell me so I can kindly restore it. Because I WANT this information shared but I refuse to keep making edits that are going to be automatically reverted.(] (]) 02:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
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| :::::Once again, thanks for absolutely nothing.(] (]) 02:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::::You're welcome! PS: ] has two graves, both with very nice plaques and attendant tourism materials. Obviously both cannot be correct. ] (]) 02:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::COOL, too bad Bazen only had one and that has nothing to do with anything. Thanks for the sanctimonious and condescending attitude btw. Definitely shows that you're clearly in this for factual information and not just a power trip.(] (]) 02:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::::::You're welcome again! ] (]) 02:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::I'd just like to close this little interaction by saying that pedantic, petty tyrants like yourself make editing this site a nightmare for regular people. It is the opposite of what this is supposed to be: a neutral encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit. Are you expecting a peer reviewed source for a LOCAL TRADITION? Your demands are unreasonable and spiteful. If you think Jimmy Akin would have an issue with my edits, you need your head examined.(] (]) 02:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::::::::I am expecting a source that meets Misplaced Pages's sourcing guidelines, yes. Thanks for stopping by! ] (]) 02:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::Thanks for continuing to wield power over those you will never meet like a kid who found his dad's gun.(] (]) 02:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::::::::::Remember when you said you were done posting here? Good times! Goodbye, now! ] (]) 02:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::I hope my replies have caused you 1/10 of the aggravation you have caused me on this site.(] (]) 02:46, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
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| :::::::::::::::Misplaced Pages: the 💕 that Mr. Ollie decides who can edit.(] (]) 02:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::::::::::::::Things would certainly go more smoothly around here if that were true! ] (]) 02:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::::::Hey, check it out! A STAMP from Ethiopia with Bazen identified as Balthazar on it! Gee that SURELY is a reliable enough source for his magesty, Mr. Ollie, right? Right? Still not good enough? Okay! | |||
| https://www.fondationmagos.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Etiopia-1024x629.jpg <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> | |||
| ::::::::::::::::::You should really consider reading ] rather than bringing everything that turns up on a Google search to my talk page! This has been fun, but it is time for you to stop posting on my talk page now. Goodbye! - ] (]) 02:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Aggressive, unilateral, territorial behavior
Dear Mr. Ollie, I will report you for vandalism if you continue to remove posts on the Turing Test page that cite the work of Gonçalves. This is substantial peer-reviewed academic work that has appeared in top history, philosophy, and science journals, including Nature, and yet you call it citation spam. You do not seem to care about the content and the subject matter. Apparently you are not here to learn or to help others learn, but to control Misplaced Pages pages, your rented 1m2 of power. Bgonc (talk) 12:29, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- It is even worse, as I've just seen. Now you removed other, years-old citations of the work of Gonçalves. If you remove it again, you will be reported. Bgonc (talk) 12:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm watching the situation and neither of you is covered in glory this morning. Work it out in the talk thread I just created. BusterD (talk) 12:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @BusterD you do realise that the account is adding their own works, am I correct? Doug Weller talk 16:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was not aware of that until the discussion on page talk commenced. BusterD (talk) 19:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @BusterD you do realise that the account is adding their own works, am I correct? Doug Weller talk 16:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- My edits are plainly not vandalism. Also, please don't refer to yourself in the third person, it is quite misleading. MrOllie (talk) 14:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with that assessment but in the moment I was reacting to the back and forth. BusterD (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can definitely understand that. I'll move to the article talk page faster next time, rather than getting drawn into back and forth on user talk. MrOllie (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I value your edits and have reason to expect reasonable behavior when I see your date stamp. Thank you. Don't be shy to point out when I'm not seeing a situation clearly. I'd much rather have someone I know in my face than fail to comprehend their need for assistance. BusterD (talk) 20:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can definitely understand that. I'll move to the article talk page faster next time, rather than getting drawn into back and forth on user talk. MrOllie (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with that assessment but in the moment I was reacting to the back and forth. BusterD (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm watching the situation and neither of you is covered in glory this morning. Work it out in the talk thread I just created. BusterD (talk) 12:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Mindfulness is based on the teachings of the Buddha. Why are you promoting misinformation on Misplaced Pages>
Mindfullness is one part of the eightfold noble path taught by the Buddha. It is not derived from Chan, Guan or tibetan buddhist teachings as the original article claimed. In fact Chan, Guan and tibetan buddhism originate from the teachings of the Buddha in Pali.
You appear to have no knowledge or interest in Buddhism. Why are you removing edits on subjects you have no clue about? Keep- this up and you'll be reported.
https://tricycle.org/article/satipatthana-sutta-mindfulness/ Rottcod (talk) 18:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- On Misplaced Pages we follow what the cited sources say, which in this case are books from major academic publishers. Do not change the article in ways they do not reflect the cited source. Self published blog posts such as you posted here do not undermine those sources. Kindly take this up on the article's associated talk page - not on user talk pages, and not in edit summaries while edit warring. MrOllie (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Jinnifer on WikiQuote
Just FYI... I'm not sure how often you check your WikiQuote page but Jinnifer is using an anonymous address to harass you in to making changes for them on Misplaced Pages via your talk page. This was after multiple failed attempts to get me to do it for them. NJZombie (talk) 03:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, they like to waste their time in that way. MrOllie (talk) 03:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
RosaSubmarine
w:en:Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/KlayCax Doug Weller talk 12:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)