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== RAJPUROHITS undeletion == == revert history ==


Good evening. When I checked my edit history I saw that I had 1 reversion, but to my knowledge I had never been reverted. I think that I may have accidentally self reverted when editing "Registered Mail". I am really proud of my perfect edit quality, is there any way I can delete the revision to keep it perfect? Thank you ] (]) 03:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Hey ! You had deleted the page that I created "RAJPUROHITS" because of the existing disputed page "Rajpurohit". I wish to convey that though the name is similar but there is stark difference between existing page and the new one in terms of content. The existing page has been so heavily eroded due to heavy modifications that it has lost its true form. Due to edit warring and manipulation by people with vested interests and also more protective layers that it has lost authentic content and is difficult to change. I wish to create a fresh page with new information which would be authentic. Kindly undelete and allow me to build a robust content on the topic.
Regards ] (]) 02:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)


:@] {{TPW}} {{non-admin comment}} Not for that reason, no. If it's any reassurance at all, I have one of the biggest edit counts on Misplaced Pages, and my edit quality is far from perfect. People keeping asking me why I'm not an admin, anyways. Mistakes are simply part of being human. ] ] ] 04:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Anshu1799}} I cannot restore the article at its former location because it will just get deleted again under ]. If we created a "fork" of an article every time there was an editorial dispute, we would have hundreds of different versions of many articles. I can, however, restore that version into a ], which you can use as a tool to seek consensus for your changes to the main article. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 07:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::@] Thank you. What are some reasons a reversion can be deleted? ] (]) 07:59, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::@] They're listed here: ], or for more severe cases, ]. ] ] ] 08:02, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::@] Thanks! Could this be used? "RD6. Non-contentious housekeeping including correction of clear and obvious unintended mistakes in previous redactions, changes to redaction based upon communal discussion and clear consensus, adding information to the delete logs, and converting traditional selective deleted edits to RevisionDelete. (The action must not be likely to be contentious or controversial; consult if needed.)" ] (]) 08:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] I can't think of a situation where that would be used. Probably not this one. ] ] ] 08:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::@] Is there any way to fix it? It would bother me to the point of deleting my account and making a new one if I can't. ] (]) 08:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::@] Not only is it incredibly unlikely to be fixable---and even if it is, it's not reasonable to take the time to revision delete every mistake an editor will make---the copyright situation on Misplaced Pages is so your account can't be deleted. The edits you make ''have'' to be attributed. ] ] ] 08:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::@] It's one error that I can reference, and I know how to avoid it in the future, revision delete only needs to be used on one edit in "Registered Mail" because it was my first time adding an infobox and it wasn't showing on the mobile app (even though it was showing on the website version). I think it's reasonable to request an edit reversion once. ] (]) 08:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::@] You might know how to avoid ''this'' kind of mistake, but being human, you are certain to make ''another'' kind of mistake, and another, and another. You'll have to forgive me for disbelieving that you'll only request a rev-deletion for a mistake just this once. ] ] ] 08:47, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::@] True, I am human. However, now that I know that the undo button is actually the revert button, I don't believe I will make this error again. You don't have to take my word for it though, as I'm only asking for one revision delete. ] (]) 09:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::@] Just revert/re-revert. If you simply did that instead of engaging in this discussion, fewer people would've known. Honestly, no one reasonable would've cared even if you accidentally reverted them if you correct the mistake swiftly enough. ] ] ] 11:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::@] I didn't want to give myself more reverts accidentally and didn't know if this was possible. Thanks for the advice. ] (]) 11:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::@] It says I can't due to intermediate conflicting edits. ] (]) 11:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::@] Can you remove the mistake manually, without hitting a button? ] ] ] 13:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::@] Wouldn't my revision count remain at one? that's the problem ] (]) 15:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::@] I don't understand the question. Why does your revision count matter? ] ] ] 20:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::@] that's why I started this thread. I want my revert count to remain perfect because I wasn't reverted for cause. ] (]) 21:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::@] Oh! Even if the edit was revision deleted, the numbers of reverts you'd have would remain unchanged. ] ] ] 23:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{ping|R8cobra}} It's worth noting that even if you ''manually'' revert yourself (edit the page and make a change that exactly undoes a prior edit of yours) it will still tag the old one as "reverted." It's also the case that having a reversion "on your record" doesn't even necessarily mean that you did anything wrong. Reverts happen all of the time across Misplaced Pages.
:::::::::::* I do a lot of RC patrol and revert vandals, who often revert my reversions. My edits therefore show up as reverted.
:::::::::::* If you ever make an edit someone else disagrees with, they might revert it, even if you ultimately are right.
:::::::::::* People tag articles with {{tlx|copyvio-revdel}} to request redaction for copyright reasons. When I complete the request and remove the tag, it shows that their edit introducing the tag was reverted.
:::::::::::My suggestion would be to simply change your perception of the "reverted" tag. It doesn't mean you did anything wrong, and nobody else is going to interpret it that way, either. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 23:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::disappointing, but thanks ] (]) 23:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)


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I came across the article ] and I noticed there are some glaring issues especially with some of it blatantly copying text from sources. Thought I would let you know as these probably need to be removed permanently. ] <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%">]</span> 16:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Darknipples}} Thank you for the award! I assume you are talking about the block I placed on the editor who moved ]? I just happened to randomly run across other page-blanking vandalism by that user while on RC patrol, so I dropped the hammer. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 03:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)


:@] {{tpw}} {{non-admin comment}} You can actually request a revision deletion by using {{tl|Copyvio-revdel}}. It might be quicker to do so. There's even a user script that makes filling it out easier ]. ] ] ] 18:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
== Thank you ==
:{{ping|Imcdc}} It looks like the article has been moved to draftspace for now. Do you have an example of text that was copied from a source? I did a cursory check and couldn't find anything blatant. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 18:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
::Hi,
::The article is no longer in mainspace so it isn't much of an issue now. However here are some examples.
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::"Deepseek is fully funded by High-Flyer and has no plans to fundraise. It focuses on building foundational technology rather than commercial applications and has committed to open sourcing all of its models."
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::"The DeepSeek-R1-Lite-Preview model introduces “chain-of-thought” reasoning"
::"DeepSeek’s new model is available through its web-based chatbot, DeepSeek Chat, where users can experience the model’s capabilities firsthand. However, usage is currently limited to 50 messages per day." This one isn't a complete copy but its just the same text with a few wording changes.
::Honestly the article needs to be ] in my view. ] <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%">]</span> 00:34, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


== ANI ==
Thanks ] (]) 04:21, 6 November 2024 (UTC)


I'm pretty sure I'm not required to notify you but just in case, I mentioned you at ANI so could you have a look at ] and consider weighing in? Thank you. <b style="font-family: Segoe Script;">'']]]''</b> 18:58, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
:No problem, thank you for reporting the user! --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 04:22, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
==Why not semi-protect ]==
They are not going to stop. <span>] <b>(])</b></span> 05:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)


:{{ping|Ratnahastin}} I certainly can. They will then move to a different page. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 05:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|City of Silver}} Thanks for letting me know. I'll take a look. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 19:01, 6 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] == == RevDel on ] ==


Hey, so quick question. Would you be able to explain either here or via email why you revdel'ed an edit summary from an administrator as RD2 ? Given the reason you revdel'ed it, I think it's appropriate to question what kind of grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive edit summary an administrator is making that would require redacting the edit summary. ] <sup>(]) </sup> 21:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Hey, are you able to revoke their TPA? And maybe revdel their TP while you're at it? Thanks ]]<sup>]]</sup> 04:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)


:{{ping|Aydoh8}} Done, thanks for bringing it to my attention! --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 04:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|EggRoll97}} The edit summary was generated by the software when Bishonen moved the page back after a vandal moved it to an egregiously offensive page name. Therefore, that page name showed up in the edit summary. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::Ah, much appreciated. ] <sup>(]) </sup> 22:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|EggRoll97}} No problem. To clarify, the edit summary was {{tq|Bishonen moved page {{redacted}} to User:CFA without leaving a redirect: fixing move vandalism}}. There was no misbehavior on Bishonen's part, this is just what MediaWiki does when you move a page. --Chris &#124; <small>] (])</small> 22:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


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revert history

Good evening. When I checked my edit history I saw that I had 1 reversion, but to my knowledge I had never been reverted. I think that I may have accidentally self reverted when editing "Registered Mail". I am really proud of my perfect edit quality, is there any way I can delete the revision to keep it perfect? Thank you R8cobra (talk) 03:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@R8cobra (talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) Not for that reason, no. If it's any reassurance at all, I have one of the biggest edit counts on Misplaced Pages, and my edit quality is far from perfect. People keeping asking me why I'm not an admin, anyways. Mistakes are simply part of being human. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 04:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horse Thank you. What are some reasons a reversion can be deleted? R8cobra (talk) 07:59, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra They're listed here: Misplaced Pages:Revision deletion#Criteria for redaction, or for more severe cases, Misplaced Pages:Oversight#Policy. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 08:02, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses Thanks! Could this be used? "RD6. Non-contentious housekeeping including correction of clear and obvious unintended mistakes in previous redactions, changes to redaction based upon communal discussion and clear consensus, adding information to the delete logs, and converting traditional selective deleted edits to RevisionDelete. (The action must not be likely to be contentious or controversial; consult if needed.)" R8cobra (talk) 08:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra I can't think of a situation where that would be used. Probably not this one. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 08:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses Is there any way to fix it? It would bother me to the point of deleting my account and making a new one if I can't. R8cobra (talk) 08:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra Not only is it incredibly unlikely to be fixable---and even if it is, it's not reasonable to take the time to revision delete every mistake an editor will make---the copyright situation on Misplaced Pages is so your account can't be deleted. The edits you make have to be attributed. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 08:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses It's one error that I can reference, and I know how to avoid it in the future, revision delete only needs to be used on one edit in "Registered Mail" because it was my first time adding an infobox and it wasn't showing on the mobile app (even though it was showing on the website version). I think it's reasonable to request an edit reversion once. R8cobra (talk) 08:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra You might know how to avoid this kind of mistake, but being human, you are certain to make another kind of mistake, and another, and another. You'll have to forgive me for disbelieving that you'll only request a rev-deletion for a mistake just this once. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 08:47, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses True, I am human. However, now that I know that the undo button is actually the revert button, I don't believe I will make this error again. You don't have to take my word for it though, as I'm only asking for one revision delete. R8cobra (talk) 09:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra Just revert/re-revert. If you simply did that instead of engaging in this discussion, fewer people would've known. Honestly, no one reasonable would've cared even if you accidentally reverted them if you correct the mistake swiftly enough. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 11:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses I didn't want to give myself more reverts accidentally and didn't know if this was possible. Thanks for the advice. R8cobra (talk) 11:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses It says I can't due to intermediate conflicting edits. R8cobra (talk) 11:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra Can you remove the mistake manually, without hitting a button? I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses Wouldn't my revision count remain at one? that's the problem R8cobra (talk) 15:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra I don't understand the question. Why does your revision count matter? I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 20:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses that's why I started this thread. I want my revert count to remain perfect because I wasn't reverted for cause. R8cobra (talk) 21:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra Oh! Even if the edit was revision deleted, the numbers of reverts you'd have would remain unchanged. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 23:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@R8cobra: It's worth noting that even if you manually revert yourself (edit the page and make a change that exactly undoes a prior edit of yours) it will still tag the old one as "reverted." It's also the case that having a reversion "on your record" doesn't even necessarily mean that you did anything wrong. Reverts happen all of the time across Misplaced Pages.
  • I do a lot of RC patrol and revert vandals, who often revert my reversions. My edits therefore show up as reverted.
  • If you ever make an edit someone else disagrees with, they might revert it, even if you ultimately are right.
  • People tag articles with {{copyvio-revdel}} to request redaction for copyright reasons. When I complete the request and remove the tag, it shows that their edit introducing the tag was reverted.
My suggestion would be to simply change your perception of the "reverted" tag. It doesn't mean you did anything wrong, and nobody else is going to interpret it that way, either. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 23:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
disappointing, but thanks R8cobra (talk) 23:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Issues with this article

Hi,

I came across the article DeepSeek AI and I noticed there are some glaring issues especially with some of it blatantly copying text from sources. Thought I would let you know as these probably need to be removed permanently. Imcdc Contact 16:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

@Imcdc (talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) You can actually request a revision deletion by using {{Copyvio-revdel}}. It might be quicker to do so. There's even a user script that makes filling it out easier here. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
@Imcdc: It looks like the article has been moved to draftspace for now. Do you have an example of text that was copied from a source? I did a cursory check and couldn't find anything blatant. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 18:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
The article is no longer in mainspace so it isn't much of an issue now. However here are some examples.
1
"Deepseek is fully funded by High-Flyer and has no plans to fundraise. It focuses on building foundational technology rather than commercial applications and has committed to open sourcing all of its models."
2
"The DeepSeek-R1-Lite-Preview model introduces “chain-of-thought” reasoning"
"DeepSeek’s new model is available through its web-based chatbot, DeepSeek Chat, where users can experience the model’s capabilities firsthand. However, usage is currently limited to 50 messages per day." This one isn't a complete copy but its just the same text with a few wording changes.
Honestly the article needs to be WP:TNT in my view. Imcdc Contact 00:34, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

ANI

I'm pretty sure I'm not required to notify you but just in case, I mentioned you at ANI so could you have a look at WP:ANI#User:Emiya1980 Repeated Edit Warring and consider weighing in? Thank you. City of Silver 18:58, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

@City of Silver: Thanks for letting me know. I'll take a look. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 19:01, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

RevDel on User:CFA

Hey, so quick question. Would you be able to explain either here or via email why you revdel'ed an edit summary from an administrator as RD2 here? Given the reason you revdel'ed it, I think it's appropriate to question what kind of grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive edit summary an administrator is making that would require redacting the edit summary. EggRoll97 21:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@EggRoll97: The edit summary was generated by the software when Bishonen moved the page back after a vandal moved it to an egregiously offensive page name. Therefore, that page name showed up in the edit summary. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Ah, much appreciated. EggRoll97 22:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@EggRoll97: No problem. To clarify, the edit summary was Bishonen moved page (Redacted) to User:CFA without leaving a redirect: fixing move vandalism. There was no misbehavior on Bishonen's part, this is just what MediaWiki does when you move a page. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 22:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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