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:::I had clearly written this in the talk page but here we are aren't we ! I had already requested for an draft page but I am not going to the deletion review again ] (]) 08:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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:::::why do I alwayes have to go to the deletion review... let me make it clear
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== These edits aren't in article space, so are they ok? ==

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/PerspicazHistorian] and see . ] ] 10:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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::I was referring to the "I will learn and work as a Runner (messenger) from one talk page to other." on their talk page and their use of article talk pages to influence articles. But if that's ok, fine. ] ] 08:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I think the hope was that they would use talk pages more rather than disruptively edit articles, so I've got no problem with that. Of course if that becomes disruptive as well, that can always be dealt with going forward. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 08:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::::That makes a lot of sense. Thanks. ] ] 08:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)


== Apology == == Proper use of template ==


Would you care to take a look at the discussion unfolding on ]? Your input is needed.] (]) 23:57, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Seraphimblade
:{{u|Davidbena}}, not sure why you'd ask me in particular. If you've come to an impasse in discussion, you might consider something like the ] or ] processes. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 02:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I would like to ask for a sincere apology because mistakenly i broke the condition you asked me before Unblocking me. Actually, there were some by-elections going on and today the results were declared. I thought to make the draft for the MLAs elected. I created the ] draft but the moment I clicked the publish button I realised that I have directly created an article. It was really unintended and I truly apologize from the bottom of my heart actually I didn't realised that I am not creating the draft and directly creating the article. Hope you would accept the apology and forgive.
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Regards ] (]) 08:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|Seraphimblade}} I'm having difficulties working with ] on ], so, can you please help me with the proper formatting, or instruct me on how to use the platform? I have never used it before.] (]) 13:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|AstuteFlicker}}, thanks for letting me know, just please be more careful going forward. I've moved it to draft at ]. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 08:18, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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::Thank You.. Can I submit it for AfC? ] (]) 08:19, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Of course. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 08:19, 23 November 2024 (UTC) ::{{done}} ] (]) 13:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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Enforcement on PerspicazHistorian

Hi @Seraphimblade, I respect your comment on Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#PerspicazHistorian. Can we please discuss the issue here.

1) I am a good faith editor whose start on Misplaced Pages might have been not that good but I am getting better and now editing the space in good faith.

2) The enforcement started as a retaliation as mentioned by me in the discussion here.

3) I have edited on Misplaced Pages and in the past month, we can not find a single instance where I indulged in vandalism or POV pushes as mentioned in the enforcement.

I request you to kindly give me a chance to work further on the platform.

Note: I am currently undergoing my semester exams in university till 15th jan, might not respond swiftly. I respect your fair-mindedness and have a good faith that you will take side of Justice.

Thank You ! PPicazHist (talk) 07:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

To ensure fairness and that everyone is looking at the same thing, I do not discuss open AE requests outside of AE. Please make any comments at the request, not here. Seraphimblade 12:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello @Seraphimblade, I respect your decision and will try to get better and contribute through drafts and talk pages.
Would you please close this move discussion too.
Thanks. PPicazHist (talk) 07:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
It will be closed in due course, probably not by me though. Seraphimblade 09:49, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

These edits aren't in article space, so are they ok?

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/PerspicazHistorian] and see . Doug Weller talk 10:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Doug Weller, I don't concern myself overmuch with what people put on their userpage, unless it's extremely inflammatory, personal attacks against other editors, etc. I don't, though, like the "pick-a-closer" behavior, and I'll warn for that. Seraphimblade 02:02, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I was referring to the "I will learn and work as a Runner (messenger) from one talk page to other." on their talk page and their use of article talk pages to influence articles. But if that's ok, fine. Doug Weller talk 08:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I think the hope was that they would use talk pages more rather than disruptively edit articles, so I've got no problem with that. Of course if that becomes disruptive as well, that can always be dealt with going forward. Seraphimblade 08:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 08:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Proper use of template

Would you care to take a look at the discussion unfolding on Talk:Westboro Baptist Church#LGBTQ template in this article? Your input is needed.Davidbena (talk) 23:57, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Davidbena, not sure why you'd ask me in particular. If you've come to an impasse in discussion, you might consider something like the third opinion or request for comment processes. Seraphimblade 02:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I was thinking of you since you are obviously an uninvolved person and an administrator whom I've seen around on Misplaced Pages, and, yes, I was looking for a person who would know somewhat about the proper use of templates, and, after all, you too are a third person. Feel free to recuse yourself, if you feel that it is beyond your scope. I was unaware of the format of asking for a Third opinion. Now that you've provided me with that, I'll make use of it (WP:3O). Thanks.Davidbena (talk) 04:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@Seraphimblade: I'm having difficulties working with WP:3O on Talk:Westboro Baptist Church#Third party, so, can you please help me with the proper formatting, or instruct me on how to use the platform? I have never used it before.Davidbena (talk) 13:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

You'll want to look for the "Active disagreements" heading. Under that, when you go to edit, you'll see a couple of comments in the source text telling you where to put the dispute. Link to the proper section in the article talk page where the dispute is happening, and sign with five tildes so that just the timestamp but not the name appears. Make sure your request neutrally summarizes the dispute (so, "Dispute over inclusion of X", not "X (should|should not) be included.") Seraphimblade 13:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
 Done Davidbena (talk) 13:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 66

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Issue 66, November – December 2024

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Help me pls

If I have problems on the Spanish Misplaced Pages with an administrator who blocks Misplaced Pages and IRC without reason, what can I do? Who can I contact or how can I report him? GokuJuan (talk) 05:21, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

GokuJuan, there is a section above entitled "Please read before posting". Had you read it before posting, you would have seen the following: No lulztxtspk or emojis on my talk page, please. "You" is spelled "you", "though" is spelled "though", "because" is spelled "because", "people" is spelled "people", and so on. There is no character limit on Misplaced Pages comments, so there is no need whatsoever for ad-hoc abbreviating. If you don't even take yourself seriously, don't expect me to take you seriously either. Whatever "pls" is, it is not a word in the English language. Seraphimblade 07:41, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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