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== "grooming gangs"-related disruption ==
== You may wish ==


Thanks for protecting the ] article, Elon Musk has caused a right ruckus about this . The {{articlelinks|Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom}} article is getting a lot of related disruptive edits like . Would it be possible to semi-protect it for like a week until the contoversy has died down? ] (]) 18:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
...to pull TPA. ] --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">]--]</sup> 05:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)


:I gave it a week, let me know if it needs more when that expires.
:Thanks, all set. ] (]) 05:58, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
:Odd to see the confluence of Indian anti-Pakistani sentiment and homegrown xenophobia. ] (]) 18:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::In part, a divide and conquer tactic by the likes of ] probably. ] (]) 05:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


== A great username ==
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Why hello there!
Hello, I'm leaving this notification on your talk page as is required by the template when opening an enforcement appeal. Thank you. ] ] (]) 15:02, 16 November 2024 (UTC)


I just spotted your username for the first time ever (in the Administrators' newsletter), and have to say you have a great username.
== Multiple account abuse ==


Have a great day! :)
Hello ]! You recently blocked a vandal using an IP account, ], for repeated vandalism of ]. That same vandal has multiple accounts & appears to doggedly vandalise the same things again & again over many years. Currently they are using ], ], ], also IP editor ] & probably more. They are obviously these previously banned vandals: ], ], ], ], & ]. They make a number of Subtle/Silly vandalism but seem most obsessed with changing the number in the title of the ] song, "If I Had $1000000". Many of the accounts will have 9 edits to their Sandbox, an obvious attempt to game the Autoconfirmed status. I wonder if you could please block those mentioned accounts as vandals/block evasion? I just don't understand someone putting so much effort into vandalism, with that much effort they could make actual useful edits. Thank-you for your time! ] (]) 16:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)


''']''' <sup>]</sup> 20:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:I only saw one account in the list unblocked, so I took care of that. The unblocked ips are stale so I didn't bother with them. I also protected the demo tapes article for a few months. Thanks for the heads up and let me know if you see any more disruption. ] (]) 16:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
::Hello ]! Thank-you so much for the very swift action! Also thanks to ] who appears to have swatted the other accounts I mentioned in the list, the reason they were blocked when you got to them. Both of you acted really quickly. Thanks for your time & help! ] (]) 17:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Glad to help, that's why they pay us the big bucks. ] (]) 17:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
::::{{small|''You guys are getting paid?''}} ] (]) 17:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::My bank account is full of Misplaced Pages thanks, barnstars, and good vibes. Unrelated, but can anyone spare some scratch for my mortgage? ] (]) 17:11, 16 November 2024 (UTC)


:Thanks! My old roommate drew a picture of me as an old timey bare knuckle boxer and coined that as my boxer name. ] (]) 20:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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A while ago, I was topic banned by you as per this report-. I haven't edited since late November, but I was wondering if you could reconsider your decision.
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If unbanned, I would learn from my recent experiences in order to leaven my interactions with editors I have had intense content disputes with, such as trying not to let my personal feelings or disdain cloud my judgment on Misplaced Pages, I'd confront any disagreement between myself and another editor through only discussing the issue on the article's talk page, and I'd make a resolute commitment to immediately de-escalating conflicts and avoiding and language that would affront the other party.
== cand q ==


Thanks. ] (]) 21:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore:
* ''']''' chose ]er by five composers whose music was banned by the Nazis—], ], ], ] and ]—for a recital at the ].


:As this was placed based on the consensus of administrators at AE I will not unilaterally lift it. You can appeal at AE, but it is very unlikely that it will be successful without demonstrating constructive editing in other topics. ] (]) 21:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- ] (]) 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::Ok, when I do hit 6 months/500 edits, do I have to appeal at a certain noticeboard or will it automatically be lifted? ] (]) 21:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::It will automatically be lifted. Please give ] a quick review, too. It is expected that your edits will be, for the most part, substantial. A bunch of small copy edits that appear like you're making edits just to reach 500 could result in further sanctions. ] (]) 21:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Ok, thank you. ] (]) 21:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


== January music ==
:Those articles don't, in and of themselves, tell me a lot about infoboxes, other than that most of them have infoboxes. Quick power ranking on their hair, though.
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:#] - trying to pull off the "genius that doesn't care about his hair" look, but Schreker did it much better
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:#] - looks like he's going to a job interview at a bank
], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. - Happy new year! --] (]) 22:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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:Happy new year, Gerda! ] (]) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment ==
:: Thank you! - My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 11:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I gave a quick look at one of her dance videos, and unfortunately it's not much my style. ] (]) 12:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for being curious! - Today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 22:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: ... and today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 19:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


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{{u|WelshSwedishTurnip}} ] (]) 16:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== {{ip|95.91.249.178}} ==


:This is certain to be a productive editor. We'll see how it plays out. ] (]) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi. Maybe the wrong place but this may be the quickest. this user is multiple IP abuser.. ] (]) 16:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::Admin in a week. ] (]) 16:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


:I'm pretty sure it's actually {{noping|RumyantsevPolkovodets}}. I've blocked for a month for block evasion. Thanks for the heads up, and let me know if you see them pop up again. ] (]) 16:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)


== Resolution Path for ECR Topics ==
== Best Wishes ==
Hello. You and I met during a low-grade spat I had while learning that sectional EC restrictions were enforced manually. I have a question related to the resolution paths available when an EC edit request is not replied to. Is RfC for example, applicable to contentious topics? Many thanks!] (]) 20:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


Hi ScottishFinnishRadish, I noticed that you are running for Arbcom elections. I want to wish you good luck for it. I have just voted for you :) ] (]) 18:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC) :You cannot start an RFC in a topic covered by ] until you are extended-confirmed, so if your edit request is not enacted then you have no recourse until you are extended-confirmed. ] (]) 21:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for the reply. ] (]) 03:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== Taha Danesh ==
:Thank you very much! ] (]) 18:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello ScottishFinnishRadish, I want to bring you a complaint about Taha Danesh. On and elsewhere this editor is being very disruptive. They reverted my addition and falsely accused me of everything in a frankly bizarre edit summary:. This was ironic because I did explain my edit and use sources while BLP clearly doesn't apply. Even worse is that they deleted the content about executions and child soldiers last month without explanation: and . Their are other blatantly POV issues with these edits including about the fatwa calling for the murder of Salman Rushdie. They have made numerous edits like this across other pages and have gotten into many edit wars recently.


I saw on their talk page you notified them about some of their templates that are up for deletion. I think Taha Danesh is using an IP address disruptively . The latest edits on the IP were reverted by you because they deleted the deletion templates you added. I figured I would make you aware that they are the same person. This IP has exclusively edited the same pages as Taha Danesh, including edit warring mainly on pages created by Taha Danesh. Examples include: , and .
== Gaza Genocide ==


Thanks for your time. ] (]) 20:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I believe you protected Talk on Gaza Genocide. I have insufficient editing experience to qualify for the proper status to post on Talk for this page. I was wondering how it is possible to communicate the simplest information. Specifically, a reference to the link of UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese's latest report
Genocide as Colonial Erasure from October 2024 is missing. This is the link:


:I have given them a CTOP alert for post-1978 Iranian politics. If the disruption continues I suggest you make a report at ]. ] (]) 21:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/genocide-as-colonial-erasure-report-francesca-albanese-01oct24/


::Thanks for taking a look. ] (]) 21:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The reference number should be placed before number 240. I hope you or someone else will add it.


Hi {{ping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, sorry to bother you again but could you please give another warning to Taha Danesh as they have continued to edit war and there are obvious competence issues. Only an hour after you gave them the CTOP alert they continued to edit war at with another odd edit summary that didn't really reflect their edit. Fortunately ] reverted them and pointed out that the sources were clearly reliable and to make their case on the talk page.
Is there any way I can post a topic on Talk to add information for someone else to consider and edit? I understand the importance of restricting access to controversial topics. I am only starting to edit again, after a 7 year absence, and I never edited much to begin with. I would like to improve accuracy of topics with minor additions. ] (]) 11:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


After a few days of calm they started edit warring over the same issue this time on ]. Yesterday they of a figure without using an edit summary and reinserted a completely unsourced estimate of "several". In the last hour they have again reverted me three further times with bizarre edit summaries where they claim that Amnesty International and NBC news are "clearly biased and politically motivated". They also didn't seem to understand what "several" meant. They also repeatedly claimed that my usage of "thousands" was unsourced even though I quoted Amnesty in my edit summary; , & .
:You can request that edit at ] where patrollers will check it and either action it, move it to the talk page for further discussion, or decline it. ] (]) 12:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you. ] (]) 12:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:::No problem. I'm going to place a couple messages on your talk page that explain some of the peculiarities of the ARBPIA topic area. ] (]) 12:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


Thanks. ] (]) 20:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
== Report ==


:I suggest you bring this to ]. ] (]) 21:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Hey,


::Ok, I will look to do that shortly. I will add that they just reverted for a in only two hours. ] (]) 21:14, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Take a look on that ] please.


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:It is an IP that made a series of edits over 13 minutes two weeks ago, and was blocked. At this point there's nothing else to do. ] (]) 16:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


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== Udham Singh ==


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Hi, it is regarding sockpuppetry by , who was blocked for removal of sourced content and making legal threats. Apparently, they are back with . Have a look . - ] (]) 10:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


== Feedback request: Economy, trade, and companies request for comment ==
:Blocked. Might be meat, rather than a sock, but the effect is the same. ] (]) 11:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


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== Edit warring at ] ==


== Permission to respond freely to a false sock-puppetry accusation ==
Could you take a look at ]? An IP editor is edit warring against multiple editors. -- <small>LCU</small> ''']''' <small>''«]» °]°''</small> 15:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


I have been falsely accused by @] of sock puppetry. As his "evidence" is related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict topic I have been banned from by you, I need your approval to be able to respond to his false accusation freely. ] (]) 22:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:Nevermind already taken care of. -- <small>LCU</small> ''']''' <small>''«]» °]°''</small> 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
:I see they were just blocked. Just one IP address in the past month, so not going to protect now, but if you see it continue just let me know. ] (]) 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
::Will do, thanks. -- <small>LCU</small> ''']''' <small>''«]» °]°''</small> 15:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


:That's close enough to ] where I think it's fine. I urge you to focus specifically on the evidence and be as brief as possible. ] (]) 22:55, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
== 1259510796 ==


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can be deleted, too.


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Also, I'm noticing a very unusual error, when I compare diffs between the LTA and a clean version, it won't show, obviously, because I'm not an admin, but then it also pops up the following in a red box:


== your suggestion ==
<nowiki>User doesn't have access to the requested revision (The revision #1259514017 belongs to a deleted page. You can ; details can be found in the .).</nowiki>


Hey, SFR! You wrote ] {{xt|maybe a rule against making comments. Non-parties can only provide evidence pertaining to the report, and any commentary can be removed by an admin as a clerking action}}, and I didn't want to ask there because I'm probably just stupid. Are you meaning 'relevant diff, or don't open a section'? ] (]) 00:54, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
(I've nowikied the above, because the error box ''literally'' shows that).] ] (]) 16:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


:Not sure what's up with the error. Maybe because some adjacent revision is deleted? I took care of 796. Thanks for the heads up. ] (]) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC) :More or less, yeah. I wouldn't specifically say someone would need a diff or link, since someone might be providing context to an action related to the report or something similar. The general idea being we don't need people showing up sniping at each other or just giving an opinion on the situation. ] (]) 01:12, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::I couldn't find the message in ]. Are there other places where they are located?
::Also, 1259514953 is still live. ] (]) 16:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
:::All set. As for the message, you got me stumped. VPT is probably a better venue for that as I'm blissfully unaware of where many of those messages are located. ] (]) 16:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Ok, I'll post this at VPT
::::wait... there's more than 5000 messages, hang on ] (]) 16:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::It seems like ] would be the closest match.
:::::Posting to VPT... ] (]) 16:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


== Split request for vagina page ==
== Request additional revision deletion at ] ==


Hi, you reverted a removal of the "split request" notice on ] by ] with the reasoning "Rv sock" but the same user closed the request on ]. Either the split request has to be reopened, or the notice has to be removed from the article. I removed the notice from the article, but if you're going to restore it, then please reopen the request on the talk page. ] (]) 20:22, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi, I recently noticed you ] at ], but there are some remaining vandalising edits (most notably, ) whose offending content and edit summaries are still visible. Would it be okay if you redacted the content and edit summaries on the remaining offending edits? ] (]) 16:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{tpw|safe=yes}} the user doing this is an attention-seeking troll. The less we do the better, and revdel doesn't actually stop them doing anything. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 17:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
::I normally just zap the ones I see when I revert. They're not really worth more than minimal effort. ] (]) 17:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


:Looks like {{u|M.Bitton}} took care of this. Thanks. ] (]) 21:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
== Revdel request at ] ==

again. Does this signal the TP might need protection from unregistered users? Thanks as ever for your thoughts. ] (]) 00:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

:That was fast. Thank you so much! ] (]) 00:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
::No problem. There's not enough disruption at this point for talk page protection, since it looks like the last issue was two weeks ago. If it pops up again, let me know, and thanks for keeping a weather eye. ] (]) 00:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

== Block conflict ==

I've reverted my block of {{checkuser|Trampled crop field}} to the settings you had posted. Looks like we had a conflict there. — ]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub> 01:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

== Bare Naked Multiple Account Abuse==

Hello ]! Return of ] making Subtle/Silly edits, this time as ]. Same changes as last time to the amount in the song title "If I Had $1,000,000". Kind of sad that they have nothing better to do. Could you please block the account? At least this should help toward that mortgage, you guys do get a bounty right? :) Thanks for your time! ] (]) 01:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

:All set, thanks for the heads-up. ] (]) 02:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
::Hello ]! Goodness, you're fast! Thank-you kindly for your work! Take care, ] (]) 02:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

== Vegan416 ==

Hi SFR, I wonder if you'd consider lifting your TBAN of {{u|Vegan416}}? Maybe you'll need to hear from him, but I thought I'd try to facilitate as someone more comfortable with such wiki processes. I reached out to him because he had done some extremely substantive work, such as this ], and I hoped to see more of that.

I think the reasons for the TBAN were valid, but it has been 4 months which seems like a significant sanction already. Can't be sure that the issues won't recur, but I would argue that a second chance makes sense given Vegan's unique substantive contributions. — ] <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>\<sup>]</sup> 15:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

:I can say that I realize that speaking publicly about other editors' personal political (or other) opinions is against the rule, and I can promise to avoid doing that again in the future. ] (]) 16:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
:Per ], {{tq|Only the restricted editor may appeal an editor restriction.}} Looking at their contributions since the topic ban, I see some sub-par BLP editing that makes me a bit wary about lifting any topic ban unilaterally. ] (]) 16:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
::What is the meaning of "unilaterally" in this context? ] (]) 11:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
:::On my own, as the administrator who sanctioned you. I would rather you get broader input through appealing at AE or AN. ] (]) 11:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

== Appeal on indefinite ban on topic ==

Hello SFR, One year and one month ago, you banned me "indefinitely from any edits related to the Arab/Israel conflict" for unknowingly committing "a 1RR" violation even though I had undone the violation by myself immediately after realizing it was a 1RR, before anyone had done any other edits to the page, and before your ban. I argued at the time that it was clear that I simply hadn't noticed that it was a 1RR violation, as I explicitly stated in the edit summary that I was again reverting someone else's undue removal of content, and only a few minutes later I undid my own edit as I realized it would constitute a 1RR in less than 24 hours violation on my part, but still you ruled to ban me "indefinitely" as, according to you, the Arab/Israel conflict was too serious for someone who was not 100% familiar with the 1RR violation rule. Now that over one year has passed since then, and as I truly believe that a permanent ban (for a violation that had already been corrected by myself in a matter of minutes) was a harsh decision, I intend to appeal the indefinite ban. Before taking the matter to appropriate mechanisms of ban reviews, though, I decided to present these arguments first to you, and to therefore ask if you would be willing to consider removing the indefinite ban yourself. Thank you very much for your time and attention, and for all the time dedicated to Misplaced Pages, and have a good day. ] (]) 08:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

:You made far more edits in the week leading to your topic ban than you've made in the past year so it's difficult to determine if there's been a significant improvement. If you do appeal I suggest you mention your earlier 6 month topic ban that came with an explicit warning, {{tq|I would strongly caution you (Dan Palraz@) though that if there are any problematic edits in this topic area after the topic ban expires you will almost definitely end up with an indefinite topic ban and that given that the behaviour continued it would be difficult to successfully appeal.}} as it provides some context to your indefinite topic ban. ] (]) 11:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

== Block Evasion ==
You used these words "Block Evasion" to revert multiple edits today on airport pages. What does this phrase mean and why did you use it to revert edits ? ] (]) 14:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

:I was mass-reverting the edits of an editor that was evading blocks on a number of other IP addresses. ] (]) 14:41, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
::Some of the edits were good - I would have done the same edits. ] (]) 14:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Feel free to reinstate any edits that you believe were an improvement. ] (]) 14:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

== Question about what constitutes edit warring (@]) ==
Hello {{ping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{ping|Barkeep49}}. I wanted to ask you for some guidance whether the following situation amounts to edit warring.
* Following a content dispute whether the "]" should be included on the ] article, an RfC was started on 22 November.
* On 27 November, despite the ongoing RfC, User:Selfstudier added content related to the "Gaza genocide" to the article.
* Another editor reverted the addition and requested that Selfstudier refrain from adding the disputed content while the RfC is still ongoing.
* A few minutes later, Selfstudier restored it anyway
Selfstudier says the RfC is about the lead, not the body, but the RfC is clearly about the body too (check the text here ).
I contacted Selfstudier on their talk page asking them to self-revert but they said this wasn't edit warring , asking me to re-read the RfC (which I read, and is clearly on the body too) and threatened to report me for making a 'false accusation'. Then they went on to remove our discussion from the page . Overall this isn't the first time I'm seeing Selfstudier doing this for content that is being discussed in an RfC following a content dispute. What should one make out of this case? thanks. ] (]) 06:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

:I trust this isn't going to be treated at all seriously. ] (]) 15:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:Additionally, appears related to . What should one make out of that? ] (]) 15:43, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:This seems like the type of thing that, if you believe some action is necessary, should go to AE rather than to a single admin. ] (]) 21:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
::@] I did ] (]) 15:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

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== TB? ==

See https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Doug_Weller#User_TheCuratingEditor

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/TheCuratingEditor ] ] 14:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

:I would have blocked a few times by now for ECR violations if I had been aware. A topic ban is more than reasonable in my book. ] (]) 21:21, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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Just need a repeat of the archive sorting ]; mainly asking you so I don't have to explain it again; might be worth watchlisting that page, thanks. ] (]) 19:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

:All set. I have it on my watchlist, but there's 5800 other pages on my watchlist, so stuff slips by. ] (]) 21:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::It's all good I understand. Thanks, ] (]) 21:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
:::No worries, thanks for keeping an eye out. ] (]) 22:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


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== Thanks for watching the Zionism talk page ==

I originally came to ask about my comment's inclusion in ], but I understand now that you're currently "pruning" the talk page, so to speak.

As such, I'll instead thank you for your diligence. I understand that, with how contentious this topic is, "babysitting" it is exhausting work, but I wanted to let you know that I appreciate that work of yours nonetheless. ] (]) 22:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks for that. Using an LLM to waste everyone's time is bad enough, but with the new word limits it's egregiously bad. ] (]) 22:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::Apologies for returning to this matter, but after some consideration, the usage of an LLM, & my previous ], I wanted to ask if ] should be hatted as well?
::If they are genuine quotes & I simply failed my attempt at sleuthing, I'll gladly eat crow, but I thought it'd be best to ask just in case.
::Thank you for your time. ] (]) 00:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Sorted. I've already pulled their EC permission, as well, so ECR applies to them again. ] (]) 00:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)


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:All set, thanks. ] (]) 00:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC) :Glad to help out. I checked the /32 as well, but didn't seem like they were on that whole range, although the extra edits still weren't great. ] (]) 12:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{ec}} (I was going to do the range searching before I made the AIV report, but the disruption was rapid enough that I went a little 'hasty' and reported the latest address instead.) —&nbsp;] ] 13:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:::That's the right way to handle it. I blocked the /64 initially, then started looking into the range. ] (]) 13:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)


== On LLM checking == == ] ==


If you have time and are inclined to redact, . Thanks as always for action or feedback. ] (]) 05:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi SFR, I noticed you have recently been clearing up some LLM text from talk pages, I was just wondering if there was any specific tool you were using to flag/check whether a text was likely generated by an LLM? -- ] (]) 10:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)


:Just wanted to take a moment to thank you again, in words, for your help. In the unlikely event I'm ever handed a janny mop, I'll remember "bloop" is an RD2 option {{smiley}}. Thanks again for being available. Cheers! ] (]) 20:03, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
:Many LLMs write with a particular style that stands out like a beacon when you're familiar with it. That's all I use. In my experience, the tools are essentially worthless. ] (]) 12:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, and my phone will always choose the autocorrect option to make me look the worst. ] (]) 20:28, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
:::This is a basic universal rule. Nobody escapes it. I even get auto'd TALKING to my phone. Sigh. ] (]) 20:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

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"grooming gangs"-related disruption

Thanks for protecting the Huddersfield sex abuse ring article, Elon Musk has caused a right ruckus about this . The Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) article is getting a lot of related disruptive edits like . Would it be possible to semi-protect it for like a week until the contoversy has died down? Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

I gave it a week, let me know if it needs more when that expires.
Odd to see the confluence of Indian anti-Pakistani sentiment and homegrown xenophobia. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
In part, a divide and conquer tactic by the likes of Tommy Robinson probably. Sean.hoyland (talk) 05:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

A great username

Why hello there!

I just spotted your username for the first time ever (in the Administrators' newsletter), and have to say you have a great username.

Have a great day! :)

·addshore· 20:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! My old roommate drew a picture of me as an old timey bare knuckle boxer and coined that as my boxer name. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Appeal

A while ago, I was topic banned by you as per this report-. I haven't edited since late November, but I was wondering if you could reconsider your decision.

I acknowledge that my behavior and edits were subpar at the A/E report, but I strongly believe that overall on the main-space, I am a productive editor who always uses high quality sources and abides by Misplaced Pages's norms on content creation. I believe my interactions with GoDG were an aberration in which things got overly heated and led to frivolous back and forths on Misplaced Pages A/E when they should have been resolved through good faith, substantive discussions on the t/p and related dispute resolution noticeboards. I strongly maintain that I did make a genuine, good faith attempt to resolve the related content on DN- in which I laid out a case to summarize and include content based on high quality sources while the A/E was going on.

I'd also like to point out that this topic area on Misplaced Pages has quite a few bad actors including perennial sockpuppets and some unserious editors who use this platform to inflate, and in many cases, fabricate historical events in order to aggrandize their communities. For example, one perennial sockmaster in this topic area was pretending to be me in order to get me "blocked everywhere" as per Inzo. For many years, I've been a guardrail against a lot of these bad actors and have done a lot to prevent them from disrupting and vandalizing Misplaced Pages.

If unbanned, I would learn from my recent experiences in order to leaven my interactions with editors I have had intense content disputes with, such as trying not to let my personal feelings or disdain cloud my judgment on Misplaced Pages, I'd confront any disagreement between myself and another editor through only discussing the issue on the article's talk page, and I'd make a resolute commitment to immediately de-escalating conflicts and avoiding and language that would affront the other party.

Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

As this was placed based on the consensus of administrators at AE I will not unilaterally lift it. You can appeal at AE, but it is very unlikely that it will be successful without demonstrating constructive editing in other topics. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Ok, when I do hit 6 months/500 edits, do I have to appeal at a certain noticeboard or will it automatically be lifted? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
It will automatically be lifted. Please give WP:GAMING a quick review, too. It is expected that your edits will be, for the most part, substantial. A bunch of small copy edits that appear like you're making edits just to reach 500 could result in further sanctions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

January music

story · music · places

Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. - Happy new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy new year, Gerda! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! - My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
I gave a quick look at one of her dance videos, and unfortunately it's not much my style. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for being curious! - Today a violinist from Turkey, Ayla Erduran, whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
... and today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

You have competition!

WelshSwedishTurnip Knitsey (talk) 16:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

This is certain to be a productive editor. We'll see how it plays out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Admin in a week. Knitsey (talk) 16:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


Resolution Path for ECR Topics

Hello. You and I met during a low-grade spat I had while learning that sectional EC restrictions were enforced manually. I have a question related to the resolution paths available when an EC edit request is not replied to. Is RfC for example, applicable to contentious topics? Many thanks!Johnadams11 (talk) 20:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

You cannot start an RFC in a topic covered by WP:ECR until you are extended-confirmed, so if your edit request is not enacted then you have no recourse until you are extended-confirmed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply. Johnadams11 (talk) 03:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Taha Danesh

Hello ScottishFinnishRadish, I want to bring you a complaint about Taha Danesh. On Ruhollah Khomeini and elsewhere this editor is being very disruptive. They reverted my addition and falsely accused me of everything in a frankly bizarre edit summary:Rv unexplained changes with ideological or political or personal previews or poor or unsourced statements and BLP issue or vandalism. This was ironic because I did explain my edit and use sources while BLP clearly doesn't apply. Even worse is that they deleted the content about executions and child soldiers last month without explanation: and . Their are other blatantly POV issues with these edits including about the fatwa calling for the murder of Salman Rushdie. They have made numerous edits like this across other pages and have gotten into many edit wars recently.

I saw on their talk page you notified them about some of their templates that are up for deletion. I think Taha Danesh is using an IP address disruptively 93.71.57.57. The latest edits on the IP were reverted by you because they deleted the deletion templates you added. I figured I would make you aware that they are the same person. This IP has exclusively edited the same pages as Taha Danesh, including edit warring mainly on pages created by Taha Danesh. Examples include: Eitaa Messenger, Bale Messenger and Rubika.

Thanks for your time. Tele-1985 (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I have given them a CTOP alert for post-1978 Iranian politics. If the disruption continues I suggest you make a report at WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look. Tele-1985 (talk) 21:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @ScottishFinnishRadish:, sorry to bother you again but could you please give another warning to Taha Danesh as they have continued to edit war and there are obvious competence issues. Only an hour after you gave them the CTOP alert they continued to edit war at Ruhollah Khomeini with another odd edit summary that didn't really reflect their edit. Fortunately User:HistoryofIran reverted them and pointed out that the sources were clearly reliable and to make their case on the talk page.

After a few days of calm they started edit warring over the same issue this time on Ebrahim Raisi. Yesterday they reverted my correction of a figure without using an edit summary and reinserted a completely unsourced estimate of "several". In the last hour they have again reverted me three further times with bizarre edit summaries where they claim that Amnesty International and NBC news are "clearly biased and politically motivated". They also didn't seem to understand what "several" meant. They also repeatedly claimed that my usage of "thousands" was unsourced even though I quoted Amnesty in my edit summary; 1, 2 & 3.

Thanks. Tele-1985 (talk) 20:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

I suggest you bring this to WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Ok, I will look to do that shortly. I will add that they just reverted for a fourth time in only two hours. Tele-1985 (talk) 21:14, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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Permission to respond freely to a false sock-puppetry accusation

I have been falsely accused by @Levivich of sock puppetry. As his "evidence" is related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict topic I have been banned from by you, I need your approval to be able to respond to his false accusation freely. Vegan416 (talk) 22:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

That's close enough to WP:BANEXEMPT where I think it's fine. I urge you to focus specifically on the evidence and be as brief as possible. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hey, SFR! You wrote here maybe a rule against making comments. Non-parties can only provide evidence pertaining to the report, and any commentary can be removed by an admin as a clerking action, and I didn't want to ask there because I'm probably just stupid. Are you meaning 'relevant diff, or don't open a section'? Valereee (talk) 00:54, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

More or less, yeah. I wouldn't specifically say someone would need a diff or link, since someone might be providing context to an action related to the report or something similar. The general idea being we don't need people showing up sniping at each other or just giving an opinion on the situation. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:12, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Split request for vagina page

Hi, you reverted a removal of the "split request" notice on Vagina by User:Afranklady with the reasoning "Rv sock" but the same user closed the request on Talk:Vagina. Either the split request has to be reopened, or the notice has to be removed from the article. I removed the notice from the article, but if you're going to restore it, then please reopen the request on the talk page. Tuscan Ant (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Looks like M.Bitton took care of this. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

Well done for taking care of that talk page vandal at the range 2003:D9:6700:0:0:0:0:0/41! I did my own rangeblock calculations and ended up at the same /41 destination. I also found out that the vandalism had actually been going on since more than a week ago, and was about to message you about it beforehand, until I noticed you already blocked it! — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Glad to help out. I checked the /32 as well, but didn't seem like they were on that whole range, although the extra edits still weren't great. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
(edit conflict) (I was going to do the range searching before I made the AIV report, but the disruption was rapid enough that I went a little 'hasty' and reported the latest address instead.) — AP 499D25 (talk) 13:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
That's the right way to handle it. I blocked the /64 initially, then started looking into the range. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Scott Ritter

If you have time and are inclined to redact, this is going off the rails. Thanks as always for action or feedback. JFHJr () 05:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Just wanted to take a moment to thank you again, in words, for your help. In the unlikely event I'm ever handed a janny mop, I'll remember "bloop" is an RD2 option . Thanks again for being available. Cheers! JFHJr () 20:03, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, and my phone will always choose the autocorrect option to make me look the worst. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:28, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
This is a basic universal rule. Nobody escapes it. I even get auto'd TALKING to my phone. Sigh. JFHJr () 20:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
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