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	== ~~Infobox~~ ~~Edit~~ ==		== Advice if you have a mo ==

			Sorry to ask, I'm looking for a policy on footballers. It's something along the lines of, if a nationality is causing disruption then it should be removed? I'm sure I've seen it in relation to football articles.
	Hello, I just wanted to ask for clarification on the undoing of my edit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Jayden_Luker&oldid=1261178257. It says to not edit the formatting of infobox but I didn't? All I did was change the goals from 0 to 1 using Edit on the Infobox in Visual Edit mode. ] (]) 15:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
			The reason I'm asking is because there is some disruption over at ]. Any advice? Thanks in advance, ] (]) 17:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

			:The general rule is - if someone is born in one country but plays for another through e.g. parentage, do not mention the nationality straight after the date of birth (e.g. ]). For Hamza, until he actually plays for Bangladesh, I think saying he is 'English footballer' is fine. If/when he plays for Bangladesh, remove the nationality. ]] 17:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
	:No, you did, see . ]] 15:54, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
			::Lovely, thank you. I was fairly sure I had come across a discussion. Appreciate the advice, ta, ] (]) 17:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
	::I respectfully disagree. I can see that spaces have been removed, but I did not do these myself. All I did was change the 0 to a 1 so something else must have caused the formatting to change. ] (]) 15:56, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
	:::If you go into Visual Edit and edit the Infobox, and then preview the changes. It messes with the formatting. I've just previewed a change and it did the same thing. ] (]) 16:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
	::::Then please do not use Visual Editor when editing infoboxes if it is not fit for purpose. ]] 16:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
	:::::Is whitespace really important enough to keep people from using Visual Editor? I can't really see that. ] (]) 21:07, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
	::::::Yes, infobox formatting is important. We have MOS for a reason. ]] 09:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
	:::::::Which MOS are you referring to? ] (]) 15:47, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
	::::::::{{tl\|Infobox football biography}}... ]] 16:38, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

			==Tournament Pages==
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			Hi Giant Snowman, happy new year!
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			How far advance should pages of major tournaments (World Cup, AFCON etc) be created in advance?
	The article ] has been ] because of the following concern:
	<blockquote>'''I am unable to find anything approaching ] for this American former soccer player.'''</blockquote>

			I'm considering starting a page for UEFA Euro 2036, is it too early?
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			:Same to you! What information is known about the tournament? How much significant coverage is there? ]] 18:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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			::Always nice to make acquaintance of a fellow Yorkshireman! 2 potential bidders are known - Poland and Nordics. Precedent suggests bidding process will open later this year with host chosen in late 2027. ] • ] ⚽ 18:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Maybe create it in draft first? See ]. ]] 19:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

			==Your comment about me==
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			Hi again,

			I've seen your comment about me on the admin noticeboard. Just to clarify I am a new editor on this account but have been editing on and off for a few years on various IPs but hadn't logged in until recently. I have spent plenty of time reviewing wiki policy and procedure and am very interested in the 'behind the scenes' aspect of wikipedia.

			] • ] ⚽ 19:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:Please comment at ]. Why have you been undertaking botched page moves, why did you mess with my user space draft, and why have you created a RFA for another user? ]] 19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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			== I’m not sure what to write here but I ask you read it ==

			Hi Mr. Snowman,

			I want to sincerely apologize for my actions and I realize that we both were getting frustrated and I apologize for that.

			I'm starting to realize your point regarding the inexperience and I'm starting to realize although it is true and I don't want it to disqualify my vote, I feel like it is necessary to somehow be proactive about.

			I was wondering if you would considering ] me and be a mentor? I know we just argued a few hours ago but I'm realizing I really do need someone to help guide me and with the warning I already got for a satire edit (which was fully my fault), I'm starting to realize that maybe I don't know the Misplaced Pages's ins and outs as I thought.

			I have been mostly trying to stay behind the scenes and been working on promoting ] but in light of recent events although I'm still working on it, I definitely need someone to mentor me. Would you consider adopting me?

			Thanks,
			] (]) 02:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) ] (]) 02:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

			:Thanks for reaching out, and yes, of course more than happy to mentor you as much as I can! ]] 10:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
			::Awesome! Thank you so much! Where do we start? ] (]) 14:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::You can just ask me any questions if you need help with anything. ]] 14:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::Alright, thanks. I'll ask if I come up with anything. ] (]) 14:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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			== Hey mentour! ==

			Hi my mentor, Giant Snowman,

			I'm asking if you could help review the guidelines with me and assist me in creating a central discussion page regarding AI use as there are no guidelines. I was thinking of something like what I mentioned in the ANI as a start and your mention of a separate discussion was what brought me here.

			Fyi, yeah I'm feeling better something I ate this morning did not sit well and passing gas actually helped 🤣
	== World record editing ==

			This is probably the first major project I'll be working on and your help as an experienced editor (and my mentor) would really help me out. I would like your help on the flaws with my views with the AI mentioning in AI, how that'd conflict with ], and other aspects of AI usage to draft a good post for centralized discussion.
	] (]) 19:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

			Your mentee,
	:What action do you want to happen? ]] 19:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
			] (]) 22:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC) ] (]) 22:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Advice if you have a mo

Sorry to ask, I'm looking for a policy on footballers. It's something along the lines of, if a nationality is causing disruption then it should be removed? I'm sure I've seen it in relation to football articles. The reason I'm asking is because there is some disruption over at Hamza Choudhury. Any advice? Thanks in advance, Knitsey (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

The general rule is - if someone is born in one country but plays for another through e.g. parentage, do not mention the nationality straight after the date of birth (e.g. Riyad Mahrez). For Hamza, until he actually plays for Bangladesh, I think saying he is 'English footballer' is fine. If/when he plays for Bangladesh, remove the nationality. Giant Snowman 17:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Lovely, thank you. I was fairly sure I had come across a discussion. Appreciate the advice, ta, Knitsey (talk) 17:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Tournament Pages

Hi Giant Snowman, happy new year!

How far advance should pages of major tournaments (World Cup, AFCON etc) be created in advance?

I'm considering starting a page for UEFA Euro 2036, is it too early?

Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 18:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Same to you! What information is known about the tournament? How much significant coverage is there? Giant Snowman 18:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Always nice to make acquaintance of a fellow Yorkshireman! 2 potential bidders are known - Poland and Nordics. Precedent suggests bidding process will open later this year with host chosen in late 2027. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 18:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Maybe create it in draft first? See WP:AFC. Giant Snowman 19:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Your comment about me

Hi again,

I've seen your comment about me on the admin noticeboard. Just to clarify I am a new editor on this account but have been editing on and off for a few years on various IPs but hadn't logged in until recently. I have spent plenty of time reviewing wiki policy and procedure and am very interested in the 'behind the scenes' aspect of wikipedia.

Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 19:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Please comment at WP:ANI. Why have you been undertaking botched page moves, why did you mess with my user space draft, and why have you created a RFA for another user? Giant Snowman 19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I’m not sure what to write here but I ask you read it

Hi Mr. Snowman,

I want to sincerely apologize for my actions and I realize that we both were getting frustrated and I apologize for that.

I'm starting to realize your point regarding the inexperience and I'm starting to realize although it is true and I don't want it to disqualify my vote, I feel like it is necessary to somehow be proactive about.

I was wondering if you would considering "adopting" me and be a mentor? I know we just argued a few hours ago but I'm realizing I really do need someone to help guide me and with the warning I already got for a satire edit (which was fully my fault), I'm starting to realize that maybe I don't know the Misplaced Pages's ins and outs as I thought.

I have been mostly trying to stay behind the scenes and been working on promoting this article but in light of recent events although I'm still working on it, I definitely need someone to mentor me. Would you consider adopting me?

Thanks, Reader of Information (talk) 02:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) Reader of Information (talk) 02:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out, and yes, of course more than happy to mentor you as much as I can! Giant Snowman 10:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Awesome! Thank you so much! Where do we start? Reader of Information (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

You can just ask me any questions if you need help with anything. Giant Snowman 14:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. I'll ask if I come up with anything. Reader of Information (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hey mentour!

Hi my mentor, Giant Snowman,

I'm asking if you could help review the guidelines with me and assist me in creating a central discussion page regarding AI use as there are no guidelines. I was thinking of something like what I mentioned in the ANI as a start and your mention of a separate discussion was what brought me here.

Fyi, yeah I'm feeling better something I ate this morning did not sit well and passing gas actually helped 🤣

This is probably the first major project I'll be working on and your help as an experienced editor (and my mentor) would really help me out. I would like your help on the flaws with my views with the AI mentioning in AI, how that'd conflict with WP:LLM, and other aspects of AI usage to draft a good post for centralized discussion.

Your mentee, Reader of Information (talk) 22:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC) Reader of Information (talk) 22:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)