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== Changes to the project banner ==
== Featured material ==
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Hi! I have made some changes to the ] in its :
* I have changed the image to ], which is similar to ] I added .
* I have also added a few new notes;
*# ] - Now that there are new task forces, this category would be helpful to keep track of articles.
*# ] - already exists; but added a visible note to it.
*# ] - already exists; but added a visible note to it.
*# ] - would be useful to keep track of former GA pages as well.
*# ] - would be useful to keep track of current competitions.
* Cricket Collaboration - planning to begin it from February 2025.
Others, please let me know what your thoughts about this are... <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 11:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:Also, why is the ] on a talk page, instead of a project page...? <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 11:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|AssociateAffiliate|Bearian|Jhall1|Joseph2302|Jpeeling|ReturnDuane|Spike 'em}} or anyone else: what are your thoughts about this... <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 02:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I have no opinion. ] (]) 02:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== Review request! ==
Hello all. As a project we have 321 featured works, mostly featured lists. Where do we all stand with increasing this number, particularly for non-list articles? Does anyone have any up-and-coming articles headed toward FA status? Any particular areas we should focus on going forwards? ] (]) 16:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC)


Happy New Year all! I have a couple more Hampshire cricketers lined up for FA nom and wondered if anyone would be kind enough to review them? Any additions/suggestions much appreciated :)
:I've read several cricket articles which are either FA or GA, and haven't seen any significant difference in standard. I presume there are some higher bar FA criteria which some reviewers apply rigidly? I'd suggest the GA material (143 in total) is the best place to find FA candidates but, without knowing the criteria gap, I wouldn't be able to recommend specifics.
:The trouble with classifications like these is that a good article is a good article, and it is someone's opinion whether it gets published (real world) or featured (here). ] (]) 07:29, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::Sounds like the avenue to go. I also think there should be articles we need to prioritise. For example, Shane Warne, or W. G. Grace, so historically significant articles, or articles important to the game, such as ''Laws of Cricket''. I'd bypass GA and head straight to FA. GA had me on hold for 5 months and a rather back and forth frustrating experience, which has put me off going back. ] (]) 22:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
:::I see what you mean about GA delay. The oldest nomination there now is ], since 22 February! I agree with your priorities, and ''Laws'' is especially important. Some major players including Bradman, Headley, Rhodes, and Hobbs are already at FA but, as you say, the likes of Grace, Sobers, Warne, Tendulkar, Murali, and a few others should ideally be there too. I might have more time for WP come the New Year so I'll think about adopting an article then. ] (]) 16:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Hi again, AA. I was in a secondhand bookshop yesterday and saw the Grace biography by Simon Rae. It's highly rated and, having read the first three chapters, I think it's excellent. So, I'll adopt WG and, time permitting, see what I can do to improve it, but the main problem is its size. It's a big article about the Big 'Un. ] (]) 22:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::I also have the Rae book, and agree that it's excellent. ISTR some years ago adding some stuff from it to the article. Checking, I see that Rae's name appears no less than 58 times in the article, so there must be quite a bit from his book already included, though most of it I think was not added by me. One surprising omission in Rae's book is that I don't think it mentions his football at all. JH (]) 09:41, 29 November 2024 (UTC)


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:Hi, ], and all the best to you for 2025. I'll try to find time to look at these. I have a full set of the original ''Playfair'' handbooks (1948–1962) and these guys feature in those so I'll see if there's anything that could be useful. For example, although I need to check, I think Roy Marshall may have been in one of their teams of the year.
Some scorecards link to Cricinfo and some to Cricket Archive. I've got no issue with Cricket Archive except it doesn't allow you to see the card. I don't imagine this is a new issue. What was resolved previously? ] (]) 09:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:On the subject of reviews, we were discussing key articles in need of improvement some weeks ago and I said I would look at ]. I've been making occasional forays into it and have just completed a full restructure to give it some balance and remove repetition. I'd like it to go to FA someday if possible but it still needs more research, especially of contemporary sources like the old ''Cricket'' magazine. I don't suppose anyone will pick it up in the near future, but I've placed it in the ] queue as I think it's ready for a review in terms of prose, lead, sources, NOR/NPOV, images, etc. The only thing that will change, if more content is unearthed, would be just that—more content.
:If anyone here can look at WG and make or suggest improvements, that will be great. Having said that, bear in mind it's still a very long article! ] (]) 12:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hi @], thank you and all the best in 2025 for you too. That would be great to see if there is any addition stuff for these articles, particularly Marshall, who I shall likely to take to FA in the next few weeks.
::I must have missed that discussion a few weeks ago (I'm guilty of not really visiting here all that often!). I'd be happy to have a look at W. G. and see what I can add. It would be nice to aim for FA for at least 10% of England Test cricketers, ~ 80 or so. Wynyard has been promoted, so that's another one done! The GAN queue is quite the queue, have several I want to take there, but by the time the review is complete I can probably bring them to FA!!! ] (]) 21:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Synth between cricketing disciplines ==
:They pay-walled their content 5-odd years ago, so the links are probably from before then. Liberal use of the escape key whilst the page is starting to load will let you see most stuff on there! ] (]) 09:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks @]! Should we switch over the links to cricinfo? ] (]) 09:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:::There is nothing inherently wrong in using ]ed references, though it's obviously easier to verify using non-paid content such as Cricinfo. There are 100s of pages linking to CricketArchive so would be quite an undertaking to replace them all. ] (]) 10:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Just in case if someone is thinking about switching,
::::* - thousands of them.
::::* - 587 of them.
::::<span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 11:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::::: If switching from Cricket Archive to Cricinfo, editors need to be careful that we're not using ]. Cricinfo does not list all women's domestic cricket tournaments, whereas I believe Cricket Archive does- so for many women's cricketers, Cricinfo is not a valid source for all of their infobox statistics. e.g. ] has Women's List A stats listed in her infobox, and those stats are not on her , as that only lists a handful of domestic T20 tournament stats and no List A (50 over) stats. ]] (]) 09:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


One thing that's popped into my mind recently - a long time ago I had an edit war with an editor after I moved a cricketer (I forget who) between categories on one of their team pages on the grounds that his own article listed him accordingly (which are more often than not backed up by a source for each player specifically). However, for team articles a link-to-the-team page seems to be overriding it all? For example, ] is listed as a batter on his own page, Surrey, and London Spirit, but as a wicket-keeper on ]. ] (]) 21:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== ] ==


:I hasn't been paying any attention to BBL, but it does seem that Pope is 1st choice keeper for Adelaide, but does not fulfil this role for any other domestic team. ] (]) 21:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
The Hadi article once had a screenshot of his obituary in ] that got deleted for copyright violation - https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Upload?wpDestFile=Syed_Mohammed_Hadi.jpg If admins can still access it, can someone please share this picture (via web.archive, google photos etc). For reference; not for reusing in wikipedia. ] 16:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
::That's as maybe, but doesn't actually answer my query, only one example. ] (]) 17:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
:Yes, I can see the deleted image, and it contains nothing that would not be otherwise available in other reliable sources about Hadi. And no, I will most certainly '''not''' share it. For a start, please see ]. --] (]) 🦘 10:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I realised after I replied that it wasn't too helpful to the overall question. If teams release a squad list, or maintain one on their website, that mention player roles then I'd go with that. Many players seem to be classified differently in different sources, particularly all-rounders and occasional keepers like Pope. ] (]) 19:37, 11 January 2025 (UTC)


== Where was this image originally published? ==
== LPL & BPL categories ==


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Both Lanka Premier League and Bangladesh Premier League appear to have teams that change their suffix every season. Looking at the cricketer categories for the ] and we still have 'Galle Gladiators cricketers' even though the Galle team have had two new names since and probably a third on it’s way. To save future work of renaming and to remain accurate, would it make sense to simply rename the categories as Galle franchise cricketers, Galle LPL franchise cricketers or Galle (LPL franchise) cricketers? ] (]) 11:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)


Where was this image of James Lillywhite's 1876-77 touring team originally published? I can't seem to find where it originally came from, anyone have any ideas? Taking Southerton to FA and will inevitably be quizzed who the original publisher was! ] (]) 00:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:Great proposal. I prefer your first option, without BPL/LPL/IPL, because even the leagues themselves get rebranded. We should roll it out worldwide, if necessary. ] (]) 22:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)


:That's a difficult one but I would guess it was taken at Lord's, and so it may have been commissioned by MCC. I see it was uploaded to WP from Reddit, but there's no certainty it was ever published in print. Reddit might have obtained it as part of a collection. It is definitely public domain, though. Good luck. ] (]) 01:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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Hello all. Would anyone be kind enough when they have a spare few minutes to source review my ]? Much appreciated in advance :) ] (]) 13:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)


A user (]) has brought it up on my ] that the {{t|Twenty20 competitions}} navbox is different from {{t|First-class cricket domestic competitions}} and {{t|List A cricket domestic competitions}} and it should be made similar as {{t|Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions}} as they did in .
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I am opposing this because, unlike FC or LA, T20 cricket includes multi-national competitions such as ], ] etc. which are not domestic competitions. I have brought this here for a wider discussion and inputs from other users. Read the discussion on my user talkpage as well (]). <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 02:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello everyone,


:This should probably be discussed on ]. You may like to copy existing discussions/arguments there. ] (]) 06:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I hope that you are in good spirits. My name is ] and I am a part of the ] - a team of movement contributors/organizers and liaisons for 7 regions : '''MENA | South Asia | East, South East Asia, Pacific | Sub-Saharan Africa | Central & Eastern Europe | Northern & Western | Latina America. '''
::{{ping| Joseph2302}} courtesy ping. <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)


== Correct name format for English county women's teams ==
=== Why are we outreaching to you? ===
Wikimedia has 18 projects, and 17 that are solely run by the community, other than the Wikimedia Foundation. We want to hear from sister projects that some of us in the movement are not too familiar with and would like to know more about. We always want to hear from Misplaced Pages, but we also want to meet and hear from the community members in other sister projects too. We would like to hear your story and learn about the work you and your community do. You can review our past learning clinics ].


What should the English county women's teams articles be named? Reason I'm asking is that the Essex women article has been moved a couple of times recently from "Essex Women cricket team" to "Essex women's cricket team". I've raised Technical RMs to move it back (twice) but not sure if I am doing the right thing. There was a discussion on ] in October but it was inconclusive and the existing names were kept. Essex are still officially called Essex Women, so would that be the correct name? ] (]) 21:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
We want to invite community members who are:
:My view is same as I posted on that RM: wait for 2025 season to start and see what the ] for them is then. ]] (]) 21:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

::I would say "Essex women's cricket team" to be ] with national teams, but in this case wait for the season to commence per Joseph. <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#0078D7;">'''''Vestrian'''''</span>]</span> 01:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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Once you have registered, if you are interested, you can get to know the team via google meets or zoom to brainstorm an idea for a potential learning clinic about this project or just say hello and meet the team. Please email us at Letsconnectteam@wikimedia.org. We look forward to hearing from you :)

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    Changes to the project banner

    Hi! I have made some changes to the project banner in its sandbox version:

    Others, please let me know what your thoughts about this are... Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

    Also, why is the to do list on a talk page, instead of a project page...? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
    @AssociateAffiliate, Bearian, Jhall1, Joseph2302, Jpeeling, ReturnDuane, and Spike 'em: or anyone else: what are your thoughts about this... Vestrian24Bio 02:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    I have no opinion. Bearian (talk) 02:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

    Review request!

    Happy New Year all! I have a couple more Hampshire cricketers lined up for FA nom and wondered if anyone would be kind enough to review them? Any additions/suggestions much appreciated :)

    AA (talk) 20:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

    Hi, AA, and all the best to you for 2025. I'll try to find time to look at these. I have a full set of the original Playfair handbooks (1948–1962) and these guys feature in those so I'll see if there's anything that could be useful. For example, although I need to check, I think Roy Marshall may have been in one of their teams of the year.
    On the subject of reviews, we were discussing key articles in need of improvement some weeks ago and I said I would look at W. G. Grace. I've been making occasional forays into it and have just completed a full restructure to give it some balance and remove repetition. I'd like it to go to FA someday if possible but it still needs more research, especially of contemporary sources like the old Cricket magazine. I don't suppose anyone will pick it up in the near future, but I've placed it in the WP:GAN queue as I think it's ready for a review in terms of prose, lead, sources, NOR/NPOV, images, etc. The only thing that will change, if more content is unearthed, would be just that—more content.
    If anyone here can look at WG and make or suggest improvements, that will be great. Having said that, bear in mind it's still a very long article! ReturnDuane (talk) 12:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hi @ReturnDuane, thank you and all the best in 2025 for you too. That would be great to see if there is any addition stuff for these articles, particularly Marshall, who I shall likely to take to FA in the next few weeks.
    I must have missed that discussion a few weeks ago (I'm guilty of not really visiting here all that often!). I'd be happy to have a look at W. G. and see what I can add. It would be nice to aim for FA for at least 10% of England Test cricketers, ~ 80 or so. Wynyard has been promoted, so that's another one done! The GAN queue is quite the queue, have several I want to take there, but by the time the review is complete I can probably bring them to FA!!! AA (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

    Synth between cricketing disciplines

    One thing that's popped into my mind recently - a long time ago I had an edit war with an editor after I moved a cricketer (I forget who) between categories on one of their team pages on the grounds that his own article listed him accordingly (which are more often than not backed up by a source for each player specifically). However, for team articles a link-to-the-team page seems to be overriding it all? For example, Ollie Pope is listed as a batter on his own page, Surrey, and London Spirit, but as a wicket-keeper on Adelaide Strikers. Spa-Franks (talk) 21:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

    I hasn't been paying any attention to BBL, but it does seem that Pope is 1st choice keeper for Adelaide, but does not fulfil this role for any other domestic team. Spike 'em (talk) 21:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
    That's as maybe, but doesn't actually answer my query, only one example. Spa-Franks (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
    Yeah, I realised after I replied that it wasn't too helpful to the overall question. If teams release a squad list, or maintain one on their website, that mention player roles then I'd go with that. Many players seem to be classified differently in different sources, particularly all-rounders and occasional keepers like Pope. Spike 'em (talk) 19:37, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

    Where was this image originally published?

    Where was this image of James Lillywhite's 1876-77 touring team originally published? I can't seem to find where it originally came from, anyone have any ideas? Taking Southerton to FA and will inevitably be quizzed who the original publisher was! AA (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

    That's a difficult one but I would guess it was taken at Lord's, and so it may have been commissioned by MCC. I see it was uploaded to WP from Reddit, but there's no certainty it was ever published in print. Reddit might have obtained it as part of a collection. It is definitely public domain, though. Good luck. ReturnDuane (talk) 01:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

    Template:Twenty20 competitions

    A user (Csknp) has brought it up on my user talkpage that the {{Twenty20 competitions}} navbox is different from {{First-class cricket domestic competitions}} and {{List A cricket domestic competitions}} and it should be made similar as {{Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions}} as they did in this edit.

    I am opposing this because, unlike FC or LA, T20 cricket includes multi-national competitions such as Global Super League, Champions League Twenty20 etc. which are not domestic competitions. I have brought this here for a wider discussion and inputs from other users. Read the discussion on my user talkpage as well (User talk:Vestrian24Bio#Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions discussion). Vestrian24Bio 02:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

    This should probably be discussed on the template's talk page. You may like to copy existing discussions/arguments there. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Joseph2302: courtesy ping. Vestrian24Bio 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

    Correct name format for English county women's teams

    What should the English county women's teams articles be named? Reason I'm asking is that the Essex women article has been moved a couple of times recently from "Essex Women cricket team" to "Essex women's cricket team". I've raised Technical RMs to move it back (twice) but not sure if I am doing the right thing. There was a discussion on Talk:Berkshire Women cricket team in October but it was inconclusive and the existing names were kept. Essex are still officially called Essex Women, so would that be the correct name? Bcp67 (talk) 21:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

    My view is same as I posted on that RM: wait for 2025 season to start and see what the WP:COMMONNAME for them is then. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
    I would say "Essex women's cricket team" to be WP:CONSISTENT with national teams, but in this case wait for the season to commence per Joseph. Vestrian24Bio 01:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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