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| == Suggestion by Robertsky (2024-09-09) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... ] court case against Wikimedia Foundation. https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-hc-warns-wikipedia-over-ani-defamation-case-issues-contempt-notice-11725517336837.html in the next In the news report.<!--Include links if you have them! --> | |||
| A draft: India's ] (ANI) has over what they alleged to be defamatory content on the article about themselves, which ] that they " been accused of having served as a propaganda tool for the incumbent ], distributing materials from a vast network of ], and misreporting events on multiple occasions." Wikimedia Foundation is being compelled by the courts to give personal information of some editors who have edited the article. ANI as a source was determined in ] that for general reporting, it is between marginally reliable and generally unreliable; it should be attributed in-text for contentious claims; and generally unreliable and questionable for its coverage of domestic and international politics, and other topics that the Government of India has a stake due to reported dissemination of pro-government propaganda. (]) | |||
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| ] (]) 08:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks, added it to ], with a link to our earlier coverage in ]. | |||
| :Regards, ] (]) 02:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Novem Linguae (2024-09-10) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... ]. These are right around the corner (October) and will be a big change for enwiki. You can find a summary of some important details at ]. This probably doesn't need a whole article, but would be good to mention somewhere. –] <small>(])</small> 02:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] Thank you for suggesting this: it will feature in one of the lead stories on "News and notes", courtesy of @]! : ) ] (]) 20:40, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by SYSS Mouse (2024-09-16) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... <!--Include links if you have them! --> | |||
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| South China Morning Post wrote this piece "Misplaced Pages bans user for ‘alleged trolling, doxxing and intimidation’ of Hong Kong journalists" | |||
| https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3278559/wikipedia-bans-user-alleged-trolling-doxxing-and-intimidation-hong-kong-journalists | |||
| Cross referencing Global ban list confirms the user is Flamelai (blocked here locally in July 2023 under ]) | |||
| ] (]) 01:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :See also ] (draft by ]). Regards, ] (]) 02:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] Thank you for suggesting this! A short piece about the global ban will feature in the "News and notes" section of the upcoming issue, so watch out for it! ] (]) 20:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Ham II (2024-09-17) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... criticism by the historian ] of changes made to the lead section of the article ] between 2023 and now: https://x.com/simonmontefiore/status/1836032108105490799?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw. "{{tq|History needs to be balanced & authoritative, based on facts and knowledge. | |||
| Its replacement here | |||
| @wikipedia | |||
| by prejudiced ideology, distorted facts, and ahistorical fakery is alarming . | |||
| @wikipedia | |||
| is (was) respected & important because it presents facts & history without bias. Sometimes there were duels on pages between historical schools of thoughts but ultimately its editors wished to present history based on facts and balance. | |||
| Has this page been captured by activists? It looks like it has. | |||
| If so dear | |||
| @wikipedia | |||
| come back: | |||
| You are part of the wider underpinnings of truth, authoritative history and factbased reportage that we desperately need in our society to foster the trust in information, reporting and scholarship, and the respect for learning and evidence that we need for our democracies to work. These principles are under attack in our academies, our media and of course in social media. | |||
| @wikipedia has with a few exceptions been rare sanctuary of standards. We need you. Plse restore those all important principles}}" | |||
| This was in a quote tweet of a post which may have gone viral yesterday; at any rate the original post seems to have sparked Twitter activity reported on at https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/09/17/wikipedia-entry-now-calls-zionism-colonialism/ and https://www.jns.org/wikipedia-defines-zionism-as-colonialism-sparking-outrage/. (Those two webpages are essentially the same article.) At {{section link|Talk:Zionism#Bat Signal}} a user notes that "{{tq|page views for this article more than doubled from the average yesterday}}". ] (]) 19:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-09-18) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... Seems something is happening at the Azerbaijani Misplaced Pages (]). Related discussions at . ] (]) 16:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] Thank you for suggesting this: it will feature in the "In the media" section of the upcoming issue! ] (]) 20:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by The Anome (2024-09-19) == | |||
| Here's a creationist website article asking the question "Is Misplaced Pages distorted by ideology and propaganda?" https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/09/18/is-wikipedia-distorted-by-ideology-and-propaganda/ Amusing, to say the least. — ] (]) 03:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Since when is ] a creationist?  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">] {] · ] · ] · ]}</span> 08:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-10-14) == | == Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-10-14) == | ||
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| == Suggestion by David Eppstein (2024-12-20) == | |||
| One for your listing of recent Misplaced Pages-related publications: | |||
| {{cite journal|title=''Princ-wiki-a mathematica'': Misplaced Pages editing and mathematics|first1=D.|last1=Eppstein|first2=J. B.|last2=Lewis|first3=Russ|last3=Woodroofe|author4=XOR'easter|journal=Notices of the AMS|volume=72|issue=1|pages=65–73|year=2025|url=https://www.ams.org/journals/notices/202501/rnoti-p65.pdf}}. | |||
| —] (]) 18:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] Thank you for your submission! | |||
| :I guess @] might find this pretty interesting for his "Recent research" column... ] (]) 21:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| : Already appeared in the last issue, thanks. —] (]) 22:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Kosboot (2024-12-23) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... <!--Include links if you have them! --> | |||
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| The 138th annual meeting of the ] is meeting in ] and features a panel discussion on the topic ''Open Knowledge as Pedagogical Praxis: How Faculty and Students Are Opening up the Field of History by Improving Misplaced Pages''. (This session is in-person only and meets Saturday morning, January 4 at 10:30-12 pm.) - ] (]) 01:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) 01:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] Done, thank you for flagging it! ] (]) 13:32, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Ahri Boy (2025-01-03) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... Possible total project capture of the Hebrew Misplaced Pages. See the ]. I saw a lot of HEWP users complaining about ongoing unfair treatment of the people, including mass blocks on the users that current admins don't agree with their viewpoint. | |||
| ] (]) 16:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :@] It's likely too late to feature this, but we'll look into it for the next issue! ] (]) 13:33, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2025-01-06) == | |||
| ''The Signpost'' should write about... , YT-video by/with one . At the time of writing, I haven't seen it, 1h+, but the guy is a journalist. ] (]) 10:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| And another thing: ]. ] (]) 16:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :@] The VP discussion will feature in the lead story on In The Media. Thank you for flagging these! ] (]) 13:33, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Maile66 (2025-01-20) == | |||
| Request a poll re external plagiarism. How many times have you noticed your work on Misplaced Pages has been lifted verbatim and published elsewhere under another name? | |||
| I think it would be an interesting response from long-time editors. Happens to me a lot, which maybe says I did a good job if someone wants to steal it. My most recent was . But the most blatant was someone who published a book under their own name from my content they copied verbatim: . ] (]) 16:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion by Ed Erhart (WMF) (2025-01-21) == | |||
| Planning for ] is kicking off. ] (]) 20:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-10-14)
The Signpost should write about... There is a new WP-article, Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation, you have probably heard of the subject. However, that WP-article has now been mentioned in the court, and not approvingly:
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- The court hearing is to be held on 25 October. I think we can roll this into that hearing if Signpost isn't released by then. – robertsky (talk) 11:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I correct myself, it seems to be barely within the deadline for the next issue. – robertsky (talk) 11:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- and WP:Office has oversighted it. SYSS Mouse (talk) 18:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I correct myself, it seems to be barely within the deadline for the next issue. – robertsky (talk) 11:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Using policy and WP:SHORTCUT link counts to evaluate consensus
Hello. Initially for my own interest, I created a series of bar charts to evaluate the link counts Misplaced Pages's top-level policy pages (as of the first full week of November). I'd like to offer these up if anyone working on the Signpost would like to use them for an article:
Rjj (talk) 19:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion by Hawkeye7 (2024-11-23)
Found this news article frustrating': Aussie Misplaced Pages editors burn out: New study highlights disagreements, racism, and 'edit wars' Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi everyone
when did Snoop Dogg start to become a famous person and how Amogelang22 (talk) 11:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @Amogelang22. This page is for suggesting items to go into Signpost, the Misplaced Pages internal newsletter, so it is usually only about matters involving Misplaced Pages or its associated sites, or the Wikimedia Foundation, not general knowledge.
- For general questions, the Reference Desk is the place to ask; but I think your questions are answered at Snoop Dogg. ColinFine (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-12-02)
The Signpost should write about... According to this video, c. 16:00-17:00, the WMF have stopped fund-raising in India for the time being. May be worth a mention. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion by Bogazicili (2024-12-08)
The Signpost should write about...
In addition to Misplaced Pages's Indian problem: Settler colonial erasure of native American knowledge and history on the world's largest encyclopedia study, there's a recent study about Australia-related articles that found problematic coverage of Indigenous topics:
To engage with place in the Australian context is inevitably an engagement with settler-colonialism. This research concludes that First Nations histories, current experiences and voices remain marginalised on Misplaced Pages, reflecting the literature (Thorpe, Sentance & Booker 2023; Gallert et al. 2016; Bjork-James 2021). There are other omissions as well. Lucas argued that “basically any non-white experiences or non-dominant experiences are omitted.” Gabriel felt that Misplaced Pages was “quite a hostile space to marginalised people” and that there is “a really frustrating lack of space, I suppose, to me in all three elements: being a regional Australian; being queer; being disabled. None of them feel like something that Misplaced Pages really quite welcomes a lot of the time.”
The previous journal article was covered in the Signpost (Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2024-10-19/Recent research) and there was also a response to it (Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2024-06-08/Opinion). Can we also mention the most recent study in one of the upcoming Signpost issues? Bogazicili (talk) 14:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Commons:Photo challenge
I would like to see a brief monthly note in The Signpost about the c:Commons:Photo challenge themes. It could probably be a simple, standardized blurb, e.g., The c:Commons:Photo challenge for December 2024 is to upload photos you have taken of pastel colors and footprints. Photos must be taken by the uploader. Vote for your favorites from last month's challenge.
WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion by David Eppstein (2024-12-20)
One for your listing of recent Misplaced Pages-related publications:
Eppstein, D.; Lewis, J. B.; Woodroofe, Russ; XOR'easter (2025). "Princ-wiki-a mathematica: Misplaced Pages editing and mathematics" (PDF). Notices of the AMS. 72 (1): 65–73..
—David Eppstein (talk) 18:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein Thank you for your submission!
- I guess @HaeB might find this pretty interesting for his "Recent research" column... Oltrepier (talk) 21:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Already appeared in the last issue, thanks. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Suggestion by Kosboot (2024-12-23)
The Signpost should write about... The 138th annual meeting of the American Historical Association is meeting in New York City and features a panel discussion on the topic Open Knowledge as Pedagogical Praxis: How Faculty and Students Are Opening up the Field of History by Improving Misplaced Pages. (This session is in-person only and meets Saturday morning, January 4 at 10:30-12 pm.) - kosboot (talk) 01:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC) kosboot (talk) 01:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kosboot Done, thank you for flagging it! Oltrepier (talk) 13:32, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Suggestion by Ahri Boy (2025-01-03)
The Signpost should write about... Possible total project capture of the Hebrew Misplaced Pages. See the RFC page at Meta. I saw a lot of HEWP users complaining about ongoing unfair treatment of the people, including mass blocks on the users that current admins don't agree with their viewpoint.
Ahri Boy (talk) 16:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahri Boy It's likely too late to feature this, but we'll look into it for the next issue! Oltrepier (talk) 13:33, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2025-01-06)
The Signpost should write about... Misplaced Pages’s Lies Against Israel and How to Protect Historical Truth, YT-video by/with one Aaron Bandler. At the time of writing, I haven't seen it, 1h+, but the guy is a journalist. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
And another thing: Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Heritage_Foundation_intending_to_"identify_and_target"_editors. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång The VP discussion will feature in the lead story on In The Media. Thank you for flagging these! Oltrepier (talk) 13:33, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Suggestion by Maile66 (2025-01-20)
Request a poll re external plagiarism. How many times have you noticed your work on Misplaced Pages has been lifted verbatim and published elsewhere under another name?
I think it would be an interesting response from long-time editors. Happens to me a lot, which maybe says I did a good job if someone wants to steal it. My most recent was Loyal Valley, Texas. But the most blatant was someone who published a book under their own name from my content they copied verbatim: . — Maile (talk) 16:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Suggestion by Ed Erhart (WMF) (2025-01-21)
Planning for m:Misplaced Pages 25 is kicking off. Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 20:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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