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== Re: October 2024 ==

Hi again. Last night, I tried to change the current Sydney Sweeney profile pic to another photo from her most recent event (https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Ana_de_Armas_and_Sydney_Sweeney_at_the_2024_Toronto_International_Film_Festival_03_(cropped).jpg<nowiki/>), a substantially higher-quality close-up than the current profile pic. I then had this exchange with NoobThreePointOh: ]. Would you possibly be able to grant the permission that he references in his last reply? Thank you very much. ] (]) 23:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|RangerFanAaron}} I think there is some sensitivity as you twice switched out a high-quality image that highlighted Sweeney's face for a less recent upper body shot that emphasized her cleavage. As for ], it is certainly not of higher quality than ] as both were taken by ] within a few minutes of each other last month at the Toronto International Film Festival.

:Although I personally prefer the ] version, I freely admit that it is a matter of preference. It is a bit early for ] to apply, but since you have been reverted three times on these photo edits, I think it would be best if you read & take to heart the suggestions the ] has. Yes, the next step would be to open a discussion at ]. ] (]) 00:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

::{{ping|Peaceray}} What I mean is, my picture is of much higher quality in that its resolution/clarity holds up at a much larger size - its file size is almost 5x larger than the current pic's, 1.64 MB versus the current pic being only 340 KB. ] (]) 01:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

:::{{ping|RangerFanAaron}} ] is 1,616 × 2,056 pixels at max & ] is 1,242 × 1,864 pixels max. Most of the difference has to do with that 04 is more tightly cropped than 03, so really we are talking about a pretty negligible difference for an infobox picture that is going to a smaller resolution anyway. This thus becomes not an argument about resolution so much as how tightly one wants the picture cropped & whether one wants a smile. More editors seem to want the more tightly cropped picture with a smile.
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I'm all for that, but look at , which also prove that they were not new. ] (]) 18:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Drmies}} I took a look at a number of ]'s warnings. From the several that I examined, the reversions were all unwarranted & all the warnings that Prince Deckow Sr. issue were {{tl|uw-vandalism4im}}. My objective is to repair the harm that Prince Deckow Sr. has done, even if I welcome a few vandals in my haste to rectify any harm done to many innocent IP editors.

:My first edit on a red link IP talk page is always one of the . If I have reverted an IP edit & one of the non-constructive welcome templates does not apply, I will use {{tl|welcome-anon}} & then add the appropriate warning.

:In this case I believe that speed is probably better than accuracy. The vast majority of IP editors make good edits while the rest either make bad edits out of ignorance, are outright vandals, or a pushing a POV. I rather make a mistake welcoming the latter than to leave AGF IP editors with a final warning on their page.

:If they are making bad edits, I have faith that we editors doing edit patrol will catch up with them. ] (]) 19:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
::Peaceray, it is totally possible that that user was warning inappropriately--did you report them? ] (]) 19:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Metformin ==
Hi Peaceray, I’ve tried to reach out regarding the edits I made to the Metformin article. The article I’ve cited is from a peer-reviewed journal, which you can view here: https://academic.oup.com/ije/issue/51/6. Additionally, Peter Attia MD has reviewed this journal article and discussed its findings in detail: https://peterattiamd.com/a-recent-metformin-study-casts-doubts-on-longevity-indications/. Could you please explain how this doesn’t meet Misplaced Pages’s scholastic standards or WP? I’d like to ensure that my contributions align with Misplaced Pages's guidelines, and any feedback would be appreciated. ] (]) 15:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:You did not specify ''which'' article from the '']'' journal you were citing, but based on your additions {{diff|Metformin|1253133401|1250141760|here}} & {{diff|Metformin|1253134966|1253133682|here}}, this is the article that you were referencing:

:*{{cite journal |last1=Keys |first1=Matthew Thomas |last2=Thinggaard |first2=Mikael |last3=Larsen |first3=Lisbeth Aagaard |last4=Pedersen |first4=Dorthe Almind |last5=Hallas |first5=Jesper |last6=Christensen |first6=Kaare |title=Reassessing the evidence of a survival advantage in Type 2 diabetes treated with metformin compared with controls without diabetes: a retrospective cohort study |journal=International Journal of Epidemiology |date=2022-12-13 |volume=51 |issue=6 |pages=1886–1898 |doi=10.1093/ije/dyac200 |pmid=36287641}}

:For medical articles, there are additional requirements for citations. One can find these requirements at ] (Shortcut: ]). The section that addresses the citation above is located at ]. Keys ''et al'' is what is considered ''primary'' because it is a single clinical study. Since the annals of medicine are littered with single clinical studies that are contradictory & sometimes discredited, we look to secondary sources that evaluate multiple primary sources. As ] states, {{tq|A reason to avoid primary sources in the biomedical field – especially papers reporting results of '']'' experiments – is that they are often not ]{{rp|references ommitted}} (see also ]) and are therefore unsuitable for use in generating encyclopedic, reliable biomedical content.}} This ''is'' the default position that editors who prolific edit medical topics thus take.

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:Regarding the source that you posted {{diff|Metformin|1253139188|125313576|here}} & {{diff|Metformin|1253142106|1253139526|here}}:

:*{{cite web |last=Attia |first=Peter |title=A recent metformin study casts doubts on longevity indications |url=https://peterattiamd.com/a-recent-metformin-study-casts-doubts-on-longevity-indications/ |website=Peter Attia |date=October 18, 2022 |access-date=October 24, 2024}}

:{{URL|https://peterattiamd.com}} is ] that can hardly be considered a ] that can be used to ]. This is clearly a case where ] is more stringent than ].

:My advice to you would be to open a discussion on the ] that includes the citation from Keys ''et al'', a statement to the effect that this contradicts other studies in that it finds {{tq|no evidence of a survival advantage or equalization}} through Metaformin operation, that it involved a large sample (again, {{tq|Singleton cohorts were derived from a 5% random sample of the Danish population recorded in the Civil Registration System (CRS) since 1968 and twin cohorts from all twin pairs recorded in the population-based Danish Twin Registry (DTR).}}), & that you need assistance in finding this covered in ], ], & ]s. I would invite {{u|Bon courage}} using the {{tl|ping}} template & invite others to the discussion by substituting a {{tl|Please see}} template at ]. The syntax for that would be <code><nowiki>{{subst:Please see |location= Talk:Metaforin#<whatever you call your section heading>}}</nowiki></code>.
:I hope this is helpful. ] (]) 16:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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I was wondering if I could get a spot check from you on a page that has a lot of bias being added to it. The ] page has had a few people on both sides add in statements that are biased and unsourced, and I have been working to make sure its as fair and balanced as possible (especially during an election).

I have tried to integrate some of their sentiment were possible so that its not just all my voice in it, but some I have been just reverting and deleting all together. There has been a spike on the page view since ballots hit people's mailboxes, so I want to make sure they are reading a well source, unbiased page.

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:{{ping|Bpuddin}} Hi, I am busy for the next several hours but will have a further look when I can. Meanwhile, please open a discussion at ]. 18:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

::{{ping|Bpuddin}} Hi, I noticed that you did the last {{diff|Tanya Woo|1253161530|1253088185|four edits}}, so I trust that you have set things right. ] (]) 20:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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:I am new to being an administrator as of 2024-11-04. We will see if {{U|Vaibhav 2005}} continues to vandalize once the 31 hours are up.

:I have met a few experienced & valuable editors who have said that their first edit was vandalism. One of these became a ]. I am loathe to completely block someone indefinitely without giving them a second change. I know their are exceptions to that, but I take them on a case-by-case basis. ] (]) 18:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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Good morning I am fairly new to Misplaced Pages and I was wondering if you could take a look at my user page and give some feedback on it and if all the information is alright. Some recommendations would also be appreciated. Thank you :D TocaTheFrog (talk) 10:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@TocaTheFrog: Good Tuesday! There are a couple of things in the Wikitext of version of your user page that I think need tweaking. I would direct you to two resources first.
As per WP:UP#What may I have in my user pages?, your WP:User pages can be whatever you want it to be as long as it does not violate WP:UP#What may I not have in my user pages?. Note that if there is some CSS error, some user, or more likely a WP:BOT may come along & fix it.
Now that said, here are two things that I spotted, the first major, the second minor.
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IP editing issues with an IP you previously blocked.

Good evening to you, Peaceray. I seek your help with a matter concerning an IP you previously blocked, 141.154.49.21. Said IP has removed pertinent news from the Current Events section of the website earlier this evening. I responded by undoing that change, and their response is that they have reverted my change and informed me that "That is not at all how it works, Danegeld".

My change summary stated that "If it's here, then it's relevant." The news item was properly sourced, and I believe that the editor on the end of that change, may have been acting in bad faith, because the edit was about the recognition of the Palestinian state, by Canadian MPs.

I do not know what to do about this, and wondered if this could be (as the last block was set for), a contentious subject, and whether that block prevented the editor from making those changes. It is news, it is current and in my opinion it should be on that page.

Since this isn't the wiki I'm most used to editing, I'd like to ask for advice on how to handle this topic. I recognise it's not every user's "cup of tea", but if it is newsworthy enough that CBC broadcast it, then it's news, isn't it?

Sorry to tie up your talk with this topic, but I hope you can help. Thank you. Dane|Geld

23:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

  • The material should be restored & 141.154.49.21 warned with {{uw-ewsoft}} or {{uw-ew}}. It is incumbent upon the disagreeing editors then to try to bring the problem editor to talk pages. I emphasize the WP:BRD & WP:VNT essays (& it helps to mention that they are essays). It is important to work your way through the levels of warnings. Being warned via 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & 4th warnings is important when you are landing complaints on WP:AIV. Really, I should have insisted on it before initially blocking. I would also ask for advice at WP:ANI. I think it would be better to involve another administrator(s) at this point. Peaceray (talk) 05:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

FYI

I have not named you, but this AN/I-case might be of interest for you: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents:Margaret Sanger & User:Anotherperson123. The Banner talk 14:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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It seems I have the serendipity of running into you again! I was looking through a maintenance category and noticed your subscriptions subpage wasn't archiving properly. The specific problem is the |archive= argument isn't set to a valid value. There are a few ways to fix it, but it depends on how you want it to work. If you want it to just create a separate page for every year, you can do the following:

Annual archive solution 
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This will create each archive with the page title format "User talk:Peaceray/Subscriptions/Archive year" so that {{Annual archive}} will function as a header for each archive page that detects and lists all the years. Alternatively, if you just want to go the common route where you start counting from 1 and continue counting up from there:

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{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}} might also be another option, though I'm less familiar. Retro (talk | contribs) 07:58, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I have replaced the malfunctioning code with the Sequential solution. Peaceray (talk) 17:14, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

TPO and redaction at unblock request

Hi, Peaceray, and congrats; didn't realize you just made admin! I noticed this edit at User talk:141.154.49.21 undoing declining a block appeal, after Fathoms Below pointed out the procedural issue involved. A self-revert is normally okay, but this went further than that. I believe in this case your edit was a violation of WP:TPO for two reasons: first, because your decline had already been responded to (namely, by FB), and secondly, because you not only self-reverted, but you removed another editor's comment (FB's), which is not permitted. (Ironically, the only user who could have legitimately removed FB's post is IP 141 themself, per WP:OWNTALK—but note that this does not also apply to the possibility of IP removing *your* post, which would have been excluded by the exception that forbids users from removing declined block appeals.) The way this should have been handled, imho, is that instead of removing your own post, you should have WP:REDACTed it by <s> striking it out </s>, and then <u> adding new, underlined comments </u> to explain the reason for the redaction. Had FB not responded before you changed your mind about the decline, you could have just self-reverted; but not after there was a follow-up comment replying to yours. HTH, and best of luck with the mop! Mathglot (talk) 07:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

@Mathglot: Yes, you are correct & I will use the strikethough moving forward. Still new to adminship, so I will inevitably make mistakes while learning my way around. Thank you for your feedback! Peaceray (talk) 17:50, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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Deletion of quotation from Margaret Sanger on Margaret Sanger page

Greetings Peaceray. I'm always glad for constructive criticism; I don't want to overlook things. To assist me in not making such a mistake in the future, can you tell me where on the Margaret Sanger page it is that "if you had truely read the full article, would have seen that the fuller (& correct quote) was already in . . ." (reference given). I looked at that reference and didn't find it. I did a text search for the phrase "her goal was to eliminate the Negro race" that was in my quote in didn't find it; yet you said I would find it if I read the full article. I want to be a better, and fair, contributor to Misplaced Pages. To that end, can you tell me what I am doing wrong so that I missed the quote that you said was there, on the Sanger page? Chronic2 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:34, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@Chronic2: You failed to search for the relevant string where I told you to look. I have further responded to the original thread at User talk:Chronic2#December 2024.
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Robert Kiyosaki

Moved to User talk:2600:1008:B160:54A0:5E0:52F:C254:544C § December 2024 – Peaceray (talk) 19:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Your question at AIV

Regarding this edit, that "evidently a spambot or a compromised account" is, apparently, one of the choices in the drop-down menu Huggle or Twinkle offers when making the report. A lot of users often don't think too clearly about what that says (and in any event you were right to decline the report). Daniel Case (talk) 18:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: Thanks! Yes, it seems important to know when to say no, & also to educate errant reporters. I am still learning, as they must be still learning as well. I sometimes wonder if I should also be pinging them, since some of the users might be drive-by reporters. Peaceray (talk) 18:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, sometimes I've done that. I also watch out for people using the drop-down menu for "evidently a vandalism-only account" when they report IPs (of course, the better fix would be to amend the code so that option is not available when an IP is being reported (something beyond my capabilities). Daniel Case (talk) 18:23, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Reverted edit of article on R

Hi,

You just reverted my edits of the article on R since you interpreted my edits as a "test" that should be performed in the Wiki Sandbox. However, these edits were genuine and not a test. Please restore my edits unless you have any criticism against the contents of the edits.

Best, DoctorAro DoctorAro (talk) 16:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

In fact, another editor did that reversion. And I probably should have used the {{uw-mos1}} warning rather than the {{uw-test1}} template. Since you messaged me both here & on your talk page, I have added a more detailed discussion at User talk:DoctorAro#December 2024. Peaceray (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Suzanne Rouviere

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Hi, I have been in Misplaced Pages for 6 months. I just recently saw the User Access Level article and am wondering if I am eligible to be auto-confirmed. I would be grateful if you have a tour on my user page and recommend improving that one. Thank you. BlackRider90 (talk) 00:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@BlackRider90: Hi, go to WP:AUTOCONFIRM & the box on the left should indicate whether you are autoconfirmed or not. I will have a look at your user page a bit later. Peaceray (talk) 02:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Yeah, I see a box on the left side. Is it showing only for me or it is attched to the article for everyone? BlackRider90 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@BlackRider90: It shows for everybody but the text will vary whether you are autoconfirmed or not. If it says you are autoconfirmed, you are.
You can also check your stats at xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/BlackRider90. I see that autoconfirmed is part of your user group.
Finally, you should always sign you posts with ~~~~ – if you want to customize your signature, have a look at WP:Signature tutorial & WP:Signatures. Peaceray (talk) 05:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh, thank you, and can I add the "autoconfirmed" ribbon in my user page?BlackRider90 (talk) 16:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Sterling Holloway

His birthday is wrong . I have proof. thanks.. Tater1211 (talk) 11:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Tater1211: You are correct & I was wrong. I fell prey to reverting unexplained changes (no edit summary) without changes in citations, but I failed to check the existing citations.
I have added an explanatory footnote, rather than a HTML comment, to help me & others to avoid the same mistake in the future. I have also switched the preferred & deprecated birth dates at Sterling Holloway (Q725507) in Wikidata so that the preferred value appears first. Peaceray (talk) 20:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Native Hawai'ian

Hi, you left me a message about a previous edit and I wanted to state why I did so. The Native Hawaiians page inconsistently uses the 'okina in spellings involving Hawai'i (alot don't have it but then there are other sections that with spellings that use it, making the article look less encyclopedic. I figured I just would add some to spellings of it since the article does use the standard spellings for other Indigenous Hawai'ian words, but must've accidentally added a few to article links. Aside from that my main reason for posting was updating some years info I noticed hadn't been added. I've just added the info without the additional 'okinas to other sections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwatuangi (talk • contribs) 07:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Mwatuangi: That is fine, & I generally support the use of ʻokinas where appropriate. However, maintaining valid URLs for citations is sacrosanct & it is the responsibility of editors to maintain their validity & quickly restore then as necessary. That is why I reverted your otherwise proper edits. Please take care in the future not to invalidate URLs through negligence.
Incidentally, you can use the {{okina}} template to produce the ʻokina if you are not able do a copy and paste. Peaceray (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Also, please use ~~~~ to sign your comments. Peaceray (talk) 17:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)